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 (DIR) Post #AjT3izE3cPuWOgglrU by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T22:55:35Z
       
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       This "Allergy Guide" trend needs to DIE. Or it's going to make *me* die. Increasingly restaurants will NOT show an ingredients list, but instead a simplified chart made for babies that only list the "big five" allergens.As someone with an anaphylactic reaction to sunflower oil and flax which are NOT big five this is useless to me. So I just can't know if your food will kill me or not. So I don't buy it.The number of places where I can eat keeps shrinking.(sesame isn't even on their guide)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4HUAT5CzoCySbjc by krans@mastodon.me.uk
       2024-06-30T23:01:42Z
       
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       @futurebird We went to a chain restaurant in Edinburgh (UK) recently. One of us had a food allergy, and the waiter immediately pulled out a laminated chart with everything on the menu and about 25 known allergies.The recent changes in UK restaurants' liability for allergens has real teeth, and it's led to big improvements.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4Xa156cTuyrkCf2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:04:44Z
       
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       Don't people want to know what ingredients are in their food?It's just creepy to me to not be able to see the whole list. Just this goofy chart that contains nothing useful to keep me safe... but also probably lets them claim they can't be held responsible if I fall over dead. I just have a real issue with being given "simplified" "information" that has less information in it. Really rubs me the wrong way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4hH4OP5EZ7AuplI by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:06:15Z
       
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       They've taken up space on the chart to tell you if a meal is "paleo" or not (that's not an allergy! that's not even a real thing!) but if you want to know what's in their dressing? You can't.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4kwjLxzsVBwpFce by andyb@writing.exchange
       2024-06-30T23:06:26Z
       
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       @futurebird I'm with you. My only food allergy is bell peppers and some places slide them in even when they list ten other vegetables, strongly implying those are the only ten present.  And one of my partners is very allergic to cayenne. Restaurants hardly ever list seasonings, and even packaged items frequently just list "and spices." Makes me want to scream.So, yeah, we're those people who make the server go talk to the kitchen staff. Because we have to.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4q0ah2dWYc1Blia by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:08:00Z
       
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       @andyb The thing about the places that have these charts is they will only show you the chart. They say they can't give you any more information than that. So for bell peppers the answer is "we don't know" There is no "please ask the chef" option.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4rvPTH8Ft7fqzFQ by CStamp@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:08:10Z
       
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       @futurebird I wouldn't go to a restaurant that didn't include ingredients.  I have a friend who is allergic to anything with corn, which, amazing, is in a LOT of stuff. I don't eat meat, so if something is sautéed in bacon, I want to know before I taste the bacon.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT4vxWXMES8pz59yC by lia_pas@vis.social
       2024-06-30T23:09:06Z
       
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       @futurebird Yikes! This is awful! My mom has a sesame allergy and I can’t have flax seed or navel oranges. I hope this doesn’t happen in Canada.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT5hm1tOcgv5YY3Lk by justafrog@mstdn.social
       2024-06-30T23:17:44Z
       
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       @futurebird From my experience, a lot of people very much don't give a shit what's in their food, so long as it tastes nice.I'm fortunate in that I don't get confronted with any allergy in food, because I'd stop eating things I haven't made myself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT61ZCcnPL16A0Rvc by Laplantgenetics@spore.social
       2024-06-30T23:21:20Z
       
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       @futurebird It doesn't even list eggs, which are a common food (& vaccine) allergen.Plus peanuts (another common one) have nothing to do with other nut allergies.  Tree nuts are apparently in the top 10 though.It doesn't even properly list the big 5 food allergens (cow milk, peanuts, soy, shellfish & wheat).But I totally agree on ingredient list, especially for chain restaurants.  Plus what about people that don't eat certain foods for religious/personal reasons?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT6fFOjqeiVG6arLM by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:28:31Z
       
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       @enby_of_the_apocalypse Something about the bright colors and the simple chart sets me off LOL. They do list if things are vegan or not... but most serious vegans I know like to read the ingredients anyway since people can have goofy ideas about what is acceptable. I mean... just let us see the damn list. Don't dumb it down.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT6lzvTlrH5Ih7uPQ by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
       2024-06-30T23:29:29Z
       
