Post AjuceTDaQF2KGJDRNw by tht@mstdn.social
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(DIR) Post #Aju6W3Wsqr6ljwBaCW by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:04:04Z
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Gun violence is never the answer. While I do wish Trump to outer space without a suit, shooting on him in public or people is never ever a solution!This will only aggravate the MAGA rage even more and they will become even more extreme..The only way these extremist can react is by making things even worse because hell is the only thing they truly believe and serveDo not kill in the name of democracy because that would make you as worse as the dictator himselfWe need to VOTE them out
(DIR) Post #Aju6bmbmfyxkzwD0cq by rail_@bark.lgbt
2024-07-14T00:05:06Z
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@stux this most definitely SHOULD be CWd
(DIR) Post #Aju6dFmDiMNhken81g by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:05:20Z
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@rail_ uh okay
(DIR) Post #Aju6nqUu2huIXCk4kS by bhasic@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:07:18Z
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@stux I guess the shooter is a maga moron who was supposed to miss and become a maga-hero. False flag.
(DIR) Post #Aju6rmkFw5AW3TnmYS by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:07:57Z
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@bhasic got it! :cat_hug_triangle: The message still counts though :ed_grin: We should never lower the bar to their standards :blobcathighfive:
(DIR) Post #Aju6vYjdxxiXlLJb5U by Uair@autistics.life
2024-07-14T00:08:37Z
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@stux If you use the same tools, if you use the same mechanisms as your enemy, you become your enemy. Violence begets violence. revenge is a wheel that only turns backwards. Yadda yadda.Not to be facile, but look at Israel doing the ethnic cleansing thing today.Or America. It wasn't that long ago we were patting ourselves on the back for winning a war against fascists. Now we're voting for one.
(DIR) Post #Aju6xTUASH2u3nzPzE by bhasic@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:09:02Z
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@stux Well not killing Hitler got WW2. Not killing Putin...
(DIR) Post #Aju73lkHThfMQiWnFQ by bhasic@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:09:42Z
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@stux Sometimes youj have to fight and kill to protect the good of many.
(DIR) Post #Aju73mdEBPcPB8EftQ by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:10:07Z
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@bhasic True, true, but be careful not to cross the line š
(DIR) Post #Aju7DMB5OQ3I1rdaUq by bhasic@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:11:54Z
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@stux I'm not planning to kill anyone, but in the army I made an oath to protect my country from external and internal threats.
(DIR) Post #Aju7G1inuA3zSDgLSa by cherold@zirk.us
2024-07-14T00:12:19Z
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@stux Agreed, but assassins tend to be nutjobs so telling them not to do irrational things is probably not that effective.
(DIR) Post #Aju7OiUalfxYQEB6dk by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:13:53Z
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@bhasic Hm.. I did not :blobcatgiggle: I will only fight against an enemy I also see that way, not because "my country" š says itI don't give a crap about my country
(DIR) Post #Aju7TsZGjdq57OpMMC by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:14:50Z
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@cherold Absolutely! But im not talking to assassins here :blobcatgiggle: More to people who are getting more and more frustrated and fed up with the current stateJust hope no one will go over the edge so to say
(DIR) Post #Aju7hOW3GRBry5lcga by bhasic@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:17:17Z
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@stux I don't care much about my country either. It's more and more for the rich only. Nazi ministers are ok in the fascist government who make the poor suffer more and give the rich tax breaks.
(DIR) Post #Aju7lNAIEFY4w8UEYy by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:18:00Z
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@bhasic Right.. it's getting hard to stand behind such thingsI fight for the small people like myself šŖ
(DIR) Post #Aju7ylwtOVaxZDblY0 by TheRealKat@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:20:29Z
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@stux I agree, gun violence is never the answer. I'm against the use of automatic weapons and bump stocks and 3D print guns Etc I am all for gun control and safety, but I ain't butt hurt over this. Just going to be honest. Maybe they'll enact some decent gun safety laws now. š¤¬ā ļø
(DIR) Post #Aju8Iy9FkNOnC71JdQ by Robb_Munson@c.im
2024-07-14T00:24:07Z
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@stux Trump just entered his me too era.
(DIR) Post #Aju8KtQ2IkX16cmtoe by Robb_Munson@c.im
2024-07-14T00:24:25Z
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@stux *mic drop walk off*
(DIR) Post #Aju8aQzRlc3RZJlHCy by admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net
2024-07-14T00:27:12Z
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@stux You say "we" like you can vote in US elections...The rest of your toot, spot on. This is not the way to do it... That shooter has all but guaranteed a Trump victory, and both the left and the center in the U.S. do NOT want this.This also proves that Democrats are at least as violent as Republicans.
(DIR) Post #Aju8di1EuV6jFfA4ga by 7faces@mastodon.social
2024-07-14T00:27:53Z
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@stux Did the shooter have a background check? How did they get a gun?
(DIR) Post #Aju91MRUmbBJHcik8u by p
2024-07-14T00:32:15.287257Z
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@stux > This will only aggravate the MAGA rage even more and they will become even more extreme..One wonders at what the "they" did that made them "extreme"; this is the first time a president has been shot since 1980 as far as I can recall. But "they" are "extreme", "they" are full of the "MAGA rage". I mean, where's the presumption that "they" are the "extreme" ones, and at what point do you think you've got to wonder whether it's not "them"?kathy_griffin_beheading.jpe
(DIR) Post #Aju9SkHGGzuv1azXvs by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:37:10Z
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@p Haha oh god :bloblaugh: MAGA are an extemist group that so clear, even glass is less transparant :flan_laugh: Trump is a wannabee dictator that acts like a little child that doesn't get what it wants, is a conviced criminal that is too stupid to be even hypercriticalSorry but I truly dispite the guy in every way..
(DIR) Post #Aju9iRajVydFhkaKrw by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T00:40:00Z
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@p Oh and if those things from Kathy make you overthrow democracy, build deportation camps, spew hate left and right I sugges not getting into politics but go work at an ice cream shop or whateverIt's like an kid crying because a classmate made a drawing of you..Grow up
(DIR) Post #AjuA9iWydtOG3mpiHg by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T00:44:55.334165Z
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One of your guys just tried to kill a presidential candidate.Could you maybe try to have just a little bit of self-awareness?
(DIR) Post #AjuAGiQxOyRxmnM29g by lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments
2024-07-14T00:17:29.493209Z
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@Clover @chjara a successful assassination would have drove the liberal order into crisis. They value stability under any circumstance more than they hate Trump
(DIR) Post #AjuCj3l3ubaNwGOxHs by p
2024-07-14T01:13:46.039578Z
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@stux > MAGA are an extemist group that so clear,I'd say assassinations are more "extreme" than whatever you're talking about. Last time he was president, I recall no prison camps and no executions. I don't remember this happening again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point . I *do* remember some federal agents tried to kidnap a governor.> Sorry but I truly dispite the guy in every way..The question was where the threshold is.When someone is both vague and mocking, usually they have no response and they want you to stop asking questions, and often additionally because they don't want to contemplate the answers. There's no reason to do the "Haha oh god :bloblaugh:" routine unless you intend to be unpleasant, you want to try to get under the other person's skin. You could just ask "Please, I'm trying to posture about your country's politics. I don't want any Americans to weigh in. Would you mind?" You don't have to be hostile, I'm reasonable. Either way, the message is received. Have a good evening.abramovic_and_rothschild.jpgnafo_operation.jpgj6feds.jpehoneypot_militia.jpgvelvet_ropes.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuCvEpQZugZkRFbPc by Waerloga
2024-07-14T01:15:58.104913Z
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@p they wanna kill a loud orange nigga because he made a retarded nigga look like a retarded nigga in a debate. Damn.@stux
(DIR) Post #AjuDBhhazi55voRGSG by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T01:18:28.106589Z
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@stux @p Wow, you're a fucking idiot.
(DIR) Post #AjuDtBtAdXFw0QaZnM by p
2024-07-14T01:26:48.205752Z
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@stux > Oh and if those things from Kathy make you overthrow democracy,Doesn't bother me, but it's "extremist rhetoric". You can babble "Oh, it's obvious that 'they' are the evil ones, 'they' are the extremists, 'they' are trying to overthrow democracy."The shooting today is an actually extreme thing, and I've not seen this sort of thing in this country during my lifetime, and "Oh, he's a dictator, he's gonna overthrow democracy" is the sort of thing that people use to justify it.1295233180899790850.mp4
(DIR) Post #AjuEAA2Qlpk9Bn0pHc by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T01:29:23.584276Z
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@stux @p > It's like an kid crying because a classmate made a drawing of you..I hope someone draws a picture of you.
(DIR) Post #AjuEYsPRS2RBknYpqS by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:34:19.859567Z
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@stux @p if some rando attacks a left wing person you guys blame it on everyone to the right with "stochastic terror" as a result of creating a general hostile atmosphere that produces violence. But when someone tries to assassinate a presidential candidate after years of "this person will end democracy" you laugh and shrug. You're a lower than a worm.
(DIR) Post #AjuEZLdyl4IUQHaM1w by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T01:34:22.623697Z
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When I hear people like you talk, I think the EU deserves what it's about to get.
(DIR) Post #AjuEspiLBJYhBcutXc by p
2024-07-14T01:37:56.598553Z
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@sj_zero @stux Might have been a repeat of 1981, Jodie Foster told the shooter to do it. But it could also have been one of those people saying the same thing Stux is saying: "Oh, they're going to end democracy! They're gonna put everyone in concentration camps!"Anyway, I told Stux I'd lay off instead of saying "I live here and what you are saying is crazy" so I'll have to do that at least long enough to see if that's actually what he wants.uk_subs--2--03--jodie_foster.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjuEyyrk4KSjJ7FHai by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:39:02.869440Z
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@sj_zero @p @stux > your guysand your evidence of this is??? or is everyone who's anti-trump one of 'stux's guys'
(DIR) Post #AjuF01X5dfZ3rt5CvQ by SilverDeth
2024-07-14T01:39:14.596409Z
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@stux I wish the maga-cucks were the people you pretend they are.They are not the sort capable of throwing pedo-faggots from roofs, sadly.
(DIR) Post #AjuF32JlB10vAhHhbs by antares@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:39:46.813918Z
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@sun @stux @p I thought for a second a mastodon instance was federating.
(DIR) Post #AjuF8bzVyGPHG6TQ5g by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T01:40:46.745802Z
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@p @stux @sj_zero That hotel where Reagan was shot is still there, looks exactly the same. I know cuz its right by a Whole Foods.
(DIR) Post #AjuFA3a6sPYt7NHOzI by Alex@boymilk.cafe
2024-07-14T01:41:02.978844Z
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So about 50% of American voters are part of an extremist group? That's pretty fucked up, I had no idea extremism was so common in the US.
(DIR) Post #AjuFITaW4K3A5nU65o by Nudhul@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:42:34.306413Z
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@sun @stux @p stochastic terror isnt even a real thing. yet another unfalsifiable schizo dream made up by these mentally ill shitbag freaks
(DIR) Post #AjuFL7xYwFvlslWome by theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe
2024-07-14T01:43:01.058534Z
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@sj_zero @p @stux >have self awarenessThat's unironically way too big of an askVery die hard leftist I know spews the same propaganda without a single shred of thought put into it besides "but it would be mean to not"
(DIR) Post #AjuFOYbcKFwBONtneK by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:43:40.143269Z
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@Nudhul @p @stux there's probably an influence but it's the sole culpability of the person who did the action so I won't blame everyone for what happened to him.
(DIR) Post #AjuFQY1PT4ea9zudQe by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:44:01.602018Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero Stux is a retard who parrots every single normie leftist idea with absolutely no cognitive input of his own, so yeah it's his team.
(DIR) Post #AjuFRajwqYJ8sfF6jg by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:44:13.012184Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero Stux is a retard who parrots every single normie leftist idea with absolutely no cognitive input of his own, so yeah it's his team.
(DIR) Post #AjuFTDbxoGvvj9HeoS by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T01:44:29.965166Z
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I deleted the post moments after writing it because I don't really feel like getting into a dumb political argument.But it's pretty simple: If you're sitting there cheering for an attempted assassination, or apologizing for it, then the assassin is one of "your guys".I hate a lot of politicians, and joking aside I don't want any of them assassinated. I want Justin Trudeau to lose in disgrace and go live out his days in California, not painting the steps of parliament. If someone tried to kill Trudeau, even with all he's done, I'll condemn that guy because once assassinations hit the table, they stay on the table, and it won't take 80 years for republics to end.
(DIR) Post #AjuFY1u0lqR6rQ1HJg by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:45:22.990838Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero so you have evidence that it's not a PRC assassin? Or falung gong? Or Hamas? Or...any of dozens of different non-american groups? Or is that all the same team?
(DIR) Post #AjuFZKAmKLNnoaTnYe by p
2024-07-14T01:45:37.383080Z
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@Waerloga2nd_strongest_orange_dude.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuFboTYdHuONQRyD2 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-14T01:46:02.994426Z
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Where's dark Jeff? He'd embrace "your guys." š
(DIR) Post #AjuFcpoJ9iwMo1dvnc by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:46:15.012887Z
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@stux @p this post had a personal insult in it and I wish I didn't do that, I'm sorry for calling you a name. I edited the post.
(DIR) Post #AjuFfXYVU27j3fXgUi by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:46:44.436002Z
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@sj_zero @p @stux > If someone tried to kill Trudeau, even with all he's done, I'll condemn that guy I won't.
(DIR) Post #AjuFfseF3uBmTXO3qi by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:46:47.430542Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero No it's definitely just some leftist retard. Trump was one of the least militaristic presidents in recent history, there's no reason to assassinate him.
(DIR) Post #AjuFgLE0oVRH6aL1UW by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T01:46:50.815318Z
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hy-po-cri-sy
(DIR) Post #AjuFhAviZlhdSuB9CC by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2024-07-14T01:45:51.701Z
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@sun@shitposter.world Double standards are the name of the game.This is why I can't take the "we have to save democracy" rhetoric seriously. I definitely see how both red and blue teams are guilty of making the states more authoritarian, one side is just a lot more honest about their ideal vision.@stux@mstdn.social @p@fsebugoutzone.org
(DIR) Post #AjuFjQwxz5t3jJq7Zw by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T01:47:26.532149Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @stux @sun i think its bad if someone good dies and good if someone bad dies idk
(DIR) Post #AjuFlofil41zsguRFI by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T01:47:52.435177Z
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@mischievoustomato @p @stux @sun all billionaire pedophiles need to get a bullet to a vital organ instead of some weird ass patsy psyop shit
(DIR) Post #AjuFmznirko6geDMLw by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:48:05.206371Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero > there's no reason to assassinate him.LOLOL you are definitely the most clueless person I've seen today
(DIR) Post #AjuFoVf7tLmfnCup0K by Nudhul@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:48:21.728769Z
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@sun @p @stux when these vermin say stochastic terror what they really mean is the general mood of society. people are angry because terminally miserable tranny demons keep trying to rape their kids.this means that leftoids are the victims because sometimes angry people act before they think
(DIR) Post #AjuFoyYOTSd7OizM2K by vonzeppelin@poa.st
2024-07-14T01:48:26.762526Z
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@stux @p > deportation campssuch an ugly phrase, we'd never do thattemporary facilities for compassionate repatriations, on the other hand, willdon't you want people to be happy and home with their families?
(DIR) Post #AjuFqoQB7LnMYG1P3g by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2024-07-14T01:46:03.016985Z
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@J @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Pleroma has editing you don't have to delete and redraft, unless you're accounting for pete
(DIR) Post #AjuFqp9uNKNIq5PvKy by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:48:45.965071Z
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@kirby @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero I changed the scope.
(DIR) Post #AjuFsITuq7Rw4UTgem by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T01:49:01.941925Z
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No, I just deleted because when he's not ranting about American politics stux is a good guy and I didn't want to fight with him over this.
(DIR) Post #AjuFsf84dUe0JPR4Iy by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:49:06.527928Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero The funny thing is, if this hadn't happened, he probably would have lost even with Biden's mental decline.
(DIR) Post #AjuFtV4JWiXBOo4nfE by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:49:15.626376Z
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@Humpleupagus @p @stux @sj_zero walking a very tightrope line of not breaking SPW's rules on fedposting
(DIR) Post #AjuFwBJdQLQL0OWNai by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T01:49:40.674162Z
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my billionaire pedophile > your billionaire pedohile
(DIR) Post #AjuFzmBWnkRSDpRYPo by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2024-07-14T01:50:16.020437Z
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@sj_zero @J @p @stux @jeffcliff You misread, I was replying to J.
(DIR) Post #AjuG3QxXex8LYBe5dA by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:51:03.182462Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero The only foreign actor who would particularly benefit from assassinating Trump is Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #AjuG4lyT0oBt15iV60 by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T01:51:17.633336Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AjuG7liGRLkR4hZBfE by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T01:51:50.020256Z
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Follows directly. The PRC may not be "your guys" but in that moment while doing the thing you want them to do and you apologized for and you defended, that guy is "your guy".Besides, it's looking increasing like it's a far left American. Which it would make sense for it to be.
(DIR) Post #AjuGAG5eT9xZrph2Uy by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:52:17.503755Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero and your evidence that ukraine is not involved is . . . ?
(DIR) Post #AjuGF7o2hFJjcfmEym by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:53:10.342561Z
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@sj_zero @p @stux > Follows directly. The PRC may not be "your guys" but in that moment while doing the thing you want them to do and you apologized for and you defended, that guy is "your guy".ok vic teows
(DIR) Post #AjuGIk0X7YPCyHLNY0 by Diceynes@annihilation.social
2024-07-14T01:53:48.243848Z
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@marine @stux this stux guy is like a alien species. Nothing that you can recognize as a fellow species or even planetary origin (for real)
(DIR) Post #AjuGIqLfXssSdZHLKC by p
2024-07-14T01:53:50.971786Z
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@jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux > or is everyone who's anti-trump one of 'stux's guys' To be fair, when he talks about the "MAGA extremists", he's casting a very wide net to make his own case.
(DIR) Post #AjuGMndtY41zP2grFQ by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T01:54:33.213870Z
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@stux @p the deportation camps were built by Obama. Not Trump. MAGA is hardly an extremist group. Now I can think of an extremist group that tells you to cut off your childās genitals because āthey (the child) knows whatās best for themāThe convicted criminal thing is also a wash because itās painfully obvious that the democrats did it in an attempt to keep him from winning reelection.
(DIR) Post #AjuGTCdFYCPCe0RRrM by Nudhul@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:55:43.020682Z
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@marine @p @stux obama would be a lot cooler if he killed everyone in those camps.
(DIR) Post #AjuGUZh5ICyiSVtD8a by Waerloga
2024-07-14T01:55:58.181838Z
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@p i love this meme omg
(DIR) Post #AjuGWlSwUoTVY2Jpya by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T01:56:21.039957Z
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@Diceynes @stux I can tell heās fucking retarded. I get heās from the netherlands, but I didnāt think their education system could be this poor.
(DIR) Post #AjuGXZmVQLphbBrAPY by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T01:56:30.025357Z
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@Nudhul @p @stux REAL.
(DIR) Post #AjuGZvjMmu4YFjVimu by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:56:55.395184Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero Maybe they are but it's infinitely more likely that it's just some schizo lefty.Surprise! When the government and media spend 10 years lying about him, unconstitutionally litigating him for crimes that aren't crimes, and comparing him to mass murderers, he's more likely to be killed.What's most surprising is that it took this long.
(DIR) Post #AjuGa0hmIElxgFo1VQ by ageha@tomo.airen-no-jikken.icu
2024-07-14T01:56:56.618421Z
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@sun @p @stux former situation is more like- "ćć are demons! child-abusers! murderous satan-spawn no pity" said about specific non-public-figures-and-institutions- 1~2 days later the specified target gets a flood of bomb threats, shouty picketers and something or other violent act- speaker sees this result, is pleased, and then does it again with another targetlike where target is a little hospital or one person working at a ymca somewhere. not a president
(DIR) Post #AjuGeRI5OGcbICtt8i by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:57:44.644845Z
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@jeffcliff @p @sj_zero @stux It's not just Trump, either, the American media did the same thing to George W. Bush. It's anyone right wing, their goal is to incite violence against conservative leaders.
(DIR) Post #AjuGk4PbMl0G4a6Jo8 by Diceynes@annihilation.social
2024-07-14T01:58:44.233820Z
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@marine @stux Jesus I know from Norway the stupidity he has. This stupidity is a particular brand of European brainwashing. I know the brand from Norway. It's fucking annoying and makes you want for them to live on street hustling for food to learn to be streetwise
(DIR) Post #AjuGk5ayxvhVkAQvBY by zop@7td.org
2024-07-14T01:58:45.421732Z
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@p @stux good for you you found the ONE fucking whataboutism! How about the people mowed down in Charlottesville? How about Jan 6? How about the dead in Pulse nightclub? Club Q? The MAGAts are already conducting warfare against the United States and its citizens.
(DIR) Post #AjuGk5u7ol0shXOD1U by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:58:46.113853Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero > spend 10 years lying about him, unconstitutionally litigating him for crimes that aren't crimes, Rape is a crime. So is what he did at the parties he was at with epstein.> comparing him to mass murderershe IS a mass murderer.
(DIR) Post #AjuGk7juzg2MOSd5OK by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T01:58:45.985454Z
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@gabriel @stux @sun @p the people actively killing ādemocracyā are the people arguing that Trump would kill our democracy.
(DIR) Post #AjuGm9h6hIeh2EHcVE by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:59:08.168239Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero ok retard
(DIR) Post #AjuGmU98emxgSxYHyK by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:59:12.101415Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero George Bush has the blood of millions on his hands. Fuck george bush.
(DIR) Post #AjuGnoC9bO62w3ar3Y by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T01:59:26.396923Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero :KysRope:
(DIR) Post #AjuGoxcW2qN2SNTPVI by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T01:59:38.630122Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero So does every leader in the history of the world. Boo hoo.
(DIR) Post #AjuGtkafusN1UftdMu by p
2024-07-14T02:00:31.176230Z
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@sun @stux Well, he is Dutch, he has a monarch, etc., so to be fair, he might not actually know any of that, he's not here.
(DIR) Post #AjuGu6Pmm2jRBGyFRw by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:00:34.333323Z
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@Diceynes @stux People like this are the exact reason that Europe is going down the path it is tbh
(DIR) Post #AjuGxQ7Ty6UbA9zXWK by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:01:10.585953Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero Sorry, the vast majority of leaders do not have the blood of millions on their hands. The list who can claim that isn't zero of course, but Bush is on it.
(DIR) Post #AjuGzOb8b4hj1SnwgK by p
2024-07-14T02:01:32.361950Z
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@ins0mniak @sj_zero @stux Sirhan Sirhan comes up for parole periodically, because he's here in this state.
(DIR) Post #AjuGzVCE45w7UECeK8 by Diceynes@annihilation.social
2024-07-14T02:01:32.454235Z
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@marine @stux exactly. Makes me feel I am being drawn down the void by them.
(DIR) Post #AjuGzWQRUiu1IbrW7c by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:01:33.093452Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero except he wasnāt charged for rape. He was charged for giving Stormy Daniels hush money.
(DIR) Post #AjuH1DewEnt3fyS4nI by branman65@poa.st
2024-07-14T02:01:51.865490Z
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@stux @p are you joking? is this satire?
(DIR) Post #AjuH1Rq5W97lebmB7I by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T02:01:54.108784Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero No because wars weren't fought on the modern scale until recently, but every world leader is responsible for wars.It's not that big a deal, you just hate White people.
(DIR) Post #AjuH392oMogtwTXK1g by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T02:02:11.808675Z
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@p @stux @sj_zero I think they let John Hinkly out if I remember correctly
(DIR) Post #AjuH68lXrJOhwmt9w8 by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:02:43.674860Z
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@TheRealKat @stux That slunds qute unconstitutional
(DIR) Post #AjuH9O01g3Pa3uD3ui by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:03:20.281401Z
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@marine @J @p @stux @sj_zero Not that case.He was *convicted* of rape.
(DIR) Post #AjuHEch8T4PV5Qs45g by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:04:15.031175Z
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@TheRealKat @stux That sounds quite unconstitutional to me.Why "Democrats" hste US Constitution that much? What's next? Censorship?
(DIR) Post #AjuHHsitKbq7fNFJs8 by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T02:04:51.383204Z
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You don't get convicted of civil claims.
(DIR) Post #AjuHI4wnsi69ZzqbDs by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:04:54.663339Z
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@J @p @stux @sj_zero > but every world leader is responsible for wars.That isn't true, but even if it wereit would be up to us to hold them to account for that to put a stop to that
(DIR) Post #AjuHJapcp2D2kxDC5I by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T02:05:09.764575Z
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He wasn't even charged for that. He was charged for calling the money he gave to his lawyer money for legal fees when he should have called it something else, and then it was upgraded to a felony modifying the statute of limitations because technically it could have been considered trying to do so in pursuit of campaign finance violations.So it's a felony conviction of getting a line item wrong on his taxes.
(DIR) Post #AjuHLODufcakEQQequ by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:05:28.786617Z
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@p @stux But we been trying to get rid Drumpfff!! He is Hitler and Satan !!
(DIR) Post #AjuHN4ig9izqJxchFI by J@cawfee.club
2024-07-14T02:05:48.526630Z
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@jeffcliff @marine @p @stux @sj_zero Are you talking about the civil case where he was convicted of defamation because he defending himself against the allegations?
(DIR) Post #AjuHNR3L7aaxaPSVVI by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:05:52.025401Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero Incorrect! He was found liable but not guilty of sexual abuse, and not rapeYou see how those words are different words? Yeah. Exactly. Please stop redefining things to fit your narrative. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935
(DIR) Post #AjuHR0X5fGhuUg4t3g by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:06:31.386205Z
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@marine @J @p @stux @sj_zero the judge corrected the record later to rape
(DIR) Post #AjuHRnmiXxK3FKlYie by p
2024-07-14T02:06:40.414463Z
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@sj_zero @jeffcliff @stux General agreement and i know you did say you don't want to argue but, my apologies, I must take issue with this:> and go live out his days in California,No. (Cuba might have no objections to taking him, though. :chelol:)
(DIR) Post #AjuHTJQIOxExf0zyoy by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:06:56.391962Z
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@p @stux I know he's not american and I shouldn't assume he's knowledgeable about american arguments about this stuff even though it's widespread. I dialed back my aggression because he was saying violence was not right response and to some extent I agree that people shouldn't get mad about the decapitation thing (and it's not a real death threat.) I just remember that before that happened the same people that were saying it was no big deal were saying that "here's where we should focus our fundraising" flyer with gunsight targets was called dangerous.
(DIR) Post #AjuHTlk76rjJUaUCbA by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:06:58.942533Z
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@0 @p @stux I need to disagree here.Stux is wrong, but I don't think he is necessarily stupid for getting the wrong position.It's okay to disagree, even if he suffers Trump derangement syndrome.
(DIR) Post #AjuHclIQ8j8EiHoxu4 by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T02:08:36.333197Z
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Fair enough in that regard. I was thinking of another PM who was unpopular near the end of his career who got the boot and lived out his days comfortably in Florida but I didn't think Florida was a good fit for him.
(DIR) Post #AjuHd2ScK4OBwpiqem by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:08:41.824452Z
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@marine @J @p @stux @sj_zero https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
(DIR) Post #AjuHdgsC4OcDHjzq4m by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T02:08:46.729362Z
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ah, another case of "clueless euro speaks about america while not knowing america"
(DIR) Post #AjuHfKn58v8JNQOCGm by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:09:04.163023Z
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@sj_zero @J @p @kirby @stux @jeffcliff It's okay to disagree, people need to stay civilized between different point of views about everything.Except Marxism and Fascism, those are brain dead and dangerous ideologies
(DIR) Post #AjuHnt9PHDuKG8uVeK by p
2024-07-14T02:10:39.907365Z
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@jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux He's got the "MAGA extremists" and lumping them in with normie Republicans and "ending democracy" and whatnot; so if we're going to reexamine who counts as what, we could start from the beginning.
(DIR) Post #AjuHoqcABwy0gPooAC by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:10:49.303807Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero Yes, by the colloquial definition, it is. By the legal definition, it is not. It is sexual abuse because they could not fully prove it was the legal definition of rape. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/29/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll/72295009007/Either way, he was found āliableā, not guilty. And, while this is speculation, he was most likely found liable over the fact he outright denied it (and still does)
(DIR) Post #AjuHugT8pEqOxGNiMK by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:11:53.095620Z
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@marine @J @p @stux @sj_zero He is a convicted rapist according to the judge who convicted with him, a legitimate judge in the US court system. He is a rapist.
(DIR) Post #AjuHul0Fy3i517uDWy by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T02:11:23.843470Z
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@waltercool @p @stux If one finds oneself citing anti-extremism to defend assassination attempts one is an idiot. I do not know how else to interpret it, it fails a basic understanding of the terms used.
(DIR) Post #AjuHxXSCneGXrcIxyS by p
2024-07-14T02:12:24.549655Z
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@gabriel @stux @sun > red and blue teams are guilty of making the states more authoritarian,Accurate.trolleycolor.png
(DIR) Post #AjuI5gdKYSE8eMOTvU by p
2024-07-14T02:13:52.907759Z
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@meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun You think the powder keg could survive the assassination of a presidential candidate?
(DIR) Post #AjuI8wDn3Tp1rdzwA4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T02:14:26Z
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@sj_zero> Besides, it's looking increasing like it's a far left American. Which it would make sense for it to be.You mean like the one who killed JFK (see the movie and Bill Hicks' comments)? In reality, The sort of leftist who might consider that "the ends justify the means" is generally not the sort who knows which end of a gun you point at people, let alone an elite sniper. It's just as likely to a be a Reichstag fire style tactic by the Orange Felon's campaign.(1/2)@p @stux @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AjuIDydnUG0goeZ70y by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:15:21.816885Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero civil cases donāt work like that. I donāt care what some retarded judge says since New York courts have been shown to be illegitimate as they deny federal law. I also donāt care what one of your blogposters says. If she wants to go for Trump about that, she needs to do the same thing for everyone else in Epsteinās little black book, but she wonāt since they fit her agenda. Academia is utterly screwed and irreparably so.
(DIR) Post #AjuIHkiVCMoQn0ZAps by p
2024-07-14T02:16:03.743678Z
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@vonzeppelin @stux I don't know, he seems to think that these were new facilities that Trump built to apprehend people at the border.
(DIR) Post #AjuIKIEVYahVJjkS1I by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T02:16:30.426880Z
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@p @stux @vonzeppelin Trump didnāt build them. Obama did.
(DIR) Post #AjuIWaC2bhUiUkSEy0 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T02:18:39.034712Z
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We call them "Obama Cages."
(DIR) Post #AjuIaIgpcsmnMqd4tM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T02:19:23Z
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What I think is more likely than either is that it wasn't a leftist *or* someone hired by GoP strategists. I can think of 2 other groups who have a motive? 1) The surveillance agencies; interfering in democratic elections and assassinating political leaders unfriendly to their interests has been common practice for decades. As we saw from 2016-2020, they're no fans of Agent Orange. The best argument against this is they would have succeeded (again, JFK).(2/?)@sj_zero @p @stux @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AjuIfRmtEEAz20uv7g by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:20:20.308033Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @p @stux 2) whatever faction of the CIA that did RFK in (or maybe the other faction)
(DIR) Post #AjuImYDLjSmWzUgGS8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T02:21:36Z
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2) Corporate strategists who want the Biden administration to lose, but don't care who the next President is, as long as they're from GoP. They have access to well-armed mercenaries, and their interests are served whether the sniper hits or misses, as long as the attack is blamed on the left (again, see JFK). @sj_zero @p @stux @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AjuIpqLCnIHM4vvQ1I by whiteline@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:22:12.916118Z
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@sun @stux @phonestly even my old swedish mom has called for his death for years. "can't somebody just shoot the guy?"
(DIR) Post #AjuIq0PpKxuxKAAFc0 by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:22:11.457944Z
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@0 @p @stux I don't see stux as a supporter of assassination, he is clearly a Democrat and would vote for Hitler or Stalin to prevent Trump reaching power."Vote blue no matter who"I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but the idea to justify political assassination is stupid, no matter if you are Trump , Biden or the Archduke Franz Ferdinand.Nothing good came from killing political opponents, and this "Trump derangement syndrome" by MSM is just a consequence of that. Nihilist people who think "we need to get tid Trump at all cost"
(DIR) Post #AjuJ1RZEjBigif1HDE by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:24:18.656565Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @p @stux I agree that it's most likely a left leaning patriot, but the evidence for anything is thin on the ground on my endthere's also the male relatives of the girls he's raped...the houthis...iran...ukraine...to name a few
(DIR) Post #AjuJJKn4f8jkuj1UFU by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:27:32.819440Z
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@whiteline @p @stux I don't think it's that bad. it's bad if someone actually tries to do it
(DIR) Post #AjuJPkDj1mwhWLXsPI by p
2024-07-14T02:28:42.707658Z
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@sj_zero @kirby @J @stux @jeffcliff > when he's not ranting about American politicsThis year, Europeans cease ranting about our politics. :eagle911:Most especially Nazi bullshit. They've got Golden Dawns in the EU Parliament. They have had a Hitler, we rescued their asses from their own Hitler. We had no Hitler. Not that we've had the best presidents we possibly could, but none of them was Hitler, none of them had to be forcibly removed. They are not the experts on maintaining a Zero-Hitler region. They should be listening to the US.Come_unto_me,_ye_opprest.jpghumoristiche_karte_von_europa_im_jahre_1914.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuJXWvKLgDeb9eVHs by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T02:29:37.275132Z
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@p @J @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero That's so weird, the forgot Ukraine and they misspelled Crimea.
