Post Ak23eAzwDoj6cddTXM by teto@cawfee.club
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(DIR) Post #Ak1xsPVAUjYFvxeCa8 by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T19:03:28.411Z
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Maybe I'm too individualistic but like, doesn't the idea of a "fandom" seem too ghostly?Like, it's not a club, but it is, but it's not in X/Reddit but sometimes it is.It's like why would you care about some random person makes for some random show if they will literally stop existing for you 5 minutes later when you move on.
(DIR) Post #Ak1yPSIF8Xh09EMJPM by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:10:57.114695Z
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@waifu you dont go to an anime con to meet some random japanese man. You go to an anime con to be around people who also like the same things japanese man made
(DIR) Post #Ak1yV3bNqqBVJ4yzuy by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T19:10:27.772Z
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@teto@cawfee.club I feel like I'm missing what you're trying to say, could you explain in other way
(DIR) Post #Ak1ykHgflTK7KqiYDo by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:14:43.156367Z
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@waifu if you have autism I can actually explain this better: my dad loves music but has never been to a concert in his life because he doesnt see the point (music sounds better on expensive earphones than through speakers). Meanwhile I also love music but I learned how much fun it is to enjoy music WITH other people who also love that music. It's about understanding social events in general really. The fandom is a social gathering event. So are conventions and concerts. You go there to be around like minded people. I speak about 1000 times more to randos at a con than to the actual japanese people who made the animes.
(DIR) Post #Ak1z1s1xtU0wyX3wjw by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T19:16:22.932Z
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@teto@cawfee.club I can see the thing both ways, the thing that seems weird with something like that is the supposed "gatekeeping" that some people say should be put up, like how do you gatekeep from something that is open by default?I guess I may have autism then because I only go to cons to talk to the artists or buy merch
(DIR) Post #Ak1z2tzi4wEpM4V36u by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:18:05.103425Z
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@waifu so basically the "fandom" is the "idea" of a social group that MIGHT meet up. And cons and concerts are the reality of it. Or anime clubs I guess.
(DIR) Post #Ak1zBPbsPstzj3PTGa by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:19:37.880326Z
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@waifu gatekeeping doesnt exist. Either the interest/fandom is niche and small or it isnt. Gatekeeping is a weird word as it doesnt actually describe anything real social-wise. It just means the interest is too weird for mass appeal right now. You might prolong that by being weird or making it look weirder than it is. But thats very silly.
(DIR) Post #Ak1zWXDjJdxxPWBgVE by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T19:21:55.401Z
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@teto@cawfee.club based take actually, my man teto knows this stuff, it's kinda confusing to me so it's appreciated.In this sense for example if you saw someone doing something with the thing that you like you don't have a way to "keep them from doing it", correct?Like that guy that speeds up anime to "get to the good parts", like we think he's dumb but there isn't a way to really gatekeep him from anime
(DIR) Post #Ak1zgEscMOmBQMwKAq by themilkman@shitposter.world
2024-07-17T19:24:17.412113Z
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@waifu @teto good old reliable bullying
(DIR) Post #Ak1zgG7tj4apI362d6 by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T19:23:40.737Z
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@themilkman@shitposter.world @teto@cawfee.club well yeah I guess you could do that I just find it useless I may use that time to do art or touch grass, it's more soothing
(DIR) Post #Ak1zhPa23wHitro0q8 by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:25:24.564559Z
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@waifu as a sonic fan I can assure you I had to learn early on to accept that I cant stop others from doing weird shit with the brands I like
(DIR) Post #Ak1zwpoGp7iEarosl6 by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:28:12.799614Z
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@waifu if I guy would tell me he watched berserk on 3 times speed Id simply never mention berserk around that dude again. Double so for animes in general if he does it for all of them. He'd basically not even know I like anime if he started out like that.
(DIR) Post #Ak203Qj6TtbGpHY1zM by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:29:26.034721Z
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@waifu if the social situation is more complicated Id ignore he ever said that. Unless he's a random fedi user, then id tell him to kill himself
(DIR) Post #Ak20OkGR2IB3VCInqK by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:33:13.639242Z
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@waifu tl;dr is dont waste your time shitting on dumb people unless it's funny
(DIR) Post #Ak20UUEHZ7z5Vc26ue by gentooP@social.mikutter.hachune.net
2024-07-17T19:34:19Z
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@waifu collective culture kind of thing.Due to the association of one person or subgroup and depending on popularity they define the impressions people get from the whole group then groups don't get the audience and other fans by negative impressions.Idk, just feels like my friend group is just small partly due to this. Too many people with the wrong impressions, and group can't divorce itself from dominant group and discard negative connotation with dominant group.
(DIR) Post #Ak21XANpuOIYmTLMX2 by gentooP@social.mikutter.hachune.net
2024-07-17T19:46:02Z
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@waifu The way I describe it, group A and group B has xyz things in common and A has asd things different from B and B has hjk things different from A.What makes the fandom is the xyz things in common. If A want to look for more people with asd things in common A looks outside the group that shares both xyz and asd. There may be those out there but they are repelled by hjk things and if you have to go through B to find A then A will dwindle and die off with time (old age).