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       @futurebird The paleo diet is such bullshit and so obviously not scientific from the outset (also, it's just the Atkins diet revisited and he died of coronary disease). I highly suspect it fucked up a friend's metabolism (though they'll never admit it). Add it to the list of diets, like the raw food diet, that are for people with orthorexia. Also, super annoying they don't list ingredients!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT6y4ZkJHvtCBid1M by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:31:55Z
       
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       @fifilamoura Given that "paleo diet" people don't agree on anything because the diet isn't based on anything but vibes about "what cave men eat" I don't see how they can claim foods are or are not "paleo"It really gives me no confidence about the rest of the chart... which is inadequate since it can't tell you if a food contains an ingredient or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT75cxgrTABryWMJk by Pawpower@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:32:09Z
       
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       @futurebird Ugh,, I'm sorry I feel your pain. I have a anaphylactic allergy to stevia and they're putting it in *everything* these days. I'm also allergic to shellfish but thats a more common one. Food is so exhausting when you have life threatening allergies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7GX0DMGqkZYtv6W by PaulWermer@sfba.social
       2024-06-30T23:35:12Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura cavemen depended on found carbs, as near as I can tell. Tubers, fruits, ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7Ml47z7KnvThUnI by CStamp@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:36:10Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura These folk should really look into the Inuit conundrum.  Scientists were perplexed at their meat diet not resulting in scurvy. Turns out that they got their vitamin C from sources such as raw seal brain.  Also, while the population thrived and were healthy in their early years, they aged quickly. 60 was old.  Scientifically, for a long life, the Mediterranean diet shows a long, healthy life.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7WhjvCmmYVTzZSa by GLaDTheresCake@todon.nl
       2024-06-30T23:37:36Z
       
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       @andyb @futurebird my boyfriend being allergic to turmeric has the same issue as the cayenne. It's incredibly infuriating, and really makes some entire cuisines inaccessible for fear of cross contamination or just not labeling correctly. Especially since it's in so many things without it being labeled as such. It's also in four e-numbers and has three different common names here...
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7Ybk0TkxoTuwIyW by brinnbelyea@fosstodon.org
       2024-06-30T23:38:13Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura It's an excuse to eat meat just like Atkins was an excuse to eat meat with butter sauce.  Orthorexia is profitable and I am convinced that the media does whatever they can to foster it.  An analyst could mess up and come up with a better way to eat than any fad.  When did the American diet tank?  In the early '80's they said fat was bad.  This was paid for by the sugar industry who paid Harvard scientists to find that fat was bad.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7bv3b7RRTG2gLTM by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
       2024-06-30T23:38:35Z
       
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       @futurebird Paleo diets are really stupid manosphere stuff. But this chart is stupid too, people with real allergies will know what ingredients they are allergic to, they don't need to dumb it down! I blame some of this on the anti-gluten trend (great for people who have celiac disease or wheat allergies, though, since it expands their options).
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7kIXfgasYPbkBu4 by depereo@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:40:38Z
       
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       @futurebird we're on about 12 years of 100% home cooking, just gave up after a waiter said there wasn't sesame in a meal and brought it out with a ton of hummus on it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7mO0AMHJzvL4GjA by karelbrits@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:40:39Z
       
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       @futurebird My son has allergies to cow milk, soy, kiwi, pineapple, ... Just give the ingredients so we know what's in there. This isn't a fun game, it's essential information for some people to stay alive. @enby_of_the_apocalypse
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7pixUthBNn0PYo4 by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T23:41:05Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura I always hate stuff like "paleo."  More often than not there are scams behind it, but there are always some following and using it.  Tons of things sell as "paleo" and of course they cost more but aren't actually better or something.  Meanwhile, I don't think many cavemen had modern domesticated crops.  (Or crops.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7z54I41F4y23Av2 by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
       2024-06-30T23:42:17Z
       