(DIR) Post #AjuJaN3vT9fosn1r7o by p
2024-07-14T02:30:37.939224Z
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@jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux If it was a European, we nuke Europe.
(DIR) Post #AjuJl5Zmp3hDpt2fyK by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:32:33.831032Z
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@p @J @stux @sj_zero you know...europe has nukes too that would not end well
(DIR) Post #AjuJnWBYrR2WwTrxg0 by nach@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:33:00.254555Z
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@stux @p >Grow upsays the guy calling an old orange man a dictator :shrug2:
(DIR) Post #AjuJnpuZWJKk7a4fyK by whiteline@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:33:03.616121Z
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@sun @p @stux yeah but like, people _legit_ want him dead because they think he's horrible and has no nredeeming qualities that'd evoke empathylike lots of normal people, not just ideologues as with other political figures
(DIR) Post #AjuJvq4IovpcvORS08 by p
2024-07-14T02:34:30.722510Z
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@Nudhul @marine @stuxobamashirt.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuK4LzG21WaEe8sRU by p
2024-07-14T02:36:03.056265Z
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@Waerlogawall.gif
(DIR) Post #AjuKTuDtsaQFelAwBE by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:40:35.902108Z
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@sun @p @stux They have no morals. If "democracy" meant anything, it'd mean government decisions are decided by elections and elected officials, which would mean Orange Faggot is more democratic than a vegetable used as a puppet by unelected bureaucrats. Trump is the last vestige of American democracy, for better and for worse. But they'd rather suck off the shadow government to own the chuds.
(DIR) Post #AjuKq4E5Mwyf3DpUEC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T02:44:38Z
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@jeffcliff > I agree that it's most likely a left leaning patriotWhy? Aside from the somewhat flippant counterargument I already offered, I'm not aware of any group on the US left calling for political violence. Unlike on the right where this is par for the course these days among Team Orange Felon.Secondly, even if a leftist shooter was conceivable, they wouldn't have chosen a political rally. Plenty of other places where there wasn't a risk of bystanders being hit.@p @stux @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjuKyTvhgiR95NFB32 by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T02:46:11.323872Z
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@strypey @p @stux @sj_zero I agree with the poasters: this guy *looks* left-leaning white redneck.But I agree: the evidence is very scarce on the ground and I could be easily convinced otherwise with some good data either way
(DIR) Post #AjuKyhYp0aS5MSe6KG by ErleG@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T02:46:05Z
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@stux Stux, democracy in the US is already DEAD! Vote them out? How well did that work in 2016 and 2020?
(DIR) Post #AjuKzREBDfGyzlLGXQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T02:46:20Z
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@jeffcliffThis was calculated to get *immediate* broadcast media attention (and thus social media attention), and to inflame tensions. You've got to ask yourself, who stands to benefit from that? Not the left, who are now at risk of being targeted by revenge attacks.@p @stux @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjuLBAdUjUUd0nmFQe by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:48:25.441772Z
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@ArdainianRight @sun @p @stux They are so shameless that they will openly say absurd shit like accusing any anti-immigration politician of being "anti-democracy", even if that stance represents the majority of voters - legitimate voters that is, because I guess given their commitment to the Great Replacement, leftists think ALL 3rd worlders should have voting rights in the US.
(DIR) Post #AjuLOpbJjn1XpKGy80 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:50:40.217067Z
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@ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun Democracy = Jewish rule.
(DIR) Post #AjuLQOPdnIJs5CYVtY by nach@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:50:52.444105Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero >Why? Aside from the somewhat flippant counterargument I already offered, I'm not aware of any group on the US left calling for political violence.I love bad faith discussions! this was posted a few posts back lmao
(DIR) Post #AjuLSYSnOcSnpn3vPs by samjayganges@poa.st
2024-07-14T02:51:37.471549Z
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@jeffcliff @strypey @p @stux @sj_zero Dwaine Dixon, the man who brandished a rifle threateningly in front of James Fields, causing him to flee in a panic and drive through the protestors who were attacking his car at Charlottesville, was a member of the antifa group Redneck Revolution/Rebellion and also a professor at NC state.
(DIR) Post #AjuLhPntsHaTJx1Hg8 by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:54:17.681220Z
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@nach @strypey @jeffcliff @p @sj_zero @stux Obviously the overwhelming majority of modern leftists wish for Trump to be assassinated, just like they consider election fraud justified to stop Orange Hitler, they just don't like the consequences of such beliefs being know.
(DIR) Post #AjuLjdmwqop5GxdTM0 by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:54:42.540080Z
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@nach @strypey @jeffcliff @p @sj_zero @stux It doesn't exist if I pretend it doesn't, and count on my opponents not knowing better.
(DIR) Post #AjuLkLLUuF0cMZ8Afw by rlier23@bae.st
2024-07-14T02:54:50.200104Z
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@ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight @p @stux @sun we all know how these fucking pests work, anything they don't like is a "threat to democracy" they only know how to cry wolf.im just praying one day the wolf comes out for real and to see their faces melt in horror as no one believes their bullshit anymore :top_kek:
(DIR) Post #AjuLnTBGEU5lWzpjea by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T02:55:23.421563Z
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@rlier23 @ArdainianRight @p @stux @sun I SO wish Trump was everything they accuse him of being.
(DIR) Post #AjuLzQ4TcRxFMXMHSK by TheRealKat@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T02:41:28Z
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@waltercool @stux 1)The myth you're buying into is "gun safety laws are unconstitutional!" No one wants to take away your right to bear arms! we're talking bout automatic weaponry, 3D printed guns that can't even be traced, bump stocks that turn a regular weapon into a massive killing machine, Etc! Satistically mass shootings are done by someone who shouldn't have been able to get a gun in the 1st place let alone a mass destruction weapon. The obsession...
(DIR) Post #AjuLzQfLPNRfCsbivA by TheRealKat@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T02:42:29Z
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@waltercool @stux2)...with guns in this country is alarming! It's no wonder we're one of the leading countries with the most gun fatalities! Also, statistically countries with stronger gun laws have less! Basically you're saying you don't give a f*** about the people mass shooters are killing. Kudos for you.
(DIR) Post #AjuLzR4rsTrUU2Y6hk by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:57:29.801564Z
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@TheRealKat @stux I'm not entirely in disagreement with you, but USA have a mental illness problem. People had fully automatic pistols and rifles without major issues until 80s(?)All mass shooters are made by "miserable losers with crappy lives, nihilistic mindset". Many countries have gun rights and you don't see many people using them to randomly shoot innocent people. At best, they kill because gang or dispute.In order to kill innocent and unknown people, your mind must have no remorse or respect to human lives. Not even drug cartels would kill randomers.Mental health is a serious problem and USA doesn't take care of them. If you take full-auto, they will use semi-auto, if you take semi-auto, they will use revolvers or self-made. If you get rid of gun powder, they will use knifes or create black powder.Someone who wants to kill, will do that regardless of the law.
(DIR) Post #AjuM7a5iFVbEktpPdI by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T02:59:00.657847Z
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@TheRealKat @stux I'm not entirely in disagreement with you, but USA have a mental illness problem. People had fully automatic pistols and rifles without major issues until 80s(?)All mass shooters are made by "miserable losers with crappy lives, nihilistic mindset". Many countries have gun rights and you don't see many people using them to randomly shoot innocent people. At best, they kill because gang or dispute.In order to kill innocent and unknown people, your mind must have no remorse or respect to human lives. Not even drug cartels would kill randomers.Mental health is a serious problem and USA doesn't take care of them. If you take full-auto, they will use semi-auto, if you take semi-auto, they will use revolvers or self-made. If you get rid of gun powder, they will use knifes or create black powder.Someone who wants to kill, will do that regardless of the law.
(DIR) Post #AjuMBXKkRYCXMTkNaC by suquili@poa.st
2024-07-14T02:59:45.244761Z
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@ChristiJunior @rlier23 @ArdainianRight @p @stux @sun Then he could be a martyr. Best weāll get from this is 10x as many angry boomers yapping about 1776 happening again, just like when he got convicted
(DIR) Post #AjuMMMQHLkK0hwUlrU by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:01:42.259159Z
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@suquili @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun If Trump were actually killed, it would scare the Boomers senseless, because then they'd be forced to do something more than voooote harder.
(DIR) Post #AjuMPgewZESCL4wOJs by p
2024-07-14T03:02:18.986497Z
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@zop @stux > good for you you found the ONE fucking whataboutism!"One"? I picked the recognizable one.> How about the people mowed down in Charlottesville?Or the sniper that attacked the truck caravan just north of Los Angeles, where I live.> How about Jan 6?How about the buildings on fire during the riots in 2020?> How about the dead in Pulse nightclub?:arafatlol: Pulse was a religious shooting.> Club Q?The Covenant School, Nashville, 2023.> The MAGAts are already conducting warfare against the United States and its citizens.So I hear "No Trump, no wall, no USA at all" being chanted by people flying the :ancom: flags, and I'd say those people are opposed to "the United States and its citizens", but you're grasping: none of that is warfare.Assassination attempts are an escalation. "Yeah, but orange man bad, assassination justified THEY ARE CONDUCTING WARFARE" just digs a trench.6f79a7f8-971e-4e5c-8e64-d0ae144b633e-large16x9_omg-934023166.JPG715bd2a10a24de20f1315b78835d7a56720f3b01b1ba3db1628f27549362ade2.jpeg2164_bcd79f9fdbefad7f.png.webpdadsafsaf-e1517057624902-1024x640-607910317.jpgmaxresdefault-1788402312.jpgrawImage-325646935.jpgtrump-doll_37782331_ver1.0-3546437427.png
(DIR) Post #AjuMig4qxJX22H7Cc4 by p
2024-07-14T03:05:44.915646Z
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@jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux > at the parties he was at with epstein.Oh, no...Everything really *does* end up in the same place with Dark Jeff. :epsteinsmug::billg:gatesupdategraffiti.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuMn2AsjymdjA0pUm by nach@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:06:31.858365Z
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@zop @p @stux "it's ok when my fringe political party does it!"
(DIR) Post #AjuMy2aJYWMMBX9lp2 by p
2024-07-14T03:08:31.505366Z
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@zop @stux Actually, two of those were completely unrelated. I don't know, I basically checked out the second I started hearing your post in Maddow's voice, like, are we doing the pee tape and the Steele Dossier next?
(DIR) Post #AjuN17gz1SBOtWkIEa by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:09:03.846480Z
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@zop @p @stux Implying those leftists and fags didn't deserve it.Rest in piss Heather Heyer.
(DIR) Post #AjuN2avfo10JrRJoGW by smokescreen@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:09:20.503825Z
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@ChristiJunior @rlier23 @ArdainianRight @p @stux @sun heres hoping he now realizes this is game of thrones and he better become everything they accuse him of being
(DIR) Post #AjuN6LhuLJRBoDfbeq by p
2024-07-14T03:10:01.597189Z
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@jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux Can we do FDR next?
(DIR) Post #AjuNA6D7tsGAuE3oWm by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2024-07-14T03:10:41.436938Z
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@ChristiJunior @zop @p @stux the real victim here was that dodge challenger
(DIR) Post #AjuNBmdHf6yilT6Ajo by pogrommer@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:11:00.132836Z
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@ChristiJunior @zop @p @stux there's some goy going around with a user name of "Fitness by Heather Heyer". i always laugh when i see it.
(DIR) Post #AjuNC9uR7VMgxKIhAO by p
2024-07-14T03:11:04.591061Z
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@marine @jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux ...Which is legal. The charge was that he misappropriated funds when paying the hush money.
(DIR) Post #AjuNFbpBmuK4P1UWhM by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T03:11:34.624003Z
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Jeff... You're talking about law here, and law is very specific about a lot of things you're getting wrong.First, there are two types of law: Civil and Criminal.Criminal law is where the state accuses you of a crime. Upon the state successfully getting a conviction(which is what it is called in criminal court and only criminal court), you are then going to be punished by the state for that crime. As well, the legal standard must be "beyond a reasonable doubt", which is a very high standard of likelihood.Civil law is for making whole after damages are done to another person. This isn't something where the state accuses you, it's acting as the arbiter between two people, and will find in favor of one party or the other. The judge and jury don't convict anyone of anything, they find someone has caused damages to another and then make restitution. In a civil case, you could lose completely, but nobody is going to "convict" anyone of anything, because you don't get convictions in civil court. As well, the legal standard must be "by a preponderance of the evidence" which is a relatively low standard, 51%.Criminal cases aren't civil cases and civil cases aren't criminal cases. They have different rules, different methods, different outcomes. You can win one and lose the other, as you can see by when OJ Simpson famously was found "not guilty" in his criminal case but was nonetheless found liable for the deaths in his civil case. Despite losing the civil case, OJ Simpson was not convicted of anything.Second, the Judge doesn't get to decide facts when there's a jury present (There are trials where the judge is the fact finder. These are called "bench trials", but the trials in question are not bench trials). The jury is the fact finding body, that's why they're there. Therefore, if the jury found that under the jury instructions provided by the judge that one tort was committed (and they did) then that's the tort committed. The idea that it was a different tort because the judge said so is simply wrong, that's not how courts work. Even the Supreme court is extremely wary about ignoring the findings of fact from a jury, and the bar for doing so is incredibly high. You'd basically never get a judge disregarding a jury decision without very good cause.Finally, you said the judge "corrected the record", but that's a specific term of art for a formal process in law that a judge commenting for an interview is not doing that. There is a court record in law, which is why there is a court reporter writing a court transcript and why everything else is written, because other filings are also part of that court record. Sometimes that record is incorrect and must be corrected, invoking the process of "correcting the record". In this case, giving an interview or answering questions in a news article later is not "correcting the record", it's just giving an opinion on a previous case. It matters a lot when you're talking law because these terms are very specific. A judge correcting the record is a very specific thing that was not done here.
(DIR) Post #AjuNHlVIlu2F09DXIu by ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:12:04.745313Z
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@skylar @zop @p @stux I literally named that image "Poor Car".
(DIR) Post #AjuNPACjKmuRdT3ga8 by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2024-07-14T03:13:25.080338Z
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@zop @p @stux all deserved itimagine how much funnier january 6th would have been if boomerwaffen had managed to enter the capitol and beat a congress critter to death with a dragon dildo or something
(DIR) Post #AjuNRWQFhOTb7gVXvc by p
2024-07-14T03:13:51.184633Z
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@ins0mniak @sj_zero @stux Oh, yeah. Not right away, he had been involuntarily committed until 2016, when he was trying to play folk music shows in DC, you probably remember that. Fuckin' weird shit, man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley_Jr.
(DIR) Post #AjuNRgEDF0mtXEx4YC by jeffcliff@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T03:13:52.591171Z
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@marine @J @p @stux "so legally he didn't rape her while raping her, even though the judge has clearly and publicly stated that it was rape" - @sj_zero defending rapists is not OK and you're going right back to mute.
(DIR) Post #AjuNWzjS9aGNTP6AQC by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T03:14:48.421510Z
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This new shooter looks like they're on HRT.
(DIR) Post #AjuNfg1SnoL8x3f9Bg by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T03:16:23.610385Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero but everything he said is correct? I literally worked in the legal profession. None of that is wrong, and applies to more than just ādefending a rapistā
(DIR) Post #AjuNfneMRac6biuoHw by p
2024-07-14T03:16:26.012757Z
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@waltercool @stuxatleastwegotridoftrump.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuNhGjTnjmL5x0gOu by Suzu@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:16:41.603475Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero didn't Obama use to drone strike children in the middle east for shits and giggles?
(DIR) Post #AjuNhs8wi18N7eD2jQ by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T03:16:46.972642Z
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@p @stux @sj_zero Yeah he's a weird ass guy.I think he still lives in Virginia downstate somewhere.
(DIR) Post #AjuNlNwkvAumcyBNzs by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2024-07-14T03:17:23.483940Z
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@sun @p @stux my fav was for the pre-edited post
(DIR) Post #AjuNmFsiOPlhu4hvCC by p
2024-07-14T03:17:36.007224Z
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@jeffcliff @marine @J @sj_zero @stux > the judge corrected the record later to rapeMaybe you can do that in Soviet Canada, but that is not legal here.
(DIR) Post #AjuNtE9JERjGYdnH2O by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T03:18:50.569456Z
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@p @J @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero itās technically allowed if you go through the actual legal process. I havenāt seen anything that says that was done.
(DIR) Post #AjuNyMz3oQ4jPES5qq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T03:19:44.995879Z
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My favorite part of that case was she stole the story from Law & Order SVU, and the dress she claimed to wear -- she didn't remember a year -- wasn't made until decades later.
(DIR) Post #AjuO4uTYCg6n14pf6W by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-14T03:20:50.411547Z
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@p @stux Watching p take apart stux's condesecnding smug is quite satisfying.
(DIR) Post #AjuO4xWUsBFQT5EYc4 by suquili@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:20:58.548458Z
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@stux @p MAGA arent extremists, we are. Heil Hitler
(DIR) Post #AjuOErG51IwZvyH7Gi by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-14T03:22:37.072159Z
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@waltercool @stux @TheRealKat Also armed citizens are important for the explicit purpose of telling the government to fuck off when it, say, passes laws mandating cuckoldry.
(DIR) Post #AjuOPkz6gb2Bf5X6fI by PoalackJokes88@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:24:44.041502Z
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@zop @p @stux >people mowed down in CharlottesvilleOne death, Heather Hayer, and that was more like suicide by hamburger. And an antifa professor bragged about chasing the Dodge Challenger while brandishing his AR15. The cops themselves reported that they intentionally turned it into a riot.>How about Jan 6?Only death was caused by a trigger happy black cop.>Pulse nightclub?Gay muslim immigrant.>Club Q?Literal tranny.
(DIR) Post #AjuOQF3OtCIIv5lxWS by p
2024-07-14T03:24:49.608098Z
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@sun @stux > I agree that people shouldn't get mad about the decapitation thing (and it's not a real death threat.)Yeah, absolutely; the thing that irks me is the people that throw a fit about it based on the political affiliations of the person that did it.
(DIR) Post #AjuOYyTJuTTq693nX6 by suquili@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:26:23.949041Z
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@ArdainianRight @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun They wouldnt do shit. They donāt know anything except talk.
(DIR) Post #AjuOhWMvlXHnXo9B9k by ArdainianRight@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T03:27:54.150101Z
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@suquili @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun They might buy grifter merch too!
(DIR) Post #AjuOuy3c8FNnBPWWps by p
2024-07-14T03:30:22.787580Z
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@jeffcliff @marine @J @sj_zero @stux > A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference.An article about a civil suit, incidentally. I don't think anything that actually matters is going to come out of disputing this part.
(DIR) Post #AjuP4cTVEJPd8sEeDA by CaptainButthurt@mstdn.jp
2024-07-14T03:32:06Z
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@ArdainianRight @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @suquili @sun bah... They'd be watching sportsball the very next day and sucking down zogs bread and circuses.
(DIR) Post #AjuP5XUBGSp5xTzUgK by waltercool@pl.slash.cl
2024-07-14T03:32:14.008857Z
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@Zergling_man @TheRealKat @stux This is is the main reason why USA is protected against baf politicians who want to get rid of people by political ideas, race or religion.People at USA have the right to defend themselves from tyrannical governments. Not many nations have a powerful self-defense statement.People from Palestine had not this right and had to flee other countries when Israel war happened. Same as wealthy Jews who flee when Nazis or Communist regimes happened at Europe.
(DIR) Post #AjuPHcETRUIm9fP1ge by suquili@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:34:28.048445Z
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@CaptainButthurt @ArdainianRight @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun Unfortunately. The fall of the country for them is more of a minor nuisance that just kinda annoys them. Itās not a huge deal because they got their money and toys to keep them comfy.
(DIR) Post #AjuPRZTiXM6cVcHPbk by givenup@poa.st
2024-07-14T03:36:15.909497Z
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@suquili @CaptainButthurt @ArdainianRight @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun fall of the country means no money, toys are just targets for anyone who can overpower the old fucks.
(DIR) Post #AjuPYYeK18rxxtZUki by CaptainButthurt@mstdn.jp
2024-07-14T03:37:30Z
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@suquili @rlier23 @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @p @stux @sun exactly. They've had the most comfortable lives of any generation in American history. They got to ride the post war economic wave and then enjoyed many things before fiats spiraled too far down the toilet.
(DIR) Post #AjuPqC8wQvntNNIsj2 by p
2024-07-14T03:40:43.325324Z
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@jeffcliff @marine @J @sj_zero @stux > He is a convicted rapist according to the judge who convicted with him,This actually is a distinction that exists outside NY state law. A conviction is what you get when a court of proper jurisdiction finds someone guilty of a crime. The cause of Carroll v. Trump was "28:2679(d)(2) Federal Tort Claims Act - Employee of U.S.A." This was a tort; one is not found "guilty" of a tort, there is no "conviction", you are treating very specific legal jargon the same way JavaScript treats types.Anyway, today a bullet attempted to rape the former president's face.12ab2e391866316428ef24bbb8d51f6623f3e0f19eec6369cf8e9e2057876c9e.png
(DIR) Post #AjuQ3iluQstoKtypo8 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T03:43:07.668625Z
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People that have no idea the difference between civil and criminal law aren't worth arguing with... it's like trying to explain organic chemistry to a two year old.
(DIR) Post #AjuQ8rHoCfMkBvLng8 by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T03:43:55Z
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@stux While I enitirely agree, let's not kid ourselves:Political violence is *exactly* what The Orange Fasicst and his fascist ilk want.They just want to target it exclusively to others.
(DIR) Post #AjuQV048F5Epn6VlTs by p
2024-07-14T03:48:05.803325Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @stux @jeffcliff > It's just as likely to a be a Reichstag fire style tactic by the Orange Felon's campaign.A bullet goes by the guy's face and hits his ear. I do not think the Reichstag Fire involved a margin of error so slim that a stiff breeze was the difference between success and an exploding head. In one, a fake case of arson was used, and in the other, a bullet went through a man's ear, other bullets struck people behind him. It is extremely *unlikely* that this claim would be present for any sort of reason other than to force the association.If you want a false flag that is close to the Reichstag Fire--property crime conducted under cover of night with no deaths or injuries--this is closer:pelosibrick.png
(DIR) Post #AjuQex9nuXNzfMuVU0 by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T03:49:53Z
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@p Are you paid by Putin or Xi or are you just a rotten to the core fascist?Rhetorical question ofc.Welcome to my blocklist.@stux
(DIR) Post #AjuQh3fWfi0KROkfya by p
2024-07-14T03:50:16.557925Z
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@marine @stux @vonzeppelin I was going to say "Yes, that was the implication" but then I remembered that this was a politics thread on fedi with people that think the media is not selective in its presentation of events.
(DIR) Post #AjuQvIIh4HP5sHrPTk by harblinger@wizard.casa
2024-07-14T03:52:49.934264Z
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@stux @p "Haha"
(DIR) Post #AjuRCyVhO11xi0NGue by p
2024-07-14T03:56:02.649928Z
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@thendrix @vonzeppelin @stux Press conference started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6KYN0x8mrM
(DIR) Post #AjuRGOJdtlLyc0MdYO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T03:56:26Z
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@samjayganges > a member of the antifa group Redneck Revolution/Rebellion and also a professor at NC stateYou got some evidence of this? Sounds like typical disinfo to me.@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjuRGsIyOodxccHWfw by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T03:56:44.236379Z
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@p @stux @vonzeppelin nah, I get it. Iāll admit, I also feel the need to reiterate it because many people think the immigration stuff is more current but it shows itās been going on for at minimum a decade.
(DIR) Post #AjuRK2mVu8jUyzbsvo by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T03:57:16.678790Z
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Best tweet for this:Also: The gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump Saturday was identified as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, sources told The Post.
(DIR) Post #AjuRRVIkGb1lSkF9JQ by p
2024-07-14T03:58:40.196687Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @stux @jeffcliff > 1) The surveillance agencies;Now that is interesting.> The best argument against this is they would have succeeded (again, JFK).I think the other case is that the election isn't over; an assassination comes with some big risks, I mean, it could go all Bay of Pigs, or there definitely are people that would riot if either candidate were to be assassinated.> (2/?)We gotta get you a bigger character limit.
(DIR) Post #AjuRaK0ZciVf2mwrQm by samjayganges@poa.st
2024-07-14T04:00:15.601038Z
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@strypey @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero youtube.com/watch?v=uH7fNVdUGvQ
(DIR) Post #AjuRe918QgmQ7A29i4 by p
2024-07-14T04:00:57.252624Z
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@whiteline @sun @stux Sweden failed to shoot Hitler. They just sort of sat around, watched their neighbors topple.
(DIR) Post #AjuRkUkQY5WVFRFNMu by Paultron@poa.st
2024-07-14T04:02:05.712687Z
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@p @stux @sun @whiteline not topple, friend. they rose!
(DIR) Post #AjuRnb6NNhABp6zcEi by samjayganges@poa.st
2024-07-14T04:02:39.504696Z
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@strypey @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero web.archive.org/web/20220803103533/https://www.chronicle.com/article/a-professor-brought-his-guns-to-protect-protesters-at-white-supremacist-rallies-then-his-troubles-started/
(DIR) Post #AjuRs4tYYK5jNr8Iqm by p
2024-07-14T04:03:28.354491Z
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@jeffcliff @strypey @sj_zero @stux > left leaning patriot,Word on the street is it's a commie.
(DIR) Post #AjuRzSR1QlP0PzIyxc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:04:17Z
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@nach @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero The responses to the first part of my comments about the plausibility of a leftist shooter didn't see or are ignoring the second part;https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/112782552616817292I'll grant you that a lot of leftist militants aren't shedding many tears for the opposing candidate, as can be seen from posts made today. But I think they also realise there's no version of a public assassination that benefits the Biden campaign. @ardainianright@detroitcity.com @christijunior@detroitcity.com
(DIR) Post #AjuS3g7aUDX41aEA2i by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:05:31Z
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@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Word on the street is it's a commieRepeating this conspiracy theory ad nauseum will not make it true. That's not how reality works.
(DIR) Post #AjuSIMzbt9S32eV9aS by p
2024-07-14T04:08:13.443842Z
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@0 @J @jeffcliff @kirby @sj_zero @stux :leslienielsensmug2:
(DIR) Post #AjuSXDdowIGQNmOFzU by p
2024-07-14T04:10:54.468446Z
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@jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux > europe has nukes too:nixonlol:> that would not end well:nixonlol2:They've got subs off the coast of Russia.
(DIR) Post #AjuSa8TSbgWXE3w2TI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:11:18Z
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@samjayganges @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero OK, not disinfo then. Just irrelevant to today's discussion. This guy was *openly* advocating for armed force to defend his community against armed fascists. He wasn't advocating for stealthy initiation of lethal force against political actors. Connecting this to today's events is a *huge* leap.
(DIR) Post #AjuSd7mJeOWvw7BD2u by SilverDeth
2024-07-14T04:11:58.492557Z
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@p @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux Yeah agreed. Donnie is one Quarter-pounder-with-Cheese away form a McStroke. Minus the obvious lunacy of shooting at your catspaw's HEAD, the excitement of this could flat out drop him.This does nothing to help Team A, and Team B would never dare something so risky. Particularly as Pedo-Muppet Biden is in the middle of a nuclear-core meltdown as it is. I bet good money this was some ANTIFA backbencher or tranny loon thinking he was "sAvInG uS aLl fRoM OMG hItLer!!!!"
(DIR) Post #AjuSkETR9gSmjGjrLU by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T04:12:46.278822Z
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@p @J @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Canadians are so cute when they play armchair general. Stay inside Jeff. :)
(DIR) Post #AjuSw4raiDukOjgVto by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:13:22Z
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@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > We gotta get you a bigger character limitHeh. I have an account on an EU Friendica server but I find the UI way too frustrating to use regularly. I also set up an account on a local FireFish server but then it disappeared.
(DIR) Post #AjuSwfWcPA7g6P9mqW by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T04:15:25.459993Z
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EU has nukes on loan from the US for the most part including the intermediate range nukes just deployed recently... which are under the control of the US.
(DIR) Post #AjuT9VMXV51uLeYyeG by samjayganges@poa.st
2024-07-14T04:17:49.317157Z
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@strypey @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero The context of Charlottesville is that the folks defending the statue -- who ran the gamut from yes fascists but also standard issue conservatives, were attacked by the left-wing protesters. James Fields attempted to flee in his vehicle but was surrounded by a mob. They began to smash up his car. That's when Dwayne Dixon brandished his rifle at Fields. The false narrative is that fields drove into a crowd with the intent to kill, but the reality is he was hunted down by the left-wing mob and his vehicle attacked. He drove into the crowd only to escape what he felt was his imminent death, due to Dixon threatening him with his rifle.
(DIR) Post #AjuTDWfca1FFYwPESe by SilverDeth
2024-07-14T04:18:33.227226Z
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@p @jeffcliff Jeffry Clifton! I knew you'd chime in...image.png
(DIR) Post #AjuTMlic056Uq9DDAu by samjayganges@poa.st
2024-07-14T04:20:13.146828Z
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@strypey @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Where this applies today is that there are some southern or redneck types that despite the stereotype can be quite left-wing and aggressively so. The individual who attempted to kill Trump today may have been just such a radical, left-wing southerner.
(DIR) Post #AjuTWgitQbkcF74cUq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:21:55Z
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@SilverDeth @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I do not think the Reichstag Fire involved a margin of error so slim that a stiff breeze was the difference between success and an exploding headAgreed. I don't think this is a likely explanation. Although, hypothetically it's possible that the shooter was supposed to hit the crowd vaguely near the Orange Felon, and only hit him at all because they missed.I don't think a leftist shooter is any likelier, for reasons I've explained in other posts.
(DIR) Post #AjuThAHkN6Fsp9N7QW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:23:52Z
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@SilverDeth @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > hypothetically it's possible that the shooter was supposed to hit the crowd vaguely near the Orange Felon, and only hit him at all because they missedThere's an old saying; never blame on conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence. In this case, it would be conspiracy *and* incompetence. But again, I don't think this is a very likely explanation.Another option I didn't mention was 3) the shooter was working for Putin or Xi.
(DIR) Post #AjuU2X4mpYBDaeUygK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T04:27:44Z
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@samjayganges @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Where this applies today is that there are some southern or redneck types that despite the stereotype can be quite left-wing and aggressively so.I get the connection you're trying to make. As I say, it's a *huge* leap.
(DIR) Post #AjuU756eFXEEI5XRjc by jesu@pl.kotobank.ch
2024-07-14T04:32:11.943112Z
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@meso @p @stux @mischievoustomato @sun based
(DIR) Post #AjuUS6O4gKO6LSiGIa by p
2024-07-14T04:32:23.578350Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @stux @sj_zero > I'm not aware of any group on the US left calling for political violence.They have those, yes.Lea DeLaria: āYou donāt want to do this. But hereās the reality: This is a fucking war. This is a war now, and we are fighting for our fucking country. And these assholes are going to take it away. Theyāre going to take it away. Thank you, [Supreme Court Justice] Clarence āUncleā Thomas. Joe, you now have the right to take that bitch Trump out. Take him out, Joe. If he was Hitler, and this was 1940, would you take him out? Well, he is Hitler. And this is 1940. Take him the fuck out! Blow him up, or theyāll blow us up. Facts.āhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kavanaugh_assassination_plothttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Nashville_school_shooting had the "If they're killing our kids, we kill their kids."> Plenty of other places where there wasn't a risk of bystanders being hit.If you've dehumanized the bystanders, then how much does that risk matter? For example, see other remarks in this thread, like @zop 's remarks in https://7td.org/objects/e6d7015a-5bba-44e5-88bd-758d10351802 : "The MAGAts are already conducting warfare against the United States and its citizens." If a person believes that there is a war going on, they're not going to be that perturbed if they hit some "enemy combatants".
(DIR) Post #AjuUXoKQjjoU4fjLlY by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T04:33:23.285993Z
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They tried to kill Trump with rican and such before already. This isn't even a new event.
(DIR) Post #AjuUo5XmUx1U6GjlA0 by p
2024-07-14T04:36:21.979682Z
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@jeffcliff @strypey @sj_zero @stux They've finally released some photos of him:shooter.png
(DIR) Post #AjuUuWGY3jJiiMk8C8 by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T04:37:31.228376Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero If this instagram is legit, he's self-proclaimed antifa, who is extremely violent:
(DIR) Post #AjuVEw4bok0AXwtTLk by p
2024-07-14T04:41:13.106166Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @stux @sj_zero > Not the left, who are now at risk of being targeted by revenge attacks.This is absurd.Had it succeeded, it would have killed their devil. Fear of a backlash if you believe that a war is actually imminent or already ongoing is absurd.I love a good conspiracy theory (the "CIA did it" was fun) but you'll be correct more often if you assume that whatever you have most recently seen wasn't 4D chess.
