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(DIR) Post #AjPxIgYNEkqNl2O4qO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T10:59:28Z
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In Oklahoma they are passing a law to mandate a Bible be in every classroom.I don't have as much of an issue with this as I do with hanging the (Protestant Evangelical) ten commandments on the wall. The Bible, like many other religious texts is an important book... Just one little question:Which Bible?Ya'll say "The Bible" like you have a Pope and there is only one. That's not true. So... which one?If you don't know then maybe you are not qualified to make such mandates.
(DIR) Post #AjPxbbeHhFY233ArPU by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:02:50Z
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Getting yelled at because of the copies of "Euclid's Elements" I put in every classroom. I thought you said to "put the Bible!!"
(DIR) Post #AjPxeZYdvYMgQpwxA8 by mensrea@freeradical.zone
2024-06-29T11:03:24Z
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@futurebird and while we're at it maybe a quran and the vedas
(DIR) Post #AjPxvRR1NhmcA6QdVI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:06:27Z
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Let's have a whole little bookshelf that says "Bibles"And everyone can bring whatever Bibles they like and add it to the Bible library.
(DIR) Post #AjPy1mif9uPNuchm40 by catselbow@fosstodon.org
2024-06-29T11:07:33Z
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@futurebird https://www.wiley.com/storefront-pdp-assets/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.wiley.com%2Fproduct_data%2FcoverImage300%2F84%2F11195788%2F1119578884.jpg&w=640&q=75
(DIR) Post #AjPyU8lcmNLmOtbxke by LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T11:12:44Z
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@futurebird How about a screenwriter's bible for Star Trek Discovery?
(DIR) Post #AjPyYmz3CHDMHw6kfA by Illuminatus@mstdn.social
2024-06-29T11:13:33Z
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@futurebird A Saint Hyeronimus Vulgate. In Latin. Or you'll be known for the noob you are.
(DIR) Post #AjPyeaUgXwpZI0faJU by VirginiaHolloway@urbanists.social
2024-06-29T11:14:36Z
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@futurebird That's one of the conundrums that puzzles me. If the Bible is the literal "word of God" as I understand some believe, then how can the words be different in different versions? I guess this is why we have sectarian wars, over those words. I'm sure it won't be too long before SCOTUS determines which version is the correct (joking/not joking).
(DIR) Post #AjPygI6DuMFMoq2Xtw by CaffeinatedBookDragon@nerdculture.de
2024-06-29T11:14:44Z
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@futurebirdYou can have fun with "The Brick Bible" in classrooms... with the LEGOs and all, it'd definitely get picked up and looked at. Bonus is the pics and stories could lead to some awkward questions at home about what's actually IN the bible mommy and daddy keep on the shelf or table (hee hee).
(DIR) