Post Ajp4EcPcFUXkO1ITT6 by sickburnbro@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #Ajp1UpBoD9XWmksIvw by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:14:22.647335Z
       
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       the question is how many of them have to fall off the edge before it's a bigger problem than breast cancer
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp44tpecw4zW9qFpw by TeaTootler@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:43:18.402955Z
       
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       @sickburnbro they just need to start suiciding after 40 so we don’t have to look at or deal with them
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4EcPcFUXkO1ITT6 by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:45:03.722342Z
       
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       @TeaTootler they will, and thats when things will get crazy.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4Pft3fa6qLhL9xg by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:46:28.753804Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @TeaTootler but who will run the HR departments?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4ZFeO4VJnsD2pYu by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:48:47.435468Z
       
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       @sickburnbro As a connoisseur of cruelty, this is an amazing verbal dissection of grrlboss caste. I kneel.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4bs8RxNchoMM7ua by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:49:15.821872Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @TeaTootler this graph is ten years old. Imagine how bad things are now (tagging @TrevorGoodchild in case he has any inside info)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4qh6RG14HwFTzrk by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:51:56.489762Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro the aging millennial thot schadenfreude has started, and it’s everything I’ve hoped for so far
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4qh79DNdRyRoYyG by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:49:39.153750Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @TeaTootler i was thinking of how many pit bulls are going to flood into all the various animal rescues, and then remembered that these women also run those, so this will at least lead to the end of the pit bull race once there is nobody to cry about kill shelters.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4xgruWjK3Es1WTY by TeaTootler@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:53:12.555999Z
       
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       @sickburnbro women my age are so fucking mad I won’t date them and only go for zoomer girls
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp4xnjJ17bAWD3FXE by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:53:13.324711Z
       
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       @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler So, yeah, I don't have any good news for you ladsWe are now approaching almost one in five womenupi.com/Health_News/2020/09/04/Antidepressant-use-rising-in-US-mostly-in-women-CDC-says/7341599224503/
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5IxQu8URkh4X50K by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:57:03.188570Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @TeaTootler since that article cites data only up til 2018 (pre-Covid), the number is probably close to one in four now. Good lord
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5Jm2txUY9fOh8Ai by jb@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T13:57:05.733768Z
       
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       At this point I’m less concerned about them and more concerned about the fact that this shit has to be entering the water supply via waste water treatment
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5LZkgdaWo7L2AKW by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:57:31.493073Z
       
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       @jb @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler @sickburnbro yeah the fun never ends on Piss Earth does it
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5OnFOv0L4qDw0Ke by Eleutheria2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:57:42.429116Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler Remember this statistic the next time you're force-fed cable TV, and another anti-depressant ad with mind-numbing royalty-free AI pop music comes on.  Or, the pill that allegedly keeps you from having the shakes due to happy pill damage to brain, but has a side-effect of making the happy juice stop flowing.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5PxIP2nWOINtQ0W by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:58:18.926844Z
       
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       @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler Shit sucks
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5QoKLsHZWlmDDu4 by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:58:28.290846Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler >2018 data A lot's happened since then...
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5UFgMcqjyTj9JHk by ColdOnesLite@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:57:40.356061Z
       
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       @TeaTootler @sickburnbro I have been seeing a lot of "hag posting" in various online spaces and I'm wondering if its some kind of psy op to convince men to go after these used up womens
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5VArg1SerpJseKe by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:59:15.499911Z
       
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       @ForbiddenDreamer @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @TeaTootler the good news it it's like 80% "highly liberal women" so they are just removing themselves from the gene pool.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5WIIfraFhB22gUa by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:59:27.706708Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @TeaTootler why do you think I’m all in on Camacho 2024?Not the hero America needs, but the one it definitely deserves
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5We1l59nEYwIUBE by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T13:59:31.480787Z
       
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       @ForbiddenDreamer @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler I know man, the problem is these studied are always lagging 5 years behind
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5ZVfabzpBVjIIL2 by BronzeAgeHogCranker@geofront.rocks
       2024-07-11T13:59:27.775354Z
       
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       A lot will I presume but I think there will also be a number that will make their misery everyone's problem
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5aOnzcSE6VieHZY by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:00:12.170690Z
       
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       @DW2 @jb @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler no, it's worse than that, the fun WILL end, but only when you get used to it. Then it will transition to shitearth
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5fPXQK2lOEOHwQK by IAMAL_PHARIUS@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:01:06.352434Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @TeaTootler 
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp5mYDuQfNPC9Z70i by KarlDahl@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:02:24.040960Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler I'd like to see the cohorts Unmarried, childless professional past 25, I'd wager it's over 50%
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp64JVhs0o8mBMN6m by CatLord@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:05:36.565395Z
       
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       @sickburnbro this stuff is sad bro
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6ARXcvM8JQBBGrI by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:06:43.051345Z
       
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       @CatLord very, but I don't think things are quite as bad as many fear. I do think the hardest part is that there are a lot of both broken men and women out there and there has to be a way forward.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6GNpPdt1FduKffk by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:07:47.412195Z
       
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       @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @TeaTootler When the shit hits the fan and Zog finally implodes, the average life expectancy in America is gonna crater harder than the market cap of FTX tokens.I mean seriously, we already lose 2 1/2 Vietnam wars worth of people each year due to overdoses and suicides. And tens of millions of  adults need a fix of some sort just to make it through the day. Things get ugly fast when junkies are forced to quit cold turkey.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6HCDwGyLZwSBxqK by jb@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T14:02:51.846767Z
       
