Post AjsbdDr4ZJr1QPMKcS by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
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(DIR) Post #AjrULdXjQe8P2s1J9k by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T17:45:19.766159Z
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hey everyone , im starting to look into self diagnosis , and whether or not it is a valid and good thing to do . i would love to hear peoples opinions about it , since i feel like this can be a fairly controversial topic . in my specific case , id like to research and look into self diagnosing with adhd . please boost so i can gather the opinions of more ppl <3
(DIR) Post #AjrUbAN3eqnJCdQsiW by kim@linfan.moe
2024-07-12T17:49:32.706260Z
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@fiore i dont know shit about self diagnosis BUTif you take methylphenidate and you start feeling focused and stuff you probably have adhd
(DIR) Post #AjrUgEajOSIxjyFEci by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T17:49:04.869292Z
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@kim mhm , aightthx !!!!! i thought abt doing the same with adderall and seeing if i feel like i can function “normally “
(DIR) Post #AjrUn3UJ4hVNKXUZpw by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T17:50:15.378287Z
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@mystie oh thx !! ill def watch it ^^
(DIR) Post #AjrUxfg5wJuGfe4HZ2 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T17:52:11.948106Z
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@nbsp oh ! thx aoife ,,im just very scared bc , aa very close friend of mine whose opinion i value a lot is kind of opposed to it , so i wanted to hear more voices
(DIR) Post #AjrUxymotXZjw0MQBU by ch0ccyra1n@emeraldsocial.org
2024-07-12T17:53:49Z
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@fiore I don't see why not
(DIR) Post #AjrV1ZkNvr89R1w7qi by kim@linfan.moe
2024-07-12T17:54:28.934078Z
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@fiore the thing i mentioned is basically the adderall that often gets prescribed in germany
(DIR) Post #AjrV2gWyCEOklPBt1E by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T17:53:08.341366Z
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@kim ohhh alright
(DIR) Post #AjrVkDmCSvHOKE4eyO by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T18:01:53.529Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink So, I dont judge people who, wanting to know something but not finding help, go the self diagnose route.However allow me to ask, if it was legally possible would you self diagnose yourself for something and take meds for it? Or would you let a professional do it?Personally I'm not pro self diagnosis, I'm perfectly fine with someone saying "I'm pretty sure I have X" or "I suspect I may have Y".In my case, I'm pretty damn sure I have ADHD, I have some suspicion of being on the spectrum.But if self diagnosis was truly reliable we wouldn't need professionals. Even professionals don't do it, so I doubt I should.
(DIR) Post #AjrVuexwEO6ZXzXfay by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-12T18:04:35.225256Z
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@fiore interesting, this post doesn't have double spaces.
(DIR) Post #AjrW2s13au2SL3uqci by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:04:21.929138Z
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@raccoon yes this is exactly my friend’s take on the matter . but i mean , what is the harm in it ? if theres 1 thing my experience as a trans person (and a woman !!) has taught me , is that the most fundamental thing to require , as a human , is bodily autonomy . why should drugs be gatekept behind a medical system made by cis neurotypical people , a system which has proven time and time again to suffer from strong biases , and that most times just acts as another tool that stigmatizes and “other”s people with experiences that differ from the “norm” ?
(DIR) Post #AjrW4QkPwrMeLXsQee by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:04:39.467286Z
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@mischievoustomato yes it does
(DIR) Post #AjrWALLyussnM2Gb1E by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-12T18:07:25.058561Z
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@fiore yeah, it has them on some places actually, but its not as noticeable as other times
(DIR) Post #AjrWCT8kw8jg5F5tjM by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:06:06.547551Z
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@mischievoustomato trying to act serious !!
(DIR) Post #AjrWEWKs1kt4ZajrkG by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
2024-07-12T18:08:10.040600Z
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@fiore ganbatte
(DIR) Post #AjrX6lIKcs5mbaPpBo by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T18:15:58.500Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Because taking the wrong meds because "I'm pretty sure I have ADHD" would likely cause more harm than help.Because people who studied years have tools and knowledge to know how much and what people should take to benefit from it.Being transgender isn't a disorder/disease, you dont need a "diagnosis" to know you're a woman. You may seek support in your self discovery and that's valid, but ultimately you're not looking for someone to diagnose you with a case of the trans. Hormones are something that we should have far less problems deciding to take and, when we do, we should have the right to be supported to take them in the best way possible to achieve what we want.I think being transgender is irrelevant to this topic because we're talking about something that shouldn't require a diagnosis at all and comparing it with something that should.Did you know? Autism, BPD and ADHD share a bunch of symptoms, even professionals need to study the patient well before giving a diagnose for one of those.