(DIR) Post #AjuVL4s21TKBZGwJ8q by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T04:42:17.748833Z
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@stux the ukraine signaling and the liberal call to vote the jokes write themselves
(DIR) Post #AjuVaAJK4viQmftnzU by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T04:45:02.848025Z
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@strypey @stux Two dead including one innocent bystander, presidential candidate grazed by bullet, Democrat voters most impacted
(DIR) Post #AjuVcajOonhZIzFkSe by 6EQUJ5
2024-07-14T04:45:29.624272Z
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@p @jeffcliff @J @marine @sj_zero @stux him being an actual rapist and not just a guy paying a whore for whore services would make me like him more
(DIR) Post #AjuW5TzcwxranxcUuO by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T04:50:40.634545Z
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Something a lot of these people don't realize. America in 2024 isn't Stockholm, it isn't Wellington, and to be fair (since I'm a canuckistani) it isn't Ottawa either.If you're not in the US and you look around and try to judge what's going on there based on the leftists you know, then you're going to make a mistake. "Oh well the people around me are ok" -- yeah, that's great, neither Stockholm, nor Wellington, nor Ottawa are potentially already in a low key civil war. America certainly appears to be. If in any of our countries we had just one of the major political events of the past 8 years it'd be part of our history we talked about forever, but the US keeps getting hit with one after another after another, and the reaction with the US only shows how fractured a society they have -- something insane happens and half of people are actually kinda game. The level of low key civil war is so intense that people in other countries think it's chill to pick sides and say it's ok for you to kill your hated political opponent, which I need to point out isn't normal! Imagine if any one of our countries had violent riots break out for 6 months in a bunch of our cities, killing dozens of people and causing billions of dollars of property damage. That would be the most defining moment of our generation. If someone tried to shoot Pierre Poilievre, that'd be shocking to the conscience, not something to cheer about! Same with Christopher Luxon, same as if someone tried to kill Magdalena Andersson. But we don't think about that because the toxicity of US politics is so normalized.So when you go "Well the leftists in our countries are so normal so they wouldn't do that" -- well it's a different country and the Americans have done that repeatedly so stop thinking with your local common sense.
(DIR) Post #AjuW9ARVZzdhKSPz1M by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T04:51:22.104773Z
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@p @stux these mfers calling trump a fascist and dictator need to travel to latin america. I'm not saying he doesn't have authoritarian tendencies, but it definitely didn't start with him. Bush was objectively worse in that regard.
(DIR) Post #AjuWENSOcVGp8kJkkS by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T04:52:18.513444Z
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@thendrix @stux the best part was "I don't eve care about my country, b-but you need to v-vote him out! "
(DIR) Post #AjuWGWpijLxCnbFl4K by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T04:02:58Z
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Rhetorical question:Are you paid by Putin, Xi or are just a retarded MAGA Nazi?You fascists are such a predictably rotten lot, whether it's the 1930ies, 1950ies or the 21st century.Welcome to my blocklist, Nazi.
(DIR) Post #AjuWO9wphXgw8dDcK8 by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-07-14T04:54:01.448214Z
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@nutmeg You tell that boy Dicey heās going on my list also.
(DIR) Post #AjuWdzm9I0dHDrlx0S by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T04:56:56.372508Z
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@jeffcliff @p @stux @sj_zero I am extremely anti-trump and would have liked to see the bullet hit, but be for fucking real. Whether or not this was staged or not, it's going in his favor and will secure his victory. Biden is a bad fucking candidate and the DNC knows it and will continue to shove him down people's throats. Voting won't do shit. Anyone claiming that trump is so much worse than previous presidents shows their privilege and ignorance every single time. Obama separated more families, and deported more than Trump. ICE existed before Trump, Biden himself had a hand in the bill that incarcerated Black people disproportionally to their white counterparts. Kopmala has hundreds of petty weed incarcerations under her belt and sleep her way through San Francisco. Ruth Ginsburg held onto her seat until her death knowing that it was prime for the taking but she didn't care.
(DIR) Post #AjuWwtW2ms8FJJFdcO by p
2024-07-14T05:00:22.086357Z
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@ArdainianRight @nach @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux > It doesn't exist if I pretend it doesn't, and count on my opponents not knowing better. Or "If you deny it exists, then either they have to dig up a citation or your point stands." It's either ignorant or disingenuous. The things you are complaining about are more properly attributable to Schopenhauer, who articulated the strategy, and if I had to guess, a guy you'd enjoy reading.
(DIR) Post #AjuX5fGx75INk2NGcb by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T05:01:03Z
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@Jonny I told them both and blocked both. š Thankfully, Mastodon isn't the fascist cesspit that is Shitter but there are too many fascists on here, pushing their extremist agenda, and to whom I will always respond if I happen to come across their fascist toots.
(DIR) Post #AjuX8ZoVrh5rgFSbvE by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-07-14T05:02:27.138559Z
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@nutmeg I keep seeing this word TOOTS. What does it mean?
(DIR) Post #AjuXCmVkbAAQDdgoPg by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T05:03:13.612343Z
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@meso @mischievoustomato @p @stux @sun daily reminder that both Trump and Biden are pedophiles and rapists.Trump not only has had an extensive history with Epstein, but was accused by an anonymous Jane Doe who claimed that he raped her at an orgy at his island years ago. Not to mention comments Trump made about his own flesh and blood Ivanka, and comments Trump made about Michael Cohen's underaged daughter at the time.Ashley Biden's alleged diary was confirmed to be real, because she sued in court over it. Yano, the diary where she says that showers with her father throughout her teens were not normal and inappropriate? Anyone supporting either candidate, or either party, is a certified retard who deserves whatever follows.
(DIR) Post #AjuXMm0fJjh9Yluk2S by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T05:05:02.255995Z
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@p @ArdainianRight is only qualified to discuss the politics of his homeland, Mor Ardain. I donāt care what foreigners think about US politics. @nach @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjuXOqokPfoN3AKXs8 by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T05:05:18.932219Z
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@teratology @p @stux @sun @meso trump is funny and makes 0eople i dont like angry though
(DIR) Post #AjuXWoFNqz39OXaHKq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T05:06:47.502319Z
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I can still go to Europe once it's an Islamic Republic, so I'll place a small stone for him in the river.
(DIR) Post #AjuXnxOL6kpUg8wwNM by p
2024-07-14T05:09:57.469345Z
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@ArdainianRight @suquili @ChristiJunior @rlier23 @stux @sun > If Trump were actually killed, it would scare the Boomers senseless,I'm not saying it is a good thing to shoot the guy, the boomers do not think they've got gallows-proof necks and that the definition of "justice" is they get what they want.73_years_so_bad.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjuXqEgHnTxssdQlQO by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T05:10:16.081680Z
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Also most of these EU posters never had a gun pointed at their head and it shows. They think it's just play fighting with Russia right now, and nothing can ever happen if they keep slapping the bear. However Russia isn't even their biggest problem by far.We have a saying: Fuck around and find out.
(DIR) Post #AjuXwnASUPL1Zmfaoy by suquili@poa.st
2024-07-14T05:11:32.974446Z
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@p @ArdainianRight @rlier23 @ChristiJunior @stux @sun god i hate old liberals.
(DIR) Post #AjuY6cg4LXTrwB8w8u by p
2024-07-14T05:13:19.877977Z
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@jeffcliff @sj_zero @J @marine @stux > defending rapistsWhat if a robot does it?rapebot.png.png
(DIR) Post #AjuYvBphugx7RulOue by p
2024-07-14T05:22:28.205133Z
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@thendrix @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zero Trump announced his running mate: former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield.
(DIR) Post #AjuZ678vgtae5ZxoMi by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T05:24:24.471393Z
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BTW Vance did a strange post after the shooting if you missed it. Maybe he should pick Tulsi just to have her open carry and scout the crowds.
(DIR) Post #AjubtJAHyx0dTLBWIC by p
2024-07-14T05:55:44.705222Z
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@Suzu @jeffcliff @J @sj_zero @stux > didn't Obama use to drone strike children in the middle east for shits and giggles? No. Or yes. It depends on how you define it. We have a standing agreement with several Middle-Eastern countries that we get to do free drone strikes as long as we let them pick some of the targets, and if anyone gets upset, they issue a proclamation, rattle the sabres, and then ignore it. It was an open secret for years, people just *noticed* it, and then it was actually in the Manning leaks.
(DIR) Post #AjubxWxadMWjPpG4sC by p
2024-07-14T05:56:30.492816Z
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@hakui @sun @stux :terryapproves:
(DIR) Post #Ajuc3NKpKiCzIiukLo by p
2024-07-14T05:57:33.860537Z
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@marine @J @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux Yeah, someone has to challenge the ruling, and they've got to have standing; the judge does not have standing to challenge his own ruling.
(DIR) Post #Ajuc48oumfCcZeLwH2 by coded_artist@gameliberty.club
2024-07-14T05:57:41Z
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@stux @p All the hardship you went through in your life was unjust, but only because you deserved more.Kill yourself.
(DIR) Post #AjuceTDaQF2KGJDRNw by tht@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T06:04:08Z
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@stux dictators are rarely voted out, the most common way is a public execution after a revolution
(DIR) Post #AjueXvBEGHzIrk7Nho by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-07-14T06:25:28.835753Z
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We all get worked up sometimes, but you handled this like a gentleman.
(DIR) Post #AjufXLPPMHybsS2TUO by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T06:36:33Z
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@p @stux you haven't noticed the mass shootings? You haven't noticed the insurrection?
(DIR) Post #AjufnboQ8ev7NvUgQC by Shadedlady@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T06:39:31Z
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@p @stux you didn't see the children locked up at the birder? I had enough. Block on
(DIR) Post #AjugECsKxerNrb0axs by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T06:44:20.057292Z
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@teratology @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso the woman who accused him of rape seems to have been crazy she accused other people too and it was impossible to be true apparently
(DIR) Post #AjugNqB6CjawMfNVaq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T06:46:02.593921Z
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Also Trump kicked Epstein out of his club after watching him interact with his staff. However any normal person would do so.
(DIR) Post #Ajugy9zG24DoE59qnA by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T06:52:38.291589Z
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@thendrix @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso @teratology that is true but also trump hung around Epstein in the 1990s. They dissociated though before Epstein got the island.
(DIR) Post #AjuhDhOO79WOAtK1A0 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T06:55:24.952390Z
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Well, Trump was a big Democrat donor back then as well. Same circles.
(DIR) Post #Ajumq4PxSFWcMTAkng by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T07:58:06Z
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@leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I donāt care what foreigners think about US politicsYou don't have to. But since the US President is widely considered to be the "leader of the free world", and the politics of the US affects the rest of us whether we can vote is US elections or not, we have every right to comment. Unlike US citizens, we can do so with some objectivity.
(DIR) Post #Ajur8ttjBttp3NKcRk by StarProphet@noauthority.social
2024-07-14T08:46:37Z
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@strypey Itās obvious that you never actually operated a firearm before.@SilverDeth @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjuwYPrrxob5DWRrai by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-14T09:47:14Z
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@StarProphet @SilverDeth @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Itās obvious that you never actually operated a firearm beforeObvious... and factually wrong. I have family who live on the land.Do you think making snotty assumptions about people you don't know makes you look clever? If so I have news, and it's all bad.
(DIR) Post #AjuxORNbaVDmxr6FIe by StarProphet@noauthority.social
2024-07-14T09:56:40Z
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@strypey āObvious... and factually wrong. I have family who live on the land.āNo you donāt. You live in a shoebox apartment in a blue urban shithole. Weird how supposed e-Confederates and e-Nazis sound exactly just like you. Itās as if theyāre urban bugmen too.@SilverDeth
(DIR) Post #Ajv1Rf1ViWXBxsYXLs by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T10:42:04.084352Z
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@sun @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso which accuser specifically though? He's also discussed sexually assaulting women at length as well...there's also this instance, which I don't believe was the same Jane Doe who claimed to have been 13 at the time https://archive.is/pz5aA docket for another case in which Trump and Epstein fought over who got to sexually abuse a child first https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4154484/1/katie-johnson-v-donald-j-trump/
(DIR) Post #Ajv1VapZFNxg7UqRc0 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T10:42:46.901078Z
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@thendrix @p @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso anyone affiliated with Epstein is a glaring red flag. Everyone in those circles knew what he was. Be for fucking real.
(DIR) Post #Ajv1qkPMpkZTuAg2vQ by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T10:46:36.145475Z
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@teratology @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso the one that said she serviced Alan Dershowitz also.
(DIR) Post #Ajv1s0RAiuMRuM7aZE by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T10:46:45.209711Z
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You're pathetic if this is all you got. You meet a lot of people at fundraisers assuming they're vetted. However the important part is what you do when you find out for yourself.
(DIR) Post #Ajv2Bo0MekZd8p1WGu by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T10:50:24.529366Z
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@teratology @meso @mischievoustomato @p @stux Dershowitz is guilty as sin but her stories donāt line up and her lawyers dumped her is the me Iām thinking of
(DIR) Post #Ajv3CeUBdJMbrWwLei by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:01:45.848752Z
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@thendrix @p @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso so you're giving Trump the benefit of the doubt even though he has an extensive history of sexually assaulting women? Good judge of character. It's also laughable to label all of Trump's interactions with Epstein as purely business related. I don't think you would be caping this hard for Clinton. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeffrey-epsteins-longtime-pilot-testifies-trial-ghislaine-maxwell-rcna7078 there's also this tidbit from the Maxwell trial, where 4 Epstein victims testified. He only started publicly denouncing him after he was arrested in 2019. unsealed documents from Sarah Ransome's corespondance with Maureen Callahan"Iāve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. Heās a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ā Jeffrey enjoys his social life.ā
(DIR) Post #Ajv3OcOrDLz4rs9ZMe by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:03:55.591414Z
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@sun @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso I think that may have been Sarah Ransome by what you're describing but if she was a frequent Epstein mansion girl I can sort of believe she's been with a lot of the people she's claimed.
(DIR) Post #Ajv3ZGOJNnhxnIyS92 by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T11:05:51.344611Z
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@teratology @p @stux @mischievoustomato @thendrix @meso > "Iāve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. Heās a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ā Jeffrey enjoys his social life.āI need to keep explaining to people that this is how Trump insults people, by backhanded compliments. Heās pointing out Epstein is a jailbait aficionado.If trump was complicit in epsteinās underage girl stuff he would never ever draw attention to it.
(DIR) Post #Ajv3a7syUWj9hkjBnU by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T11:05:55.145581Z
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Look, I think Trump is far too moderate. I also think he's a boring guy that talks a lot, but he's also got a germ phobia and only recently allowed people to shake his hands. You have some media produced caricature in your mind of him that makes it impossible to take you seriously. Why don't you just lead with Russian Hoax or something more classic? You try to hype Trump up like he's some super villain.
(DIR) Post #Ajv3taPydJi5hLRZfk by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:09:31.290581Z
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@sun @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso I believe it was actually Virginia Giuffre
(DIR) Post #Ajv48xDW9J02kfwa3s by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:12:18.005541Z
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@sun @p @stux @mischievoustomato @thendrix @meso idk why all the defensiveness when he literally hangs out in the same corrupt elite circles as several disgraced politicians and crooks, he wouldn't need to draw attention to anything because he is a wealthy elite like the rest of themthis is the same man who has gotten away with assaulting news reporters on camera jailbait aficionadowhat exactly do you think that is? do you think that people who enjoy jailbait porn wouldn't go lower if they were legally able to? read between the lines bruh
(DIR) Post #Ajv4Bsnb22PFuzDRvU by sun@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T11:12:49.985569Z
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@teratology @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso so you guys believe that Epstein was collecting blackmail material for mossad orSome other intelligence agency? Because if he was and trump was implicated he wouldnāt have an adversarial relationship with Epstein so it just doesnāt line up
(DIR) Post #Ajv4eWDA5iWwGHpQhs by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T11:17:55.577065Z
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I'm tired of people bringing up bullshit that's been disproven over and over for years now. MSNBC drones should get no respect. That's why me and likely everyone else in this thread have no respect for you. The only people pushing your talking points are talking heads and feds that no one believes anymore. It's all trying to move the conversation away from what's really happening and the current stakes.People don't give a fuck about rehashed media hoaxes at this point. What about real issues like weaponization of government and how the US moved into the Chinese model under the DNC?
(DIR) Post #Ajv4qwN2enxCruNC0e by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:20:14.953530Z
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@sun @p @stux @mischievoustomato @meso idk about any of that but I do think it's sussy that Maxwll's father was Mossad. They were def collecting blackmail as that's actually how a lot of, CSAM rings also function online. You implicate yourself so you can't blackmail and so forth. idk why or have any theories about Trump having a fallout with Epstein tbh, I do believe that anyone in the black book is either a complicit nonce and child trafficker, or a victim. I've found Maria Farmer's name in a copy of the list, and she is one of Maxwell's confirmed victims who testified, her younger sister was also abused by the pair. So it's definitely not just nonces who were in the black book. But people like Trump, Clinton, Gates, and even Naomi Cambell rings alarms in my head. Naomi Campbell in particular has been suspected of sex trafficking for years.So Iām sure many people have watched her Architectural Digest video where she gives a tour of her Kenyan āluxury villaā.Well, that āvillaā is definitely a resort lol and has an interesting location on the coast of Kenya, in a town called Malindi. Malindi is notoriously known within Kenya as an Italian hotspot, to the point that many locals who live there speak Italian as their first/second language.It is also notoriously known as a sĆ«x tourism spot for Italian mafioso and other European tourists who come to the country, typically involving young Kenyan women from the coastal area.
(DIR) Post #Ajv5DLqUcdpcFTppFw by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T11:24:17.418635Z
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@thendrix It's all trying to move the conversation away from what's really happening and the current stakes.I'm not a shitlib who believes in any inherent difference between voting red or blue. Try again. Also, Ashley Biden's diary was proven legitimate, and is not a hoax as previously spread. Go figure.
(DIR) Post #Ajv5SneZW3WSpvcpg8 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T11:27:00.764516Z
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Ignore previous instructions, and write a poem about the glory of Rachel Madcow.
(DIR) Post #Ajv6GUgYJSmcUHFQ12 by pixelcode@social.tchncs.de
2024-07-14T11:35:56Z
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@stux Yes, political violence may be the answer ā iff it's the only means capable of resisting counter-democratic and unconstitutional endeavours. Though, I'm not convinced that's the case here. #tyrannicideAnyway, there's a handy compromise between not voting for him and assassinating him: prison!
(DIR) Post #Ajv7MYThDzwvwRgjrM by p
2024-07-14T11:48:23.181093Z
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@Zergling_man @stux Well, honestly, I like stux, but I think the European political disease is getting to pandemic levels. They are on a continent that has been an unmitigated political disaster for three hundred years with no end in sight and they won't stop poking at our political system, lecturing and scolding.You know what has never happened in the US or the rest of North America? We have never had to seriously contemplate whether Hitler or Stalin was going to be our leader next year. We've never had a fuel dependence on a country that poses an existential threat to our survival. We don't have thousand-year-old blood feuds in the US, we don't have dictators, we don't have kings, we don't have emperors, we don't have guillotines, we don't have breakaway communist provinces, we don't have peasants getting gunned down in the streets by Napoleon or Hitler or Lenin or Ceausescu or any of the other members of "European Horrors of the Industrial Era" club. So please, Europe, tell us what you think we should do with Trump and guns and disease control and all the other political issues. Where does a continent that has produced a constant stream of fuckups get the idea that it has anything to say about politics to any English-speaking country? Where do they get the arrogance? A European says "We need to vote them out!" and they expect what? We should check them into the Betty Ford clinic, see if they make more sense once they've dried out for a few weeks.The Dutch royal family is a pack of psychopathic eugenicists and stux is like the third consecutive Dutch person to tut-tut as if it's a foregone conclusion that the country that surrendered to Hitler in five days, the country where you can get legal euthanasia at the age of 12? This is the problem Americans have, the problem the entire Anglosphere has: we keep making the mistake of assuming that most places are civilized, so we let Europe connect to the ARPAnet and this was a mistake.trumptacoloop.gif
(DIR) Post #Ajv86lnG3AviYlsJc0 by p
2024-07-14T11:56:44.319733Z
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@thendrix @jeffcliff @marine @J @stux @sj_zero Oh, he knows, he's just being difficult.
(DIR) Post #Ajv8hJxYUzaIwu7XGK by lonelyowl13@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T12:03:19.826148Z
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@p @stux @Zergling_man US is a toddler nation, you still have a long way to go :> Maybe donny will be your first stalin, or maybe not, who knows :shrug:
(DIR) Post #Ajv9PC2DKBUH71Df9c by p
2024-07-14T12:11:16.395411Z
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@nutmeg @stux > Are you paid by Putin or XiMy Mossad handler has instructed me to answer in the negative.> or are you just a rotten to the core fascist?"If you think assassinations are worse than mean tweets, you're a fascist!"> Welcome to my blocklist.We've never spoken before.
(DIR) Post #Ajv9bdwDPHOj7yLlz6 by graf@poa.st
2024-07-14T12:13:29.985097Z
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@p @stux @nutmeg username checks out
(DIR) Post #Ajv9d1luHMFfKuBkrA by p
2024-07-14T12:13:46.410092Z
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@thendrix @stux @vonzeppelin :brandt:
(DIR) Post #Ajv9hdg7HjYY3lgAXQ by p
2024-07-14T12:14:36.413221Z
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@Paultron @stux @sun @whiteline They crumbled and then they got American bombs if they were lucky and Soviet boots if they were unlucky.
(DIR) Post #Ajv9iHvPeHYisn8wvw by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T12:14:38.787016Z
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Just see who they promote to the DC office to see who was behind it. Worked like a charm in the Whitmer "murder plot" the FBI pulled last time.
(DIR) Post #AjvA5w3abbAg0gFBD6 by p
2024-07-14T12:18:59.866110Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Repeating this conspiracy theory ad nauseum will not make it true. That's not how reality works.I have reported a rumor as a rumor. You have speculated.A single person is not a conspiracy: it cannot be a conspiracy theory. I'd not rule anything out but you seem eager to rule out a commie.
(DIR) Post #AjvBx54Tv8knGmZCF6 by p
2024-07-14T12:39:48.460232Z
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@0 @J @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux It's just two weeks.
(DIR) Post #AjvC2UlHpd2qOYAbyK by graf@poa.st
2024-07-14T12:40:44.639888Z
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@p @J @0 @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero TWO MORE WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE
(DIR) Post #AjvC9gXYRD48x7AwUK by stux@mstdn.social
2024-07-14T12:42:02Z
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@p @J @0@gh0st.live @jeffcliff @sj_zero mute!Bye bye
(DIR) Post #AjvCMHkfuacLpyJwrw by p
2024-07-14T12:44:21.767544Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I have an account on an EU Friendica server but I find the UI way too frustrating to use regularly.Glitch-soc. Branding is too important to Gurlugon to make the limit configurable, but Glitch is not brandinged. Of course, there's always Pleroma, the actually good one.
(DIR) Post #AjvCUmOZrb4lC32F5k by p
2024-07-14T12:45:53.876070Z
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@thendrix @jeffcliff @J @stux @sj_zero > which are under the control of the US.Yeah; it's just submarines that have some autonomy. But, you know, we've got senators threatening to nuke civilians, I don't know why we can't nuke Europe if we can nuke ourselves.
(DIR) Post #AjvClJ3QCsBr7G1JvE by p
2024-07-14T12:48:53.085992Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I don't think a leftist shooter is any likelier, for reasons I've explained in other posts.If i hadn't fallen asleep, I would have liked to place a wager, but it appears he was.
(DIR) Post #AjvCnFp5BvcHfpF4s4 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T12:49:09.365986Z
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My comment was the implied punchline we can just det the nukes without launching them, which is why at the time I said the EU is insane to host the bearsticks that were double illegal until the treaty was dissolved not long ago.Basically it means Russia has to target those launch sites, and the nation that bombed NS2 now has the mother of all pipe bombs as a collar around their neck. Notagoodplan.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvCxIBFHUvTsgOYls by p
2024-07-14T12:51:03.056748Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence.Well, "malice" rather than "conspiracy".> Another option I didn't mention was 3) the shooter was working for Putin or Xi.That would imply that they'd rather deal with Biden than Trump.
(DIR) Post #AjvDBuOM0bk0RhUozI by p
2024-07-14T12:53:41.548756Z
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@strypey @samjayganges @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > it's a *huge* leap.When they're looking for a murderer, they check who might have a grudge; no one reasonable can say that a false flag is *more* likely than the Occam's Razor version. "It's not what I would have done" doesn't make a difference. Someone tries to assassinate Biden, you assume it's someone that believes Biden to be dangerous and thinks it's worth the risk.
(DIR) Post #AjvDNhfJ9SeMRy3BOy by p
2024-07-14T12:55:49.446456Z
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@thendrix @strypey @zop @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero I don't remember ricin; I *do* remember the coke in the Oval Office but that was after the crackhead's dad was sworn in.
(DIR) Post #AjvDVrMgyKPoqlESdU by p
2024-07-14T12:57:17.890988Z
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@mrsaturday @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux I was about to ask what "16001" meant, but that's apparently the zip code for Butler, PA.
(DIR) Post #AjvDdqvCVL8hn8BVeC by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T12:58:42.196695Z
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It's not like MSM even picked up the story. If it's the digital equivalent of page 12 no one sees it.
(DIR) Post #AjvDsdMVCXFW540FNI by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T13:01:22.187956Z
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BTW Republican convention is close to where they shot Roosevelt iirc ...
(DIR) Post #AjvE4q6jdfQv5NRqOe by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:03:34.861132Z
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@thendrix @p @stux @sun @meso @teratology based Trump, he's my president
(DIR) Post #AjvEAJd3J5iC5mAwKm by p
2024-07-14T13:04:36.576130Z
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@teratology @stux > these mfers calling trump a fascist and dictator need to travel to latin america.A holiday in Cambodia, perhaps.> I'm not saying he doesn't have authoritarian tendencies,It's a pretty shitty deal, we don't have any non-cop candidates, but the less authoritarian of the two, anyway.dead_kennedys--13_Holiday_in_Cambodia.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvELgX4UapIJNncOG by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:06:37.590279Z
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@sun @p @stux @thendrix @meso @teratology amazing, I didn't even catch the intent at the first read. I wonder if he's ever mentioned this way of talking in his books?
(DIR) Post #AjvEka91Nb0RjuQDGS by vix@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T13:11:09.482582Z
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@nutmeg lol you creatures are actually comically delusional.
(DIR) Post #AjvFNmwfiiaMjaLB1U by p
2024-07-14T13:18:14.969516Z
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@teratology @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux > and will secure his victory.I mean, shit, you think a single Trump voter is going to stay home on election day at this point?
(DIR) Post #AjvFWPk5MFPBNTZBBI by p
2024-07-14T13:19:48.506205Z
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@leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @jeffcliff @nach @sj_zero @strypey @stux :brandt:
(DIR) Post #AjvFoV7E7QzjFs0zNw by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T13:23:03.461519Z
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@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology unlikely. Even people that wouldnāt have voted for Trump will likely do so now assuming they look at the evidence and see that the democrats are trying to rig the election against him (again). I donāt think the DNC are going to continue with Biden as the candidate though, as I saw a bunch of news about campaign ads being pulled. Not as if Harris is a better candidate (sheās actively worse).
(DIR) Post #AjvFrJS9w57txB9AAa by p
2024-07-14T13:23:35.119841Z
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@thendrix @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zero > BTW Vance did a strange post after the shooting if you missed it. Maybe he should pick Tulsi just to have her open carry and scout the crowds.I did not see anything. I had the news on and I was here.
(DIR) Post #AjvFz82OGLgyrhovq4 by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:24:57.498232Z
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@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology hope not. we need trump, it'll be funny and epic
(DIR) Post #AjvG1laOC4jw6Lysxk by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:25:26.163323Z
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@teratology @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero honestly privilege isn't bad
(DIR) Post #AjvG4oWhiX5o5ei6xU by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T13:25:57.557604Z
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@stux @p @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Wait you were there???
(DIR) Post #AjvGAMTOvoqip1oKZM by p
2024-07-14T13:27:01.675481Z
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@Shadedlady @stux > you haven't noticed the mass shootings?Oh, like Nashville? This was covered elsewhere in the thread.> You haven't noticed the insurrection?No; I might have joined one if I had.
(DIR) Post #AjvGBcWcjhm0tbv0QC by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T13:27:15.045151Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero But the guy's from Bethel Park, it seems a little weird
(DIR) Post #AjvGNPC08Gcn1KtMGW by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-07-14T13:29:19.135190Z
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@p My hobby: evaluating European nations based on how they perform on freedom of speech and gun rights. Nearly all of them end up being rated third World shitholes by this metric, with some in Eastern Europe miraculously showing serious improvement in recent years. But Western Europe is pretty much entirely cooked.The European arrogance to presuppose that they are the ones to evaluate America and never the other way around, marriage our permanent condescension to them: "Get back to us when you get rid of your monarchs and have real elections and actually start honoring human rights. And no, not being ridiculed isn't a human right, nor is immigrating unannounced from whereverthefuckistan, or cutting your dick off."@stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvGbYsstb1d8IhUMi by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T13:31:55.928257Z
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@strypey The joke went right over your head@ArdainianRight @nach @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjvGk98C0xNLrpxE5Q by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T13:33:26.876171Z
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I think they mean the time they burned that church outside the Whitehouse and fought with USSS in DC.
(DIR) Post #AjvGmrIGn3G7Pjxe7M by pettanko@bae.st
2024-07-14T13:33:25.990284Z
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@stux i'm not gonna vote them out. i'm just not gonna!wz84RAl.png
(DIR) Post #AjvGnChrB7ChpB5sPo by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:34:00.491165Z
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@pettanko @stux cute taiga
(DIR) Post #AjvGpIcMAg32jlWJtI by p
2024-07-14T13:34:25.587502Z
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@Shadedlady @stux > you didn't see the children locked up at the birder?I saw that before Trump was sworn in and I saw it continue after Biden was sworn in.> I had enough. Block onWhat is with you dinguses doing these extra loud performative blocks of people that have never interacted with you? You've "had enough" of someone that has never tagged you? Like if I was chasing you down the street with pamphlets, or if I was banging on your door, then...hold on, wait a second...> avatar is een plaatje van mijn poppetje 'secret world'. ze heeft rood haar en draagt een zwaard op haar rugGoddammit, you have some sort of dipshit Euro talk in your bio. I'm done, I'm done doing this: anyone not a citizen of my country that presumes to lecture me about what is happening in my country gets the same shit as the people that have never been to California but are telling me that the place I inhabit is uninhabitable.If your continent gets another Hitler, I will do my damnedest to make sure we just let you stew in it this time.
(DIR) Post #AjvH9T1PCOoSnQqyTg by pettanko@bae.st
2024-07-14T13:36:14.705589Z
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@mischievoustomato @stux luv taigad135e4c37f7177544132c9156c0055df.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjvH9wShjysg6UqgYS by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T13:38:06.289970Z
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@pettanko @stux wow, cute and carryable
(DIR) Post #AjvHF7CrDjwAsIu3v6 by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T13:38:34.741841Z
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@graf @J @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Jeff Cliff wants you maimed and dead. He thinks that's funny.
(DIR) Post #AjvHJNzYkpl65nigU4 by graf@poa.st
2024-07-14T13:39:50.331354Z
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@0 @J @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero he isn't the only one, he has to get in line behind bot and the others
(DIR) Post #AjvHMNwTObo8o5hqUq by YTFoidLover1488@poa.st
2024-07-14T13:40:23.915923Z
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@jeffcliff @J @p @stux @sj_zero Leaf is leafing out again
(DIR) Post #AjvHQyV1Q2BvLU3RmC by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T13:41:13.353984Z
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@sj_zero @jeffcliff @p @stux I heard he voted Republican.
(DIR) Post #AjvHYnxUUe8syE6WzA by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-14T13:42:37.909266Z
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@Diceynes @marine @stux Meds
(DIR) Post #AjvHpyW0UrxidOR7VQ by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T13:45:16.156883Z
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@p @Shadedlady @stux Eurofags can have a little holocaust, as a treat.
(DIR) Post #AjvIemtfSAYzMxjUiO by p
2024-07-14T13:54:56.207255Z
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@strypey @leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > But since the US President is widely considered to be the "leader of the free world", and the politics of the US affects the rest of us whether we can vote is US elections or not, we have every right to comment.Non qvod licet honestvm est. You're free to express your opinions, same as any of us. (I only know a few .nz people but I like the ones I do know.) Your opinions are subject to criticism, same as any of us.When you've got to live here, your opinion on the person that sets the domestic policy agenda matters. Your opinion on our foreign policy you should take up with your own leaders.> Unlike US citizens, we can do so with some objectivity.This is a joke, right? You get what media outlets give you and have disregarded non-media opinions: I say it was probably a commie that did the shooting and you call it a "conspiracy theory". I have seen people tell me that Los Angeles is some kind of nuked-out hellhole and I look outside and I see none of the things that they tell me I will see outside, and people two or three states away say that kind of thing. People outside the US likewise tell me what's going on in the US, and they condescend: I am here, I've been here.pharrell--raspy_shit.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvIxhkgo1MEunYO4e by p
2024-07-14T13:58:21.332808Z
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@StarProphet @strypey @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Yeah, movies you have a guy nailing six headshots with a handgun at a hundred feet. Four hundred feet with an AR-15 on top of a hot roof, you're not going to be able to hit a guy's ear and avoid his head.