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       thotenfreude
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6KJRPtYnzC8yx96 by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:08:30.015414Z
       
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       @DW2 @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler The plummeting life expectancy post-USSR breakup is an excellent reference point
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6TAd61fM0TLfX4S by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:10:06.118547Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler the lifespan of the average Russian man dropped to 56 I think, which makes Putin’s revival of the country all the more impressive :putincheers:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6TbUs8Lonnf1qV6 by mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website
       2024-07-11T14:10:07.414701Z
       
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       @jb @DW2 @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro i assume the future is just straight up gonna be worse so i can cope a bit
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6gAV9oTulq89Zb6 by CatLord@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:12:27.041748Z
       
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       @sickburnbro yeah there's a lot of apocalyptic expectation that i don't agree with. it's 2024 and many of the previous predictions and expectations haven't measured up. stuff gets shittier and we bear it
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp6swlsApsV1K46bo by KarlDahl@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:14:45.683006Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @TeaTootler I'd expect a very rapid drop-off in the olds population. The number of people over 65 who are propped up on cocktails of diabetes-blood pressure-heart disease medications is staggering. Retvrn 2 tradition
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp7gqO6BJGHhYjo6i by Svantovit@detroitriotcity.com
       2024-07-11T14:23:46.779501Z
       
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       Judging by the past 30 years? Not many have to, but it's fast approaching....
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp7qOpBW0gT6zxnW4 by SKracket@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T14:25:18.581841Z
       
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       This kind of self absorption didn't come out of nowhere, it's a logical continuation of 4+ generations of men and women choosing distractions over family.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp7zyaVuvtQdVfT7I by EvilSandmich@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:27:01.004935Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler Just to note, my wife used to have to take this stuff and we accidentally discovered what everyone here pretty much knows: it's caused by birth control pills.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp84Md4TTYYMCxLrk by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:28:01.851842Z
       
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       @sickburnbro I don't care what women think. I used to believe they were rational, merely from a different perspective, now I'm taught better. They want the best men, but they don't reproduce. They want the richest household, but they'll wreck it at first chance. The truth is they are purely selfish, and you cannot negotiate with selfish people, only buy them off temporarily. Machiavelli said no nation can be built on mercenaries, so the terms are unacceptable. In the future it will only be our way, or real, perpetual suffering (the kind they don't enjoy).
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp8FMpO4mdm9txokS by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T14:16:42Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler Don't worry, it will be masively worse here.In the USSR there was somewhat decent public services in place that people could keep using (public transit, apartments, industry, etc.) and the people operating it were competent at doing so, if a bit "lazy" (they pretend to pay us so we pretend to work).We've got none of that here and I expect as things collapse, that will get worse as the rulers try to run off with everything of value they can get their grubbly little hands on.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp8WsFoUHT0Y3fk4e by TrevorGoodchild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:33:10.732920Z
       
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       @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro Dmitry Orlov specifically mentions this in his essays on collapse
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp8qgU7xEZZq3oVsG by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:36:45.630850Z
       
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       @DW2 @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler my dude, just imagine what is going to happen without a constantly supply of pharmaceuticalsNo PrEP, no hormone blockers, no birth control, no SSRIs
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp8rXb2UGaqYqSHVQ by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:36:54.997331Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro He also mentioned that many Russians had their own small gardens, which really helped during the lean years. In America we have “welcome to Costco, I love you.”
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp8vZAmZG8Ubo5qHw by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:37:38.314295Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler you say that, but many younger white people are leaning to garden just a little in part due to a fear of this.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp95KBP9f790w2Nkm by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:39:24.359483Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro actually it just occurred to me that America‘s runaway obesity epidemic might prevent famine and starvation deaths in a post-collapse scenario. There’s a lot of flab to burn off in Burgerland. What was that Bismarck quote again? Something about how God always looks out for idiots and the United States of America?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9DAy7IUqskkZ99c by DW2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:40:49.605834Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler well now I have to post this m.youtube.com/watch?v=FbqbjqHvSA0&pp=ygUOcmljaCBldmFucyBhaWQ%3D
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9DY63J9rkU1SJDU by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:40:53.748743Z
       
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       @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro >as the rulers try to run off with everything of value they can get their grubbly little hands on.Already happening. I think about this quite often. Once we've won we'll need some international system in place to catch them and kill them.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9GlD10sg61FFBCK by Eleutheria2@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:41:04.244827Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro waddleaway* obesity epidemic
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9HjSL12aMs8sGPY by CommanderCulture@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:41:07.436942Z
       
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       @DW2 @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @TeaTootler And that life expectancy projection probably isn't accounting for the incipient race war (we win) and (intentionally or not) botched forced deportations.It's gwain tuh get ugly, gents.  I look forward to toasting you IRL on the other side.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9QifjIfG12yQK7E by KarlDahl@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:43:16.580780Z
       
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       @EvilSandmich @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler Very true
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9eM7xuuvZBF8IwS by leespringfield1903@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:45:44.345807Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2o6jl3/til_that_otto_von_bismarck_once_said_there_is/
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9etze0MTQDHV8gy by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:45:50.173649Z
       