(DIR) Post #AjrXGS4cwbEXt7crlg by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:18:01.079790Z
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@raccoon yes but , would a self diagnosis give me access to frugs ? (no it wouldnt ) so i mean . thats not rlly a concern here . however i do think that all drugs should be freely accessible to all . but this is just what i think and isnt rlly that relevant when we talk about someone self diagnosing in our current world
(DIR) Post #AjrXGsGZYoEn7hPlzs by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T18:17:28.796Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink I love you fiore, ease know that I'm not trying to be an asshole at all.
(DIR) Post #AjrXJjihn8uZUCwEvA by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:18:37.756411Z
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@raccoon oh yea i know !!!! i feel the same <3 i explicitly asked fo r this dont worry , its just my way of trying to understand things <33
(DIR) Post #AjrY9fulBZp0k3LKl6 by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T18:24:20.430Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Hard disagree on all drugs be something we can just go and take but yeah, irrelevant to this topic.Yeah I mean, I know you wouldn't have access to meds, but I just think there's a difference between "self diagnosed BPD" and "professionally diagnosed BPD"I will always have strong doubts about the self diagnose while I will tend to believe someone who says "I think I have BPD" more than a self diagnosed. This because you come across people with a list of self diagnosed disorders almost like they're trying to catch all the Pokémon, and I know you ain't the type, but people like that stained it for everyone in my eyes.
(DIR) Post #AjrYJwC7Vnbm84MB7I by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T18:29:50.875050Z
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@raccoon but i mean . all im saying is , nobody is being able to tell me WHY its bad . like , what are the bad things that can come out of it ?? even assuming i am someone just listing the dsm5 on my bio , what harm am i actually doing ?? nobody seems able to respond to this in a satisfactory way .. i just dont get it
(DIR) Post #AjrbblDpLUerApLTjU by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T18:58:40.419Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink I think the bad thing is that you may start self identifying with your self diagnosed thing and read too much into it, eventually going like "oh I probably do X because I'm BPD" and then just accept it.
(DIR) Post #AjrbkgkZLEQnuVuw2i by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:08:17.869989Z
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@raccoon yea but like , still !! i cant see the “bad” in this ? like , its childish ig ? at worst ? but seems pretty harmless to everyone involved . and , if you go around justifying your shitty behaviour with mental health conditions , thats just as bad as if you did it with medically diagnosed ones , so yea this doesnt rlly answer me ,,
(DIR) Post #Ajrd7QkD7Hymss9pvE by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:24:38.469Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink OK, I apologize but I believe I would explain better in Italian (fiore and raccoon mother tongue).Io soffro di disturbo di personalità borderline, uno dei sintomi è una tendenza a vedere le cose in estremi.Quella persona si è comportata bene con me? È una divinità. Quella persona mangia la pizza in un modo che non mi piace? È feccia.Ora, facciamo finta che io non sappia di avere bpd e un mio amico mi fa notare che tendo a fare così, io posso reagire in modo costruttivo e cercare di migliorare o posso sbattermene i coglioni. Se sono il tipo che se ne sbatte i coglioni e penso di avere bpd a quel punto mi sento anche giustificato nel mio fottermene, perché tanto è il mio bpd e che ci vuoi fare?Se ho una diagnosi invece il mio terapeuta mi può aiutare a migliorare con terapie varie. E credimi, per esperienza personale la differenza la sento con la terapia.Certo, una persona che se ne sbatte è negativa in entrambi i casi, ma con una diagnosi e uno specialista che ti segue allora hai meno possibilità di fregartene.Quel che penso è che una diagnosi fatta in casa può dare più spazio a persone del cazzo per un comportamento negativo, questo non significa che ti reputi una persona del cazzo, anzi.Il mio punto di vista riguarda la pratica della diagnosi fai da te in generale, non per ogni singolo individuo.Inoltre qua in Italia ho avuto esperienze positive sia per quanto riguarda me che mia moglie, farsi una diagnosi e poi farsi aiutare non costa uno sproposito quindi penso che una diagnosi fatta da esperti sia superiore sotto ogni punto di vista.