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       @PaulWermer Oh, yeah, it's been totally debunked by science. And, yeah, it was lots of foraged foods of various kinds and probably meat less often. Michael Pollen's food guidelines are pretty much all you need "Eat food, not too much, mostly plants." I'd make it "eat whole foods, not too much, mostly plants." @futurebird
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT7z5qr9S5fOelxcO by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:43:16Z
       
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       @fifilamoura @PaulWermer The paleo diet people never want to eat bugs so I call BS.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT83PnwuN0QRFTQIK by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:44:04Z
       
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       @fifilamoura @PaulWermer Granted I don't want to eat bugs either but that is because it would make me too sad. :(
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT87cQDwI6qjFNf3A by fifilamoura@eldritch.cafe
       2024-06-30T23:44:53Z
       
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       @futurebird Haha, excellent point! It's all just "argh, man eat meat" idiocy. Basically it's a recipe for heart disease and colon cancer. @PaulWermer
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT899dzuCZg3TYVCy by Mtn_Fox@mas.to
       2024-06-30T23:45:06Z
       
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       @futurebird Sheesh. I have the same problem with celery. I need to know it's there or it will kill me. I've even found it in food at a Mexican restaurant once ("What in the diabluras-gente-blanca-loca is this!?"At least I can usually see it coming. Sunflower oil would be hard to avoid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT8Eypr0NYgGmsZJA by janisf@mstdn.social
       2024-06-30T23:46:07Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura The big benefit, IMO, is that it gets folks looking at  history for what works better than what we're doing now, which is way too much sugar (carbs) plus a thriving market for over-processed product that has as-of-yet unknown impacts and often unidentifiable sources.It's not real.  Just eat real food.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT8etUTV2JBDqEgam by belehaa@wandering.shop
       2024-06-30T23:50:50Z
       
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       @futurebird Full agreement here.Even the other end of the allergen list is frustrating. My dad has an anaphylactic allergy to peanuts - a very common and severe allergen. These days everything under the sun is labeled “may contain peanuts” whether it does or not, which I read as “we can’t be bothered and don’t want to be liable.” Caution is fine, but I wish they’d just tell us what’s in the food
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT8tb9lwlduhjZ1wO by WhistlingStella@c.im
       2024-06-30T23:53:31Z
       
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       @futurebird @andyb   Are you eating in restaurants with a chef or in restaurants that assemble prepared food?  I dunno it came out of a box is pretty common in the later. (Gluten allergy)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT9LahREuTlOZeunI by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-06-30T23:58:35Z
       
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       @michaelgemar @fifilamoura @PaulWermer aphids are a vegetable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjT9ssw0SmWbVSLh3Y by andyb@writing.exchange
       2024-07-01T00:04:25Z
       
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       @futurebird Yeah... That seems short-sighted and like it's going to lose a decent amount business. Because it's not just people with allergies to things the place refuses to declare when present who wouldn't eat there. It's everyone who would have gone there with them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTALH4iIrFcU7xUye by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T00:09:43Z
       
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       @futurebird This feeling.  I know it.(Celiac.  No, "gluten-free friendly" is nowhere near good enough... ).
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTAVfVaJbOn9xU3Gq by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T00:11:34Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura I once had someone who knew I have celiac tell me "Eat emmer wheat!  It's paleo!".Which was revealing both of the lack of knowledge of what actual paleolithic diets were and of the lack of medical knowledge the promoters of "eat paleo" have.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBOjbInmVlmKPpAG by Just_Tired@mastodon.world
       2024-07-01T00:21:18Z
       
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       @futurebirdRoasted mealworms aren't bad. Kinda like a corn chip texture. Nacho spice makes them better.  @fifilamoura @PaulWermer
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBVooFpkiZxcqrnk by WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T00:22:46Z
       
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       @futurebird @enby_of_the_apocalypse “This is our big bouncy list of tummy no-nos! Do YOU have a tummy no-no? See if it matches one of these cute pictures!”“…this was the only thing on the body?”“Well that and this half-eaten sandwich.”
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBdCfDXhcnyE97Im by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T00:24:09Z
       