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       @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler this screenshot though is standard dumb GOP budget drama bullshit. The AF pays 90k for the bushings because that's how they adapted to retaining key US based suppliers for things that they don't need a lot of (right now)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9irDcGMDylYvFz6 by nugger@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:46:32.963665Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro CONTINENTAL ANGUS BARBIERI WATER FAST
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajp9lVt61kqnThahPM by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:47:01.822911Z
       
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       @leespringfield1903 @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler Bismark, more like BITCHmark!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpA351wcXzdOV6dtI by nugger@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:50:12.195769Z
       
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       @DW2 @TrevorGoodchild @teknomunk @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro OK IM GIVING UP MY WATER FAST, IM PREPPING FOR THE COLLAPSE STORING FOOD
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpBJnbSle10DpFulc by c@shitpost.cloud
       2024-07-11T15:04:14.425660Z
       
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       I think about this a lot too. Make deals with countries like New Zealand to extradite these criminals back to the west for justice. They can keep X% of the money stolen and returned. It shouldn't be much though. Alternative will be nuking every square inch of the haven country. Actually, don't make it a deal. Make it a threat.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpC4st6w9YCDqxj28 by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T15:06:36Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild It is a big part of why I work on making my garden productive with as few external imputs as possible, because when I need to use it to eat, those inputs won't be any more available than the food I won't be able to buy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpC5TrdSbM4tzYZN2 by SilverDeth
       2024-07-11T15:13:03.475793Z
       
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       @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @sickburnbro "The last official act of a failing empire is to loot the treasury."
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpC6qpRZ16iPoBWFs by jb@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T14:01:12.095154Z
       
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       > suiciding after 40Logan’s Run redux
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpCIPNvQQ7km5pAPI by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T15:08:11Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler That is where I first came across this and the implications it has for the Collapse of the American Empire.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpCNtCfzJ9EhfAz4q by BattleDwarfGimli@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T14:18:44.345977Z
       
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       These things are poison. It is Big Pharma, selling you a subscription to dementia, poor health and infinity medical costs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpCazSi1uRtsWvFnk by 0vtcast@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:37:29.709135Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @DW2 @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler World clean
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGKaFkO8wmsSI9cu by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:00:36.077007Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler Dude, that bag of bushings is like 100 bucks tops on aliexpress. You can overpay several times to keep in industry working, but not a thousand times. Clearly a lot of theft is going on there. Same with the FTX fraud of Ukraine money. If you see the collapse on the horizon so do they, and they're grabbing all they can.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGWhUbIW3ko017Xk by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:02:47.380360Z
       
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       @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler bushings are actually a critical component, and you can't slap just any ol piece of rubber in many components.They are often used to keep tolerances in machines at very specific places.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGZr4q7RufOrTJbM by TeaTootler@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:03:21.678733Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl they’re expensive because it’s an FAA certified part
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGjn2fyYCNmXCHke by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:05:09.321840Z
       
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       @TeaTootler @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl they're expensive most likely because they're part of a contract with a supplier that makes the part specifically to AF specifications and plays all their specific documentation and contract games.I have talked to people that run firms that do machined parts for the military and they've specifically said part of their advantage is that they have experience in doing all the dumb military paperwork.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGnbFbl2loMz3wfo by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:05:50.605078Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler >order 700 custom dimension bushings with a 0.00005" tolerance as a priority order that needs shipped in 24 hours Yea, that's gonna be expensive, blame the DoD for being retarded.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGqeBZIoq6LBct7I by mothersmurfer@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:05:49.234539Z
       
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       @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @sickburnbro @TeaTootler This means that 82% of women are running around untreated.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpGu5Fr7HpVAAGos4 by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:07:00.931086Z
       
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       @ForbiddenDreamer @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler if you're running a 50 year old airframe .. that's sometimes what happens.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpH4rO70tLdLDGqTw by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:08:57.631398Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler The custom part, sure. Not being able to maintain inventory for routine maintenance though?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHH71ih70zJqdh5s by NitroDubs@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:11:10.772886Z
       
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       @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler During “sequestration“ a few years ago the Air Force was cannibalizing parts off of museum aircraft.So yes, they struggle with routine maintenance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHQ3geTsvxZE3CoC by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:12:47.724576Z
       
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       @ForbiddenDreamer @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler for sure, but what I said initially is the primary thing. This stinks of the standard GOP "look at all this w-w-WASTE in the government" drama thing they always pull. Given that the government is dropping a trillion a quarter on invaders, I have 0 patience for it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHSfLJRs7cvxJS2S by NoDoxGregBrady@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:13:16.017276Z
       
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       @NitroDubs @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler "...and that's why we need to replace every airframe in the U.S. inventory with the F-35."
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHWbfd2nLyhch7a4 by NitroDubs@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:13:58.815452Z
       
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       @NoDoxGregBrady @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler We joke about this, but that’s not far from the truth.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHYgGEwoh7WEoAPw by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T16:12:09.341199Z
       
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       You guys wanted state provided gfs. As usual with states what they deliver is not quite what people want. You'll get state provided hags, "and you'll be happy".
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHYhQCdGG37QTdaK by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:14:21.011489Z
       
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       @BroDrillard monkey's paw and all that. But honestly, I think getting rid of easy divorce will radically change things anyway
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHhBuX9r3lzoiHtA by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:15:53.432283Z
       