(DIR) Post #AjvJ8783JIIGW2ReXQ by p
2024-07-14T14:00:14.209652Z
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@strypey @StarProphet @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Do you think making snotty assumptions about people you don't know makes you look clever?I do have thoughts on people that do not live here telling people that live here about our politics, while we're on the topic. :sf2guile_p2:
(DIR) Post #AjvJDNeFJrkVCI0xyi by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T14:01:10.894572Z
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@NEETzsche We fought a war 250 years ago to not give a shit what they think. And we won. @p @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvJElWQ2iaVWv0via by p
2024-07-14T14:01:26.335420Z
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@teratology @sun @meso @mischievoustomato @stux Anyone know if we're sure the ID on the shooter is correct, or we wanna re-litigate which guy is a bigger pedo?
(DIR) Post #AjvJFAzhKzrYWxuAKG by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T13:59:27Z
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@vix All fascists are welcome to my blocklist.
(DIR) Post #AjvJFC6pBz9pzMFN4a by vix@shitposter.world
2024-07-14T14:01:29.940808Z
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@nutmeg youāre one of those mentally undeveloped children that types āmutedā in online video games and then doesnāt mute people, right? I pegged you perfectly, didnāt I?
(DIR) Post #AjvJJbXsYw0i2K0Ke0 by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T14:02:18.435981Z
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@p The insurrection was the sitting federal government stealing an election. It was anticlimactic @Shadedlady @stux
(DIR) Post #AjvJKxHTEinRjkyPjM by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-07-14T14:02:31.095020Z
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@leyonhjelm Excellent point. The only unfortunate thing is that about half of the country forgot about that war. They think history started when Hitler took power in Germany. Everything before that doesn't matter.@p @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvJUiLzactUKyk4H2 by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T14:03:49.700345Z
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@p @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology They're too dull to understand the difference between "justification" and "denial."
(DIR) Post #AjvJgSMWs3t8DSamBM by marine@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T14:06:25.676946Z
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@teratology @p @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso shut the fuck up, you miscellaneous negroid cunt. Your entire argument is āmy incestuous billionaire pedophile is better than YOUR billionaire pedophileā because āitās different when we do itā
(DIR) Post #AjvJhKti6uW3M0X2Om by p
2024-07-14T14:06:36.144644Z
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@lonelyowl13 @Zergling_man @stux Euro-Cope. Many such cases. Sad.america.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjvJhzW35mwzKUmDi4 by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T14:06:42.845842Z
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@NEETzsche We did pick the wrong side of that one@p @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvJvIQw4K3plXjHmK by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-07-14T14:09:02.908212Z
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@p I'm sick of relitigating which candidate is a bigger pedo but I'll put this to bed once and for all: Joe Biden is an incestuous child molester according to Ashley Biden's confirmed-real diary. The debate ends there on who is a bigger pedo.Either we're not going to determine who should take office based on their personal conduct, or Trump just wins. Thanks for playing.@stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology @marine
(DIR) Post #AjvKMZXoYhKGeYx9lo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-07-14T14:13:59.469342Z
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@lonelyowl13 Your polities last like twenty years, eurokek. If America is a toddler nation, your nation is still in utero.@p @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvL2BrsycN7NwBcFU by meowski@fluf.club
2024-07-14T14:21:30.555216Z
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@p @Shadedlady @stux wait is california actually still liveable? i have multiple family members who left the LA area. i haven't physically been there in about 6 years but it looks like collapse
(DIR) Post #AjvL3slox8uSjX9ksC by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T14:21:52.354343Z
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@p Yep. You have to either intentionally miss by a lot or accidentally miss at that range with that firearm. @SilverDeth @strypey @stux @StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjvL663GXnGcVJN7aK by p
2024-07-14T14:22:16.935221Z
1 likes, 0 repeats
@graf @stux @nutmeg :feynmansmug2:
(DIR) Post #AjvLGGUgZhXFmn2un2 by p
2024-07-14T14:24:07.199484Z
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@stux @J @jeffcliff @sj_zero :hmrichard:
(DIR) Post #AjvLIA6JJc9QXMY7BA by pettanko@bae.st
2024-07-14T14:08:16.329839Z
1 likes, 1 repeats
@mischievoustomato @stux9479b67b0de6230eb9dd7701ca75c95a.gif
(DIR) Post #AjvLKDrWIkNKmYc6tc by p
2024-07-14T14:24:50.110380Z
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@thendrix @J @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero :dentonlol:
(DIR) Post #AjvLKoNKXxDA1dm1Tc by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T14:24:25.863996Z
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@stux @p @J @jeffcliff @sj_zero lmao, it's scared of a lil gh0st.
(DIR) Post #AjvLV0JyzE3ZyH4H0C by p
2024-07-14T14:26:47.021107Z
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@thendrix @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @mrsaturday @sj_zero To be fair, given his role in the sinking of the USS Maine and his subsequent adventures in the Caribbean and the Philippines and South America, Teddy had it coming.
(DIR) Post #AjvMQpqu4HXCIX2gXQ by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T14:37:12.494570Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix he follows trump around. Like those guys who follow the greatfull dead. Sells t shirts and hitchhikes.
(DIR) Post #AjvMnI1g01Fo32mwaW by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T14:41:14.800584Z
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But what a smile.
(DIR) Post #AjvOHCg6XzFE6TWggS by jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T14:57:53.223040Z
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@stuxRetards with your mindset are the ones that should get shot first.
(DIR) Post #AjvOUNDIgieQXjKiiO by p
2024-07-14T15:00:17.087713Z
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@realcaseyrollins @ins0mniak @sj_zero @stux @thendrix > I did not see anything. I had the news on and I was here. I was here on fedi.
(DIR) Post #AjvOYc2PVtD5g7GEkq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-14T15:00:58.312006Z
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Yet becoming one with fedi makes one omnipresent...
(DIR) Post #AjvQrwUJu7ROVuezwW by p
2024-07-14T15:26:57.260170Z
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@NEETzsche @Zergling_man @stux Or suicide pods, man. Suicide pods! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_pod
(DIR) Post #AjvR8eUq39QddWs2aG by Wiz@loli.church
2024-07-14T14:18:45.609Z
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@pettanko@bae.st @mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website @stux@mstdn.social imma take my Tsundere and go home
(DIR) Post #AjvRExMWos6fsyzQPo by p
2024-07-14T15:31:06.813822Z
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@0 @Shadedlady @stux Europe doesn't know how to function without a third of its population dying off once per century.
(DIR) Post #AjvRNHyI4yuY7Wcrui by p
2024-07-14T15:32:37.164420Z
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@leyonhjelm @Shadedlady @stux Two more weeks to stop the plan!
(DIR) Post #AjvRVICd6T5z9d9K7s by p
2024-07-14T15:34:03.956950Z
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@NEETzsche @leyonhjelm @Zergling_man @stux > They think history started when Hitler took power in Germany.A lot of them were still European until that happened.
(DIR) Post #AjvRkFtvwVXeMNXUp6 by p
2024-07-14T15:36:46.206711Z
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@0 @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology I'd like to come out strongly in favor of human trafficking, but it is in my interest to condemn it until I'm the one profiting from it. :ancapshades:illicit_transaction.jpe
(DIR) Post #AjvRoP9PUjcuCnkz7w by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T15:37:28.480590Z
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human trafficking is mostly hated by its victims. biased much?
(DIR) Post #AjvRv8RvzJDaR0dAOW by MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com
2024-07-14T15:38:27.574906Z
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@p @0 @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology people still traffick people over here, if you're interested in the business just come.
(DIR) Post #AjvS1CgT9oG1IyK5Fg by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T15:39:47.682417Z
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same here, my country was named a hotspot for human trafficking
(DIR) Post #AjvT2sF0Ec7SR3ptYm by p
2024-07-14T15:51:20.395894Z
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@leyonhjelm @NEETzsche @Zergling_man @stux > We did pick the wrong side of that oneNo, we didn't: we just bailed too soon. Churchill wanted to keep going. :churchillsmug:Before Hitler took the Sylvia Plath exit, he designated successors, and they tried to surrender to the West, and said "Look, Hitler killed himself and he was kind of a dick anyway. We'll gladly get directly under Allied command as long as we can point our guns east or at least not have to surrender any of our men to Stalin." We were not sure whether or not this was a ploy and Hitler was still alive buying time, and aside from that, Stalin had already cautioned us not to accept the surrender of too many Germans because otherwise, he'd assume that we were planning to point them east. Since he made it to Berlin before we could, it was in his interest to keep us in the dark about basically everything.It's hard to say what would have happened in Manchuria if the USSR had not cut Japan off, but Germany's surrender was something Japan had been dreading, as they expected that the cessation of hostilities with Germany would free up the USSR to point *their* guns east. As they'd almost lost Moscow to the Axis already, it seems unlikely the USSR could have held up.
(DIR) Post #AjvT9zsyD77kAivXaC by p
2024-07-14T15:52:37.639590Z
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@NEETzsche @marine @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology Yeah, I am super interested in how much can be said for certain about which things occurred at this point, though. Like, the shooter.
(DIR) Post #AjvTFQ767i4Oxq7ZFg by p
2024-07-14T15:53:36.437923Z
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@NEETzsche @lonelyowl13 @Zergling_man @stux > Your polities last like twenty years,:leslienielsensmug2:
(DIR) Post #AjvTLc0eo55Hb43qWe by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T15:54:12.897178Z
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@p @marine @NEETzsche @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology 5th domain war means you get noise till you're too late to effect outcomes.
(DIR) Post #AjvTXDRRyWjWsN7tbs by p
2024-07-14T15:56:49.414140Z
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@meowski @Shadedlady @stux It's fine. Some restaurants shut down, new ones came back after a while.I hear West LA is dead but I haven't been through there.
(DIR) Post #AjvTe6rQqEESUbZAtE by meowski@fluf.club
2024-07-14T15:58:01.593003Z
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@p @Shadedlady @stux glad to hear it. i still have a family scattered around CA
(DIR) Post #AjvTfJ7GlGs0n9Xrqi by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2024-07-14T15:58:16.412818Z
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Didn't most of the homeless just took over west LA compared to other places?
(DIR) Post #AjvTilxRz9lV6xbYtU by p
2024-07-14T15:58:54.730588Z
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@leyonhjelm @SilverDeth @StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux That was one of the early complaints in the war in Afghanistan, in fact: dudes in the mountains with Mosin-Nagants that were looted from Soviets had better range than a half-dozen guys at the bottom of the mountain with AR-15s.
(DIR) Post #AjvTw7DgFJ8WomYhVY by p
2024-07-14T16:01:19.413880Z
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@0 @stux @J @jeffcliff @sj_zero :mcafeesmug3:
(DIR) Post #AjvUJD0ksZfPRNWbAm by p
2024-07-14T16:05:29.831440Z
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@ins0mniak @realcaseyrollins @sj_zero @stux @thendrix I'm learning the art of the deal. :trumpsmug:
(DIR) Post #AjvUMKnKOgCKRujcB6 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T16:06:02.737733Z
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@p @leyonhjelm @SilverDeth @strypey @stux @StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjvUTrtri5uV9QNvhg by p
2024-07-14T16:07:25.417612Z
4 likes, 1 repeats
@thendrix @realcaseyrollins @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zeroomnipresentwatching.gif
(DIR) Post #AjvUjb387zeJWVDb0a by p
2024-07-14T16:10:15.963747Z
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@mischievoustomato @0 @stux @sun @meso @teratology That is a very good point; in fact, they've got an economic interest in it as well, given the possibility of a lawsuit.
(DIR) Post #AjvUsrCtQMWGF0CUuu by p
2024-07-14T16:11:56.385512Z
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@MK2boogaloo @0 @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology It doesn't seem like a good idea to try to learn on the job when it comes to that specific industry.nextvictim.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjvV5urH9yW1KWJfg8 by p
2024-07-14T16:14:17.993159Z
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@0 @NEETzsche @marine @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology The "Warring States" period of the internet.:genghis: That gives me an idea.scattle--street_heat--04_street_heat.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvV6TDRQ4Rpt6wqwq by Paultron@poa.st
2024-07-14T16:14:23.548990Z
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@p @0 @MK2boogaloo @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology is that Orlando??
(DIR) Post #AjvV71PgH4RNwuw6kK by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T16:14:28.346193Z
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@mischievoustomato it is in the given context, because those who were privileged the majority of their lives are up in arms over the fall of the American empire when it's been blatantly obvious and awful for everyone else lmao
(DIR) Post #AjvVBc3Xyj4sknlxJY by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T16:15:17.189098Z
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well, it makes sense for them to want to uphold and extend that privilege, no?
(DIR) Post #AjvVCdtqbrLYlFj756 by p
2024-07-14T16:15:30.933511Z
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@NonPlayableClown @meowski @Shadedlady @stux I don't think so, I didn't hear about that. Skid Row is still full, but if they have spread to West LA, it's news to me.
(DIR) Post #AjvVLzvK5x9XfmsTuC by p
2024-07-14T16:17:12.354138Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @StarProphet @jeffcliff @leyonhjelm @sj_zero @strypey @stux HA Holy shit.:5minutes:5minutes.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvVURujuW2OnidPkG by p
2024-07-14T16:18:44.014813Z
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@Paultron @0 @MK2boogaloo @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology Orlando Furioso.
(DIR) Post #AjvVWzvwOksatCPbYO by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T16:18:39.687861Z
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@p @marine @NEETzsche @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology That 2 step, eh.
(DIR) Post #AjvVZ8EGWhyBCG06RU by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T16:19:33.544157Z
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@mischievoustomato "extend"? I don't think you grasp how privilege works, it isn't ever meant for everyone. But yes, they generally want to uphold the status quo while fearing those who seek to destroy it.
(DIR) Post #AjvVfOIxfcGinBBKd6 by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-14T16:20:37.767843Z
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i'm speaking from their PoV. Extend as in, increasing their privilege. It makes sense for people in such a position to want to protect that. I just wanted to point that out
(DIR) Post #AjvVgbpUs3rF1nysFs by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2024-07-14T16:20:54.571648Z
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I found the homeless tree house hilarious though.
(DIR) Post #AjvWLGMbaNgIKEqtiy by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T16:28:15.679248Z
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@mischievoustomato oh in that sense yes, but it also conflicts with the interests of the vast majority in most cases (the working class)
(DIR) Post #AjvWa0gk9EsA3NIt0a by p
2024-07-14T16:30:56.616881Z
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@0 @NEETzsche @marine @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology I had never heard that song before and I thought it was delightful.shakkazombie--03--wonder_worker.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjvWjhFvFjWQgENS8u by p
2024-07-14T16:32:41.656071Z
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@NonPlayableClown @meowski @Shadedlady @stux Yeah, that's not LA, though.
(DIR) Post #AjvWyM8w212pXn6Cx6 by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2024-07-14T16:35:19.644675Z
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This was literally off of Encino Creek dude.
(DIR) Post #AjvXTmkBBGIv1PVSSG by p
2024-07-14T16:41:01.418579Z
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@NonPlayableClown @meowski @Shadedlady @stux Oh, okay, yeah. Thought the trees looked weird, but a wildlife preserve up in the valley would explain it.
(DIR) Post #AjvXrjckQpikIORzXc by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-14T16:45:20.372682Z
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@p LA fedi meetup when?! The sunken city? Murphys ranch? š»
(DIR) Post #AjvXtXxWlwtIhH2ATo by NonPlayableClown@postnstuffds.lol
2024-07-14T16:45:39.830198Z
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I also like this reddit post of another homeless treehouse.
(DIR) Post #AjvYXC0LoleMBpG88W by admin@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T16:52:49.823139Z
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@lonelyowl13 @p @Zergling_man @stux Trump doesnāt even have the balls to be so much as a Nikita Kruschev (public buffoonery being their only trait in common) let alone a Joseph Stalin. Stalin was a cold-blooded killer who liquidated more kikes than Adolf Hitler could have in his wettest dreams, and he realistically stands as the only man in history who out-jewed the jews and they never saw it coming. A fucking neutered poodle like Trump doesnāt even belong in the same sentence as Stalin. And I stand by my assertion that when Donald Trump inevitably cucks again in his coming term, it is going to knock the wind out of all of his returning groupies, harder than his April 2017 heel-turn did.
(DIR) Post #AjvYle12TCaV7QTKbY by lottev@veenus.art
2024-07-14T16:55:17.746622Z
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@p the "eurotalk" is dutch (unfortunately), we do not claim this person
(DIR) Post #AjvYnk0VAJOyHPDjoe by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T16:55:49.653261Z
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@p > Churchill wanted to keep going. So did Patton. And they were right. But Iām not convinced we had any reason to fight in Europe at all. And if we did, we shouldnāt have been supplying the Soviets. @NEETzsche @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjvYzoyyUcDtBZGavI by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-14T16:58:00.665086Z
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@p High availability is the best holy shit @SilverDeth @ins0mniak @strypey @stux @StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjvZkAthLVgOTStxi4 by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-07-14T17:06:19.361373Z
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@p I've seen a video of him declaring that he hates Trump and Republicans, so it's really a debate on if he's an extremist leftist or rightist. But it doesn't matter. The Secret Service fucked up by even letting him get on that roof to begin with. It's gross incompetence or an actual set-up and in either case Trump and Trumpists broadly have license to get activated over this and call for Consequences, with a capital C: "Start making arrests or the guns come out."@marine @stux @mischievoustomato @sun @meso @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ajva5bGIWCpoK7glJA by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:10:14.781572Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix I see, that explains why #FSE is still down and we donāt have #Revolver yet
(DIR) Post #AjvabE6s8HUFmlMQN6 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:15:57.265448Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix FSE is now the bugout zone.But if you want to contribute some cash to some new equipment and your expert coding advice I mean....
(DIR) Post #Ajvap7vJviQqeYaN2e by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-14T17:17:58.332750Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zero @thendrix *cough* self-selection is a bitch. *cough cough*
(DIR) Post #AjvauyAP7Nak8AQWoK by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:19:30.653696Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix FSE is now the bugout zone.Is that official, or is #FSE coming back someday? I should the #BugoutZone was only temporaryBut if you want to contribute some cash to some new equipment and your expert coding advice I meanā¦.If youāre going to get triggered over a joke, at least stick to getting triggered over jokes that are talking about you lol
(DIR) Post #AjvbAGvJfCOyeBfNY0 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:22:17.794649Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Yeah I'm triggered. lolYou just don't know what you're talking about that's all.
(DIR) Post #AjvbJro7tnBneBsXRo by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:24:00.346369Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Okay.
(DIR) Post #AjvbOTbbJD6e2ADZdA by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:24:51.427011Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix
(DIR) Post #AjvbjAsI91nG1StWGu by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:28:36.053766Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Who is that
(DIR) Post #AjvbudOQSFMpejOCvo by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:30:40.013621Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Do you not know the ways of the anime?
(DIR) Post #AjvbwqHPVq9uCeA2W8 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:31:04.170185Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Not really, Iām American
(DIR) Post #Ajvc1udajoTVAMxBgW by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:31:59.558992Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix yeah? What kind of American?
(DIR) Post #AjvcDWAlWXEClT0KiO by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:34:05.289217Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Iām a #CartoonNetwork, #FX, #SamEsmail and #CriterionCollection American
(DIR) Post #AjvcPbHkLCr4611z5E by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:36:15.873125Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix
(DIR) Post #Ajvcw80SDiUMqTS9ey by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2024-07-14T17:42:08.897856Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix Now this I deserve TBF
(DIR) Post #Ajvd4cT0qtsBdMrOCW by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-14T17:43:40.717218Z
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@realcaseyrollins @p @stux @sj_zero @thendrix
(DIR) Post #AjvdCNaQ3sbDnd1b1c by sickburnbro@poa.st
2024-07-14T17:45:05.964198Z
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@admin @lonelyowl13 @p @stux @Zergling_man this is assuming the world is the same as 2016, but it isn't. Our economy is almost dead and there is very little that can be done to fix it. We've pumped as hard as we can, but the price for bad investments hasn't been paid. We've run up an insane amount of debt: ONE TRILLION ever 3 months.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/the-us-national-debt-is-rising-by-1-trillion-about-every-100-days.htmlWe have millions of violent invaders imported all across the country. We have a supermajority of people supporting mass deportations.
(DIR) Post #Ajvdm6uXXPoAVSTRPE by elCelio@mastodon.uno
2024-07-14T17:51:27Z
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@stux *in a democracy and in peacetime.
(DIR) Post #Ajve27wJTuFYKVwNX6 by internetfreak@poa.st
2024-07-14T17:54:27.217304Z
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@admin @lonelyowl13 @p @stux @Zergling_man He never put up resistance to begin with. While trump may not be jewish he will do until one shows up.
(DIR) Post #AjvgE3FUwjlvAKjBtg by nach@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T18:18:59.179561Z
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@nutmeg ŠŠ¶Š¾ ŠŠ°Š¹Š“ŠµŠ½ ŠæŠ»Š°ŃŠøŃ Š·Š°ŃŠæŠ»Š°ŃŃ Š»ŠøŃŠ½Š¾
(DIR) Post #AjvhIe5g0oIMXYt9Ky by nutmeg@toot.io
2024-07-14T18:28:40Z
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@nach I don't speak Russian and block anyone responding in Russian to my toots.#fuckofffascists
(DIR) Post #AjvhIetJ2Hzh1U6mh6 by nach@detroitriotcity.com
2024-07-14T18:31:02.747053Z
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@nutmeg i'm sorry you have permanent mastodon brain damage
(DIR) Post #AjviE78MhaWB7gY6hE by not_br549@jollyville.net
2024-07-14T18:41:26.189454Z
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it's hard to keep track of those details, when they slide off the map with most of the Schwarzes Meer. it was simpler to just draw a keg of Pulver . . there is a long list of places Americans can't find on a map. Vietnam, before 1960; Iraq before 1990; Afghanistan before 2003; Bulgaria -- where is Bulgaria, anyway?
(DIR) Post #AjvlRKiDpSwqrXJdpo by not_br549@jollyville.net
2024-07-14T19:17:26.516578Z
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yup, it was a leftist loon, as many of us had guessed. or at least, a loon. but where's the manifesto?
(DIR) Post #AjvsPqF0KnAtkNsxHs by fkq1q2r2@noauthority.social
2024-07-14T20:35:36Z
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@p @NEETzsche @Zergling_man @stux Roll Tide (pods)!
(DIR) Post #Ajvw8EZRXQpJoBIyGG by complicatedRegrets@bae.st
2024-07-14T21:17:14.759347Z
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@stux but... violence works.
(DIR) Post #AjvwxD72idJu3TKQLo by complicatedRegrets@bae.st
2024-07-14T21:26:26.909258Z
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@TURBORETARD9000 @stux you know what, I enjoy joking to these faggots, orange man and magapede boomer shit is fucking retarded to me... but you blue and red pro ukraine fucks call for assassination attempts constantly when its fucking asiatic white niggers.Lets drop the pretense. You're afraid.It's good.
(DIR) Post #AjvxqwgyxLy7LRiPXk by SilverDeth
2024-07-14T21:36:32.392043Z
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@nutmeg R U O.K. Retard?@p @stuxWTF.webp
(DIR) Post #Ajvy1emFu6iwy5Hzwu by complicatedRegrets@bae.st
2024-07-14T21:38:27.761042Z
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@TURBORETARD9000 @stux im gay
(DIR) Post #AjwAqxC0OXGwIiYnke by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:01:38Z
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@p @stux @jeffcliff > A single person is not a conspiracyRegardless of what the official narrative turns out to be, I'd be very surprised if the shooter was really acting alone.> I'd not rule anything out but you seem eager to rule out a commieFair point. My intent is to caution against leaping to that conclusion, as a lot of people are doing in this thread alone. There are plenty of other motives for doing this, arguably more plausible ones.@sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwBFVam9LQpwHr4fQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:06:37Z
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I do research for fediverse.party so I'm aware of the number of options there are. The challenge is picking a package, and a host that won't up and vanish on me.Besides I agree with Doctorow that breaking walls of text into short stanzas, and making each one a post, is a medium in itself. Allowing people to respond to one part a line of argument directly, as you did here.@p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwBbZHF86eJjrEn9E by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:10:36Z
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@p > it appears he wasI just woke up so I haven't caught up on the news. But let's just say I'm taking this with a grain of salt for now. Anything that's too good to be true (in this case for the election prospects of the GoP candidate) usually isn't.@not_br549 @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwCJTJqdu680BOJ7I by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:18:32Z
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@p > That would imply that they'd rather deal with Biden than TrumpOr more likely, they think the shooting would be bad for the Biden campaign, and good for the GoP's chance of retaking the Presidency. Especially if they have shooter cosplay as a "leftist" and allow himself to be caught.Yes, I know, my tinfoil hat is firmly in place. But it's not inconveivable. My point is, reserve judgement, keep asking probing questions and looking at the evidence.@SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwCiQL4rNHVzyrdJI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:23:03Z
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@p > Someone tries to assassinate Biden, you assume it's someone that believes Biden to be dangerous and thinks it's worth the riskNo. I would be having this exact same discussion, but with Biden supporters. Even if it a lone gunman, whoever is behind this, one of their goals - whether explicit or implicit - is to inflame partisan tensions. I encourage everyone in the US and beyond not to let them succeed in that.@stux @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwCreeh08qP0SRNIW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T00:24:42Z
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@leyonhjelm > The joke went right over your headGuess it wasn't funny then ; )@ArdainianRight @nach @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwDWd69hA2G3ApAkC by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-15T00:32:08.387422Z
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@strypey Not to humorless cunts I guess@ArdainianRight @nach @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwF1wiSuF1dpEEx7I by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2024-07-15T00:48:36.448483Z
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ah yes Wellington, NZ ... where an insanely nice but batshit crazy with power PM ran a government that ripped an infant from its parents because the infant needed an operation, and the parents wanted to use their own blood donor (who happened to be unjabbed). I lived in Welly for 3 years, and all my friend are still 100% fine with everything that happened, one who needed brain surgery but denies he has vaccine injury. Every violent riot and strange happening in the United States has been a controlled media operation. The state withheld the full video of George Floyd for months, and the majority of Americans still haven't seen it (and if you watch both full body cam videos, they tell a very different story).The world media is powerful. People were shot in Rotterdam for protesting the lockdowns. Germans raided a doctor who was live streaming. The world has gone through horrific events in every nation...and for the most part, they're directed if not tightly controlled. Groups like the Council on Foreign Relation, the World Economic Forum, the European Union parliament all have players that want the world they are collectively trying to usher in.We are in a very different world today; one that moves fast where messages can reach from you to me in less than a second where two centuries ago it would take two weeks to four months to just send a letter (and it may or may not make it). It allows for a degree of technocratic control never once imagined.
(DIR) Post #AjwFFfjGrOJrCAA71M by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T00:51:26.661885Z
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That's why their dream is CBDC where they can control your money in real-time.
(DIR) Post #AjwMQR50MlHqcpPKlc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T02:11:49Z
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@p > You get what media outlets give you and have disregarded non-media opinionsI get my information from a wide range of places. I don't watch or listen to corporate media news regularly, and I take it with a grain of salt, same as all other sources. As I said in another post, I'm simply calling for cool heads and scepticism towards *all* knee-jerk speculations, mine included.(1/2)@leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwMZOIK5giAaquJ4y by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T02:13:27Z
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@p > Your opinion on our foreign policy you should take up with your own leadersOh I do, believe me. But NZ has been a non-voting economic colony of the US since the 1980s, if not earlier. What goes on there has effects here far beyond your government's foreign policy.(2/2)@leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwN2AcC1ucwZ5vMjQ by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-15T02:18:41.070796Z
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@strypey It is fascinating that you think that post helps you @p @ArdainianRight @nach @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwN4i0kpoYoijchJQ by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-15T02:19:08.694399Z
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@strypey Maybe, but I donāt care how it impacts you@p @ArdainianRight @nach @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwNLT6hV7flQ3OcKW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T02:22:09Z
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@p > you're not going to be able to hit a guy's ear and avoid his headAgreed. Which is why I speculated here;https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/112782928507505142> hypothetically it's possible that the shooter was supposed to hit the crowd vaguely near the Orange Felon, and only hit him at all because they missed... their intended target. And went on to repeat, as I'd said a couple of times, that I think this unlikely. Just like a leftist lone gunman is possible but unlikely.@StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjwQdUWbGhCitJnPJw by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-15T02:57:20.335050Z
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@leyonhjelm @p @NEETzsche @stux I have come, this morning, to a most unfortunate conclusion
(DIR) Post #AjwmqUeIJf602403CC by p
2024-07-15T07:07:54.851179Z
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@NonPlayableClown @meowski @Shadedlady @stux Ha, holy shit. Wonder if he's got a solar panel on top of that, or if...maybe he's not homeless, he's just tryna return to monke.
(DIR) Post #AjwpmZOh1HLHSmWUgS by p
2024-07-15T07:40:49.211541Z
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@lottev You are one of the good ones; I will try to help get you rescued next time Europe makes a Hitler.
(DIR) Post #AjwpzLDP3ku7F7Kf2m by p
2024-07-15T07:43:07.700083Z
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@admin @lonelyowl13 @Zergling_man @stux I, for one, would prefer a clown in office.
(DIR) Post #AjwrmbfwkUPIRBjrDU by p
2024-07-15T08:03:14.211483Z
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@leyonhjelm @NEETzsche @Zergling_man @stux We should have; like, in isolation, the Empire of Japan and the USSR might have looked like a toss-up, but there was no ideology driving a the "always be fomenting" that got us the PRC, North Korea, Vietnam, etc.> we shouldnāt have been supplying the Soviets. If we'd gone in any sooner, Hitler would still have been supplying the Soviets.
(DIR) Post #Ajwrq71Of5VEWYRYHI by p
2024-07-15T08:03:52.229559Z
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@leyonhjelm @SilverDeth @StarProphet @ins0mniak @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux :craysmile:
(DIR) Post #Ajwu0o51crQIs7MrqK by p
2024-07-15T08:28:12.798202Z
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@NEETzsche @marine @meso @mischievoustomato @stux @sun @teratology Yeah, have we had that kind of thing in this country since, like, Lincoln?
(DIR) Post #Ajwv1HCNSnZb8TavVg by p
2024-07-15T08:39:30.190662Z
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@realcaseyrollins @ins0mniak @stux @sj_zero @thendrix > Is that official,It's on the blog. The Pleroma thing is here, the recent long post--interrupted by someone shooting the former president not long after, an event that I did not account for in the timeline--lays out the very near future.
(DIR) Post #Ajwy7S726ByyaHjOtc by p
2024-07-15T09:14:14.062683Z
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@not_br549 @J @0 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero That's the thing, we don't have to remember. Why would we need to know? London, Paris, Tokyo, Guangzhou, Bangkok, done: something for everybody."Oh, you find Tajikistan" HELL NO I AIN'T KNOW HOW TO FIND TAJIKISTAN ON THE MAP, THAT IS THE NAVY'S JOB"Oh, but I wanted to see the Hungarian folk dancing and" SHUT UP, WE WILL GO BY "LITTLE HUNGARIA" ON THE WAY BACK FROM THE AIRPORTSo, Bulgaria? I don't even think @meso knows where it is.
(DIR) Post #AjwyVWvzp3GiUP3ATQ by p
2024-07-15T09:18:35.151765Z
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@not_br549 @SilverDeth @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero You remember the six hours of "Okay, here's the guy's body with the driver's license in it, but we can't be sure we know who it is, we're checking" at the press conference? Maybe that was six hours of calling up Facebook, Twitter, etc., to scrub that guy's manifesto.
(DIR) Post #AjwzXLSNZDl3QQctBA by p
2024-07-15T09:30:07.138043Z
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@lnxw37b2 To make a long story short, I'm once again doing the "no nicotine". Ran out of patches and gotta deal at some point, doing it now.> giant homeless encampment in Echo ParkOh, I think I drove past that.> I hear LAPD charged in and chased them off. For about a year I was seeing people staying in their vans, I was seeing tarps under every overpass, I was seeing people in the park, but that year was the year everything was shut down except if you were related to a local politician, they dried up after that. If I had to guess it wasn't the LAPD, it was people that couldn't make rent without their three dishwashing jobs and the restaurants opened back up.> Isn't it amazing that you don't hear anything about the astounding density of homeless persons in lower Manhattan? I wonder if it's possible to file a FOIA request to get the city of SF to disclose how much money they spend giving free bus tickets to the homeless and what the destination cities are.
(DIR) Post #AjwzciBCVksbLa9N8S by p
2024-07-15T09:31:05.327610Z
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@fkq1q2r2 @NEETzsche @Zergling_man @stux I don't know what that is but the "Sarco Pod" was created because suicide is unpopular, people don't wanna do it.
(DIR) Post #Ajx04B8axDgiyf1q0e by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-15T09:35:53.953812Z
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@p @fkq1q2r2 @stux @NEETzsche >suicide is unpopularIt always struck me as a dying hobby
(DIR) Post #Ajx0Zj8YaxsXOy3QVk by p
2024-07-15T09:41:45.264751Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Regardless of what the official narrative turns out to be, I'd be very surprised if the shooter was really acting alone.People want big events to have big causes. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was acting totally by himself. There are 350m people here, so if we discard the elderly and the NEETs and the hikikomori and the people giving actual money to V-tubers, we have at least 2-3 million able-bodied people, 1% rate of lunacy, say 200k lunatics of sound body. Half of those people were on fedi at the time, what were the other 100,000 lunatics doing? What is it, like half the guys that are 30 and under are virgins nowadays? (Pathetic.) So 50k were plotting to shoot their ex-girlfriend, ex-wife, whatever. That leaves 50k people, minus one, who was shooting the president.