(DIR) Post #AjrdYYNKqv62N0OJmq by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:28:31.360909Z
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@raccoon però .. non è colpa del processo di autodiagnosi se una persona decide di comportarsi di merda e erroneamente giustificarsi tramite un disturbo per i suoi comportamenticioè , sono molto felice che tu ti trovi bene con il sistema , però le persone che si giustificano in quel modo sono persone del cazzo in generale , misdiagnosed or not .. poi , autodiagnosticarsi non esclude dal cercare aiuto , anzi !! può aiutare a presentarsi con già un certo livello di conoscenza di un disturbo , e può aiutare l’individuo a cercare supporto in posti specifici che si rivolgono nello specifico a individui con una certa diagnosi , invece che affidarsi esclusivamente a personale psichiatrico .. quindi still , non sto molto vedendo delle cose negative che sono inerentemente colpa dell’autodiagnosi e che potrrebbero cambiare in un qualunque modo con una diagnosi “ufficiale “
(DIR) Post #Ajrdj1YRDibNlNZqhE by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:30:25.042066Z
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@liliththehellhound thanxx yea this is wher i am currently as well .. its just , there s so much stuff to do for getting a adhd diagnosis at this age , it just feels so overwhelming and i honestly dont see any way in which it would help me unless i wanted to start taking medication (which i kinda dont want ) , so ..
(DIR) Post #AjrdoRe3dwk686n56W by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:31:24.461047Z
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@lewdum thanxx for sharing <3 and for boosting
(DIR) Post #AjrebvFKNLue7qoeVE by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:40:46.344Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Il problema, per come la vedo io, è che si tratta di una cosa che non dovrebbe esistere per evitare che persone del cazzo ne facciano uso, ma visto che il vaso di pandora ormai è aperto ci si può fare poco.Io continuo a pensare che sia una cosa pericolosissima in generale, senza andare a prendere ogni singolo individuo.Mi rendo conto che remo contro corrente ma penso che se le persone in generale smettessero di vederla come una opzione valida allora anche le persone che ne fanno uso negativo magari non lo fanno più, non so se mi spiego.Oh poi magari sono coglione io eh però la vedo così.Comunque ho condiviso il mio punto di vista e non è che voglio puntarti una pistola contro se non lo condividi. (Dov'è che abiti..? :blobraccoon_woozy:)Comunque, spero che tu non abbia niente e che non ci sia bisogno di diagnosi di nessun tipo :)
(DIR) Post #Ajreg15Wb6zfP0BPUG by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:41:05.337893Z
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@raccoon hahaha va bene grazie mille <3 io invece vengo a spararti right fuarrrking now !! haha grazie per avere condiviso
(DIR) Post #AjresDvQh9iMguHXLk by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:44:04.938Z
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@raccoon @fiore@brain.worm.pink mamma miaa I cooka da meatball :tomo_goober:
(DIR) Post #AjretazGRAHsVPjIcy by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:43:32.480849Z
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@dushman @raccoon bibidibabidibibidibubidi
(DIR) Post #Ajreu7e90i09nT6On2 by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:45:07.548Z
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@dushman @fiore@brain.worm.pink Ma vai a cagare sulle ortiche.
(DIR) Post #AjreuixEIiFjVNJfAu by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:45:02.723Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink look into self diagnosing with adhdBest thing you can do is a find a good psychiatrist who won't dismiss your concerns tbh. I found one and it has helped a lot with my myriad of mental disorders lol.
(DIR) Post #AjrexvDj9V66PsYdNY by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:44:19.515392Z
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@dushman yea but , thats expensive and takes quite a bit of effort .. i tried already haha
(DIR) Post #AjreyWYEMEU0CBR1yS by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:45:52.168Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink that and a therapist
(DIR) Post #Ajrf0SAdcCufBlJsrQ by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:44:46.847780Z
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@dushman yea next thing i do is prolly gonna talk abt this to my therapist
(DIR) Post #Ajrf4qpTsPCWpCWLHk by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:46:55.822Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Right do you live in the US? I am seeing one privately but you can for free also, not expensive here even privately.