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       @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @ForbiddenDreamer @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler there are definitely people that want to do that, yes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHirWhuvnPM2MjBo by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:16:11.692250Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler They're still just cylinders cut out from a metal slab. You can buy an entire wire EDM machine with that money. Between the metal, the wire, and the machine, I don't see where the cost is coming from, or what are they made of, rhodium?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHuYkxWuyicBbqYi by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T16:16:57.880864Z
       
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       Also during the collapse of the Eastern Block infrastructure and things just decayed, people didn't intentionally destroyed them. In America chimping niggers will destroy everything, and the next morning look around and complain about not receiving enough gibs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpHuZirwAttbzdgwK by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:18:18.235522Z
       
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       @BroDrillard @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild I would point to hurricane katrina as a counterpoint.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpI1ItwsQXNT71vbU by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:19:31.696597Z
       
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       @c @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro They probably won't emigrate to some tax haven, but somewhere where they're safe, like China, like the jews emigrated in the Middle Ages to Poland. Their host country would also be able to extract a large amount of the wealth through import tax, or all sorts of taxes. Their host country can also just outright kill them and keep 100%. I don't know what kind of deal will have to be made, but just having these traitors dead is for me reward in itself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIDFYH9kUSYTaaCO by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:21:40.954449Z
       
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       @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler who knows. There are Oilite bushings which are pretty cool, not as expensive as rhodium, but again, military specs for things can often times be pretty extreme.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIFZMYTEg2ZpDFvE by NoDoxGregBrady@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:22:06.230560Z
       
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       @NitroDubs @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler I don't even think it's a joke. I've heard that argument made."If we have one airframe, we can save money on maintenance because they will all use the same parts."
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIJdByAvwZbyCMPQ by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T16:21:57.509405Z
       
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       Could you clarify how do you mean that?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIJe4CvHKSKBZfwu by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:22:49.840849Z
       
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       @BroDrillard @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild propublica.org/article/post-katrina-white-vigilantes-shot-african-americans-with-impunity the left is STILL massively butthert about this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIS1EQgEt0UBLfRA by NitroDubs@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:24:21.379010Z
       
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       @NoDoxGregBrady @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler That’s how it will start, and then each specialized variant gets farther and farther away from the base airframe. Eventually you end up with a Hornet into Super Hornet situation where almost nothing interchanges.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIUKR8FR10czOKae by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T16:23:58Z
       
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       @dubbub @DW2 @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild The extra cost is coming from maintaining a workforce and equipment inside the borders of the US despite low volumes and the overhead in time and money of selling anything to the government.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIXfw8ldoaB6UWA4 by TeaTootler@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:25:22.698315Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @BroDrillard @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TrevorGoodchild I for one am looking forward to total nigger death
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIeXIrGVVxQdOA4m by NitroDubs@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:26:37.057916Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @NoDoxGregBrady @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Pre-Covid there was talk of a “digital century series” which was to build a brace of different and cheaper aircraft that would be continuously replaced. That talk seems to have stopped, last I checked.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIiO8rGiWcApY3Ae by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:27:18.644172Z
       
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       @dubbub @c @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild what kind of wealth are these people going to have that make them worth the trouble they'll bring for china?They would certainly make exceptions for people with billions of dollars, but this isn't 500 years ago, there isn't tons of just unused forest where you can let the weirdos with cash set up, and then also keep an eye on them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIilXoG79MksOnku by Diogenese_Shiplap@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:27:10.535655Z
       
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       @NoDoxGregBrady @NitroDubs @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler Nobody read this apparently, and proceeded as though their 'little mistakes' didn't cost thousands of lives.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIoMSURM4mgrZx8i by SpaceGhost_@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T16:27:37.268898Z
       
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       “We’re all one airframe, the F-35 airframe.“ :wojak_boomer:
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpIxrQ2hP5lJpxobA by NitroDubs@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:30:06.507059Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro The F-15 and F-16 are pretty unprecedented in that they’ve been top flight combat aircraft for 50 years, and still in production.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpJMkeazOYZZndj0K by BroDrillard@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-11T16:23:58.235245Z
       
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       Ah. That's not really a counterpoint. More an inevitable part of the process.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpJMldZKhKUcuAQ2i by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T16:27:43Z
       
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       @BroDrillard @DW2 @KarlDahl @sickburnbro @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild It is a counterpoint in that, without the government goons to step in and stop it from happening, the looters, rioters, gangs and similar destroying things will be shot dead and cease to be a problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpJYY4lZyq22eVRmi by ForbiddenDreamer@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:36:44.216238Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler And who knows what coating they have etc. A lot of the cost of milspec is in the testing and documentation and licensing to even be a military supplier. Of course, it's also a bribe of sorts to keep business domestic which runs at odds with the overall effort to make everything overseas.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpJhJnu0maGNsnf1c by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:38:19.414458Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild Idk, economic/investment citizenships/residencies range from 250k to 2mil rn, so maybe 10x - 100x that? Certainly a lot of if not everyone from the nomenklatura could manage the lower estimate, and when it comes to living hunted in a post-collapse society vs comfy upper-middle-class far away, the choice is obvious.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpJua3EupGoXUIW3M by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:40:43.232309Z
       