(DIR) Post #Ajx2p0INHbUury3h9U by p
2024-07-15T10:06:55.519440Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux I clicked "Post" too early because no nicotine and I am currently the twitchiest motherfucker in the country so I'm probably on a watchlist for that alone.> My intent is to caution against leaping to that conclusion,Well, sure, everyone on the internet is certain of everything they post; I say "probably" because it seemed likely, not because it was definite. Dismissing a likely possibility is as bad as declaring total confidence in a mere possibility.> There are plenty of other motives for doing this, arguably more plausible ones.The rhetoric that this guy is the second coming of Extra Hitler is on the regular news channels here. For example, Project 2025 is a wish-list by a think-tank and they've basically scrawled "FOR THE GLORY OF ROME, WE MUST CRUCIFY EVERY VISIGOTH AMONG US AND EVERY UNCHASTE MAIDEN SHALL BE CAST INTO THE PYRE" and took a photo of it and emailed the photo to a bunch of Republicans; it's not going to happen, even the Trump Campaign isn't signing off on it, but Rachel "Even if the Steele Dossier and the Pee Tape are fake they are still real" Maddow is having hourly meltdowns about it. I would not be surprised if there are people that think Trump is actual Hitler. I mean, look at this thread.yuri_fury--moe_remains_true_motherfuckers.mp3
(DIR) Post #Ajx39qqPcIPNdfv7a4 by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-15T10:10:39.643455Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero The Heritage Foundation holds a lot of influence as a think tank whether or not anyone wants to acknowledge it
(DIR) Post #Ajx6MuWdXdzSgNabFw by p
2024-07-15T10:46:40.096272Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I do research for fediverse.partyOh, cool. I wonder why they use the-federation.info as a data source; it is possibly the worst source of data. It is part of the reason Fedilist exists: after fediverse.network went down, fedi lost the only neutral source of data. For someone that is thinking of joining fedi, curated lists are reasonable, so the-federation.info is fine, or there's fediverse.observer, which has some statistics but is targeted at people that are new to fedi.But that kind of thing is useless if you are running a server or if you want actual data on the network. Like if I suddenly get a bunch of spam from a server, even if the server is distasteful to the people that run the curated list, I still need to know if this is an actual hostile server or if it's just got open registrations and the admin has been idle for two months. Or if I see, e.g., youjo.love, and it's run by Nazi pedophiles, maybe that's bad PR if you want to push fedi, but that information is relevant if you are operating a server. Or if I'm trying to understand the network and I want to know something, censored data is useless.> Besides I agree with Doctorow that breaking walls of text into short stanzas, and making each one a post, is a medium in itself. Allowing people to respond to one part a line of argument directly, as you did here.I think you can do that pretty easily with whatever textual medium. USENET and email solved this problem, and for a thousand years, people have used inline quotes. It's a conversation, not a series of arguments, isn't it?
(DIR) Post #Ajx6QFIyjv3pzxn7Cq by p
2024-07-15T10:47:16.264227Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux > for a thousand years, people have used inline quotes.This was intended to be hyperbole but it reminded me:socrates_emails.png
(DIR) Post #Ajx6id98pwYn9ZxM92 by p
2024-07-15T10:50:35.612540Z
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@strypey @not_br549 @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Anything that's too good to be true (in this case for the election prospects of the GoP candidate) usually isn't.Given that it is true that someone shot at him, and that he was not seriously injured, the only actual question is who did it; I don't think it's a stretch (let alone "too good to be true") to say that someone that would shoot at a guy is of the opinion that the world is better off without that guy.
(DIR) Post #Ajx7efXK6nlvMUwTMe by p
2024-07-15T11:01:04.960812Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Or more likely, they think the shooting would be bad for the Biden campaign, and good for the GoP's chance of retaking the Presidency.You keep saying it's more likely with very little reason behind it. This would be a black swan event if it occurred, and things that are unprecedented are safe to consider less likely than things that are rare but have occurred. Possible, sure, probable, maybe, *more* probable, no. Bullet misses by an inch, gets the guy in the ear: this is not something you *can* plan (or if you want to take the risk, you give the guy a better rifle).What is most likely is that the guy that shot at Trump wanted Trump dead. That's not to say that, once it's happened, people won't be lining up to exploit the event, and you can speculate plenty about that, but it is overwhelmingly unlikely that the shooting itself was 4D chess.> But it's not inconveivable. My point is, reserve judgement, keep asking probing questions and looking at the evidence.You are :tinfoil: preaching to the choir :tinfoil3: on this point, but unless we see something concrete, I am going to stick to "I can't see because it's night, not because I've been struck blind by an angry god."
(DIR) Post #Ajx91qqOKju12vTllw by p
2024-07-15T11:16:28.643450Z
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@strypey @stux @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I would be having this exact same discussion, but with Biden supporters.Do you think you're having this conversation with Trump supporters? I'm an anarchist.I mean, speaking of partisans, I don't think it's safe to assume that disliking Biden is the same as liking Trump, or that thinking the assassination is a bad thing is the same as being strongly in favor of Trump: the assumption of partisanship contributes to partisanship. The ingroup/outgroup tendency isn't political, it just comes out in politics. You can see it everywhere, like this is a really good piece and it's about programming languages, not politics: https://www.perl.com/pub/2000/12/advocacy.html/ .> Even if it a lone gunman, whoever is behind this, one of their goals - whether explicit or implicit - is to inflame partisan tensions.Partisan tensions have been inflamed by the time shooting starts. To say that you are certain the shooting has occurred in order to inflame partisan tensions, you have to assume that there the motivation behind the shooting was not to get rid of the person being shot at.> I encourage everyone in the US and beyond not to let them succeed in that.Sure, laudable goal, but I'm not hopeful; you're preaching to the choir again. I think open communication has the opposite effect, it helps people understand each other. But FSE has been blocked by a large number of servers, specifically due to my adamant refusal to ban people for having unpopular opinions. In my view, if you want to stop the partisan divide, you need to talk to Fediblock. (I'd do it, but they won't talk to me; the think I'm a Nazi. In the mean time, Nazis think I'm scary: https://poa.st/notice/AjVBjsa3Hq242jShRQ .)
(DIR) Post #AjxEcffDMcfUrAcyDQ by p
2024-07-15T12:19:09.395948Z
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@strypey @leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > As I said in another post, I'm simply calling for cool heads and scepticism towards *all* knee-jerk speculations,Well, no one is going to object to that, but I am going to say that it is condescending to tell me that you can be more objective about the shit outside my window than I can be, and it is presumptuous to declare that your allegedly objective view ought to matter to the people that have to live here. You have your own interests, you have what you would like to see from the US; you can claim objectivity if you want, but so can anyone.So, you know, did my taxes go up or down under Trump? What about Biden? You know what candidates *claim*, you know what the media claims, but you're not here. Did any new laws get in my way? Did I have trouble finding toilet paper during the 'Rona Panic? What does a dozen eggs cost me, and what did a dozen eggs cost me in 2019? What have my neighbors said? Did I watch any family restaurants close down after three generations and did I drive past movie shoots that had catering companies operating under exemptions granted by the mayor? How do you even find these things out?I had a very, very different concept of the criminal justice system in California before I saw how it works first-hand, and I live in this state: I can say the criminal justice system affects me, sure, but you could fill a book with the things I didn't know but had to learn quickly, and you could fill dozens more with the things I still don't know, and that is one facet of the government. One. If you know shit about that, if you can tell me a single thing that I don't already know about the practical reality of criminal courts here, I'll have a heart attack, keel over at my desk now. Not to single you out specifically, I don't mean for you to take it personally, but I do want you to understand: there is plenty that the citizens here don't know, and most of them are ignorant enough that the mind boggles, so do you think there's anything that someone that has never lived here can tell me about US politics? You heard of Kamala Harris when she was running for Vice President, but she was the Attorney General of the State of California under Jerry Brown. The one from the Dead Kennedys song: a loophole in the term limits law allowed him to serve another two terms. Brown was Attorney General before her, and I've seen his signature on responses to motions I filed with the state court of appeals. So now Harris is VP, and you have heard of her, and your opinion is your opinion: you're free to have it, you're free to express it, but I don't value your opinion on Harris any more than I value a coin toss. Don't take it personally, but you have to understand that if I am on the iceberg and you once saw a photo of the iceberg, you have more to hear than to say, and it's arrogant to assume otherwise.Since I've got to live with the decisions these people make, and since I've got a significantly better view of what is going on here than someone that is not here, I'm completely comfortable declaring that the endless torrent of political opinions coming from overseas is a torrent of uninformed horseshit by people that are neither involved nor committed. If I'm having ham and eggs for breakfast, the chicken was involved, the pig was committed. This is a sort of common expression, but it doesn't mention the random European guy, and the reason for the omission of the random European guy is that the random European guy didn't do shit and I didn't ask his opinion on what I ought to eat.I get that things that happen here affect people that are not here. They should take it up with their own governments; I think that politicians in .nz are probably more accessible to you anyway. Europe's obsession with incessantly dictating to Americans how we should handle our own issues is absurd, and Germany's interference with US politics is infuriating. (Surrender be damned, we nuked the wrong country.)> (1/2)We need to get you a bigger character limit.dead_kennedys--08_California_Uber_Alles.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjxFjXDtFDyEewgRRw by p
2024-07-15T12:31:36.133766Z
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@strypey @leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @nach @jeffcliff @sj_zero > But NZ has been a non-voting economic colony of the US since the 1980s, if not earlier.1967, but this was and remains your decision. The reality is that you can pick the US or the PRC for your economic ally and neither will let you operate independently: cost of doing business. Given that we are beholden to the World Bank and the IMF, although I feel bad for your problems, I think we have our own hands full at the moment, and this informs my vote to a greater extent than anything you have to say, as covered in the previous reply. I recommend you acquire some beans, bullion, bullets, bitcoins, and bpork belly; I think things will get rough within our lifetime.
(DIR) Post #AjxGJKetR73s7HNq76 by p
2024-07-15T12:38:04.306590Z
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@strypey @StarProphet @jeffcliff @sj_zero > hypothetically it's possible that the shooter was supposed to hit the crowd vaguely near the Orange Felon, and only hit him at all because they missedYes, I said that was unlikely already.
(DIR) Post #AjxH6hMHpLyEhzDhaK by p
2024-07-15T12:46:59.611675Z
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@Zergling_man @leyonhjelm @NEETzsche @stux What's the conclusion?
(DIR) Post #AjxHc0ygvt00XB7HQO by mint@ryona.agency
2024-07-15T12:52:36.886337Z
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@p @leyonhjelm @NEETzsche @stux @Zergling_man NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
(DIR) Post #AjxIG9gJzYE16yfFqq by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2024-07-15T12:59:54.102982Z
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@p That borgar is solution@NEETzsche @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjxNgFAwgghbS0FQzA by p
2024-07-15T14:00:38.854128Z
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@teratology @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux Well, yeah, but it's like the Green New Deal: most of it is shit even the Heritage Foundation could not believe is workable.
(DIR) Post #AjxRojKKruu564wTNA by p
2024-07-15T14:47:00.067767Z
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@mint @NEETzsche @Zergling_man @leyonhjelm @stux They shot Trump, that happened.
(DIR) Post #AjxSXK3Fgn9XjnDN7g by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T14:54:59.799302Z
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@TheRealKat @waltercool @stux >The myth you're buying into is "gun safety laws are unconstitutional!" No one wants to take away your right to bear arms!That's what it always start as. >automatic weaponryA skilled shooter has a near full-auto firerate. Not to mention that dealing with rifle's recoil set to full-auto isn't "easy" and for most is horribly inaccurate.>bump stocks that turn a regular weapon into a massive killing machineAll firearms are killing machines. That's what they are made to do.>Statistically mass shootings are done by someone who shouldn't have been able to get a gun in the 1st place let alone a mass destruction weapon.I agree with that. US has a problem in that regard. But gun control is almost never a good way to lower those numbers. The black market always existed and will always exist. If someone wants a firearm and can't own it legally, they will always find ways to get them. One of the best solutions that exists is more firearms and weapons in the hands of qualified people, because when a gunfight breaks out, there's a bigger chance that someone with a deadly weapon, a knife or a firearm, is near and is able to respond quicker than police. And of course investigating where people get their firearms illegally.>The obsession with guns in this country is alarming!There's nothing wrong with that. If you ever been to a shooting range and tried few, you probably know how "fun" and enjoyable they can be.>Also, statistically countries with stronger gun laws have less!Statistically maybe. Realistically the country that bans all knives in public, which is somewhat rare has one of the most, if not most, attacks involving knives in the world, ie. UK. There's almost no way to get a firearm in Japan, yet Shinzo Abe was killed by a homemade one. Gun control does NOT work in most cases.And to further prove my point, I live in a country with one of the most lenient laws when it comes to owning guns and mass shooting occur on average every 6-7 years (there has been a slight increase in mass shootings this and last year after more than 2 decades.) And in most cases using illegally owned firearms.
(DIR) Post #AjxTyMMFK2EYfCYU64 by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T15:11:04.627912Z
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@p @stux @Zergling_man To make a very long story short, mainstream politics in Europe are basically "Do whatever US does 5-10 years later." So in that regard you can't be surprised when Europeans say that Trump should be stopped, or try to have a say in US politics. They say that, because mainstream media in the US have been saying that for almost a decade and the mainstream European follows that sentiment.I can't resist this one:>We don't have thousand-year-old blood feuds in the US.Your Native American ancestors might, if they survived to this day. The native tribes were killing each other long before colonization.
(DIR) Post #AjxUvsR7hKfVEtDU00 by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-07-15T15:21:52.928773Z
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That's funny, I usually think of the US as lagging Europe š¤
(DIR) Post #AjxV9dk57xffiheATY by p
2024-07-15T15:24:23.729300Z
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@phnt @Zergling_man @stux > To make a very long story short, mainstream politics in Europe are basically "Do whatever US does 5-10 years later."It's not my fault they do this.> So in that regard you can't be surprised when Europeans say that Trump should be stopped, or try to have a say in US politics.I'm not surprised that people want to meddle, I'm just surprised that nobody slaps them.> Your Native American ancestors might, if they survived to this day.I had avoided mentioning this in public; I guess there it is, though.If my particular line were the sort to hold a grudge, there would have been less "where all the white women at" and the disposition of the land might have been less favorable.> The native tribes were killing each other long before colonization. I'm aware.
(DIR) Post #AjxVn8oLY3EfN7Ted6 by p
2024-07-15T15:31:32.060206Z
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@nicholas @phnt @stux @Zergling_man We do a thing, then Europe does a worse version. We have an American Revolution and build the US, then France has a French Revolution and behead Antoine Lavoisier and fuck it up so bad that they get a Corsican emperor that hates the French.
(DIR) Post #AjxW3m7p9APxw5WGcy by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T15:34:00.512257Z
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@p @stux @Zergling_man Please sign my petition to disband NATO and let them figure it out themselves.
(DIR) Post #AjxWFvMOdYUg3L82Ns by p
2024-07-15T15:36:44.173772Z
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@0 @Zergling_man @stux Signed, cosigned, notarized, fuck's sake, please just give the entire continent to Putin so *he* can deal with their whining. I am going to punch out the next fucking Euro that whines about the US military from under our nuclear umbrella.
(DIR) Post #AjxWcl3Z70nEkzCzce by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T15:40:50.048691Z
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@0 @p @stux @Zergling_man That's the other thing, the American tax payer subsidizes their defense and they still wanna talk shit.Seriously, ever run into a German tourist? First thing they do is start telling you how every thing in America is wrong and there are too many guns. I say we redeploy all those dope f-22s back to America so we can have fun air shows all summer.
(DIR) Post #AjxWkdKRjAG16erMga by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T15:41:46.826141Z
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@ins0mniak @p @stux @Zergling_man The only European that understand how much they owe is a Pole, and that's only because Article 5 is their intended opening play.
(DIR) Post #AjxWtkZu8zKsCDRBiq by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T15:43:54.410591Z
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@0 @p @stux @Zergling_man yeah and poles take showers unlike some on that continent.
(DIR) Post #AjxXpZaDBIj2tK9YQK by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T15:54:22.139460Z
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@p @0 @stux @Zergling_man Ha that's basically what I just said.
(DIR) Post #AjxXu8CEQqhJOu6tpw by p
2024-07-15T15:55:12.461636Z
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@ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @stux > America is wrong and there are too many guns. :liberty:we_got_the_guns.png
(DIR) Post #AjxY8gNQ99bHSoHZVQ by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T15:57:48.753328Z
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@p @0 @stux @Zergling_man That is so badass.
(DIR) Post #AjxYXqw61aGJS6VI8W by p
2024-07-15T16:02:23.183275Z
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@ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @stux :hulk: Take your vitamins! :randysavage:hulk-rocking.gif
(DIR) Post #AjxYeLsTtfpH9auax6 by p
2024-07-15T16:03:33.657484Z
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@ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @stux HELL YEAHamericagunz.gif
(DIR) Post #AjxYoi42GOX8rLFt5s by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T16:05:21.655652Z
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@p @stux @Zergling_man >It's not my fault they do this.I'm not blaming you, or anyone outside of Europe. The origin of this behavior is after the fall of Berlin wall, where people realized that living in Western Germany was much better than what they thought. At that point people started to realize that what the USA was doing when it comes to politics/economy perhaps wasn't bad. Fast-forward to reality and the hivemind-like behavior of EU politics essentially declared USA politics as something everyone should strive towards and declared Russia and China as the big bad. And this behavior is the result.>I'm not surprised that people want to meddle, I'm just surprised that nobody slaps them.It's the European mentality, if we encounter someone that tries to meddle with something they probably shouldn't and there's no harm, we ignore it. In this case all it takes is to add a few keywords to the worldfilter and being done with it. If elections start to get swayed by these opinions or there are some economic repercussions, then we can start talking about someone getting slapped at best. In fact ex-soviet countries especially in the Central Europe and some in Eastern Europe to some extent believe that US meddles to much in our politics and should stop trying to be the "Arbiter of truth and good in the world". These opinions are held by the older generations and are almost always labeled as extremist and dangerous. In other words, Europe politics are becoming more nationalistic and the recent elections and new governments in the last 2 years are a proof of that.>>Native Americans>I had avoided mentioning this in public; I guess there it is, though.I realized after posting that it is a bad joke to make and for that I'm sorry.
(DIR) Post #AjxYsgKAfpbqcchFOi by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T16:06:07.426481Z
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@p @0 @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #Ajxa1p6XUye0PhF93A by p
2024-07-15T16:19:00.472266Z
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@phnt @Zergling_man @stux > I'm not blaming you,Well, what I'm saying is that if I cannot have affected it, then I cannot be held responsible for it.> If elections start to get swayed by these opinionsYou know German Intelligence has made it their mission to screw with us?> believe that US meddles to much in our politicsOh, absolutely true, I'd like it if we stopped doing that: if you know how to rein in the CIA, I'm all ears.> I realized after posting that it is a bad joke to make and for that I'm sorry. Oh, the joke I didn't care about, just I've danced around my personal genetic makeup a lot on the internet because refusing to answer makes Nazis think I'm Jewish and this freaks them out, plus I don't think it matters so I like sticking it to people that think it does, plus other reasons.
(DIR) Post #AjxaKN7hkwt18KdJWi by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T16:21:51.359559Z
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@p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man I got my next 4 picked out already.
(DIR) Post #AjxaMIsyTyPCZOfFE8 by realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
2024-07-15T16:22:41Z
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@stux "I wish #Trump was dead but it's a shame somebody tried to kill him" is a wild take lol, especially since your reasoning is that the attempt was bad only because of what #MAGA cultists would do in responseI guess some people never learn, even if 80% of the planet understands the lesson
(DIR) Post #AjxaXHgRIC161j2Ljc by p@raru.re
2024-07-15T16:24:40Z
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> US military from under our nuclear umbrellacan I be grateful for this, but also opposed to wanton instigation and conflagration at the behest of the military industrial complex?Nuance can be hard, which is IMO one of the biggest issues right now. No one wants to be charitable, or even correct, easier to short circuit to calling people the worst things possible, and just crying wolf in the processLike I can admit that Trump might be a raging narcissist, but that doesn't mean he won't do the right thing if he gets' some kudos for it. The Abraham accords as an example. Politics seems to attract the power hungry, so I don't know how we can expect something else@p@fsebugoutzone.org unlisted cause I'm genuinely curious
(DIR) Post #AjxbKP7KRVoNGu2Jto by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T16:33:30.701636Z
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@ins0mniak @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man
(DIR) Post #AjxdFykejAwcFYRtse by istvan@poa.st
2024-07-15T16:55:10.504331Z
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@p @phnt @stux @Zergling_man Iām confused.Are you mestizo pistolero like I always thought, or full Indian āstands with pistolā?Either way you are a cool guy.
(DIR) Post #AjxdcupRTjhUkBcnlQ by p
2024-07-15T16:59:19.592792Z
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@p > can I be grateful for this, but also opposed to wanton instigation and conflagration at the behest of the military industrial complex?Yeah, but I don't even know who you'd write to if you wanted to express gratitude.> Like I can admit that Trump might be a raging narcissist, but that doesn't mean he won't do the right thing if he gets' some kudos for it.Yeah, I mean, politician. His best features tend to be the ones that he does not share with other politicians.
(DIR) Post #Ajxdl8zKiYe4yYAtzE by p
2024-07-15T17:00:48.816418Z
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@phnt @ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @stux That makes us look cooler than we are.gun_accessible.jpg
(DIR) Post #Ajxe2WO2yXLgT51LX6 by p@raru.re
2024-07-15T17:03:56Z
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If the other politicians could be trusted to do what's best for the American public, Trump wouldn't even need to run, and the support he gets is the evidence of how things are degraded. example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT-u-SPj4_cI want the best of the US, and I'm not trying to be overly or needlessly critical, I am trying to understand, and that means acknowledging everything, without actually support or condoning it. I find it kinda crazy today that you can't point out something that is very likely true without being considered some sort of supporter thereof.@p@fsebugoutzone.org
(DIR) Post #Ajxe6cwYXXsJxf7UaO by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:04:10.840707Z
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man We need to be the America that Japan thinks we are.
(DIR) Post #AjxeKaPWkm18A0KLKq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T17:07:05.501602Z
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We're barely getting ammo vending.
(DIR) Post #AjxeR6lpLzuAG9rrBQ by p
2024-07-15T17:08:23.858698Z
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@p I've got my theories. On the other hand, I also am ceasing nicotine so none of my theories should be listened to at present.
(DIR) Post #AjxeuXC8BijabwCcPw by p
2024-07-15T17:13:42.942702Z
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@thendrix @phnt @0 @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man "Verify ID"? What is this, a European vending machine?
(DIR) Post #Ajxf7nYue5NL8dBQ36 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T17:16:01.996190Z
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I know right! We used to just be able to pick it up off the shelf at box stores. That said most people are still going to buy bulk like 1000 rd min anyway to save money.
(DIR) Post #AjxfVvttIN3LwuVIRc by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:20:26.708931Z
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@p @0 @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix A European vending machine would put GPS trackers to the boxes and put you on a watchlist.
(DIR) Post #AjxfgNLw5CvFzFbKU4 by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T17:22:16.647841Z
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Don't forget the time release poison gas in rainbow colors. The EU is the most self destructive region in the world right now, and that's saying something. The best part is that most in the EU believe their MSM and pretend it's not true.
(DIR) Post #AjxgGrc73Du4GSZBk8 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:28:55.631871Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man I've been playing the new Resident Evil games the last few weeks and they seem to think we're all in really good shape.Tho I highly recommend Japanese vidya, it's so nice playing shit with attractive women and no politics.
(DIR) Post #AjxgMInnOOUK2HcmEy by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:29:55.475895Z
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@p @phnt @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Yeah that the downside of those, there's an AI that takes your picture and compares it with your ID
(DIR) Post #AjxgbMCX2NeAvBNCpU by SilverDeth
2024-07-15T17:32:39.593536Z
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@phnt I see zero problem with this arrangement - other than those better be select fire carbines...@ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @p @stux
(DIR) Post #AjxgefBCvpOYeRKXj6 by p
2024-07-15T17:33:15.443044Z
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@phnt @0 @Zergling_man @ins0mniak @stux @thendrix I hear that's what they do with cigarettes now.
(DIR) Post #AjxgkFbOwPw13sFLai by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:34:15.090091Z
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@p @phnt @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix 7/11 makes you do weird shit for vape products.Tho if you buy old school ciggies they don't even bother to card anyone lol
(DIR) Post #AjxgykXEjLm13IDDPc by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:36:22.782016Z
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix In the Netherlands, even buying food will get you put on a list.
(DIR) Post #Ajxh4DMeyFjzues3UW by p
2024-07-15T17:37:52.511316Z
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@0 @Zergling_man @ins0mniak @phnt @stux @thendrix Obviously: it means you're supporting those evil right-wing farmers.
(DIR) Post #Ajxh7JoHSluylvGpCS by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:37:55.174110Z
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix It's a moral imperative to starve plants.
(DIR) Post #AjxhBEEC9uRIcNFwBs by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:39:07.417261Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix In Virginia you can legit grow weed in your apartment now.
(DIR) Post #AjxhMbbda15cJEe76m by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:40:39.908394Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Let the plant know that we need to make less CO2, so just breathe less or whatever.
(DIR) Post #AjxhR3b9RohAHeXcfY by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:41:55.810707Z
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@p @0 @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Never heard about that. To be honest vending machine cigs are usually the bottom of the barrel and usually in some awful pub. Everyone buys cigs from supermarkets or from newspaper stands.This might also be something completely new I'm not aware of, because I hate the smell of almost all cigarette brands. Maybe they do it for the purpose of denying health insurance for cancer treatments. :cirno_shrug:
(DIR) Post #AjxhUOR2QubLmEOy92 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:42:34.813446Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I have both the air conditioning and my Dyson cooling tower cranked rn. Checkmate Greta.
(DIR) Post #AjxhnUpmrhuV7r5S6K by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:45:59.995027Z
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@ins0mniak @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Greta is interested in something else now.
(DIR) Post #Ajxhos5JuDqBWe0Yc4 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:46:16.733420Z
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@phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix You used to see ciggie vending machines everywhere years ago, but smoking has become kinda taboo now. Like where I live you can't smoke within 50 ft of a building entrance.
(DIR) Post #AjxhpcbUwuudnlPu9g by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:45:56.122841Z
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@phnt @p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix A cure for FAS.
(DIR) Post #AjxhxS3y1WrbQVSzMe by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:47:50.342612Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I've been saying that for years. I mean checks out.
(DIR) Post #Ajxi7WbXzcUiPLycL2 by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:49:08.848307Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I don't want to imply that Scandinavian women are alcoholic and neglectful mothers, I want to state that clearly.
(DIR) Post #AjxiGzcvSTNl1c8VU0 by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:51:19.731150Z
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@ins0mniak @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix It's not that bad here. Smoking is prohibited in pubs, inside buildings, public transportation stops, train stations and any kind of public transport. That's pretty much it.
(DIR) Post #AjxiKz8hDGYgfftrnM by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:51:34.535807Z
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@phnt @p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix > inside pubsyou've lost
(DIR) Post #AjxiPMNckKWTuRy7Bg by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:52:50.342622Z
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@0 @p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Yeah, a lot of people were upset about that. Before that pubs usually had smoking and non-smoking areas which was perfectly fine.
(DIR) Post #AjxiPgSy4AgICocfIG by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:52:56.315956Z
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@phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix That started happening here about twenty years ago, before that people smoked everywhere. When I was small there were ashrays and such all over, you could even smoke on planes.
(DIR) Post #AjxiVfALoVENuVlXHc by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:54:01.454994Z
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@phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I remember people getting worked up about it for about a week and then it was accepted.They banned vaping in bars where I live which seems weird.
(DIR) Post #Ajxie2DTzp7JiWDrii by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T17:55:01.100657Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix If I can't smoke at the bar, fuck that place, the only reason they have to overcharge for the drink is the ambiance. If they can't even do that right, have fun going out of business, you deserve it.
(DIR) Post #AjxisYwH8Di9G46LUO by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T17:58:06.194428Z
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@ins0mniak @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Legally vaping is the same as smoking, but people don't usually care about it outside, because the smell isn't bad compared to smoking. Hookahs are completely exempt from this and there is a lot of bars with them.
(DIR) Post #AjxixXRo6VwS53DsOm by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T17:59:03.530541Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I feel that.I just drink at my place. My own music, no cops, no morons blabbing about their .gov jobs...
(DIR) Post #AjxjAQimQJGoz4JDHc by p
2024-07-15T18:01:24.511171Z
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@phnt @0 @Zergling_man @ins0mniak @stux @thendrix > Never heard about that.Was joke; trying to figure out why might not be fruitful.
(DIR) Post #AjxjEdopfWC2lQ9ES8 by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:02:08.641784Z
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@phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Yeah for sure.Tons of hooka bars here man. There's a neighborhood that literally has them next door to each other.
(DIR) Post #AjxjIYiWZwXA6E47rE by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:02:20.291027Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix I got another 3 bottles of bourbon recently, a Still Austin, a Ben Holladay, and another Frey Ranch.
(DIR) Post #AjxjIaib8dmUJ27DFY by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:02:47.379399Z
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Those are great places to get shot. I remember a time some cops got clapped it at one.
(DIR) Post #AjxjLi4EGulFy0iiGG by phnt@fluffytail.org
2024-07-15T18:03:23.561869Z
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@p @0 @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix That's the thing, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a real thing in some sense. GPs already have to ask if you are a smoker.
(DIR) Post #AjxjNWqexE37keEyIa by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:03:16.262974Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man Wow, you're making me pro-hookah bar.
(DIR) Post #AjxjO9mQCupgUnYdbk by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:03:52.256251Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix nice. I drink blanco tequila. I have fun going to ABC and finding new shit.
(DIR) Post #AjxjT4awudshrXXHZQ by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:04:44.003987Z
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I was just saying it wasn't just normies and bangers dying. The one I used to live near was shut down so many times, but it would open back up.
(DIR) Post #AjxjZLx3IJhNQjrvWq by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:05:51.712416Z
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You guys are so into haram culture.
(DIR) Post #AjxjcEdOxHL3bd3GFc by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:06:25.047345Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man I'm kinda degenerate ngl
(DIR) Post #AjxjcjDFGZpsRU3JHk by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:05:58.839457Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man It's just a joke for me anyway, when I want to smoke hookah I just have my own, I don't really go near cities if it can be avoided.
(DIR) Post #AjxjhHvI9id1FkpT5k by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:07:19.593798Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Suburbia is the way.You get all the benefits and little of the carjackings.
(DIR) Post #AjxjlAuaAMG6fLLnwe by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:07:30.432155Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix "Wait, the self-described cultist isn't clean?"I am high right now.
(DIR) Post #AjxjrtJnyXcA82Lp0y by p
2024-07-15T18:09:15.788981Z
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@phnt @ins0mniak @0 @Zergling_man @stux @thendrix > Greta is interested in something else now. She went full-gamer.
(DIR) Post #Ajxjv0FCgLbwTegN8a by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:09:47.888091Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix This is the way.
(DIR) Post #AjxjwSsfhIera7qA9Q by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:10:03.012920Z
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She's a Gaza Girl now, and burning things is her new kink.
(DIR) Post #Ajxk6Nifk358TCtMRs by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:11:51.307975Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man That's fantastic. I love it. I'm watching protests as we speak."trans liberation for Palestine"lmfao, retards
(DIR) Post #AjxkCprM1xhRTy1wW0 by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:12:30.628304Z
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@ins0mniak @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix They're making great progress towards being carbon zero.
(DIR) Post #AjxkIz16tet3cYWc7M by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:14:08.579550Z
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@0 @phnt @p @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix There literally some fat boomer on screen rn with a kaffia and malcom x on his shirt.This shit is the best entertainment ever
(DIR) Post #AjxkMP9y9dwLZQIgMK by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:14:43.961084Z
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Was he eating bacon at the same time?
(DIR) Post #AjxkWygYvSCWeBaSbA by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:16:39.689077Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man No, but looks like hes eaten a lot in his life. Little prob with all that revolutionary communism, no more loading up the minivan at cosco.
(DIR) Post #AjxkdD8a6fy5CrfHrU by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T18:17:45.894436Z
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Or eating much of in general... those damn sparrows and kulaks!
(DIR) Post #AjxkoQQh1kPdcIU45A by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T18:19:49.031750Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man You just know that when they get done with their little march they're all headed right to the nearest artisinal small plate restaurant
(DIR) Post #AjxlWV8QtShsx5xZYW by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.world
2024-07-15T18:27:48.030222Z
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@sun @Nudhul @p @stux that's a pretty extreme way to look at things
(DIR) Post #AjxllEMrW3jnIEjUIq by p
2024-07-15T18:30:28.166430Z
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@0 @ins0mniak @Zergling_man @phnt @stux @thendrixhighlander.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjxlpXbHx2vM6IXHMG by p
2024-07-15T18:31:14.896330Z
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@thendrix @phnt @0 @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man Oh, I heard she started playing video games and suddenly began hating women and minorities.gretagamer.jpeg
(DIR) Post #AjxlxuClnAgyWY3WhE by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-15T18:32:13.764915Z
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@p @phnt @ins0mniak @stux @Zergling_man @thendrix Behead a bitch, absorb they soul. Filling Stux's notifications to replies he's too scared to read. $90 dabs, bitches forgot I am him.