(DIR) Post #Ak21nTaYGwBiyg4IDI by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T19:47:02.033Z
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@waifu@mai.waifuism.life @teto@cawfee.club It's like the chess club analogy I told you. It's not about keeping ppl from watching anime it's about keeping ppl away from discussions. Which you can do with bullying.There's a difference between playing smash at home vs a LAN tournament.
(DIR) Post #Ak21nUbeUKf88NagZE by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T19:48:53.958139Z
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@weeble @waifu sure bullying works to some extent but most of the time it causes people to turn against you instead of whoever is doing the hobby "wrong". Obviously esports is a lot more uh... rule focused so it's less organic in that way. You cant just play videogames in "any way" . But with anime and music it's basically just a question of "do I want to spend time talking to this person or not"
(DIR) Post #Ak233DQGFDurQYK8MC by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T20:01:10.117Z
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@teto@cawfee.club Gatekeeping only works if you garner enough ppl to support you and it happens all the time. Anime itself is very broad, but I'm talking more within fandoms of shows themselves. I've seen many times when ppl hold their ground or someone's retarded callout backfires.I'm assuming @waifu@mai.waifuism.life was talking about that 2x speed guy thread and 1. Ppl care about fandoms cuz they enjoy stuff and wanna intereact with ppl of a similar interest and 2. The point of that thread wasn't to make the dude stop watching anime, and is more to shine a light of how awful Twitter/TikTok are at fostering communities and attracts tourists.Not every fan is on the same page, but this was less of an issue when forums were more prevalent. And when the ppl who cared enough to sperg about something on the Internet actually cared.
(DIR) Post #Ak233ETqJONKhx0VZw by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T20:02:56.767189Z
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@weeble @waifu this is twitter logic. Delete your twitter account and that shit doesnt exist. Im glad at a con to even be able to talk about more niche anime at all. Most of the guys there only watched one piece
(DIR) Post #Ak23eA6dXQUTr7lJL6 by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T20:08:49.357Z
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@teto@cawfee.club @waifu@mai.waifuism.life I don't have a twitter account it's just all the artists are on there because the Internet is getting more centralized. Alternatives are beginning to pop up and more ppl are becoming aware of this.Also go to a con bigger than 50 ppl lol. I found an ebichu fan irl.
(DIR) Post #Ak23eAzwDoj6cddTXM by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T20:09:36.144254Z
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@weeble @waifu the con I talked about is one of the largest in europe. Animagic. I primarily go there for the jpop concerts.
(DIR) Post #Ak23ujTrmeIWCZWrdA by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T20:11:49.850Z
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@teto@cawfee.club @waifu@mai.waifuism.life I thought the biggest one was in France? France is where all the weebs are in Europe
(DIR) Post #Ak23ukH8pRiGfOaDR2 by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T20:12:37.094623Z
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@weeble @waifu europe is more than just france. And that one is so normie tier that half of it is a comic con now for marvelfags. I said one of the biggest not THE biggest.
(DIR) Post #Ak24aVC1IOxG3F6BOa by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T20:18:23.469Z
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@teto@cawfee.club @waifu@mai.waifuism.life Aww I'm sorry about the marvelshit that genuinely sounds awful. But yeah most cons are gonna have panels and events for the latest shows it's just how it is.I still see some cosplays and fan-meetups for other shows but the con-managed events are always gonna be current shows
(DIR) Post #Ak282g2EsUHReHeNEm by waifu@mai.waifuism.life
2024-07-17T20:57:22.456Z
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@weeble@fedi.bungle.online @teto@cawfee.club what even is a tourist, What's the problem with it, like why would you care
(DIR) Post #Ak28Ba5WMGtVoJQmzQ by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T21:00:29.197286Z
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@waifu @weeble this nigga talks like a twitter addict who spends more time involving himself in drama than actually doing the hobby
(DIR) Post #Ak28G5wJsPuBkrHOWO by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T21:01:20.538843Z
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@waifu @weeble imagine Id walk around calling 7 year old sonic fans tourists and no he isnt a pokemon how dare you say that timmy. Grow up
(DIR) Post #Ak29MQLd0p6gk1hQ4e by weeble@fedi.bungle.online
2024-07-17T21:12:46.238Z
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@teto@cawfee.club @waifu@mai.waifuism.life Imagine trying to make art only for ppl to flood your comments with how sexist, toxic, problematic the thing you're drawing is.Imagine someone coming into your thread to debate on why a character is actually bad but their knowledge is based on some clips on TiktokImagine wanting discuss this cool movie but all ppl want to talk about is the fat character being good representation. You act like I'm just going around shitting on ppl being cringe. No, niggas like that speedrun guy are the ones who usually throw the most shade and start shit.
(DIR) Post #Ak29MR7q7Zfh9YFvDk by teto@cawfee.club
2024-07-17T21:13:40.933704Z
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@weeble @waifu Im pausing my game to reply to you. Thats all I have to say about internet drama shit