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       @dubbub @c @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild yes, but what I'm saying is that china doesn't need fucking dumb westerns that obviously were part of ruining THEIR OWN society invited in, in any large number. And they are well aware of this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpKkVI5rMpEpj0KcC by dubbub@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:50:06.411350Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @c @teknomunk @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild I guess that depends how prudent vs greedy they are, the latter outweighing the former certainly isn't unprecedented.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpL3aaQOXPGl9gAvg by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T16:53:31.444546Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro They could get faster and more maneuverable aircraft, but the focus has shifted to aeronautics and stealth. The mistake was designing the F-35 to be a dog fighter when they should’ve gone with separate designs: A heavier, faster design and a lighter, more maneuverable design.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpLLWBjUCO0Kag9pI by Escoffier@poa.st
       2024-07-11T16:53:06.751929Z
       
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       @sickburnbro Would be nice if women were able to anticipate the consequences of their actions, sadly no.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpMHG6XRXP9FBmYl6 by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T16:40:07Z
       
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       @NitroDubs @dubbub @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NoDoxGregBrady @sickburnbro @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild While at the same time making the base price 10x what it would be with specialized frames, because now it has to do everything, even things that aren't needed in partixular places.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpMVGA61i07Ta7eoS by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:09:43.762345Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It is absolutely a dog fighter that’s why they gave it supermanueverability.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpMY7deAloDuUJFwm by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T17:10:16.666334Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro supermaneuverability is ivan's cope, not USAF's
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpMexxUYpcHuor5kG by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:11:28.308226Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro US put it as a requirement so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpMpzFs55937bhuiW by nugger@poa.st
       2024-07-11T17:13:30.117699Z
       
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       @NitroDubs @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @KarlDahl @TeaTootler STOCKPILING AN INVENTORY OF REPLACEMENT PARTS IS AN UNJUSTIFIABLE INVESTMENT TO THE BEAN COUNTERS BECAUSE THE PARTS WILL JUST SIT THERE DOING NOTHING AND PLUS YOU'LL NEED STORAGE FACILITIES AND PEOPLE RESPONSIBLETHEY'RE DOING JUST IN TIME 5S ON A FUCKIN MILITARY
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpNN0fVqWwn3uRnNY by KarlDahl@poa.st
       2024-07-11T17:19:28.475430Z
       
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       @nugger @NitroDubs @ForbiddenDreamer @sickburnbro @dubbub @teknomunk @TrevorGoodchild @DW2 @TeaTootler The Marine Corps has an even worse time. Their Harrier fleet is fucked
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpNbgBAJ9NVrJFPPs by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:22:05.294861Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro A lot of effort for an ohshit capability. The bigger problem is its speed is significantly less than a sukhoi. If it gets caught by on the sukhoi will be dancing around it and maneuvering won’t save it then. I can’t think of any reason they’d add SM as a requirement instead of making it a big fast stealth fighter if they didn’t intend for it to dogfight. Think of it like this: If they made it faster and bigger, it’d outrun anything that could out dogfight it, and it could carry more internally which is good for BVR and CAS. It’s a mutt by design and it’s hindered by its dual purpose.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpOzL2GfcxrBgvnOq by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:37:33.822118Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro If it’s not a dog fighter why didn’t they stick with the nighthawk? It’s a slow stealth aircraft with good avionics and an internal bomb bay. That’s all you need for BVR. They clearly intended it to dogfight but they made it slow, probably because it’s too heavy for its size, but if they made it bigger it’d lose maneuverability, which is a priority for the design.Logically they want it dogfighting or expect it to dogfight.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpQ6nyzXmUIwlWUkq by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:50:07.690240Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Why would you design a small airframe with anything except dogfighting in mind? If it’s BVR its major characteristics are going to be avionics, armament, and presumably range and speed. Larger frames offer improvements for all those areas. Lighter, smaller frames are better for shorter range, closer engagements.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpQxNNpAdnBnXCqQK by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T17:59:37.860670Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I think they ran out of space because they crammed too much into too small a frame.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpRVAuu1k42ynnLLE by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:05:43.537724Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 200 rounds is more than other guns carry. MiG-21 had 60 rounds. Why would they bring 200 rounds if they didn’t expect prolonged engagements?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpRflm5qSOaBjj5KC by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:07:41.023211Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro the MiG cannon ammunition count was due to a particularly high caliber which was a doctrinal holdover from WWIIF-35 has an afterthought gun because they tried to delete the gun off F-4 back in the day because lmao we got missiles now and the fighter jocks all screamed and elled about how it was a terrible decision, so they glued a gun back in and there it's remained ever since
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpRyuoGTeQXiCs50S by MisterLister@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:11:08.727748Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Ⓨ'ⓐⓛⓛ ⓓⓞⓘⓝⓖ ⓒⓞⓚⓔ ⓘⓝ ⓗⓔⓡⓔ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpS6AlJZ5RvDMx4sq by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:11:20.011248Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro why would you design a stealth aircraft for dogfighting?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpS6C9oNUdfXdQ9ho by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:12:25.751589Z
       