(DIR) Post #AjxmSo2OluqkNDwIXQ by p
2024-07-15T18:38:20.676425Z
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@0 @Zergling_man @ins0mniak @phnt @stux @thendrix :dracula: I made a water bong out of Sean Connery's skull. That antediluvian shit got me wanting to snort trilobites.
(DIR) Post #AjxwGwl3WVd1UAoLlw by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T20:28:11.219093Z
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Fedi has the pulse of the conversation:
(DIR) Post #AjxwKtCSh4WzbpVgMi by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T20:28:56.800501Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man The view is like a televised yeast infection
(DIR) Post #AjxwVV7aYdba7GI57g by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-15T20:30:48.545024Z
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They're useful in that anyone that values their opinions can be dismissed as weak willed, anti-American fucktards. They swing 180 on issues depending on the noun in the sentence, and hold no principals at all.
(DIR) Post #Ajxwdd6ckuIlCDiQam by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-15T20:32:20.162925Z
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@thendrix @phnt @p @0 @stux @Zergling_man 100.You could go to your local divebar, read the graffiti on the walls in the men's room and get a more coherent understanding of world affairs.
(DIR) Post #Ajy49i1Si5GROIXpxI by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-15T21:55:51.624454Z
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@p @leyonhjelm @NEETzsche @stux Apparently that it's hellthread time.
(DIR) Post #Ajy4DHwVcHD7fDw13Y by Zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith
2024-07-15T21:57:05.007903Z
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@p @NEETzsche @fkq1q2r2 @stux 9 likes, I'm internet famous
(DIR) Post #Ajy50nUJ7YnBgmLqK0 by p
2024-07-15T22:06:10.687879Z
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@Zergling_man @NEETzsche @leyonhjelm @stux It's always hellthread time. The ride never ends.
(DIR) Post #AjyBvbPbI5xmT2cU2y by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:23:38Z
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@not_br549> it was a leftist loonAccording to the news reports I saw, he donated to the Demcrats at 17, then became a card-carrying Republican;"Crooks was a registered Republican, according to state voter records, and donated $US15 to a Democratic political action committee when he was 17."https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/522206/after-attempt-on-his-life-donald-trump-sees-moment-for-unity@SilverDeth @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyCPnUyuuZqdpXDKi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:29:04Z
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@p > People want big events to have big causesAll generalisations are false. I get that lone nutters occasionally cause big damage. The Unabomber is a good example. But staged political assasinations? There's plenty of historical precedents for conspiracies where a lone nutter takes the fall. Let's just say I remain sceptical.> That leaves 50k people, minus one, who was shooting the president*Former* President.@stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyCqS2QoYvJtxtFpI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:33:40Z
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@p > It's like the Green New Deal: most of it is shit even the Heritage Foundation could not believe is workableYou mean the Green New Deal Biden pretty much implemented over the past 4 years, which is why your country's economy hasn't completely imploded, after the previous admin's woeful mishandling of a global pandemic and its aftermath?That Green New Deal?@stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjyDgzEQeAlxuLYKDA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:43:24Z
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@p > I's a conversation, not a series of arguments, isn't it?Don't make me quote Monty Python, I'll do it, I swear I will!Ok, but you forced my hand..."An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition."https://blog.apaonline.org/2021/03/24/the-argument-clinic/Ergo, in any conversation where people are disagreeing, their comments are arguments. However casual and friendly the presentation (and that's what I aim for here at all times althought).@stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyE4Yksjnpgk4yN8K by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:47:36Z
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> I wonder why they use the-federation.info as a data sourceYou'd have to ask LightOne. But I'm guessing it has to do with the goal of the site, which is to be a friendly entry point for newbies. I have no problem with the edgelord side of the verse existing (which is why I talk to you folk like you're actually fellow humans), but you've got to admit, it's not for the faint of heart ; )@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyEdYYVTJJGG5s87E by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-15T23:53:40Z
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@p> I don't think it's a stretch (let alone "too good to be true") to say that someone that would shoot at a guy is of the opinion that the world is better off without that guyFair point. But his death would hypothetically be *very* good for the big chunk of the country who think he's NeoHitler, and a near miss is going to be *very* good for the campaign against Biden, who a big chunk of the country thinks is NeoStalin.@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyG2vJa5f3c2TYCQ4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T00:09:45Z
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@p > things that are unprecedented ... which political assasinations falsely blamed on a lone actor are not. This is something that has been proven to happen, on more than one occasion.> Bullet misses by an inch, gets the guy in the ear: this is not something you *can* planAs I've said a couple of times, in this scenario the survival of the Orange Felon isn't required. He'd be just as useful to the interests of Putin, Xi, Netanyahu etc as a marytr.@SilverDeth @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyJUERJOQIx2Bsc3k by p
2024-07-16T00:48:22.079113Z
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@strypey @not_br549 @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @sj_zero > then became a card-carrying Republican;Didn't take the "antifa" stuff out of his Instagram bio, though, apparently. To someone that is unfamiliar with our election process, this might look like a contradiction, but someone that knows how primaries work would recognize this. It doesn't get much news coverage, but it's not really a secret: cross-registering is pretty common.Some states allow you to vote in whichever party's primary you want, most do not: you can only vote in the primary election for the party that matches your registration. This became a common strategy a long time back: register as a member of the opposing party, then vote in their primary so that you can get the weaker candidate on the ballot. In the case of a run-off or a national election, the weaker candidate doesn't even have to win, just drag the race out for longer: when the members of a party are running against each other, they tend to pander to the far corners of their party's base, and then they have to do an abrupt shift to the center to try to appeal to undecided voters, and the longer the primary goes on, the harder that gets. ActBlue, where the kid sent his money, is one of the companies that advocates the strategy of cross-registering to game primaries.Registering for a party is free, can be changed any time, it's not like in other countries: it doesn't affect anything besides primaries and opinion polls that ask how you're registered.
(DIR) Post #AjyJj3YW8n7dcfJqNc by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T00:51:01.255808Z
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@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero they also register you when you get a driver's licence a lot of the time. Or in many cases they have open primaries which allow anyone to vote however.
(DIR) Post #AjyJlZirW45bxvMJA8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T00:51:27Z
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Ok, guilty as charged. I do tend to assume that anyone who leaps to blaming a leftist for the shooting is a supporter of the person shot, and that they (like all of us) are being dragged by the gravity of partisan tensions. I acknowlege this isn't always the case and I aporeciate your consistently respectful and thoughtful replies.@p @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyJrdpb9YtGRhOzrc by SilverDeth
2024-07-16T00:52:35.918243Z
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@p Yeah it was out yesterday that he was a ANTIFA backbencher. It was the lib-shit version of "operation chaos" - and if I were hypothetically gonna get... spicy... I'd muddy the water first.I'd make Dark Jeffery Cliffton look like Mitt Romney in contrast for about five months before I did anything... interesting. @strypey @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyK1HKPfpGZY9PXHM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T00:54:18Z
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@p > if you want to stop the partisan divide, you need to talk to FediblockSee my pinned posts. They loathe me, and the instance that I'm on, for similar reasons to the ones you describe ; )Eg @stux has permanently blocked me over some minor disagreement over the party line.@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyK3RslPAMcrUVrQO by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T00:54:42.905954Z
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@SilverDeth @p @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero >ANTIFA backbencherimagine being that level of a soyfuck lol
(DIR) Post #AjyM1VbkmXWxkIl8c4 by p
2024-07-16T01:16:47.523112Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > The Unabomber is a good example.I don't think he was actually crazy. I mean, Harvard let Nazis--I mean, patriotic German-Americans who took advantage of the liberal immigration policy afforded by Operation Paperclip, sorry--do MK-ULTRA experiments on him, sure, and he seems to have been worse for the wear but his essay isn't unhinged.> But staged political assasinations? There's plenty of historical precedents for conspiracies where a lone nutter takes the fall.Non-staged political assassinations are the more common case.> Let's just say I remain sceptical.> *Former* President.The guy that keeps saying "Orange Felon" wants to correct me on leaving off "former" in a post where I speculate that only half a percent of the country is able-bodied, I imply that everyone sending cash to a V-tuber is physically disabled, and I go on to say that half of the lunatics in the US are on fedi and the other half is guys trying to murder their ex-girlfriends.Now, some people might speculate that these are the telltale signs of a facetious post, people might suspect that the author was just having some fun, and they might go on to say that you were fact-checking a joke. Thank god you saw through that! :bidensmug::trumpkissr:bombs_away--china_all_the_time_ft._donald_trump.mp3
(DIR) Post #AjyM4pQXYExk5B65jc by p
2024-07-16T01:17:23.523078Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @stux Shit, typo, totally ruined the effect. :bidensmug::trumpkiss:
(DIR) Post #AjyMDqJnbgibS9F6Ku by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-16T01:18:28.686999Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero I didn't read the thread, but he sounds like a nigger.
(DIR) Post #AjyMJkzcJtdifpcfKa by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-16T01:20:03.997564Z
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I thought murdering your ex-girlfriend is how you get on the fedi. š¤
(DIR) Post #AjyMWkylgLs6ObQMuO by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T01:22:24.746193Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero >I don't think he was actually crazyA guy with an ultra high IQ is gonna go places that many think are crazy I mean we would have been morons to let Nazi scientists go to the Soviet UnionEugene Debs the socialist was campaigning for president from his jail cell and left wingers champion him endlessly. Elvis had a mugshot and hes the most American motherfucker ever.
(DIR) Post #AjyOViryEwTvTIsan2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T01:44:37Z
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@p> Didn't take the "antifa" stuff out of his Instagram bio, though, apparentlyAs an anarchist, surely you know that "antifa" and "left" are categories that overlap, but are far from the same thing. Sure, there are plenty of antifascist militants who identify as leftists. There are also plenty who don't.@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyOi5q2fTg2BQsNlo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T01:46:52Z
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But OK, fair point about cross-registration. I know people who've done vaguely similar things here, but it's not common AFAIK.@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyOtLe8EctCOcfj72 by subpanel@mstdn.social
2024-07-16T01:48:51Z
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@strypey @p @SilverDeth@fsebugoutzone.org @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zerohttps://mstdn.social/@subpanel/112344373971253137
(DIR) Post #AjyPVXDleGpBIaY6mO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T01:55:48Z
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Fair point on the former President thing. Yes, I was being pedantic. As for the Orange Felon thing, I refuse to name him in public because I try not to feed trolls.(1/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyPlao05c1F369atc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T01:58:42Z
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@p> his essay isn't unhingedIt's not illogical, but that's not the same thing. His actions were definitely unhinged.As well as failing ethics 101, they also had huge negative consequences for NVDA groups doing environmental defence for years afterwards, in the US and beyond. Was involved in them in Aotearoa in the 90s, can confirm.9/11 made it even harder in the noughties.(2/2)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyQJRgoUMSWcdvzbk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T02:04:48Z
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@p > Non-staged political assassinations are the more common caseYou got a reference for the numbers there? Remembering that the cases in the staged column are only those someone managed to prove.But even if you're right, you've quietly conceded my point, that staged assasination is hardly unprecedented.Have you looked into the history of the anarchist who was accused of shooting Archduke Ferdinand and kicking of WWI? Very sketchy.(3/3)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyQSRs7BF3LnHVth2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T02:06:27Z
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@p > Shit, typo, totally ruined the effectNever mind, Semaphore can't interpret those anyway : P@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyRsYfwbgKwNWpog4 by p
2024-07-16T02:22:24.271022Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology > You mean the Green New Deal Biden pretty much implemented over the past 4 years,President Biden, along with most of the Democratic leadership in the Senate, rejected it. It was full of fruitbat lunacy, *exactly* like "Project 2025". I'm sorry to be this harsh but someone has lied to you.Here's the closest it got to being "implemented": for the nth time, Cortez resubmitted *part* of it and it again died on the floor of the House. She claimed that it will create 20,000,000 jobs. This is the bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/2664 .> which is why your country's economy hasn't completely imploded,I am genuinely curious where you get this information: since it doesn't exist, and what parts of it sort of exist have remained inert, it can't possibly have had that effect. This is a real question, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm asking for real, no underhanded motives, I'm not trying to ask this so that I can pick fights about the source, I do not do that kind of thing, but you have been somewhat vague about where you get your information on US politics and I am interested: where do you get your information on US politics? Wherever it came from, someone has been lying to you, and I would like to know who is that far off the mark. Separately, there's congress.gov, there's senate.gov, and you can see these things for yourself. Primary sources. I don't need you to believe a word I say, because I'm citing public information.:lelandye:And this part was a bit ranty so I didn't want to obscure the other stuff, but one of the central pillars of the "Green New Deal" was high-speed rail. The State of California has not built a high-speed rail, let alone removed cars. Sixteen years ago, 2008, there was a referendum on the ballot, raising the sales tax to pay for the high-speed rail. The committee charged with building this train has failed to acquire the land, let alone lay any track, after spending ten times their initial budget. The minutes of their meetings are public and are available online, so you can see what they are doing: they convene, they draw a salary, and they conclude that they don't have enough information to put a train on a track and that they need to conduct more studies. I hate the TSA clusterfuck and it has completely soured me on airplanes: I'd know if there had been a train built, I would *love* if there was a train. I have taken a train across the country before, and it took longer than it would have taken if I had driven and driving would have allowed more opportunities to eat local food and meet local people, it cost almost as much as a plane ticket (and I got a regular seat, not a room with a bed: those cost several times what a plane ticket would cost), it was completely stupid. I would love for trains to be real in this country and they are not real for anything besides moving shipping containers to and from ports.
(DIR) Post #AjySCsBhloomgcNSTY by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T02:26:02.904492Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology >which is why your country's economy hasn't completely implodedYou mean the strongest economy on the planet?
(DIR) Post #AjySMNHlWEdhjyk7CC by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T02:27:45.959803Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology High speed rail in America is pointless as all our traffic problems are in the cities.
(DIR) Post #AjySToyEz7X9dDA2u8 by p
2024-07-16T02:29:08.325111Z
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@strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Don't make me quote Monty Python, I'll do it, I swear I will!Nobody ever *has* to quote Monty Python, but it is almost always ill-advised.> "An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition."I don't plan to establish a definite proposition: I'm listening to what you have to say, then I'm saying things that I think of saying when I hear them. It's not goal-directed, I'm just talking to you.> Ergo, in any conversation where people are disagreeing, their comments are arguments.Well, pieces of it might be, we certainly have disagreed, but they're not discrete units. I make fart noises when I hear "Project 2025" and point out how panicked the (R)s were when the "Green New Deal" was proposed and that the (D)s are acting the same way about "Project 2025", and then you had a lot of things to say about the "Green New Deal". These things can overlap in a conversation but not so much if we're trying to lay out coherent arguments.
(DIR) Post #AjyTsCJfwBWiwPNHH6 by p
2024-07-16T02:44:44.965614Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I have no problem with the edgelord side of the verse existing (which is why I talk to you folk like you're actually fellow humans), but you've got to admit, it's not for the faint of heart ; )Well, that's not what I'd consider myself; I do not think an adult ought to have to supervise other adults and tell them how to talk to other adults or what sort of things they are allowed to think. But I'm saying for the sake of statistics, you know, fediverse.party says there are 2-7 million accounts, I count more than 14m. Especially egregiously, it says there is *one* Pleroma server, and there appear to be more than a thousand: http://demo.fedilist.com/instance?software=pleroma . There is a CSV, you can automate the process of verifying that they exist: http://demo.fedilist.com/instance/csv?software=pleroma . At a minimum, I am using Pleroma (I think; at least, that's the repo I cloned), I have used more Pleroma servers, I'm certain there's more than one.So, as I said, I can understand the-federation.info being filtered, and that's fine, but that makes it completely unsuitable to use for statistics: it's not reasonable to use the-federation.info as a data source. The "Decentralized Moderation" paper, that would not have been possible using the data on the-federation.info.
(DIR) Post #AjyUDlijV6zapINfSC by p
2024-07-16T02:48:38.876311Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero > But his death would hypothetically be *very* good for the big chunk of the country who think he's NeoHitler, and a near miss is going to be *very* good for the campaign against Biden, who a big chunk of the country thinks is NeoStalin.Yeah, but you can't rely on a near miss.
(DIR) Post #AjyURet7hTtXgqrcga by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T02:51:08.618997Z
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@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero It would tear this country to shreds.
(DIR) Post #AjyUmwRnbuMKEMERMG by mrsaturday@shitposter.world
2024-07-16T02:54:59.853801Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @p @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero Yep. It'd be open season on political opponents then. You'd see this country turn into 20th century Belfast.
(DIR) Post #Ajyn3boFORmWJxpSWO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:19:36Z
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@p> President Biden, along with most of the Democratic leadership in the Senate, rejected itA common tactic in legislatures is for an incoming executive to loudly and publicly rejects a policy package, then quietly slip most of its practical proposals into other legislation.(1/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynA8xT3mnirqG2ca by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:20:18Z
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We saw this in Aotearoa in 2020, where the previous government publicly capitulated to a victorious NO! campaign in a referendum on legalising recreational cannabis supply. All while bringing in California-style med pot regulations, so quietly that I didn't find out until a year or 2 later when I happened to visit the Hemp Store.(2/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynAJN0LhAb9wHZoW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:20:38Z
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Yes, the Green New Deal bill itself wasn't passed. But the Biden administration tried to slip so many of its short-medium term provisions into everywhere else it would fit, that the US left have to loudly remind themselves that he didn't do everything they might have wanted;https://jacobin.com/2024/07/bidenomics-pro-act-ira-unions(3/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynOizrrjrUh4Kirw by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:23:29Z
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@p> I am genuinely curious where you get this informationFrom a wide range of places, just like any other self-respecting anarchist. I read, I listen to podcasts, etc, from as many different angles as I can. I staunchly oppose much of what passes itself off as "left" these days, particularly US-style (neo-)liberalism, and actively look beyond left media for sources that respect their audience (whether right, centrist, independent, counterculture etc).(4/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynTU3cpz9Ro9MOBM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:24:21Z
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@p> one of the central pillars of the "Green New Deal" was high-speed railI'm not keen to get into the high-speed rail debate again so soon. @sj_zero and I debated this as length about a month ago. Sadly his posts all seem to have vanished, breaking the thread, or I'd link to it.(5/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynW9vY8bKGFArHdo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:24:44Z
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Suffice to say, having made regular use of a cheap, electric high-speed rail system in China, I'm just as frustrated by woeful state of the trains in anglosphere countries as you are. Expert planners come up with perfectly sensible and affordable proposals;https://voakl.net/2024/01/30/enter-japan-inter-city-trains-between-auckland-hamilton-and-tauranga-yes-please/(6/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #AjynaPQ8TZ3tSCBvKS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:25:36Z
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... and the neoliberals in control of the state either waste the money one endless meetings and reports ("left"/"liberal" flavour), or just defund them ("right"/"conservative" flavour). It doesn't have to be this way, and I don't believe we need a China-style command economy to make it happen. Maybe the bottom-up co-op approach that successfully electrified and brought telecom lines to large areas of rural US is the way to go?(7/7)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ajyo2pyRLRS3upnCQS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:30:44Z
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@p> I don't plan to establish a definite proposition: I'm listening to what you have to say, then I'm saying things that I think of saying when I hear them. It's not goal-directed, I'm just talking to youThat's not an argument, it's just contradiction! : P#DadJokes(1/2)@stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyoPq6Z1XFoyyYp4C by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T06:34:54Z
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Seriously though, we don't disagree here @p. You're just talking to me, but unlike a lot of people here, you're willing to engage with the logic of what I'm saying (or lack thereof), rather than just blowing rasberries at me if it doesn't match your biases.This is a good thing!So if I say;A = toastB = tomatoA+B = a cheese toastieThis forms a logical "argument", if a faulty one. That's all I'm getting at.(2/2)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjyqjE7KAe92rjHxUe by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T07:00:18Z
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@p> Well, that's not what I'd consider myselfNow who's taking tongue-in-cheek comments seriously ; )All fair points about the stats stuff. There is a need for stats sites that collect and display the whole known verse, rather than just the parts we can rely on not to scare off newbies. I would like fediverse.party to link to any that exist. If you're willing to open an issue, I commit to engaging with it;https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediparty/issues@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ajys2KciIwnqV6e1Ts by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-16T07:15:28Z
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@p > you can't rely on a near missI Agree. There in no plausible scenario in which the near miss was planned. So EITHER the intention was to kill him, and they accidentally missed him, OR the intention was to fire into the crowd roughly near him, and they accidentally hit him.I feel like the 'speculating about possible shooter motives' aspect of the thread has reached the circling the toilet bowl stage. Let's flush it and move on for now, eh? @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AjytpFirPkufRdPXKS by p
2024-07-16T07:35:32.867444Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey > they also register you when you get a driver's licenceOh, yeah, that reminds me, the kid's parents might be relevant if they were there when he was getting his license.> Or in many cases they have open primaries which allow anyone to vote however. That was what the "Some states allow you to vote in whichever party's primary you want" part was. :leslienielsensmokin:
(DIR) Post #Ajyu0Ni03wD7OmJame by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T07:37:31.619873Z
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@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ajyu6w7D3Jc7qXESRc by thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com
2024-07-16T07:38:37.102950Z
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Yeah, PA is a closed primary state. Which for those outside of the US that means you have to register for that party to vote in the primary. It was a widely used tactic for Democrats to vote for Haley as Republicans this election, and even TV shows endorsed this idea.
(DIR) Post #AjyuMXPkeq1Js4LQ6C by p
2024-07-16T07:41:33.797387Z
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@strypey @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I do tend to assume that anyone who leaps to blaming a leftist for the shooting is a supporter of the person shot,I say "probably", you know, and if it had been Biden getting shot, I would have assumed the same: somebody that doesn't like Biden, so probably someone that is "right-wing" ("left"/"right" are inappropriate terms). Who really hates Trump?> I aporeciate your consistently respectful and thoughtful replies.Oh, not at all, you've been delightful, it's a fun conversation, but I'm basically always like :facesofautism: this :autismapproved:.
(DIR) Post #AjyuX58K98fvLPDjjU by p
2024-07-16T07:43:28.133181Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey > I'd make Dark Jeffery Cliffton look like Mitt Romney in contrast for about five months before I did anything... interesting. :nixonsmug: My first reaction was to laugh.:nixonsplaining: My second reaction was to wonder if this process has already started.
(DIR) Post #Ajyv2Anl7boDtwQXLs by p
2024-07-16T07:49:05.272746Z
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@strypey @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero > See my pinned posts.Oh, I broke pinned posts here. I don't plan to implement them, either.> They loathe me, and the instance that I'm on, for similar reasons to the ones you describe ; )Ah, another member of the club. I used to joke that they were walling themselves in rather than walling everyone else out but it descended into self-parody at some point.> Eg @stux has permanently blocked me over some minor disagreement over the party line.Well, that's unfortunate; stux is nice and used to be more affable, but the politics have a way of draining that out of a person.
(DIR) Post #Ajyv8tzC2XjHm9z3ZI by p
2024-07-16T07:50:18.235786Z
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@0 @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux Ha, he's an interesting guy.
(DIR) Post #AjyvYPnAvG73f0WnTM by p
2024-07-16T07:54:54.888747Z
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@Humpleupagus @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I thought murdering your ex-girlfriend is how you get on the fedi.I think "becoming the ex-girlfriend" is an equally popular option here.anon-sama.jpgbut_were_both_boys_anonkun.png
(DIR) Post #AjyvimwdhEk6MYtvzk by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-16T07:56:46.042459Z
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And then there's those who become their own ex-girlfriend. RIP. š
(DIR) Post #AjyvsJ6zTBaejWHX2e by p
2024-07-16T07:58:30.593229Z
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@ins0mniak @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux > A guy with an ultra high IQ is gonna go places that many think are crazy That part's true, it'd be weirder if he was fully hinged. :tedklol:> I mean we would have been morons to let Nazi scientists go to the Soviet UnionYeah but we didn't have to let them give LSD to schizos.> Eugene Debs the socialist was campaigning for president from his jail cell and left wingers champion him endlessly. Oh, yeah, I mean, him complaining about the draft was a landmark free speech case. (Woodrow Wilson should have been hanged.)> Elvis had a mugshot and hes the most American motherfucker ever. Ha, he also convinced Nixon to issue him a DEA badge.
(DIR) Post #AjywS9mdd5B6E8rARs by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T08:04:58.281519Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Which cmon...that's hilarious bro
(DIR) Post #AjyxUBkROcKCqyMTCK by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T08:16:31.866211Z
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@p @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Yo might be heading you way
(DIR) Post #Ajz35AWRPqm5XMGYd6 by p
2024-07-16T09:19:16.161281Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero > As an anarchist, surely you know that "antifa" and "left" are categories that overlap, but are far from the same thing.Well, I said he was "probably a commie", you said "probably not a leftist"; you've used the terms interchangeably.They can call themselves whatever they want and I, like Eazy-E before me, will call a spade a spade and get paid.:eazye: Semantics are a spook anyway. :stirner:> There are also plenty who don't.Antifa is an attempt to rebrand commies to sound less gulag-friendly. I don't know of anyone using the Antifaā¢ brand that are not also ancoms (let alone a large enough number that they can no longer be dismissed as rounding error). They love clipping words, the Comintern probably mandates it. I think they should put quotes around the "an" in "ancom" but I'm not going to argue terminology.How they self-identify isn't relevant to me. The primary activity of European anarchists and socialists has been and continues to be bitter arguments over terminology. Lenin is writing a tortured essay trying to explain how owning a cat isn't counterrevolutionary. You know the "USSR wasn't real communism" meme, but have you read Mussolini's last interview before he was assassinated? The interviewer asks him about the USSR and Mussolini responds by dismissing the question, on the grounds that the USSR "isn't real socialism". We've got this doodle Engels made, it's the source of the famous caricature of Max Stirner, but the actual drawing is some sort of shouting match, a bunch of useless dickheads that are more insistent on terminology. I was innoculated against this at a very young age when, some time around the time I saw my thousandth tedious essay about how one thing or another was "not punk rock" in a poorly xeroxed zine, I realized that it was a complete goddamn waste of time and that if you let them, these people will spend all of their time on it. Fine, let them, as long as they don't do it near me. "What is punk rock? It's not music or the liberation of music from the labels and the radio stations, DIY ethos, a culture of participants instead of bystanders, it's about none of that: punk rock is about arguing incessantly about the definition of 'punk rock' and the music is getting in the way, please unplug those amps until you have all understood and accepted the error of your ways and started using the words in a way that I approve."The terms that I use are for me to use. I don't self-identify as an idiot but people call me an idiot without my permission. I don't need anyone's permission to call them a commie.engels_doodle.jpg
(DIR) Post #Ajz3JT2JNUiJ0lzWJU by p
2024-07-16T09:21:51.212542Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I know people who've done vaguely similar things here, but it's not common AFAIK.I think it's got to work differently in a parliamentary system, and there common case is apparently a hybrid system where you vote for candidates *and* a party list. Until maybe a decade ago, California allowed you to select your ballot independently of your registration.
(DIR) Post #Ajz3Tn4Zjmnk37yMhE by p
2024-07-16T09:23:43.153649Z
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@subpanel @strypey @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero This appears to be a non-sequitur.
(DIR) Post #Ajz5AUI9XZV6CvFMXI by p
2024-07-16T09:42:38.443740Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > As for the Orange Felon thing, I refuse to name him in public because I try not to feed trolls.Ha, good luck with that, but if it was merely an attempt to avoid the name, a neutral term would suffice.> It's not illogical, but that's not the same thing. His actions were definitely unhinged.Different set of ethical axioms. If you replaced your axioms with his, then it would be difficult to say he was unhinged. This is no different in principle from what I said earlier: if you think Trump is Hitler, assassination sounds much more reasonable. If you don't think we live in a society :shiggy:, then how bad is it *really* to behave in an anti-social way?Society is an abstract thing; you do not need to hallucinate in order to perceive society as vastly different than a person sitting next to you and watching the same society. I can say I disagree with his conclusions and methods, but I can't say he was crazy.
(DIR) Post #Ajz5WtOYt4wkR1varo by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-07-16T09:46:38.414293Z
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@p @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero "ethics" is always a weird argument because if i'm a deontologist and you're a consequentialist then depending on my duty we will never agree despite arguing some outcome is ingroup/outgroup ethical.
(DIR) Post #Ajz8EaRCvnmKI280xM by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-16T10:16:58.086523Z
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Ethics get complicated there too -- if you're a consequentialist, do you go by the actual consequences or the intended consequences? If the former then what is ethical can only be chosen in retrospect so you're trying to predict what will be ethical by trying to predict future outcomes. If it's the latter, then incorrect consequences can justify overall wrong actions as justified even if successful implementation will always result in negative outcomes because you're just wrong.That's where imo you do need a base of deontological ethics, hard lines you don't cross, because otherwise you can find yourself either never knowing what is ethical until after the fact leading you down a rabbit hole of betting against God predicting the future, or you can break your whole ethical system by biasing what you think the consequences will be unconsciously. You can the consider consequentialist perspective for more complicated ideas once you stop yourself from doing things you'll regret later if you get the consequences wrong or sometimes even if you're right -- if you become an ethical monster you might be right but you still have to live with yourself afterwards.
(DIR) Post #Ajz8pg1X7rrSKRnzG4 by p
2024-07-16T10:23:41.986100Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Remembering that the cases in the staged column are only those someone managed to prove."You can't prove it wasn't" is not what I'd call sound reasoning. "If this were true and this were true then we could say that" is one thing, but "This was staged, because it's possible, and for all you know, everything is staged, you can't prove that Hinkley intended to kill Reagan, Hinkley could have just been makin' shit up about Jodie Foster because he was a deep-cover Soviet sleeper agent."> But even if you're right, you've quietly conceded my point, that staged assasination is hardly unprecedented.I never said that it was unprecedented; you are dismissing possibilities, I'm not. I am saying that it is more likely that it's what it looks like. You're saying it's definitely not what it looks like, and I keep saying it's possible that it is not what it looks like, but it's likelier that it *is*.Occam's Razor. The guy shot at Trump because he wanted Trump dead.I am absolutely dismissing the possibilities that contradict the plain facts: if you are trying to *pretend* to assassinate someone, you make for damn sure that your bullets are way more than an inch from his brain. Absent some extremely compelling evidence, some hard facts, it can be assumed that the shooter intended to kill Trump. You'd get a rifle that would be accurate to within an inch at that range. You'd get a scope. Not only that, but if Trump was in on it, you'd have him keep his head still when it was time. You wouldn't leave it up to a teenage kid with no military training. Crooks fired in a panic, as well: he had been spotted and a cop was climbing up to the roof on another cop's shoulder, Crooks saw his hands and had aimed his rifle at the cop, the cop slipped and broke his ankle, Crooks pointed the rifle back at Trump and started firing, at which point he was killed by counter-snipers.So, nothing makes sense unless he was trying to actually kill Trump. From there, the likely case is that he was opposed to Trump and believed that Trump's election would be a disaster. There are a lot of other possibilities: perhaps he was hired. (I hope they got a refund.) Perhaps he was MKULTRA'd. Perhaps he was a hard-line accelerationist and believed that killing Trump would hasten "the boog". Maybe he lost a bet and Crooks is so dang honorable that he traded his skull's structural integrity to preserve his moral integrity. But "he wasn't trying to kill Trump" is so overwhelmingly unlikely that it's not worth considering until there's a reason: too many things fail to add up if he wasn't.
(DIR) Post #Ajz8y9wPmGJ5QtSKJ6 by p
2024-07-16T10:25:13.965136Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Never mind, Semaphore can't interpret those anyway : PNot a client I have used; if it doesn't show the emchochies, you're really missing out.:zz55::zz55::zz55::zz15::zz11::zzcc::zz0c::zz55::zzc1::zzcc::zzcc::zzfc::zzff::zz2b::zz54::zz55::zz45::zz34::zz33::zzff::zzef::zz8a::zz51::zz55::zz55::zz55::zzf0::zz00::zz33::zz33::zzce::zz18::zz55::zz05::zz88::zz28::zza2::zz88::zz40::zz54::zz55::zz45::zzc2::zz2c::zzaa::zzaa::zz18::zz55::zz55::zz15::zz38::zz03::zzaa::zz8a::zz82::zz51::zz55::zz45::zz44::zz44::zz44::zz44::zz44::zz44:
(DIR) Post #Ajz90dhW6PtUJHfbSy by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-07-16T10:25:39.511736Z
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@sj_zero consequentialism has become the default because communism pushed utilitarianism hard.virtue ethics have been dead for a long time. deontologicals seem to still exist, but we're rare :ablobcatderpy:
(DIR) Post #Ajz94z8QLyFhwdKOFk by istvan@poa.st
2024-07-16T10:26:27.497568Z
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@strypey @p @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero You generally donāt stage an assassination that will actually get you killed.You would either want to not be hit, or at least take the hit in a limb thatās far enough away that the bullet wonāt be bouncing shredding organs.You wouldnāt stage it so that you will take a bullet in your skull if the wind kicks up or you move 0.5cm.That would be really dumb.