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       @WhiteCatTamer @enby_of_the_apocalypse Meanwhile I'm just sitting there swelling up like I was hugging a beehive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBfTsCWsn3vKIycC by EverydayMoggie@sfba.social
       2024-07-01T00:24:27Z
       
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       I basically cannot eat anything I don't cook myself. Restaurants in general are just too risky. Even if they do make an attempt, most of the time they're not really aware of what is actually in the food, let alone the possibility of cross-contamination.There are only few packaged foods that aren't questionable. Ingredient lists are very often incomplete.Outside of restaurants, I've watched people unthinkingly toss an ingredient like wine into a dish minutes after I told them I was allergic to yeast. Even my mother refused to cook for me because it was too complicated.The upside is that I've been forced to eat better than most people, and don't have any of the chronic health conditions common in people my age.@futurebird
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBnb2BmweaRxqYW8 by WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T00:25:58Z
       
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       @futurebird @enby_of_the_apocalypse Be honest: if not for fear of disturbing or damaging the home of the bees, you totally would hug a beehive.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTBqAubMpeaIlWku8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T00:26:14Z
       
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       @WhiteCatTamer @enby_of_the_apocalypse ... no comment
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTCbdpNg19laoidrE by Phlogiston1@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T00:35:03Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura @PaulWermer hmmm…cricket protein is getting popular (tried one…a bit meh) https://www.greenbelly.co/pages/best-cricket-bars
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTCinEt5FmYoD3lcO by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T00:36:21Z
       
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       @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer The true "paleo way" is to do like my cat and just gobble any bug you encounter and see what happens. I bet being a cave person was a hungry life, and why let protein just walk by?
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTEY4zqvBIGbc2wMK by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T00:56:50Z
       
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       @futurebird @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer I'm pretty sure you're actually pretty right on that.  There is a reason agriculture was seen as one of the biggest factors in changing humanity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTFVeYGN88PxlY4DA by paulc@mstdn.social
       2024-07-01T01:07:35Z
       
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       @futurebird @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer I wish that my cat showed any interest in bugs. At least for his own entertainment value, I’m not asking him to be pest control.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTXzKOhfSSXJnNQ1Y by dgoldsmith@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T04:34:29Z
       
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       @futurebird That's when they even bother. My daughter has an anaphylactic reaction to peanuts, and we got a "seasonal cheesecake” once that had peanut butter in it because "the chef likes peanuts.” That was a trip to the hospital.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTj1dNbA7xMGWA796 by herrbischoff@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T06:38:20Z
       
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       @futurebird > Don't people want to know what ingredients are in their food?The depressing but hardly surprising answer to that is: no. I’ve been a vegan for 27 years now. In the past, I regularly encountered people who actively asked me (sometimes preemptively) to not tell them what ingredients are in certain foods and how the sausage gets made – for fear they wouldn’t want to eat it any more. That amount of wilful ignorance is incomprehensible to me but unfortunately widespread.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTk9sMnQNyn1AHT1M by Habrok42@chaos.social
       2024-07-01T06:51:01Z
       
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       @futurebird Wow, not even eggs or peanuts are listed.As someone with some rare allergies, even the 14 allergens listed in germany often are not enough for me. The most difficult for me is fenugreek which is botanically related to peanuts and an ingredient in many curry mixes, but is often only listed as spices.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTlnGNsA7s6kp85Pk by Beedazzled@mastodon.green
       2024-07-01T07:09:19Z
       
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       @futurebird we have 13 common allergens over here but they can't just list them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTlwPBknS4yfQoukC by Beedazzled@mastodon.green
       2024-07-01T07:11:01Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura and how long did cave men live compared to us even if you allow for being gored by a mammoth 🤣
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTmNF98F2hZLAOJg8 by Beedazzled@mastodon.green
       2024-07-01T07:15:50Z
       
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       @futurebird @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer even at the start of the 20th century poor city dwellers would catch and eat sparrows, a plentiful protein source but you'd need quite a few to make a meal. I am sure our foraging ancestors ate what ever they could catch that was palatable, probably with some religious and cultural taboos
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTs41WRGrIxJDVlbM by bovaz@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T08:19:36Z
       