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       @EssentialUtinsil @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro You ask the USAF. I wouldn’t, but I didn’t give a stealth aircraft supermaneuverability and a gun.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpSACptnPf6nz1Gjo by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:13:10.134612Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Doesn’t distract from the F-35 though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpSZDp9GBdf6nb4Ou by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:17:40.555513Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Why a small airframe then if it’s not meant to maneuver with enemy fighters?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpSgfDXoI4U5xYYvg by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:19:03.140174Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro single engine can only support so much and it has to operate from the new jap car- i mean HELICOPTER DESTROYERS :^)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpSjmu5gnmWnnwlXc by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:19:34.547395Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Why would you design a small, slow fighter for something that’s never supposed to get within visual range? Why the SM requirement?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpTIaukG2YDkkqlAO by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:21:54.470457Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro who's claiming the F-35 has 'supermaneuverability'?  compared to what?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpTIc7XlwNnUjqUkq by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:25:52.398336Z
       
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       @EssentialUtinsil @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It basically means it can do special maneuvers and it has to meet a lot of maneuverability requirements to get the designation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpTOEhjkK6qblSJU0 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:26:53.835507Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I don’t get why they’d make so many accommodations for VTOL.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpTe8hTpxlgcUv1yS by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:29:47.807851Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro harrier is OLD and VTOL/ STOVL is really good for unprepared runways smaller ships etc. basically they wanted to make it jack of all trades for everyone and it does that ok enough i guess. tho as far as a i know it is normally operated with a normal take off run and landingdid get to see a vertical landing in heavy fog though and that was really cool. couldn't figure out what i was looking at as this weird angular black block silently hove down out of the mist. only once it came full into view and i could ID it did the sound of the engines arrive. up til then it looked like an alien
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpUEMWTvFVJun2xea by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:36:19.347358Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It’s pretty clear they should never have gone through with the program tbh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpULSLMgC3HzjEIPg by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:37:37.658109Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro i think it's probably fine just terribly corrupt. F-15EX would have been excellent for our needs as wellwish we kept the F-22 tooling rather than dumping into the sea and telling the japs to get fucked. oh well hindsight is 20/20.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpUUb0NqTAdSqm2vg by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:39:15.141366Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Has it made a profit? They spent trillions I don’t think they’ve sold trillions. Our allies are buying fewer of them because of the cost. I don’t think they’re selling like F-16s.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpUczFbaKJyydtXqi by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:40:45.364973Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I agree with this. They should’ve used more frames for the wildly different roles the branches wanted.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpUtX4Pc300V2Y5qa by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:43:43.545478Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro That’s what the article says.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpV2VcgMYmGcKrJSK by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:45:22.348139Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro You didn’t read it. It says the cobra maneuver is a test and it used the su as an example.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVFYKvaKGknXm3bE by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:47:43.892710Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro The program ran 1.7 trillion in cost if they sell for 100mil they’ll need 1700 to cover the costs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVFuCWIGcEbq0eY4 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:47:47.303153Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro They’re all based off the same frame with different capabilities and priorities.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVIW3EXRReZwuWZ6 by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:48:18.111272Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro parts compatibility between the A and B is like 30% lmao
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVKO3bEOfAMfySEy by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:48:35.459774Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I’m told F-35 is an export model but it’s replacing the F-22. I think foreign sales are a cope.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVUcBfYBpV5Icqq8 by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T18:50:29.272255Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro we literally can't make F-22 anymore. it's archeotech. so we are just replacing it with the best plane we have that we actually can build
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVrLfr70BAWwaM0e by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:54:33.989120Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Well Israelis pay with our money so they’re okay with it.People aren’t buying them in the same quantity as the F-16 because they’re more expensive. 2000 F-16s is one thing but it’s the same budget fighting over a number of aircraft. No one’s buying as many. You have to ask if a 1.7 trillion dollar market for this type of fighter exists, especially when euros would rather prioritize their own fighter and they’re our biggest potential buyer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpVxP01f48Ea5uG0m by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:55:40.813205Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro F-22 is going out of service.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpWI2a4Czv98FbbG4 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T18:59:23.481967Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro That’s the USAF vs the VTOL one. They have vastly different capabilities but they’re the same airframe
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpWXbvN5HLf5lzjwO by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:02:12.284686Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Lots of people are buying F-35s but how many? Most, only a couple dozen. They want F-35s to compliment their airforce not replace them. F-16 has sold thousands over decades but it cost significantly less per unit to get to that point. The French will buy F-35s but not replace their airforce with F-35s like the airforce wants.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpWeuq39zFxmRzO2S by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:03:31.787103Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro That’s what going out of service means. Each year there’s fewer of them and there won’t be more in the future. These are old planes. The F-35 has a long projected life because they expect to make more for a long time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpX113uhYNNSB0nqq by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:07:31.181804Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Look at the actual numbers. I see one order over 100 and others revised down. Nowhere near the scale of the F-16. The bulk of sales will be to the US.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpX8Zots42RHQaw40 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:08:53.116796Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Why would they care about maneuverability in a BVR aircraft? Out maneuver the enemy missiles. Avionics, speed, armament and range are favored by BVR. You would only make the design decisions Lockheed has made if you anticipate dogfighting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpXCUNK3ZMhYGYqJc by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T19:09:37.336464Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro different era tbhback in the cold war these nations built big airforcesf-16 was cheap and capablenow these countries are going smaller with more emphasis on sensors to make up the gapniggas is broke
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpXxPcTYUxmPf1WIy by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T19:12:16Z
       