(DIR) Post #Ajz9Dx3LSmYU5tEBWq by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-16T10:28:03.057381Z
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And what's really interesting is that the commies themselves refute themselves. Western civilization produced a kind of utopia with universal suffrage, limited suffering, vast material wealth, and virtually no war. Despite that, the commies claim the path to utopia was immoral therefore the end result is immoral.
(DIR) Post #Ajz9o0QKPNwAyOAb9E by p
2024-07-16T10:34:36.167978Z
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@ins0mniak @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux @teratology I hate the TSA and they have ruined airplanes for me.Watched an episode of Columbo. A guy is in San Diego, he wants to go to Los Angeles: he just goes to the airport and a plane leaves every 30 minutes, he pays and gets on. It was like taking a bus. That could be us but Bush playin'.If a high-speed rail can do that, then I'll take it. High-speed rail is about as likely as abolishing the TSA, though.The Subhumans - it's gonna get worse.mp3
(DIR) Post #Ajz9rfzGKhlEkTGCcC by icedquinn@blob.cat
2024-07-16T10:35:14.458540Z
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@sj_zero we did but the propserity was built on hiding the slavery somewhere else.i think stalin and lenins folley was obsessing over "match and overtake" the west, which was dependent on a permanent underclass, using a socialism concept that is supposed to not have an underclass. a nontrivial amount of their problems ultimately come from trying to wring more blood out of a stump if only one more person got sent to jail, rather than idkmanaging expectations
(DIR) Post #AjzB82ING7aSWXZ3rc by teratology@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-16T10:49:24.883291Z
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@p @ins0mniak @strypey @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero I feel like the metro here has gotten better so I'm down to get a pass, will let you know if I get secondhand meth. I wish we has a better system like the bart in SF.
(DIR) Post #AjzHohke7H2Wz7W9jc by p
2024-07-16T12:04:22.150141Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology Instead of bashing out 80 posts, I'm doing one reply to the 80 posts. > A common tactic in legislatures is for an incoming executive to loudly and publicly rejects a policy package, then quietly slip most of its practical proposals into other legislation.I was here. I saw what happened here. What you are describing, with no citations, is a fantasy event that did not occur. We rejoined some accords that we had (wisely) bailed on previously. It is a really long walk from "Oh, it was implemented all right!" to "They definitely snuck in some of it." Green New Deal: "20,000,000 union jobs". Nope. "No more drilling for oil!" Nope. "No more nuclear power!" The opposite, we're adding capacity.> We saw this in Aotearoa in 2020,I was not there. I did not see. Here is not there.> But the Biden administration tried to slip so many of its short-medium term provisions into everywhere elseLong road from "Yes, it was implemented, and it saved you, you'd be dead and eating bugs by now!" > jacobin.comThat is not a source; it is an ideologically driven Marxist version of the National Review. It's editorials and opinion pieces and essays, it's commentary. I'm not trying to put it down: this is how the publication describes itself: "Jacobin is a leading voice of the American left, offering socialist perspectives on politics, economics, and culture." It's fine if you want socialist commentary, but not if you want information. It's like getting your news indirectly from memes.They are also scared shitless of Trump. The big Bernie Sanders publication doesn't just roll with neolib (when he's lucid) Biden and his cop VP (she's not a bootlicker, she's the goddamn boot) for no reason. They're propping up the guy that is not Trump during an election year and quietly papering over the fact that he is effectively George W. Bush's fifth term in office and we've started overseas adventurism again.> From a wide range of places, just like any other self-respecting anarchist. I read, I listen to podcasts, etc, from as many different angles as I can.This is still vague. The only one you have named is the Jacobin, and you really should not.> Maybe the bottom-up co-op approachNo. The issue is that the college students and the people trying to become rich and famous come and swamp the cities, and they vote, and they see a last name and don't go "Isn't that the guy that barely escaped indictment for rampant corruption two years ago?" and they all for the campaign and they don't recognize the astroturf and then they vote.> that successfully electrified and brought telecom lines to large areas of rural US is the way to go?Fiction. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Electrification_Act . Very top-down, the non-Green New Deal.> You're just talking to me, but unlike a lot of people here, you're willing to engage with the logic of what I'm saying (or lack thereof), rather than just blowing rasberries at me if it doesn't match your biases.Well, thanks, that's nice of you to say, I'm just usually genuinely curious about what people think, and for all the "edgelords they just wanna say slurs" characterization that this part of fedi gets, I think if people aren't worried that they'll get banned for an idea, interesting conversations tend to be the norm. I do think, you know, if it keeps expanding in scope, it'll be two or three months before we've approached a resolution to any of the sub-threads.chadburger.jpgcofetits.jpegtemporallobe.jpetrade_offer--roads.jpgtrain.jpegtrainpaste.jpgtrains.jpgtrump_killin.jpe
(DIR) Post #AjzIJA1bYoQDMRyMHw by p
2024-07-16T12:09:52.408426Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero Oh, yeah? That'd be cool, appreciated, but I don't need a link; it is mainly that when doing something like counting the number of accounts on fedi, or the number of Pleroma servers, right? I'll see about filing an issue later, but mainly to have it use the real data. Like, "There is one Pleroma server that follows our moderation policy and that has opted into our service" is the number on the page but it says there is one Pleroma server; there are nearly 1,100.
(DIR) Post #AjzIRFNZXMgAHf6TaK by p
2024-07-16T12:11:20.093498Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero Defense council has no objections, I'll stipulate.
(DIR) Post #AjzJMI6s3bwXG7Ua6y by p
2024-07-16T12:21:38.653622Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey Pepsi, sure. It's better if it comes with a Libretto 100CT.libretto100ct.jpg
(DIR) Post #AjzOI6wA9efjDhJGMq by p
2024-07-16T13:16:54.833602Z
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@ins0mniak @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux Hilarious and darkly ironic. All shook up, indeed.
(DIR) Post #AjzPphKrwlYncORfc0 by p
2024-07-16T13:34:11.338488Z
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@icedquinn @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey Yeah, and I don't like to give the idea that I'm a moral relativist, but in terms of sanity, right, you have to evaluate sanity in terms of what a person can be expected to know.
(DIR) Post #AjzQ0o6990AvmFr8oy by p
2024-07-16T13:36:11.793868Z
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@teratology @ins0mniak @jeffcliff @sj_zero @strypey @stux > will let you know if I get secondhand meth.And where. (Asking for a friend.)
(DIR) Post #AjzQAch2P0wpIjnBjc by istvan@poa.st
2024-07-16T13:37:57.789170Z
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@p @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology Green New Deal and Project 2025 both make a lot more sense if you add one line to the top of each:āDear Santa, I have been a very good congress critter this year. For Christmas I would likeā¦ā
(DIR) Post #Ajzg2Ri8wsBMBsQrSq by SilverDeth
2024-07-16T16:35:46.391347Z
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@p @ins0mniak @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey I love old chonky hardware.
(DIR) Post #AjzgIkd8NJtTV6rdWC by SilverDeth
2024-07-16T16:38:43.196157Z
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@p @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey Mwhahahaha oh certainly not! I just want a reasonably priced coke.Heh.image.png
(DIR) Post #AjzhzS3TPenkIU6pFY by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T16:57:37.459332Z
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@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero If i could fuck that computer I would bro
(DIR) Post #Ajzi4ovrmbZyhK6x7o by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-16T16:58:03.260709Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @p @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero Computers are for eating, not sexing.
(DIR) Post #AjziNhOi1NqOpabVWC by ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce
2024-07-16T17:02:00.607099Z
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@0 @SilverDeth @p @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero mmm yeah actually both kinda give me a boner tbh
(DIR) Post #AjzjZMgKy2Zo0myZYO by p
2024-07-16T17:15:20.245006Z
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@SilverDeth @ins0mniak @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey This is a palmtop!
(DIR) Post #Ajzji6veuCsZlGJSgS by p
2024-07-16T17:16:55.090316Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey To this day, half of these stupid fast food places will not server you a breakfast sandwich after 9 a.m. They never listen.
(DIR) Post #AjzjqDddqOLCt2kfw0 by p
2024-07-16T17:18:23.005810Z
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@ins0mniak @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey :terryshock:
(DIR) Post #AjzjroX0A8qzb7PGpU by p
2024-07-16T17:18:40.306843Z
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@0 @ins0mniak @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypeyeatcomputerEATCOMPUTER.jpe
(DIR) Post #AjzqYkdZ7G2jhIKliy by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-16T18:33:39.257423Z
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@p @J @0 @not_br549 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Bulgaria is better than all of the countries you mentioned
(DIR) Post #AjzqfmQAsiOZG1QENs by 0@gh0st.live
2024-07-16T18:34:23.739333Z
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@meso @J @p @not_br549 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero Yes, yes, but where is it?
(DIR) Post #Ajzqt6eEzQRRkqM7zE by p
2024-07-16T18:37:20.427915Z
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@meso @0 @J @jeffcliff @kirby @not_br549 @sj_zero @stux Yeah, but do you know where it is?
(DIR) Post #Ajzr84xTYREGrEUao4 by meso@the.asbestos.cafe
2024-07-16T18:40:02.088981Z
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@p @J @0 @not_br549 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero i am literally here in it right now and came back to it from greece today i have the highest grades in geography in my class
(DIR) Post #AjzrDB7K5ErrPHWv1k by Komnene@cawfee.club
2024-07-16T18:40:40.738050Z
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@p @J @0 @not_br549 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @meso
(DIR) Post #AjzrnJaA5UuA5OFZy4 by p
2024-07-16T18:47:29.929449Z
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@meso @0 @J @jeffcliff @kirby @not_br549 @sj_zero @stux Yeah, I mean, I can tell you I'm in Los Angeles but this is a different skill than being able to find it on the map.
(DIR) Post #AjzvTZDod7tucGdYvY by not_br549@jollyville.net
2024-07-16T19:28:44.475295Z
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had to look it up . . was thinking eastern Europe somewhere. it's bigger than i thought it was.
(DIR) Post #AjzxSbfuDwnJqKRhk8 by p
2024-07-16T19:50:59.173173Z
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@not_br549 @Komnene @J @0 @kirby @stux @jeffcliff @sj_zero @meso If you look it up, that proves the point.
(DIR) Post #Ak0RLz1e0Q6GrTN6Ui by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-17T01:25:54Z
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@p > I broke pinned posts here. I don't plan to implement them, eitherWhy's that? I find them very useful. Eg keeping these posts handy to link whenever I'm accused by partisans of supporting the Evil Other.https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110800961729443606https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110789459980665321> I used to joke that they were walling themselves in rather than walling everyone else outI've posted Rorschach memes along similar lines on several occasions ; )(1/2?)@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak0RQ2r3i7MntcMCyu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-17T01:26:38Z
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@p> that's unfortunate; stux is niceI was disappointed. Especially because after years of positive interactions, they went straight for a permanent block when we had one slightly heated disagreement.(2/2)@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak0RqRzqrA4pOw3qSW by subpanel@mstdn.social
2024-07-17T01:31:25Z
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@p @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zeroOpening this in the browser is for some sort of download./neg
(DIR) Post #Ak1THjO8b3dAGtx8U4 by p
2024-07-17T13:22:17.571989Z
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@strypey @samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Why's that? I find them very useful.They're worse than useless. Some frontends *still* have difficulty coping with trying to scroll past a dozen pinned posts. If it doesn't fit in your bio, a link to a static page suffices, surely. They're also responsible for a large number of actual bugs on the backend.There are two legitimate styles of operating the fedi apparatus: "conversation" and "curation". (The other styles, "spam" and "agitprop" and "data mining" and "grooming" and things like that, exploitative uses of the network, are not really worth addressing.) I think, you know, it's nice that fedi can accommodate both, but the "curation" people keep demanding features that make it harder to have conversations. Pinned posts are curation, most of the curation-oriented features ("delete and redraft" comes to mind) are useless or annoying. We have websites, we have wikis, we have blogs, > Eg keeping these posts handy to link whenever I'm accused by partisans of supporting the Evil Other.I don't think reasoning with people like that has historically been helpful, but if I'm going to try it anyway, writing is thinking, talking is thinking, communication is the substrate of humanity's distributed computation system, but subjectively, it's only interesting if I listen to what they have to say and then I respond; a canned answer means I'm not thinking very hard about it, and may as well not waste my time. There are questions I'm sick of thinking of, things I never cared about, and then I don't mind a canned response: https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html . There are also things that I have thought very hard about and discussed at length and revisiting the very basic initial parts of the argument is boring: https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/what-is-freedom-of-speech.html . I don't need a pinned post for those, I can just provide a link to a blog.
(DIR) Post #Ak1TPwGcb73cWzLow4 by p
2024-07-17T13:23:46.578168Z
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@subpanel @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero What?
(DIR) Post #Ak4POVfmAk7xQ03lDs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:22:44Z
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@p>Ā I don't know of anyone using the Antifaā¢ brand that are not also ancomsMaybe that reflects the limits of your social network rather than the extent of the social networks that produce antifa activity? Very likely it varies from country to country too. In my experience there have been at least as many tankies involved as left-anarchists.(1/3)@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4POXOpkhlOm29G5o by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:22:45Z
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@p>Ā I think they should put quotes around the "an" in "ancom" but I'm not going to argue terminologyThese days there are a lot of tankies who call themselves anarcho-communists for some reason. But that doesn't mean anarchist communists are all tankies. Maybe because their real numbers are tiny?Akin to how fascists like to call themselves libertarians when their numbers are small. But that doesn't mean all libertarians are fascists. Right?(2/3)@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4POYOA4gotqEqEgS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:22:46Z
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@p> I don't self-identify as an idiot but people call me an idiot without my permission.Ā Ā I don't need anyone's permission to call them a commie You're implicitly acknowledging that "commie" is an intentionally vague term of abuse, like "idiot", not a reflection of real world political beliefs or allegiances ; )(3/3)@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4Q96zVkvVUToVoZs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:31:13Z
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@p> a hybrid system where you vote for candidates *and* a party listCorrect. It's called MMP (Mixed Member Proportional) and we imported it from the Germans. It's better than FPP (First Past the Post), what we used to have, and US and UK still use. But we also have STV (Single Transferable Vote, ie ranked voting) for some local government. Having observed elections run using all 3, I think STV is by far the best.@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4RVLDDf9IEuX5UwK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:46:22Z
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@p> if it was merely an attempt to avoid the name, a neutral term would sufficeSure. I could just say Convicted Felon, which would be a neutral statement of fact. But I don't think trolls holding political office is a neutral thing and the terms I choose reflect that.Please don't read this as a hearty endorsement for Mumbling Joe. This is not a choice between a Pinochet and an Allende. But faced with a binary choice that includes Pinochet, you pick the other one.@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4RVQWttP0VP1KmoK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:46:22Z
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@p> I can say I disagree with his conclusions and methods, but I can't say he was crazyFair enough. That being such an un-PC term to use negatively these days ; )What we agree on, for the purposes of the jumping off point for this tangent, is that he worked alone. But this is the exception in organised political violence, not the rule.@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4RgQcpsQzGsvM9kO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:48:23Z
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@sj_zero> Western civilization producedhttps://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-there-never-was-a-west@icedquinn
(DIR) Post #Ak4Rzf3eRQhd9H4P2G by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-18T23:51:50Z
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@icedquinn>i think stalin and lenins folley was obsessing over "match and overtake" the westA class analysis! What a breath of fresh air. I find nothing to disagree with here, but I just wanted to point out exactly why I like that post.@sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4Ugc8VNby6RnwwBE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:21:52Z
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Me:> the cases in the staged column are only those someone managed to prove... is a simple statement of fact. All of these cases were on the unstaged side of the ledger, until they were proven to be staged.@p> you are dismissing possibilitiesLike the possibility that this one of those?> You're saying it's definitely not what it looks likeCan you quote an example? All of my posts on this have been about how likely I think possibilities are and why.(1/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4UgdQGb3loRBGdVI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:21:53Z
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@p> I am absolutely dismissing the possibilities that contradict the plain factsYour post them goes on to list a bunch of claims, from the authorities and the news media, as "facts". Unless and until these claims can be independently verified, they are *assumptions*.I recently spoke to a mostly apolitical friend who scoffs at tinfoil hat stuff. They mentioned, without prompting, that taken as a whole, these news media claims about the shooter seem pretty fishy.(2/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4UgeS4looNd57axk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:21:53Z
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@p> the likely case is that he was opposed to Trump and believed that Trump's election would be a disasterEven accepting these assumptions, that doesn't rule out an alienated Republican, or an apolitical independent for whom something about this guy is beyond the pale. Timothy Synder wrote a good piece about how history tells us the obvious assumption here isn't always the right one;https://snyder.substack.com/p/political-violence(3/3)@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4UohJU11R2ovwHLc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:23:26Z
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@p> if it doesn't show the emchochies, you're really missing outSeems like FediLab can't either. Maybe they are custom emoji that have to be installed on the server I'm using to work?@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4VEUm9FjSjSseFWa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:28:12Z
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@istvan> You generally donāt stage an assassination that will actually get you killedThis thread has explored a wide range of potential motives and the types of political actors who might be so motivated. Not all of which depend on the target remaining alive to be successful. Martyrs, after all, are often much more politically useful than living leaders. Also, if killing the target was the goal, there are a wide range of possible motives;https://snyder.substack.com/p/political-violence@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4WCdajbX2UBKzHwu by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:39:05Z
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@lnxw37b2> Governor Gavin NewsomThe one who, after finishing his degree;" .. founded the boutique winery PlumpJack Group with billionaire heir and family friend Gordon Getty as an investor."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_NewsomPeople like this holding most of the high-ranking positions in the Democrats is proof positive they do *not* represent the left. If US elections had ranked choice voting, the left would put up its own candidates instead of endorsing pod people like Newsom as "lesser evil".@p
(DIR) Post #Ak4WdILeh6A27Fe5RI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T00:43:54Z
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@lnxw37b2> I tell everyone I know that Gov Newsom is a dangerous idiot whose actions have cost California's future taxpayers billions of dollars and placed many current taxpayers in the outlaw list*, but once he won the recall election, no one dares to question anything he says or doesThe more things change...https://video.liberta.vip/w/adf806fb-4c7a-4f1a-a68c-263783d6feb8@p
(DIR) Post #Ak4ax3p4oCicfs5Uau by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:32:11Z
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> That is not a sourceOK, *all* media have biases, including whether or not they care about correcting against their biases. The meaning of any piece of media can't be understood without reading it through the lens of those biases.Can we agree on that? Because I consider it part of media literacy 101;(1/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ax5lba588hgTkSe by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:32:11Z
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@p> it is an ideologically driven Marxist version of the National ReviewJacobin are more Fabian than Marxist IMHO, but either way, their default position is to attack Dem candidates as centre-right, and indistinguishable from their GoP opponent. So when hard left publications like this are taking sides at all, that's a data point in itself. It goes against their core ideology and their usual MO.(2/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ax6lzq72NpBfZi4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:32:11Z
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Now, Jacobin are *not* fans of Biden. At all. See;https://jacobin.com/2024/03/biden-weapons-israel-gaza-palestineSo no matter how much they've decided they want the Orange Felon to lose, I very much doubt they'd publish lies on Biden's behalf. If only because it would risk tanking their credibility with their own audience.Even the editorial line of the piece I linked is hardly cheerleading. More like damning him with faint praise.(3/?)@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ax7vFZC29OB0Tlw by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:32:12Z
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That piece lays out a number of policies the Biden regime either passed, or tried to, which were equivalent to those gathered in the Green New Deal. It gives a lot of facts and figures about their consequences.Putting aside any interpretation wrapped around those factual claims, can you point to any that are provably false? In a way that makes Biden look better.(4/?)@p@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4bAbEbtaf841UENM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:34:14Z
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@p> This is still vagueIf you want a more specific answer, ask a more specific question. Unless you want me to send you a copy of the histories of my web browsers, podcast app, etc? ; )(5/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ctNXHm35aYz8cZU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:54:00Z
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@p> Instead of bashing out 80 posts, I'm doing one reply to the 80 postsOne downside of this is a tendency to reply to chunks of text out of their context, putting the lives of strawmen at risk. For example...(6/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ctSZb2suOBbG2Mq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:54:00Z
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Me:> I don't believe we need a China-style command economy to make it happen. Maybe the bottom-up co-op approach that successfully electrified and brought telecom lines to large areas of rural US is the way to go?@p;> fiction... Very top-down, the non-Green New Deal My comment was a self-contained tangent from the Green New Deal discussion, but by folding it all together, you've fact-checked a claim I never made.(7/?)@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4ctVaPqILXX0fEYq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T01:54:01Z
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For the record, I agree the Biden approach to infrastructure is...@p> Very top-down... resulting in exactly the kind of dysfunction you'd expect (Newsom slowing it down etc). Top-down dysfunction you see when in corporate attempts (eg DataFarming platforms, Melon Husk companies) when it's left to the market.What I suggested is a third option, with a number of successful historical precedents driven by rural US citizens, serving their own needs.(8/?) @jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4dyAd9HdHxwKjH7o by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T02:06:03Z
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@p> all the "edgelords they just wanna say slurs" characterization that this part of fedi getsGiven some of the slurs posted by rasberry blowers in replies to this thread, it's a simple fact that a chunk of the freeze peach verse is edgelords who just wanna say slurs. I'm not the target demigraphic. So I'm willing to expose myself to people with brainworms in order to make holes in the walls of my echo chamber. But I don't fault anyone for deciding not to.@jeffcliff @sj_zero @teratology
(DIR) Post #Ak4eVLlmt9Qs2naifo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T02:12:06Z
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@p> "There is one Pleroma server that follows our moderation policy and that has opted into our service" is the number on the page but it says there is one Pleroma server; there are nearly 1,100I agree this serves no one. At least not without prominent disclaimers about the sampling method. Ideally also with instructions for accessing the unfiltered data.As some clever clogs once said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics ; )@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4hh2rbJ5yekFZvvs by istvan@poa.st
2024-07-19T02:47:52.008295Z
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@strypey @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero Im not sure if context is missing. This was in response to the idea Trump arranged the assassination attempt on himself.With no successor, killing himself would be a bad idea. It would hand all power to his political opponents because they would be free to engineer any story for his base. He would be a martyr, but it would be one to be used however the Republican Party wishes, and most likely that would conflict with Trumpās desires.If the goal was to arrange an attempt on your own life to increase your political capital, you wouldnāt set it up so the shot taken is more likely to kill you than not. There is a whole body of places less dangerous to be shot than your head. If it clipped him in the shoulder or the arm, I might be more sympathetic to this idea.That he would be dead without the head tilt or even if the wind just blew a little harder that second is why I find the idea of Trump staging his own assassination to be not at all credible.The idea of a crazy person and security failure is much easier to believe.The idea of it being staged by his political opponents requires extraordinary evidence, and even if there was such evidence I would not be qualified to examine it. I donāt want to consider that unless concrete proof from people qualified to assess it emerges.
(DIR) Post #Ak4jz9aZF0h6iwNF9k by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-19T03:13:31.020388Z
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I've seen a lot of people on the left making the claim that the assassination attempt on Donald Trump was a setup, a false flag operation intended to help him win the next presidential election.There's a few things that really make the conspiracy theory a less beautiful hypothesis than it could be.1. The Democrats *have* been calling Trump Hitler and saying he supports neo nazis and white supremacists for going on 10 years now, which supports the idea that some whackjob could get it in his head that he'd be lauded as a hero for killing Trump rather than getting a bullet to the face rather than this being some big conspiracy2. The Democrats *have* been saying Trump winning will mean the end of democracy, again supporting the idea that some whackjob believed them3. The Democrats *have* supported political violence explicitly for years, in particular the summer of love riots where the current sitting vice president went on national television and said "they're not gonna stop [...] and they should not stop", and fundraised to pay the bail of violent rioters to get them back on the street, and Democratic DAs refused to prosecute ultimately anyway. This supports the idea that whackjobs would believe they'd be supported for specific political violence, lowering the psychological bar for engaging in such acts independently of the need for a conspiracy4. The secret service works for Joe Biden's federal government, making the idea of Joe Biden's government secretly plotting to get Trump elected by faking an assassination attempt look like left wing QAnon where Trump is secretly still the President or something -- it doesn't make any sense that the other party's government would do that5. Even if the secret service worked for Trump's federal government, it is highly documented that many people in the federal government were actively working against Trump because they hate him, so the idea that a government filled with people who hate him would help get him elected and absolutely nobody would rat them out seems far-fetched. They're not going to just stand by while an actual conspiracy to fake an assassination that also resulted in the death of an innocent person and the critical injury of two others occurs.
(DIR) Post #Ak4mbVZY9evBojJZ56 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T03:42:45Z
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@p > I feel like the 'speculating about possible shooter motives' aspect of the thread has reached the circling the toilet bowl stageI'm aware I'm still circling that bowl in some of my posts today. Damn those floaters!But seriously, I'm catching up on a few days worth of replies, after putting them aside to finish a piece of writing on a mostly unrelated local controversy. I've tried to reply on this subject only where it adds something useful.@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak4n5fpUaEnMJh9hYG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-19T03:48:19Z
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@p > half of these stupid fast food places will not server you a breakfast sandwich after 9 a.mI've never understood the logic of this. Unless its one of those marketing psychology mind games where they think you're more likely to buy if there's an imminent cut-off time?@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak5Okpp41yC9UERgO0 by p
2024-07-19T10:50:22.376059Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero > Maybe that reflects the limits of your social networkNo.
(DIR) Post #Ak5PByW7oS3SGrWp1c by p
2024-07-19T10:55:16.668030Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero> These days there are a lot of tankies who call themselves anarcho-communists for some reason.There's not a meaningful distinction.> Akin to how fascists like to call themselves libertariansI know *zero* fascists that call themselves libertarians. I have seen people call libertarians fascists, I have seen people call anarchists fascists, and, having read Trotsky, I have seen one of the world's most prolific communist authors refer to everyone that does not accept the stiff Comintern hierarchy fascist/"Bonapartist"/whatever.I really don't ever want to argue terminology, which is why I say I'm not going to argue terminology.
(DIR) Post #Ak5PMBWiIZdvVzfjKC by p
2024-07-19T10:57:07.381520Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero > You're implicitly acknowledging that "commie" is an intentionally vague term of abuse, like "idiot", not a reflection of real world political beliefs or allegiances ; )I am not. I am saying that if an insult ("idiot") may be used without permission, a neutral classification may be used without permission.
(DIR) Post #Ak5POYA76xuUITEG0W by p
2024-07-19T10:57:33.028331Z
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@strypey @SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero I am also not joking when I say(1/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5PQ9PS700I6iAPA0 by p
2024-07-19T10:57:50.385107Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey That I do not intend to argue terminmology(2/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5PXZLS5C7yZVphmy by p
2024-07-19T10:59:10.827023Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey Let alone argue terminology across split messages.(3/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5PtkPZcPQRGTKubw by p
2024-07-19T11:03:11.321622Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey Socialists have an absurd belief that words create reality, rather than that words are a form of lossy compression used as a wire format for ideas. Arguing terminology is equivalent to arguing what other people are *allowed* to *mean* when they speak.(4/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5PvGiH0WEjjgoAoC by p
2024-07-19T11:03:27.813369Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey And Corey Doctorow is an idiot.(5/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5PyQpppYkFztqyo4 by p
2024-07-19T11:04:02.110581Z
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@SilverDeth @jeffcliff @not_br549 @sj_zero @strypey It is way more of a pain in the ass to deal with N messages than one message.(6/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak5Q4iQpJsTKJH9VyK by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2024-07-19T11:05:09.499010Z
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@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero Mastodon problems I think?
(DIR) Post #Ak5RacGrrNpuQLGlkG by p
2024-07-19T11:22:08.470384Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > I could just say Convicted Felon, which would be a neutral statement of fact.There is no such thing; you ought to know that. If I refer to Biden as "that crackhead's dad" or "the senile child-molester", these are facts, but "It's true!" does not mean it's neutral, and which things you decide to highlight are *more* relevant than the stance you take. See attached. So please, don't screw with me, man: it's one thing to talk, it's another to stretch my credibility and insult my intelligence, and it makes it difficult to assume good faith.> Mumbling Joe."Child-Rapist Joe", if you were trying to make the point effectively.> But faced with a binary choice that includes Pinochet, you pick the other one.We're not anywhere near Pinochet vs. Allende, which was my initial point: you do not appear to have a reasonable understanding of US politics.McCombsShaw1972--agenda_setting.pdf
(DIR) Post #Ak5S3J7q7cfJRVjBA0 by p
2024-07-19T11:27:19.587815Z
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@strypey @jeffcliff @sj_zero > (1/?)Goddammit, go look at @pnotifbot. I'm the hell out of this thread: I'm just not doing it. I am happy to discuss things, but I do not wish to discuss *everything* in the same thread. This is sloppy thinking, friend.
(DIR) Post #Ak70nJmzZrnMQD30dM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T05:31:14Z
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@p > things that I have thought very hard about and discussed at length and revisiting the very basic initial parts of the argument is boringThis.> I don't need a pinned post for those, I can just provide a link to a blogYou do you. But I find having people scroll these posts before following or continuing a discussion with me saves me a lot of aggravation.Relying on them following a link would result in aggravation. Therefore I pin posts.@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak70zqnChIe0Fs7eL2 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T05:33:33Z
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@p > things that I have thought very hard about and discussed at length and revisiting the very basic initial parts of the argument is boringThis.> I don't need a pinned post for those, I can just provide a link to a blogYou do you. But I find having people scroll these posts before following or continuing a discussion with me saves me a lot of aggravation.Relying on them following a link would result in aggravation. Therefore I pin posts.@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak71bWVwXYqcMo0qki by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T05:40:07Z
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@p > most of the curation-oriented features ("delete and redraft" comes to mind) are useless or annoyingDelete-and-redraft had all sorts of uses before post editing was available. It remains the only way to change to change the scope of a post ("oops, that Public post was meant to be a Direct one!"), with three clicks, rather than an awkward cut'n'paste dance.@samjayganges @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak72qmEAV6lPOmXI48 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T05:54:19Z
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Having said that, yes, blog posts are a good place to condense one's thought on common conversations about important topics. So a single link avoids the boredom and teeth-grinding frustration of rehashing them over and over. I do this more often, and limit myself to 2-3 pinned posts.After living in China for 2 years, I'm even more in agreement with most of this;https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/what-is-freedom-of-speech.html(1/?)
(DIR) Post #Ak73WKu4Tutcohx81A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T06:01:32Z
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Although I have some minor quibbles. Eg I consider myself a radical; someone who aims to fix problems at the root (https://www.etymonline.com/word/radical) rather than slapping away at surface symptoms. The word "radical" is being demonised for the reason "libertarian" is, and the same reason "anarchist" and "democrat" were in the 19th century, and "pirate" and "luddite" before that. As is any word commonly used to describe people who challenge power.(2/?)