(DIR) Post #Ajrf7ewEXlzSoX1By4 by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:46:05.049561Z
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@dushman yea but ,the options run scarcer if i go to a free one im in italy
(DIR) Post #AjrfR1zH4X2Hnkg4wq by themilkman@shitposter.world
2024-07-12T19:47:06.877878Z
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@fiore >self-diagnosisneveryou are 100% going to selection bias that shit, get a psychiatrist
(DIR) Post #AjrfR2vlZ3p8jA2n7Q by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:49:34.083920Z
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@themilkman i might in the future , but this isn t rlly helpful , can you give a real reason as to why it would even be bad to misdiagnose in the first place ?
(DIR) Post #AjrfREyKnL0a4bL0mu by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:47:54.902Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Decided to go for this because he is genuinely really good
(DIR) Post #AjrfRS1eGKNqYdzLG4 by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:48:09.044Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink Is it that expensive to see one privately in Italy?
(DIR) Post #AjrfVI6V5pgEwc5Zrc by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:50:21.393847Z
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@dushman yea private healthcare is expensivei mean , it might not be , but i sure as hell cant afford it
(DIR) Post #AjrfVap7Ug4D0D6SuW by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:49:01.823Z
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@dushman @fiore@brain.worm.pink You're lucky bro, if I was your psychiatrist I would have kicked you out cause my paycheck ain't good enough.
(DIR) Post #AjrfVm5pasyDxE0SzA by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:49:26.272Z
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@raccoon @fiore@brain.worm.pink Hey I'm not that messed up
(DIR) Post #AjrfVzuIEa3knUiRwe by raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:50:34.276Z
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@dushman @fiore@brain.worm.pink Dude they could write a whole book just with me and you.
(DIR) Post #AjrfWCz1cIZLLw1ucq by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:51:03.633Z
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@raccoon @fiore@brain.worm.pink hmmm maybe
(DIR) Post #Ajrfbnz1TlkTYPhJIW by vriska@lizards.live
2024-07-12T19:53:13Z
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@raccoon @dushman @fiore imagine the poor receptionist "is that a proprietary patient portal software? Yknow ive never personally had a problem remembering medical information
(DIR) Post #AjrfiurqHZ2UvqjIpc by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T19:52:49.001817Z
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@vriska @raccoon @dushman > the receptionist blushes , instantly falling in love
(DIR) Post #AjrfjfvhJ338tPtXrk by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:54:33.433Z
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@vriska@lizards.live @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @fiore@brain.worm.pink The receptionist when I start compiling Gentoo on the office PC
(DIR) Post #AjrfmalKyRJFjhRKLY by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:55:01.994Z
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@vriska@lizards.live @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest @fiore@brain.worm.pink sounds just like me fo real
(DIR) Post #Ajrfmz2AjV2J0rV6v2 by dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest
2024-07-12T19:54:43.321Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink @vriska@lizards.live @raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest real
(DIR) Post #AjrgHaejQ62oNn8BtI by themilkman@shitposter.world
2024-07-12T19:59:46.563824Z
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@fiore if you think you have ADHD and you don't have it, you will start to subconciously imitate the symptoms, it's an entire mindfuck you don't want to deal with.you will end up with problems that you start to believe are unsolvable, and then you will lose focus from actually fixing them.a proper psychiatrist is much less prone to selection bias and the like, if you try to self-diagnose you will diagnose yourself 99% of the time, regardless if you have ADHD or not, selection bias is super strong.
(DIR) Post #AjrgQb6L8LgMN0L7OS by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-12T20:00:42.269271Z
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@themilkman mhm ok thank you this makes sense , i didnt think abt this before and it might be something i fall for .do you have any research abt it tho ? id like to know how common / studied this actually is
(DIR) Post #AjsbdDr4ZJr1QPMKcS by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T20:19:32Z
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@liliththehellhound @fiore as someone who brought up my concerns about having ADHD, I was completely brushed off.I described to my previous psychiatrist about how I was be sitting, thinking of things I needed/wanted to do. Most of them weren’t really difficult tasks, but I could not get my brain to initiate doing them. I would then become stressed by that fact and get depressed. >>
(DIR) Post #AjsbdG7o84QeStCiyu by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T20:19:33Z
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<< I also talked about I could then hyperfixate on things like games to the point where I ignore bodily needs like food and sleep. Their takeaway from that? “Oh, well it sounds like you don’t have a deficit in attention.” 🙃I felt completely invalidated of my issues. This is not to say that they’re all bad, but some of them are ignorant in certain fields, or sometimes even biased. It definitely takes effort to find a good doctor or therapist that will hear you out and help.
(DIR) Post #Ajsbg1Wsqr5o4BFfJA by Yuki@groupe-tazor.com
2024-07-12T20:25:28.276Z
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@fiore@brain.worm.pink of course nothing beats a diagnosis made by a professionnal but I reckon it does depend what's your goals with the diagnosis, how accessible healthcare is in your area, or you just want to put a name on your conditions
(DIR) Post #AjsbjhOxd0EEndIYc4 by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T21:06:25Z
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@raccoon @fiore The last professional I went to for my concerns with ADHD was not a good one. I described to my previous psychiatrist about how I would be sitting, thinking of things I needed/wanted to do. Most of them weren’t really difficult tasks, but I could not get my brain to initiate doing them. I would then become stressed by that fact and get depressed.>>
(DIR) Post #AjsbjkBFIS2ZPxu99U by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T21:06:26Z
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<< I also described about how I would hyperfixate on my interests to the point of ignoring needs like using the restroom, eating food, even sleeping.What was their takeaway you ask? “Oh, well that doesn’t sound like a deficit in attention to me.” Just taking the literal words in the diagnosis, when it’s more of a dysregulation of attention than it being a deficit. This is something I had been researching for months before bringing it, and I was completely disregarded. >>
(DIR) Post #Ajsbjm3sIpKhFgTHwO by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T21:06:27Z
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<< this isn’t to say that all healthcare professionals are bad, but, at least where I’m located, many are either biased or are ignorant of certain disorders. The system is a mess.It takes effort to find a good therapist or any other healthcare provider that will actually listen and take you seriously. Especially if you have a uterus.Now as far as meds go, I’m not 100% where I would fall, as some medication needs things like bloodwork done regularly to make sure things are in parameters. >>
(DIR) Post #AjsbjnujPnCuzuD0y0 by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T21:06:28Z
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<< I have tried adderall a few times myself without a prescription. This isn’t something I’m necessarily telling others to do. I just happened to be in a situation that has allowed me to do so. Honestly, I felt pretty normal for once. No random racing thoughts distracting me or bringing my mood down, and if it does happen, it’s much easier to regulate back to normal. It’s honestly crazy lol >>
(DIR) Post #Ajsbjq2xUAybc04c4G by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-12T21:06:28Z
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<< In the end, I think healthcare should be free for anyone, and people’s concerns should be taken seriouslySorry for several different post. I had many words
(DIR) Post #Ajsbn7ObRFuQHulGUK by Badgeryiff@thicc.horse
2024-07-12T23:48:37Z
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@DeiWildcat @liliththehellhound @fiore I rawdogged adhd without seeking pro help up to a few years ago. Had suspected/assumed I had it for decades, but couldn't let go of the notion that I was just "lazy, unfocused, not trying hard enough, needing to relax and not stress so much about little things, etc."That just turned it into ADHD + depression from years of undo self loathing, trying to function without any help from people who know their shit :/ so I don't recommend *only* self-diagnosing
(DIR) Post #AjsbpipREe2QxlYTAW by DeiWildcat@packmates.org
2024-07-13T00:04:25Z
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@Badgeryiff @liliththehellhound @fiore Honestly, I think everyone should have a therapist that they see regularly. It’s shown to be pretty healthy for you. You can always ask them what their approach is first and let them know what you’re expecting out of them. I want find one again, but other things need have to come first. But yeah, I get the self loathing a lot. Hopefully I can get things sorted soon
(DIR) Post #AjscIHGamzShsXs9EO by fiore@brain.worm.pink
2024-07-13T06:49:04.485959Z
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@DeiWildcat @Badgeryiff @liliththehellhound thx yall , i do have a therapist , so ill probably talk abt this to her . very insightful thread thx for sharing your experiences <3