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       @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @dubbub @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @sickburnbro @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild Because they want Sci-Fi technology but aren't smart enough to realize that is just essentially science-flavored magic?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpXyWPPnYVxl8RZ1k by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T19:05:17.598510Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro there isn't some qualification or certification for 'supermaneuvrability' (even says so on the wikipedia)also, what does it have to do with the F-35 supposedly being designed for dogfighting?  if your 100 million dollar stealth fighter with bonkers levels of situational awareness ends up in a dogfight, you already fucked up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpXyXWXeXoFDWmlm4 by teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work
       2024-07-11T19:15:00Z
       
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       @EssentialUtinsil @Griffith @transgrammaractivist @dubbub @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @sickburnbro @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild Unless I am mistaken, the G tolerance of the squishy human in the pilot's seat is the main limiting factor in the maneuvering capability of fighter aircraft.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpYsyOivJbGmX2Qs4 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:28:28.000109Z
       
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       @EssentialUtinsil @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Well yes they fucked up. it only has four hard points on the internal bay. It’s slower than it’s near peers. Its main BVR capabilities are the avionics and stealth. It’s designed like a dog fighter which everyone insists is a multirole BVR aircraft. It does have BVR capabilities but it is not optimized for BVR. Lockheed also tried to optimize it for close range encounters which is evident in its design and the other choices they made.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpZGYCXyMYSU8aLrs by grey@poa.st
       2024-07-11T19:32:45.936138Z
       
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       @TeaTootler @sickburnbro I mean Canada has that in place already.  Wait for the MAID commercials aimed squarely at post wall thots.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpZQsx7fu5VjvIaJs by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:34:36.357969Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Please explain how this is all wrong. It’s not.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpZSAscVU1Ld7o7PM by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:34:50.969787Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro depends on the plane.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpZfwcWJwZfSUqJsW by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:37:19.778415Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro All models are significantly slower than the Su-35. One model being extremely slow doesn’t mean the others are fast.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpaObZ3S85rBbW9PU by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:45:23.356174Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I think you know damn well it’s made for dogfighting and the direction of the planes design proves it. Different models existing doesn’t change it’s a multi role aircraft with different approaches to air superiority. Pure BVR is cope and not what the plane was designed for. You can see that in EVERYTHING from the small bomb bay to supermeuverability. We’ve already built BVR aircraft and none of them were pure BVR and all of them were very different and much more like what I’m describing than what you’re describing. You’re just wrong.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpakluVfPf7e27gbw by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:49:24.146160Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It can’t dipout retard it’s slow.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpaxRGHkYVvMtLf2O by sickburnbro@poa.st
       2024-07-11T19:51:43.307133Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub good argument gentlemen, but what we need is fortunately what might happen, which is an actual repeated test of these theories.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpbH3ISYomMpliZFY by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:55:14.125350Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro So was the F-4. Why did they even bother equipping it with sidewinders? It was clearly anticipated it would get within visual range but they figured the missiles would handle it. Look at the F-4. Look at the F-14. You build big, stuff it with avionics, and make it fast. Make a stealth F-14 and you’ve got a great aircraft. The F-35 is clearly optimized differently.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpbNjelyqcRwrLEVU by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:56:26.918461Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Interception doesn’t require long range.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpbdpCF9QnBlNfXay by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T19:59:20.186750Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It literally doesn’t.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpcku4tV4nUssAeGm by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:11:50.402738Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro F-35 might not always have the capability. It’s not faster, so if a su gets within range it’s stuck. It can fire, but it doesn’t have that much in terms of internal armament. If they fly over enemy territory they can be intercepted, simple as, and they can’t run.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpczGcgTWeGrOpCV6 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:14:25.784701Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro If the F-35 goes on the offensive like it’s designed to, it’ll get within VR. American airpower is designed so even while America is generally on the defensive, it can still attack behind enemy lines, because crippling industry and logistics is crucial to American doctrine. So it will find itself in VR engagements.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpd78fNwOloV5qFSi by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:15:51.454909Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro If that means cruise missiles stealth isn’t needed. If that’s precision guided munitions those aren’t long range compared to something like HIMARS. They still have to get within a couple dozen km.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpdA6ETRmZboufM3s by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:16:24.446980Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Literally every multi role has been employed in bombing like the F-35 is designed to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpdCtKTsRAifdo5wW by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T20:16:55.519225Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro stealth is always desired, it's a good tool to have. they're trying to acquire stealth fuel tankers now
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpeuzvSoRHrpDhVqK by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:36:04.267451Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Depends on the munition. ATACAMS is certainly longer range than laser guided munitions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpewFcLxMLYmXMLsu by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:36:19.043289Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Internal bay idiot holy cow
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpf2gx3F6yxIH712e by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:37:28.268067Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro For something like launching cruise missiles stealth is totally unnecessary.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpf9szcs42yfPkMyW by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:38:45.367000Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 80nm and that’s in ideal conditions. Practically it’s less than that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfDpHoatZqKU8LCa by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:39:29.291409Z
       