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       @futurebird In the EU we have a law mandating the allergens that have to be on menus. And that list is lacking some heavy hitters. A friend of mine is allergic to garlic, that isn't on it, and often sauces have it without listing it because they are not required to list it, so she'll be sick all night after eating out even though she and the staff all asked and checked.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTtN5RF2DVauXjaHg by KatS@chaosfem.tw
       2024-07-01T08:34:15Z
       
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       @futurebird aving had one partner with an anaphylactic reaction to onion, and another who was responsible for adding at least one thing to the elimination diet, I feel this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTvPfq4rwWGIDiEZU by bovaz@mastodon.online
       2024-07-01T08:57:09Z
       
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       @futurebird @fifilamoura A caveman today would likely eat anything it finds in a fridge. Then someone would teach them how to use a stove, and they would keep eating everything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTwqwlAAMO8XoyxrU by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T09:13:17Z
       
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       @meena @EverydayMoggie My father in law has a garlic allergy and he's wary of many cuisines because there are so many where it's like they can't process the concept (I'm look at the Italians.)My sunflower allergy makes me suspicious of anything styled as "healthy" and "hippie foods" since those tend to be laced with sunflowers, and worst of all I've run into people who think that since sunflowers can be used to replace peanuts, things made with sunflower oils are "allergy free"
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTzO2dTXXZoEWIM88 by AustinB@esq.social
       2024-07-01T09:41:01Z
       
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       @futurebird @meena @EverydayMoggie I’m automatically suspicious of anything labeled vegan because of cashews.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjTzokSPEegjfjqtmq by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T09:46:31Z
       
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       @AustinB @meena @EverydayMoggie Same. I'm also allergic to tree nuts, but that allergy gives me less grief than the sunflower oil one since it's on the "big five"But when I see something is "vegan" ... even though I really like many vegan recipes, my hopes of being able to eat it drop. The safest place for me to eat is a greasy spoon diner. They never use seed oils and are too cheap to use nuts... So, if I can't get an ingredients list I go for pretty ho hum boring food for an American.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjU60UI5lbECjW0brs by iamio@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T10:55:50Z
       
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       @futurebird @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer In my brain, I am going to pretend Paleo dieters are just kittens running around in human suits. Thank you!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjU7viaRO46PX1Rdjc by VirginiaHolloway@urbanists.social
       2024-07-01T11:17:23Z
       
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       @futurebird @AustinB @meena @EverydayMoggie I also have a relatively mild tree nut allergy and often rely on the "nuts are too expensive for some foods" philosophy.  The thing that regularly catches me though is pesto, because there seems to be no consensus on whether it has nuts (pine or wal) or not.  And recently I discovered that spanikopita can have nuts, but fortunately before I ate some of the nutty kind.   At least the awareness that allergies exist is increasing, albeit slowly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjU8P30WXhBrGNd8nA by Illuminatus@mstdn.social
       2024-07-01T11:22:40Z
       
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       @futurebird The EU system is not perfect either, but I feel that it has at least created labelling and consciousness of certain liabilities for restaurants and the like.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjU961UQ3s0R0Y6dFI by rayhindle@mastodon.social
       2024-07-01T11:30:25Z
       
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       @futurebird Paleo, the so-called Stone Age diet where people were considered old if they reached the age of 25!
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUCXiQynoZvsZOSo4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T12:09:06Z
       
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       @meena @VirginiaHolloway @AustinB @EverydayMoggie Farming nuts requires a lot of water. Especially almonds. Total environmental disaster. Not as bad as beef, but worse than chickens, or most other plants. But since almonds can kill me I'm kind of biased against them so finding out they are causing water shortages too ... yeah. Not impressed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUCvoKaWtAt7NtSGO by AustinB@esq.social
       2024-07-01T12:12:55Z
       
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       @futurebird @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie I didn’t realize that almonds were worse than chicken.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUDbypprlMXrGcJsm by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T12:21:03Z
       
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       @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie Raising chicken for eggs and meat can be an integrated part of a farm ecosystem. Factory farms are cruel and use mass produced grain... but even then the grain isn't being grown in a desert using scarce water... Almonds are kind of a mess as they are produced en mass in CA... and this is down to poor choices in water regulation. Why is scarce water being used to manufacture what is effectively a luxury good? "farming" is a loophole here IMO
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUDsSVzHijyXfBtpo by AustinB@esq.social
       2024-07-01T12:23:59Z
       
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       @futurebird @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie that makes sense. I knew that the monocultures in CA were bad, and that chicken can be more or less sustainable, but I hadn’t considered the comparison
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUE1TG1tR7jS31Y4O by Tallish_Tom@fosstodon.org
       2024-07-01T12:25:39Z
       
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       @futurebird @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie If you are interested in farming stuff you should follow @sarahtaber she has a good podcast too (but she's been busy running for office recently)
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUEUSm4lhVILoq10S by teddy@social.teddycaddy.com
       2024-07-01T12:30:54Z
       
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       @futurebird @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie the politics behind water out west is pretty wild. There's a book I read called Cadillac Desert that outlines the history and how we got here.Here's another crazy fact. Those farms in California pay millions monthly for water
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUF5t2y3DWEY2aGQq by futurebird@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T12:37:39Z
       
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       @teddy @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie When I first learned how the Colorado River was totally used up by the time it reached its former delta I was horrified. This guy I know said "but all that fresh water just ends up in the ocean wasted"  I was floored by  this statement. Horrified all over again. We have done things to nature out there whose violence goes unrecognized because too many people don't think deserts are "nature"... or they see rivers water tanks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUFt6INa7hJpMG9XU by chernosktrainstation@www.librepunk.club
       2024-07-01T12:45:29Z
       
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       @futurebird Even worse are the "ask the servers about allergens" signs without providing anything else. A lot of people have no idea about allergens as they hadn't received any training whatsoever. I'm not allergic but my mom is, to gluten, and so many foodstuff has it
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUHQqn7pdMJXgIWaO by llewelly@sauropods.win
       2024-07-01T13:03:29Z
       
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       @teddy @futurebird @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie _Cadillac Desert_ is a great book, but nearly 40 years out of date, specific to Southern California (a problem because most of the Colorado river's water doesn't come from California, and the west is more than just California), and has a maybe one paragraph on global warming (typical given the time it was written).a more modern view could be found in _Science Be Damned_ by Eric Kuhn and @jfleck https://uapress.arizona.edu/book/science-be-dammed
       
 (DIR) Post #AjUHq3IKTwQrYmuV5E by pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se
       2024-07-01T13:08:23Z
       
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       @futurebird There's loads of 'fun' things relating to the Colorado river, starting with the California Water Wars (LA stealing all the water from the Owens valley) and continuing through the All-American Canal (we need to build a new canal that runs _entirely_ on American soil so that there's no chance for Mexico to shut it off in case of conflict). @teddy @AustinB @meena @VirginiaHolloway @EverydayMoggie
       
 (DIR) Post #AjV5GZ2rx4jzJewzb6 by PTR_K@dice.camp
       2024-07-01T22:22:13Z
       
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       @futurebird @meena @EverydayMoggie My wife seems to have a garlic allergy as well. At least: she can eat garlic bread without problems, but anything involving a significant quantity of freshly cooked garlic tends to make her throw up within half an hour.Even though she loves the flavor, there's a lot of Italian food that is just off limits. A bunch of other cuisine as well. Even those make-fresh-at-home meal kits like to add a bunch of flavor via some form of chopped garlic.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjV6bW0uWC3RwuaY4W by bruce@darkmoon.social
       2024-07-01T22:37:13Z
       
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       @futurebird @Phlogiston1 @fifilamoura @PaulWermer There are lot of "delicacies" out there that were first created by starving people. To take an example from this country, imagine how hungry the first people to look at a crawfish and say, "Yeah, I'm gonna eat that." must have been.