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 (DIR) Post #AjXGm96jPWJ3wywGO0 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-02T23:40:39Z
       
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       Friend of mine just casually mentions how he's diverting vast amounts of NYT microfilm from a landfill. IDK what he's up to, or why he insists on staying on facebook ... but this is why I must go over there from time to time. This could be an interesting project. Anyways, I know there are a lot of "archival arts people" around on here anything I should tell him?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXHK9kJXkVPmBfdkO by drewda@sfba.social
       2024-07-02T23:46:46Z
       
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       @futurebird Cool.If your friend hasn't already come across "Double Fold," it's quite relevant book and an interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Fold
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXHOeZIt8TWWpfHou by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-02T23:47:37Z
       
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       The bare min. would be to put them in some location that can serve as a time capsule. Is that how those scrolls ended up in jars out in the desert?And no joke, maybe putting them in sealed jars in a cave might be the move... though some research is needed for what would keep them shelf stable longest.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXI03XN19q0gNazGS by aprilfollies@mastodon.online
       2024-07-02T23:54:20Z
       
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       @futurebird I found this, if it helps.  (Scroll down to What Can I Do To Prevent Microfilm Deterioration?).  I thought digitizing is might be a long-term project, but since the lifetime quoted is 100 to 500 years, it would probably outlast most digital media!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXIQaBcFernTH4LEu by Woodswalked@mstdn.party
       2024-07-02T23:58:51Z
       
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       @futurebird Microfilm/microfiche will degrade faster if they dry out.  Not saying they should be kept in a humidor, but probably not well suited to clay jars either.Hopefully you will get better answers than that.Hmmm… I will now be trying out the internet trick of posting wrong answers to provoke correction.MICROFILM IS BEST STORED IN LEMON JUICE AT 50 degrees Calvin.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXL5u27Z9dso3SUUq by justafrog@mstdn.social
       2024-07-03T00:29:00Z
       
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       @futurebird Generally, you want to keep things dry, sealed from oxygen and out of light.Properly sealed jars in caves work really well for that.It also offers thermal stability, which can help preserve things, too.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXPAP9sBYloJWUEXQ by libroraptor@mastodon.nz
       2024-07-03T01:14:20Z
       
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       @futurebird What is it that he wants to rescue, though? The NYT content? Or the materiality? Something else?If it's just for content that's already well preserved elsewhere, I don't know whether it's worth doing.But if the idea is to maintain some sort of archive that remains accessible in a lowish-tech future when all the hard drive platters are finding new value as mirrors, maybe your friend needs to rescue a whole lot of optical gadgetry to store with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXPIVKB8xIFkrAYIS by TeamMidwest@glammr.us
       2024-07-03T01:16:08Z
       
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       @futurebird @ingrid professional librarian/archivist here. Unless these are the original silver master microfilm reels I generally trust the judgement of librarians involved in deaccessioning decisions and am weary of people second guessing librarian weeding decisions (see Nicholson Baker). my best faith take on a situation without many details is that a library is deaccessioning common microfilm that can be accessed via the NYT archive or other consortium members.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXSYqHRIW7bFBN0D2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-03T01:52:41Z
       
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       @TeamMidwest @ingrid Don't worry no one is going to "donate" them. I think the point is to do something more off the beaten path. My friend and I share a fascination with "information density" ... though I'm leaning towards the clay jars concept...
       
 (DIR) Post #AjXStgiO3ZMRetulaS by allwelikeworms@mastodon.social
       2024-07-03T01:56:29Z
       
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       @futurebird @textfiles Tagging Jason Scott from Archive, in case this is of interest.