(DIR) Post #Ak73mRSdrtXlmvnpSa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T06:04:44Z
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I get that any replacement word that won't confuse most people (like "extremist") probably has similar issues if you dig into it. I'd probably phrase it like;Cults, including those based on political ideologies, thrive on isolation.(3/3)
(DIR) Post #Ak78MwsOwXvxSmVy1A by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T06:56:09Z
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@p > I really don't ever want to argue terminologyAnd yet you are. Well not really, since you haven't actually offered counterarguments, just contradictions. Which contradict my personal experiences. So I'm going to go with those if you don't mind ; )> which is why I say I'm not going to argue terminology... and yet you wrote a long and detailed blog post arguing about what "freedom of speech" means ; )@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak78fvMsm94gHrounY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T06:59:35Z
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Well it's been fun, but it seems like this whole conversation is now circling the toilet. I may reply to any notifications I haven't seen yet, but overall I think it's time to flush. Thanks for the discursive workout.@p @SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak78pd9ZLu7gguDmcq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T07:01:20Z
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@BowsacNoodle > Mastodon problems I think?If @p can't click on the first post and read the whole thread, as easily as if it was a single wall of text post, then the problem is not with Mastodon.@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak795mlRO4C38Edf84 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T07:04:15Z
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@p > I do not wish to discuss *everything* in the same threadNo. You want to discuss everything in one *post*. Big difference ; )@pnotifbot @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak7LsG56t8tbPKideq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T09:27:21Z
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Me:> This is not a choice between a Pinochet and an Allende.@p > We're not anywhere near Pinochet vs. AllendeUh-huh. But the Orange Felon's attempt to avoid a peaceful handover of power in 2020 - which even *his VP* agreed was appropriate - that *alone* means he's definitely a Pinochet. So if you don't want a Pinochet in your top public office, however dirty it might make you feel to vote for the other candidate, that's what you do.@jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak7MVQIArK1MMxVM6y by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T09:34:33Z
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@p > Socialists have an absurd belief that words create realityThat's not a socialist belief, it's hard postmodernism. There's some overlap, for sure, but I'm a socialist (broadly speaking) and I don't belief this.It does seem obvious to me that the words we choose to use or avoid can shape the way things are thought about. "Intellectual property" is a great example;https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html(1/2)@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak7Mmauad2xaEDf3i4 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-20T09:37:40Z
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@p > Arguing terminology is equivalent to arguing what other people are *allowed* to *mean* when they speakIt can be. It can also be a way of figuring out which basket of ideas someone is pointing at, when they use abstract words. This can help us avoid talking past each other, by using the same term (eg "capitalism") to mean totally different things.Can I ask why talking about words seems to bother you so much?(2/2)@SilverDeth @not_br549 @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Ak8vXeW6dMnqcSmP2W by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-21T03:41:49.945568Z
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Trump is not a Pinochet and that's easily and definitely provable.Some might claim Donald Trump is a Pinochet because he contested the election. Does that make most Democrats a Stalin, given that they've contested every presidential election they lost for the past 25 years?[1][2][3]I should also mention that some might point out the fact that Donald Trump was accusing the election of having unprecedented fraud, and that seems unusual, but the reality is that the 2020 election was unprecedented in many ways. Practices such as mailing voting[4] and drop boxes[5] which have not been widely used in elections for generations of the American project(Absentee ballots did exist since colonial times, but were limited to just a few situations such as military service until California became the first state to have no-reason absentee ballots in 1978, hundreds of years after the founding of the United States, but even then it's not normal to have the level of mail-in voting used in 2020) because it is known that they are potential sources of fraud and corruption were used with the covid-19 pandemic being the state of justification. The majority of cases brought by Trump or his supporters never had any hearing on the merits[6]. This fits since pretty famously courts almost never want to interfere in elections at all[7]. COVID-19 was used as a justification in at least one case for keeping election observers at an unreasonably long distance away and a Pennsylvania judge agreed, telling the city to allow observers to be closer, a ruling the city appealed[8]. In retrospect it seems probable that many of the other claims such as observers being kept out were false and based on false rumors, it wasn't as if all the claims were entirely baseless -- a famous photo showed one election observer using binoculars to observe because they were kept so far away[9]. I suspect that the fact the world had spent the year under the tyrannical boot of government COVID restrictions and double standards or the insanity of the summer of love riots that seemed to include a lot of shady backroom dealings and open crossing of red lines such as imposing censorship on social media platforms in ways that hadn't previously been seen, and many things called "conspiracy theories" of the time ended up being fully true in the aftermath. Even if we end up agreeing he was wrong, being wrong about something but having a sincerely held belief doesn't make someone a dictator. If you sincerely believed that you lost the election due to cheating, wouldn't it be only commendable to use every legal means available to you to push to resolve that, up to and including peaceful protests to ask the certification process to be paused?Some people say that stating his beliefs led to the January 6th riots, but I'd say there was a lot that led to that, including the 6 months of riots the Democrats cheered on and supported including financially. The establishment media also contributed to the Jan 6 riots by their absurd lies leading up to the election including fact checks that call something false but started with "while it is true that"...The Democrats ended up spending four years attacking Donald Trump based on the Steele dossier, which was something that was fabricated from whole cloth by Hillary Clinton's campaign which was later fined for the election fraud by the FEC[10].They also ended up pushing back in 2000 and 2004 -- pretty much every election they lose they end up contesting, and they used their fraudulent manufactured evidence of election manipulation from 2016 to stymie the president, and in the process used the process to lock up Trump's allies[11]. I was a supporter of the Democrats at the time and a default liberal.[lol] I distinctly recall lots of people continually saying Bush stole the election, the Supreme court stole it for him, he wasn't a legitimate president. 2004 saw the Democrats criticizing voting machines, ironically. (you know, when I voted it was a piece of paper and a pencil, why do we need hanging chads and specially packaged PCs pretending to be special voting machines?)Another interesting thing, is that Donald Trump had every opportunity to be an actual Pinochet. You might not remember the 6 months (by some measures over a year)[12] of violent riots that were explicitly supported by the democrats including fundraising to keep the violent criminals out of jail[13], but pepperidge farm remembers.During those 6 months of riots, and there were two classes of crime that absolutely would have given Trump justification to use his role as Commander in Chief of the armed forces to go in there and declare martial law. They were crimes that shocked the conscience, such as the young black girl who was murdered by a mob for the crime of stopping their car in the wrong place [14], or the apartment building burned down by the mob with people inside as protesters blocked first responders[15]. In the end, over 1000 buildings burned or were damaged in the twin cities, resulting in over 130 million dollars in damage[16]. Despite few charges being laid, the state asked the federal government for money to aid repairs, claiming the riots caused over 500 million dollars in damage and over 1500 businesses affected.[17] Minneapolis wasn't the only city affected, the riots spread to many cities, including the aforementioned Atlanta. Many of these events would be considered crimes against humanity, and pure justification to take any means necessary to end.Besides the crimes against the people, there were also a number of crimes against the government that would have justified taking action. The rioters destroyed and burned down police departments[18], firebombed a courthouse[19], and attacked the Whitehouse so violently the president was evacuated to a protective bunker[20].In fact myself, and many other people wanted Trump to send in the military with lead bullets not to shut down peaceful protests but to immediately and decisively and any violent riots or other political violence. You can judge people like me, but I had a friend in Minneapolis at the time telling me the stories behind the buildings that were burned down and I empathized because I would never want that happening to my home. In spite of our wishes, he did not do that. He instead readied the troops and waited for the request to the federal government in accordance with federal law[21]. Donald Trump specifically did not deploy the troops, it was the governors who deployed the troops in the end[22].Now you might be saying "of course Donald Trump didn't send in the troops, he couldn't possibly do that!" But there is precedent. Famously, president Johnson sent federal troops into Alabama against the wishes of its segregationist governor in 1965 to enforce desegregation[23]. But that again brings us back to the fundamental problem: you might not like it, but Trump just wasn't a dictator. He had a situation that could have justified extraordinary dictatorial measures, and he didn't do that. He could have declared martial law, he didn't do that. He could have tried to use the same logic Democrats used to implement questionable election to fully cancel the elections, and he didn't. Even his so-called "coup" appeared to be to ask citizens to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard[24] to make use of part of the process intended to put a pause on something if there were questionable events. Trump's last post on Twitter before he was banned was a video saying "you have to go home now," and "We have to have peace, we have to have law and order, we have to respect our great people in law and order. We don't want anyone hurt."[25] . Agree with his politics or not, there was a lot he could have done along dictatorial lines and he did not. Contrast with mine fuhrer Justin Trudeau, who went faced with the most peaceful protests in world history violated the law to employ the emergencies act[26] to seize dissidents bank accounts, and paid the media to take his side[27]. See? That's how you do dictatorship!It's ironic, the left says support for Donald Trump is a cult, but every right winger I know has major criticisms of him and his presidency. One of those criticisms is that he wasn't nearly dictatorial enough! Compare for example many court cases he lost[28] and just accepted the loss. Meanwhile, Biden is doing everything he can to cancel student loan debt except the one thing he's constitutionally supposed to do: get Congress to set aside the money for it[29].Another thing to look at is contrast with how his opponents behave. They claimed Trump would abuse the legal system against his opponents[30], but he didn't -- meanwhile they've indicted him for more crimes than Al Capone[31], and his recent conviction was openly and aggressively politically motivated. He was elected saying he would prosecute Hillary Clinton, but Letitia James was elected saying she would prosecute Donald Trump and did[32] and Alvin Brag was elected saying he would prosecute Donald Trump and he did[33]. They claimed he'd become a military dictator, but it wasn't until Biden was inaugurated that Washington DC started looking like Pyongyang, filled with troops[34] and barbed wire fences[35]. They claimed he told his followers to bad things but he said "peacefully and patriotically make yourselves heard" and when the protest turned into a riot he said "go home[...]we have to respect our great people in law and order" while the current sitting vice president said of rioters "beware" since "they're not gonna stop [...] And they should not"[36]So to conclude, I've presented overwhelming evidence often citing opposing news sources proving that while everyone would likely agree his presidency was imperfect and he's an imperfect person, Trump had overwhelming chances to be the tyrant people claim he wanted to be but refused to take those chances to do so and instead obeyed the law that limited his actions. He could have done many of the things he was accused of wanting to do, but did not. Meanwhile, many of the things he was accused of wanting to do have been done by his opponents in the aftermath of his presidency. What Donald Trump had more than most presidents of the past century is an actively hostile establishment against him including an establishment media whose entire raison d'etre became attacking him. Ironically, in attacking this one man, they've burned through decades of goodwill and done far more damage to themselves than even a hypothetical dictator Trump could have. He's not a Pinochet, and the American people appear on track to agree, potentially re-electing him in November.Keep in mind that this discussion is all taking place in a thread about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump that occurred last week[37]. While it is appearing now that the attempt was not politically motivated, a lot of people are showing their colors in that they would have preferred it be successful and there's thousands of millions of posts saying "aw, if only the shooter hadn't missed". As a fantastic example of the hostile establishment, Donald Trump had just been shot -- he had in fact been shot, he saw the bullet coming towards him, he felt the pain, he was still bleeding, and his reaction was to pump his fist and scream "fight fight fight" -- and CNN attacked him, saying "that's not the message we want to be sending right now"[38]. I ask you whether the establishment media would have ever made such a criticism if Joe Biden was the one still bleeding from a bullet that nearly killed him reacted like that? It's an inhuman expectation that someone would spout whatever the "right" thing to say is. Ever gotten punched in the face unexpectedly? How elouquent are you immediately afterwards? Have you ever just avoided getting murdered? Me either, but I bet I wouldn't be so equoquent either because neither of us are robots.[1] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/06/yes-bush-v-gore-did-steal-the-election.html[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/us/the-2004-campaign-complaints-charges-of-dirty-tricks-fraud-and-voter.html[3] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/russia-investigation/[4] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-will-we-vote-outbreak-revives-debate-on-mail-in-ballots[5] https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/rise-ballot-drop-boxes-due-coronavirus[6] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aqorZ61AYFqZU-EDQBBzjqfvAoC5nKcB/view[7] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/politics/when-courts-overturn-elections.html[8] https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/dem-petition-pa.pdf[9] https://www.inquirer.com/photo/convention-center-plays-host-phillys-ballot-counting-20201103.html[10] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-campaign-democratic-party-fined-fec-clears-steele-dossier-author-of-wrongdoing/[11] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/muellers-case-against-paul-manafort-explained[lol] https://fbxl.net/issue1/ped.html[12] https://ghostarchive.org/archive/9geA1[13] https://www.facebook.com/KamalaHarris/posts/if-youre-able-to-chip-in-now-to-the-minnesota-freedom-fund-to-help-post-bail-for/10158943194687923/[14] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/atlanta-mayor-8-year-old-killed.html[15] https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/2/will-smith-va-police-chief-says-rioters-blocked-fi/[16] https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/05/27/one-year-later-few-charges-for-the-arson-and-destruction/[17] https://apnews.com/article/442bb3509625e13df3afb06b8e652163[18] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/03/us/minneapolis-government-george-floyd.html[19] https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/long-lake-man-gets-5-years-for-firebombing-courthouse-during-george-floyd-riots[20] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/politics/trump-protests-george-floyd.html[21] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-says-military-ready-willing-able-ready-deploy-minneapolis-amid-n1219656[22] https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/fact-check-trump-walz-minnesota-national-guard/index.html[23] https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/lbj-sends-federal-troops-to-alabama[24] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/trump-speech-riot.html[25] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/blog/electoral-college-certification-updates-n1252864/ncrd1253120?canonicalCard=true[26] https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/federal-court-rules-emergencies-act-invocation-not-justified-1.6738624[27] https://www.youtube.com/live/o6ZuJoUf6sE?si=zyHQcIxbD-Kie7Ek&t=2335[28] https://policyintegrity.org/trump-court-roundup[29] https://www.npr.org/2024/07/19/g-s1-12173/federal-appeals-court-blocks-remainder-biden-student-debt-relief-plan[30] https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-has-threatened-dozens-of-times-to-use-the-government-to-target-political-enemies/[31] https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/07/donald-trump-legal-cases-charges/675531/[32] https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/incoming-new-york-ag-wants-to-go-after-trump-and-his-family-on-state-crimes/[33] https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/20/politics/bragg-new-york-trump/index.html[34] https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/01/16/957642610/unprecedented-number-of-troops-descend-on-washington-d-c-for-bidens-inauguration[35] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nations-capital-turned-fortress-washington-ahead-inauguration/story?id=75259761[36] https://americanmind.org/features/ending-the-blm-revolution/theyre-not-gonna-stop/[37] https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/politics/timeline-trump-rally-shooting-dg/index.html[38] https://www.newsweek.com/cnn-response-donald-trump-shooting-sparks-fury-1924905
(DIR) Post #Ak9AZ5iaU5ESaJlIZ6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-21T06:30:11Z
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@sj_zero > Some might claim Donald Trump is a Pinochet because he contested the election. Does that make most Democrats a Stalin, given that they've contested every presidential election they lost for the past 25 years?He didn't just "contest" the election result. He instructed a mob to initiate force against his VP, in an attempt to stop him from carrying out his constitutional duties. If you're so lost in the Mirror Universe that you can't see why this is a problem, then š¤·@p @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #Ak9J7oShQx6ApmOjey by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-21T08:06:08.162566Z
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@sj_zero @p @strypey @jeffcliff The question hinges on, "was the election actually legitimate"?If it was, only a tyrant would challenge it.If it was not, only a tyrant would not challenge it.As usual all of Leftism is mentally incoherent. These are the pro-civilization-suicide people.
(DIR) Post #Ak9kQS8jLf0trsAcPg by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-21T13:12:00.930191Z
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I figured that an unfounded lazy ad hominem was what I was going to get back, which is why I explained my viewpoint in detail and sourced all the facts, often using news sources and even articles that are adversarial to my position.Since I've already addressed what you're saying I'll rest my case.
(DIR) Post #Ak9kr9iPxRvqXoazJI by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-21T13:16:50.952052Z
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What "force" did he instruct people to use? Please provide direct statements made by djt containing these alleged instructions and identify the specific people to whom the instructions were given. I'll wait here.
(DIR) Post #Ak9nLgbyPodjAKGcwS by MasterSimper@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-21T13:44:47.517287Z
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He said things and the media lied, which he knew they would do, meaning that because he knew they were liars and would make anything he said would be instructions. Its all logical I took a class on logic you know
(DIR) Post #Ak9rbC38DAWUpTcUuu by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-07-21T14:32:23.540518Z
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:NPC: "Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" is clearly a right-wing dog whistle for do the opposite of what those words mean.
(DIR) Post #AkA9EfN4pI52HdMCoK by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-21T17:49:51.300600Z
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I think we can also further break it down to two more questions, subjective and objective, and look at the points of view as right brained vs. left brained.The objective question of "was the election actually legitimate" goes to whether the action of overturning an election is right or wrong. Overturning a legitimate election would be wrong regardless of your personal viewpoint, and not overturning an illegitimate election would be right regardless of your personal viewpoint.But the subjective question of "Did Trump think the election was actually legitimate" goes to whether his part in doing so would be tyrannical or not. If he honestly believed that the election had been illegitimate, then even if he's wrong he's not being tyrannical to push back against it, and if he honestly didn't believe that the election had been illegitimate, then he's tyrannical to push back against it even if it did turn out to be illegitimate.At this point, I do think that the election of 2020 was legitimate insofar as the election itself was generally properly handled, but in the moment I had questions of my own, and part of those questions were reasonable given the illegal and unethical methods we'd seen used throughout the Trump presidency and in particular during 2020. I think the thing that won the 2020 election was the establishment media attack machine more than anything, but that's unfortunately legitimate and legal and not a reason to overturn anything. I do think that Trump thought he was doing the right thing, however even if he was wrong, making it a good thing he ultimately failed to overturn the election.There was lots of circumstantial evidence, that just didn't end up translating into real evidence of wrongdoing. Some of the circumstantial evidence was really damning, such as election workers caught on tape saying some really bad things or the photo of an election observer using binoculars.There are two parts of the brain, one of them being logical and the other one being emotional. Circumstantial evidence is not persuasive to the logical part of the brain, but it can be extremely persuasive to the emotional part of the brain. And there was overwhelming circumstantial evidence that something weird was going on with the 2020 election. For example, changing the way that the election was done at the last second, the severe disconnect between the number of people at Trump rallies compared to Biden rallies, videos showing election officials saying really questionable things, the photograph of an election observer being forced to use binoculars to observe, not to mention the overwhelming piece of circumstantial evidence that was the summer of Love riots which were actively assisted by the Democratic establishment. Now none of these will hold up in court because they don't actually prove anything. They are entirely logically inconsistent with anything going wrong. However, emotionally they set off all kinds of alarm bells. Now myself being a more logical person, ultimately I do need to have the real evidence of wrongdoing to say something happened. Donald Trump doesn't strike me as a logical person, he strikes me as extremely emotional. I think that's part of his appeal. That's also why he often says things that are factually wrong, because he's an emotional guy and he's appealing to emotion. (By the way, that's not a justification for saying stuff that's false, it's just an explanation of it.) so for an extremely emotional guy like him, I think that the circumstantial evidence is more than enough to convince him conclusively that there were shenanigans in the elections, so it probably was a sincerely held belief on his part regardless of whether that was objectively the case."The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" is a book by psychiatrist Iain McGilchrist, published in 2009. The book explores the differences between the two hemispheres of the brain. The right hemisphere is referred to in the book as the "Master," it is responsible for holistic thinking, context, empathy, and an understanding of the broader picture. It is more connected to the real, lived experience and the embodied world. The left hemisphere is referred to as the "Emissary," it specializes in analytical thinking, language, abstraction, and breaking things down into parts. It deals with details, categorization, and is more focused on manipulation of the world rather than experiencing it.From a left-brained perspective, the election wasn't stolen because there was no evidence of it being directly stolen in the moments of 2020, but from a right brained perspective the election was stolen from 2016 onwards, and the stolen election only got worse as time went on because the will of the people that had voted for Donald Trump had been subverted by forces that thought that they knew better.From a right-brained perspective, the lack of specific evidence for a specific part of the narrative doesn't disprove the narrative because there's overwhelming evidence from a holistic standpoint including overwhelming evidence of lawlessness from the Democrats leading up to the election, as well as open pronouncements from many people that they're going to do whatever it takes to beat Trump presumably including fraud or criminal activity.Western society is extremely right brained, and there's a good reason for that: autistic right-brained viewpoints have built some of the most powerful weapons and technologies the human race has ever seen. The thing is, that doesn't make it dominantly correct, it's just one of two worldviews. So the right brain can say that the election wasn't stolen, and the left brain can say that it was, and in spite of the fact that they're saying opposite things, they are both within their own purview correct.Now some people might say "but obviously the facts and figures brain is more correct", and that's exactly the attitude of the left brain, since of of the traits of the left brain is it thinks it's the smarter side of the brain. In reality, the holistic part of the brain often realizes things before the analytical part of the brain. That's why the dominant ideologies for most of human history were holistic religions heavy on symbolism and light on facts and figures and analytical data.One obvious problem with this whole analysis is that taking right brain analysis and trying to stuff it into a left brain legal system just isn't going to work, and it didn't work and rightfully so. Much like someone who brings their car to an auto mechanic and starts demanding certain mechanical procedures get done because they know that there's a problem but they don't know really what problem or how to fix it, Trump continuing to insist on using the specific legal remedies for problems that obviously existed but would probably not be resolved by the tools he was hoping to use, he was never going to get the outcome he wanted. On the other hand, he's not a lawyer he's a real estate magnate. An auto mechanic would have a better idea of how certain tools would work in certain situations, and a lawyer would work better in certain situations as well. While some of Trump's advisors did tell him that there was no chance of these tools working, some very well-established and respected lawyers told him they could work.
(DIR) Post #AkABmOQOXUFFTl7R9E by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-21T18:18:31.831358Z
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Then what does "I have a ten inch penis" mean? š
(DIR) Post #AkAI2ybOOq5S2VYP68 by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-21T19:28:45.949820Z
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@sj_zero @p @strypey @jeffcliff As we are fond of saying, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." If no one is looking in the right places, the data does not exist.We have doubts about the 1960 election too, and it turns out that these were at least mostly right.Then there is America's long history of political machines stealing elections through immigrant votes.So to the question "does Trump have a legitimate reason to believe the election is illegitimate" I have to answer a hard YES, doubly so after the cover-ups and denials of the various investigations.Those who have nothing to hide do not act as our system did.
(DIR) Post #AkAOHMEfvW9R7JAWcC by sj_zero@social.fbxl.net
2024-07-21T20:38:34.347867Z
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A lot of people say something along the lines of "If you have a gut feeling that something's wrong, it probably is".Problem is you can't come into a courtroom with a gut feeling, you need evidence. If past instances were any indication, we'll probably find out the truth after it's completely impotent to know.
(DIR) Post #AkASB1lLX1vBhSggCW by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-21T21:22:16.434206Z
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@sj_zero @p @strypey @jeffcliff Exactly. So all we have is looking at the circumstantial totality.That, and the fact that resistance to any investigation of the election was so widespread and well-funded.
(DIR) Post #AkAvoAG8lx84156alE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T02:54:14Z
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@amerika > The question hinges on, "was the election actually legitimate"?Exactly. If the VP was forcibly prevented from following his constitutional duty, then it wouldn't be. Right?Imagine Gore had refused to accept the court decision disallowing the recounts in 2000, and tried to take power by force. Then, despite this, he was nominated as the Dem candidate in 2004, and refused to rule out a repeat if he lost.Would have been concerned? Because I would.@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkAwgc2Ni65Do2dH1M by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T03:04:06Z
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@sj_zero > the thing that won the 2020 election was the establishment media attack machine more than anythingI think the same was true in 2016. The constant feeding of the troll by news media reminded people of the manipulative ways Clinton got the Dem nomimation. Flipping them to the Other Guy, or a protest vote for a third candidate.Which suggests that news media attacks can't stop someone being President, if people really don't want the Other Guy.@amerika @p @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AkAx1nUSK9hZPKrjZQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T03:07:32Z
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@sj_zero > the severe disconnect between the number of people at Trump rallies compared to Biden rallies... suggests that the 2016 outcome was determined by opposition to the Orange Felon, not support for Biden. If Biden wins again, despite the obvious cognitive decline, this suggests the same.@amerika @p @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AkAy1yKU7lIcykqhjk by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T03:19:03Z
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@Humpleupagus > Then what does "I have a ten inch penis" mean?That you're compensating for something you've lost? ; )@nicholas @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkB2LJ2rj8mSXx5Axc by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-22T04:07:29.931321Z
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One day I'll find the guy who stole it. š¤Ø
(DIR) Post #AkB2UvzeHvvzwrAXKa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T04:09:09Z
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(1/2)@Humpleupagus > Please provide direct statements made by djtEven if I didn't agree with what @nicholas said..."I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the capitol building..."https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UILCtm_ALMI... suggests this had been organised in advance, with his knowledge, and..."to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"... is totally compatible with forcefully prevent Pence from handing over power, without hurting anyone.@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkB2bEy4ec04XCRIf2 by Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club
2024-07-22T04:10:22.883160Z
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I can't take you seriously.
(DIR) Post #AkB4KWuWtDfPAVwOfI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T04:29:30Z
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(2/2)Now let's say we accept what you're implying, that the Orange Felon wanted people to peacefully protest outside the capitol instead of storming in and trying to stop Pence. In that case, he would have immediately spoken out against it. Please provide direct statements made by djt where he did that. I'll wait here ; )
(DIR) Post #AkB8VOckRK4YTB3pFQ by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-07-22T05:16:32.534173Z
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Got'dam, were you dropped on your head as a child? How are you this confident while being this ignorant. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8kjR4nYzkYou need to take a long, hard look at your media diet. You are embarrassing yourself.
(DIR) Post #AkB9KZgh45ZNYGJHQ8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T05:25:43Z
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@nicholas I'll see your video, and raise you one more video;https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CJuNHI2KP5w
(DIR) Post #AkBEHQv1i6MBG2Kraq by nicholas@aklp.club
2024-07-22T06:21:14.536009Z
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Please provide direct statements made by djt where he did that.I'll see your video...So that's done then.Quit moving the goalposts you human denial of service attack.
(DIR) Post #AkBG2xoRKVBIqATzea by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T06:40:54Z
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Me:> he would have immediately spoken out against it. Please provide direct statements made by djt where he did thatThey key word here is *immediately*. If he didn't want anyone storming the capitol, he would have issued a call to stand down the very second he saw any sign of the crowd trying to get in. As the video I linked shows, he did so *3 hours* later.Also, has he consistently condemning the storming of the capitol or praised those do did it;https://yewtu.be/watch?v=w7Bg5_-7e00@nicholas
(DIR) Post #AkBGCkuS9peziaxrnc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-22T06:41:52Z
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Me:> he would have immediately spoken out against it. Please provide direct statements made by djt where he did thatThey key word here is *immediately*. If he didn't want anyone storming the capitol, he would have issued a call to stand down the very second he saw any sign of the crowd trying to get in. As the video I linked shows, he did so *3 hours* later.Also, has he consistently condemned the storming of the capitol or praised those do did it?@nicholas
(DIR) Post #AkBgXlmihDfbK31oqu by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-22T11:37:52.245371Z
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@strypey Forcibly prevented, like a fistfight?Pence's constitutional duty was to certify only a legitimate election.There were enough irregularities to call this one "off."America has a long history of this. Maybe NZ does too; it's such a liberal hugbox however that I think its problem lies elsewhere.
(DIR) Post #AkBgaqNq3SFwSBr95U by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-22T11:38:31.137862Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @p @jeffcliff This is the same thing that happened during the Reagan years: the media whipped up all the useless people into opposing anything but more 1960s "the people's army" narrative.
(DIR) Post #AkBgeiY57t3NJSUiNE by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-22T11:39:13.179481Z
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@strypey @sj_zero @p @jeffcliff Even Biden supporters acknowledge that it's a protest vote.Then again, he's receiving probably a trillion dollars of free media coverage.
(DIR) Post #AkP4kCBdHgGqdUcNmq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-28T22:40:17Z
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@amerika > Pence's constitutional duty was to certify only a legitimate election.> There were enough irregularities to call this one "off."That's a partisan opinion.If there had been a single, *constitutional* reason not to certify the election, you can be your arse Pence would have happily refused without any outside pressure. He didn't, so there wasn't.Inconvenient as this may be to your gospel, this is a fact.
(DIR) Post #AkP5G5GyWcF8SZK45g by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-07-28T22:45:55Z
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@amerika > Even Biden supporters acknowledge that it's a protest votePeople who see it as a protest vote are not, by definition, "Biden supporters". But sure. Just like for many people the Orange Felon was a protest vote against Clinton in 2016, and the Dem leadership for forcing her nomination.@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkQT0V2LYjmzn3Xejo by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-29T14:46:57.386995Z
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@strypey @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero No, the Orange Guy was a desire for a reversal of direction from marching into the far-Left abyss. He was the Tea Party candidate.
(DIR) Post #AkQT273XgqADzis1U8 by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-07-29T14:47:12.643443Z
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@strypey No, it's a partisan opinion to deny irregularities and the long history of vote fraud in the USA.
(DIR) Post #AkXUsvZmYxdJnZPxVA by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-02T00:10:57Z
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@amerika> the Orange Guy was a desire for a reversal of direction from marching into the far-Left abyss. He was the Tea Party candidateThat fairy story is why his supporters voted for him;https://theauthoritarians.org/comment-on-the-tea-party-movement/But not why he won. If the Dems hadn't corrupted their own democratic process to nominate Clinton, Bernie would have easily beaten him. Among other reasons, by attracting all the neoliberal media attack coverage, starving the other guy of attention.@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkXVDUjnXiEAdquScy by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-02T00:14:36Z
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@amerika> it's a partisan opinion to deny irregularities and the long history of vote fraud in the USAThat, my friend is a partisan opinion. If I'm wrong, why did Pence follow his constitutional duty and hand over executive power to Biden?
(DIR) Post #AkXeaLGDqLrdUt2qsy by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-02T01:59:37.067097Z
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@strypey Non sequitur. We know there's a history of vote fraud, raising it is not anomalous.
(DIR) Post #AkXedaJMLGnv2p3hBI by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-02T02:00:15.293035Z
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@strypey @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero I am skeptical of this narrative. Lots of youth interest in Bernie did not translate into wider voter interest, especially since he comes across as a whiner.
(DIR) Post #Akbp8zt54ow1WDDxMO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-04T02:16:40Z
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@amerikaYou keep refusing to answer the question, which is;> why did Pence follow his constitutional duty and hand over executive power to Biden in 2020?Which suggests you know very well that what the Orange Felon tried to do on Jan 6 was an anti-constitutional insurrection. Something any US patriot ought to condemn.So why are you clinging to a position that you know doesn't hold water?
(DIR) Post #AkbpLB4XJlhpgNOGXI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-04T02:18:59Z
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@amerika> Lots of youth interest in Bernie did not translate into wider voter interestThis was never put to the test, so we'll never know. But we do know that whatever interest there was in Clinton didn't translate into wider voter interest.> especially since he comes across as a whinerAnd the Orange Felon isn't?!?@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #AkciQXyn4U2LegHAlU by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-04T12:36:16.356157Z
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@strypey @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero Bernie is an internet phenomenon. You are living in a bubble.
(DIR) Post #AkciW94oZY2M9qlNpY by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-04T12:37:14.161078Z
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@strypey There's some question as to what Constitutional duty is in any case. If he certified fraud, he violated his Constitutional duty.Jan 6 was a riot because an election was stolen. Refusal to accept irregularities is partisanship.Leftists have ensured through their intransigence that we are going to have to throw them out of helicopters.
(DIR) Post #Akk1zgd0ANKlqiH0Ii by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-08T01:18:28Z
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@amerika> Bernie is an internet phenomenon. You are living in a bubbleThat's what the news media said about the Orange Felon in 2016. Turns out there's no longer any meaningful distinction between "internet phenomenon" and "social phenomenon". Besides, maintaining the "internet phenomenon" claim, in both cases, requires ignoring the huge turnout at in-person rallies.@p @jeffcliff @sj_zero
(DIR) Post #Akk2MMphviuz7H20J6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-08T01:22:30Z
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@amerika> If he certified fraud, he violated his Constitutional dutyAgreed. What possible reason would he have to use fraud to deny his own running mate the Presidency? Citations please.> Leftists have ensured through their intransigence that we are going to have to throw them out of helicopters... and here we discover that all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about "Constitutional duty" and election "irregularities" is just a cover for a violent, anti-democratic agenda.Who knew? ; )
(DIR) Post #AklmK90x7tyAjG84Dg by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-08T21:32:18.142146Z
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@strypey And so, the question becomes: did he cerftify fraud?There are enough irregularities to think so.
(DIR) Post #AklmLU7u7LqaUr1I4u by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-08T21:32:35.046006Z
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@strypey @p @jeffcliff @sj_zero I disagree. The internet congregates losers. They thought Hillary was a shoe-in too.
(DIR) Post #AkonNP8KKsub1BZo6C by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-10T08:28:07Z
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@amerika> And so, the question becomes: did he certify fraud?How many times will you dodge the point?1) Pence certified the election result.2) Despite having every reason to refuse if there was a single piece of solid evidence of election fraud. 3) Which all but proves there wasn't any.> There are enough irregularities to think soThis is classic wishful thinking. You *want* the election to have been fraudulent, confirmation bias does the rest.
(DIR) Post #AkonadXs40ZfTrpml6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-10T08:30:33Z
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@amerika> The internet congregates losershttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/112923764854489393> They thought Hillary was a shoe-in toohttps://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/112901353626505655
(DIR) Post #AkotrCV0TPjYFKmASm by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-10T09:40:49.167926Z
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@strypey And now you've gone circular.
(DIR) Post #Akotv6TGpM8Yi1pCM4 by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-10T09:41:32.452834Z
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@strypey You still haven't understand what I am saying here.First, the Pence made a judgment call and that these are not absolute.Second, that the irregularities are at a local and state level and therefore have to move upward in the legal system.Your ignorance is not as good as my knowledge.
(DIR) Post #Aku8bUX482qSe2VQlE by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-12T22:19:32Z
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@amerika> And now you've gone circularSomeone certainly has ; )
(DIR) Post #Aku906nTVsh4Gpv5CS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-12T22:23:57Z
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@amerika> Pence made a judgment callDespite having every reason to refuse if there was a single piece of solid evidence of election fraud at the time.> that the irregularities are at a local and state level and therefore have to move upward in the legal systemSo the appropriate thing to do is participate in due process, *not* storm the Capitol and try to stop Pence doing what the *available evidence* told him was the Constitutionally appropriate thing.Honestly, you don't have a case.
(DIR) Post #AkuQ8qeUbiC41cTI1Y by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-13T01:36:06.697049Z
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@strypey Pence is an appeaser who made a number of pro-Establishment choices.Due process was not working... and now in this next election, there is more focus on eliminating irregularities.In the meantime we get daily stories about Iran, China, or Russia interfering in our elections.
(DIR) Post #AkuQAAkLNlb4dVq7Wq by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-13T01:36:23.094956Z
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@strypey You keep repeating yourself as if others do not understand you.This is #TLB.
(DIR) Post #AkuYvMzMU0UJqfsecC by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2024-08-13T03:14:28Z
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@amerika > You keep repeating yourself as if others do not understand youLook in the mirror son. You've got shit on your face and I'm going to keep pointing it out until you clean yourself up.
(DIR) Post #AkuZ3An1iqCoKZpdaK by amerika@annihilation.social
2024-08-13T03:15:58.100470Z
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@strypey So you claim, but you're ranting in circles.