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       @Paultron @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist It would only be relevant if they went back to a stealth airbase. Tankers are different because they might be near the front line in a case where planes are flying into enemy territory.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfH3nH71ZwByOI0O by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T20:40:05.309227Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro well BUFF pilots sure would like to hope sobut there's been lots of talk for craft well behind lines of contention needing stealth like AWACs and fuel tankers
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfHHWm3AhKmqmJEG by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:40:06.469410Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro ATACAMS has 300km maximum range. What laser guided munition has a range close to that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfRRXxebyykyB9Xs by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:41:56.010133Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro A significant amount of the equipment on board is for precision bombing. You think you’d know this given what a proponent you are of it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfuS1YxS08dRrBJI by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:47:10.158935Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Not even a little bit
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpfynuTWslFfecKkS by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T20:47:58.940045Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It absolutely is. A significant portion of its possible missions as a multi-role aircraft involve precision bombing.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajph4mKkP1f4TRJokS by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:00:14.975222Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro The F-35 has a very long range. It is absolutely built for those missions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjphsA2B4cC6AYBDuq by Groomschild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:06:19.178847Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro A b52 is never going to fly in a modern air war. They are to slow and  big. If a B52 flys to war its will probably be a nuclear war where returning home doesnt matter
       
 (DIR) Post #AjphsB8wwvCnbqM96u by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:09:12.069511Z
       
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       @Groomschild @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro that'd be a terrible waste of the big rotary cruise missile magazine we made for her
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpiAW8ZdJURvvvOsa by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:12:29.551792Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 700nm with no tanks is not bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpiIJWiP2n78fw048 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:13:53.744553Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro This just strengthens my thesis.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpiIL2In5eTovijwG by Groomschild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:12:58.873244Z
       
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       @Paultron @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Yeah but still with modern advances in anti missiles and anti air technology. A b52 is probably skirting the edge of enemy sam capabilities. If the enemy had fighters they might also just sacrifice some of them to shoot down a b52
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpiILzrDfI4ndaIlc by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:13:56.016615Z
       
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       @Groomschild @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro i don't believe there's any call for them to be used in contested airspace like they're bombing hanoi
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpiazFk0LHDlMtnNY by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:17:16.309797Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It absolutely is they designed it that way. There is no way to frame it as solely BVR from a design or doctrine point of view. It was designed with close range engagements in mind and anything else is cope. They would have chosen a larger, faster, heavier airframe if they intended it to never see the enemy, they didn’t. It’s absolutely expected to get in VR. No question.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpicd6jJMfvexT2Ui by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:17:35.486041Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 700-800 depending on load.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpilSZLrVaVa847Y8 by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:19:11.996539Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro no def not it's design is not particular agile like look at this wing profile man, this ain't meant to be an airshow hotroddogfights in general are probably entirely gone amongst first rate nations and even among the slavs
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpj1fAcmLxhITE42K by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:22:05.653328Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It is literally built as an air superiority aircraft. It is built as an air superiority and close air support aircraft. Those are its roles. Either you don’t know what those mean or you’re just making it up.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpj5jz0pM09NijrYu by Paultron@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:22:51.781181Z
       
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       @Griffith @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro air superiority hasn't meant designed for dogfighting for many yearsperhaps a lifetime
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpj5tWfLbGiyhYMlc by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:22:52.637583Z
       
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       @Paultron @teknomunk @transgrammaractivist @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @Groomschild @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro interception and ambush are always on the table even with good avionics.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpj8oywhKR9kpB0TY by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:23:23.592740Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 1400-1600 is the max flight range 700-800 is the mission radius.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpjKIMxmD725Csj7g by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:25:28.227608Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro 1400-1600
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpjs3DQcm6qvjWALI by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:31:33.534449Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro what do you think it is?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpjwVt7xjSX0z9Mem by BrokenSword@poa.st
       2024-07-11T14:31:13.392025Z
       
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       @sickburnbro @DW2 @jb @TrevorGoodchild @TeaTootler >shitearthPOOPERPOWER BY 2040! :indiancallcenter:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpk55wNnuAV98lTai by Hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world
       2024-07-11T21:33:57.068548Z
       
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       @EvilSandmich @DW2 @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro birth control pills also seep into the water supply and affect more men and women
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpkQo3gyBmi3aXJr6 by Groomschild@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:27:51.918042Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I thpught you would be someone that is capabable of giving and taking points from a argument
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpkQpdt56Kcy8Tjua by EssentialUtinsil@poa.st
       2024-07-11T21:32:49.304357Z
       
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       @Groomschild @Griffith @teknomunk @DW2 @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro first time arguing with @transgrammaractivist ?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpkjkxGjVoLvvZHTU by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:41:16.220958Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro It’s not. The max range is 1400-1600.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjplIhKuBBiWqTHk24 by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T21:47:34.339224Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro it’s built for survivability so yes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjpmWovaqm0mOnkAsa by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T22:01:20.553224Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro mission radius means it’s not going to be lost due to lack of fuel.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ajpo7eeS7XS1CCr0wS by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T22:19:12.024492Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro Well no but that’s unknowable until it gets there. Are you appealing to unknown factors? You don’t know or claim to know what its mission radius is. Im giving an estimate and you’re saying “well it won’t necessarily be exactly that.” Of course not. That’s your estimate though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjppmF2oKdw5bVAGtk by Griffith@5dollah.click
       2024-07-11T22:37:44.644647Z
       
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       @transgrammaractivist @teknomunk @DW2 @EssentialUtinsil @ForbiddenDreamer @KarlDahl @NitroDubs @NoDoxGregBrady @Paultron @TeaTootler @TrevorGoodchild @dubbub @sickburnbro I never said it was. I gave the correct estimate and you’re just making shit up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AkRMaEeHSjJMrpL1Ky by CaptainFuggetaboutit@nicecrew.digital
       2024-07-29T22:18:35.842492Z
       
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       YOU CAN DO BOTH