Post AjQgQeDAKB5ukQdd0y by ids1024@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AjQeQXqnm1Z77107xg by foone@digipres.club
       2024-06-29T18:46:01Z
       
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       I think a lot of time when the Torment Nexus thing is brought up, people are getting the arrow of causality the wrong way around. It's not that necessarily that Bobby Techbro read "Don't Create the Torment Nexus" and was inspired to make one, even if that's what the marketing tries to sell it as.No I think that's not giving scifi authors the proper respect as futurists. They looked at how things were going and thought "man, this might lead to a Torment Nexus" and then wrote a story about that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQfs0IuC1Nj8CnskC by JonnyT@mastodon.me.uk
       2024-06-29T19:06:10Z
       
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       @foone @blogdiva You mean, "Techbros will absolutely build this thing I'm warning you about, please make sure they don't because this is what will happen otherwise."
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQg1C4PocTWEKPMIK by brouhaha@mastodon.social
       2024-06-29T19:07:51Z
       
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       @foone "ALL OUR TORMENT ARE BELONG TO YOU"– Nexus
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQgQeDAKB5ukQdd0y by ids1024@fosstodon.org
       2024-06-29T19:11:32Z
       
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       @foone This is definitely true.Though also, if people are naming their companies things like "Soylent" and "Palantir", they do seem to be somewhat influenced by fiction. And getting the wrong message.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQkR14liLC5Tg8rLM by sps@historians.social
       2024-06-29T20:08:40Z
       
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       @foone Favourite example of author-as-uncanny-futurist:https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritzer_11_15/
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQmg9OtFIhvY1tjIO by foone@digipres.club
       2024-06-29T20:33:09Z
       
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       @JonnyT @blogdiva exactly. They're going "someday someone might make a Torment Nexus. Here's my ideas about what terrible shit would happen if someone made it".
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQmtn7QsvQCUsEjXU by foone@digipres.club
       2024-06-29T20:34:47Z
       
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       And they were right. A Torment Nexus did get built, it just got named after the one in their book because of the obvious precedent.Had they not written the book, the Torment Nexus would still exist, it just would have been called the TechCo.io TortureHub instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQnvkPxzxBGeYP1PM by Pashhur@mathstodon.xyz
       2024-06-29T20:47:19Z
       
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       @foone Except if the author said that the service would be provided by the actual Mafia. Then the name is already taken so they must invent some new name like "Uber torments" or something.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQr2GL2WzOzFjtcrQ by Dnmrules@paquita.masto.host
       2024-06-29T21:22:25Z
       
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       @foone you are 100000000% right
       
 (DIR) Post #AjQvszRmSkKK1vRmRU by JeffGrigg@mastodon.social
       2024-06-29T22:15:49Z
       
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       @foone 'We have created The Torment Nexus, inspired from the award winning classic scifi dystopia "Please Don't Build The Torment Nexus".'is a really odd marketing message for something they would have built anyway.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjRgFJA8RCHrRFm1PU by dohbuheee@mastodon.social
       2024-06-30T06:56:41Z
       
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       @foone Really, though, the techbros probably did not read these novels, or even watch any films or TV series based on them, but rather have just heard if such plots having once existed in some book. These people aren't smart enough to actually read anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AjRnebF13e8GQZ40Tg by EndlessMason@hachyderm.io
       2024-06-30T08:19:45Z
       
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       @fooneDon't worry about it though, most of the good torment is behind a pay wall@JonnyT @blogdiva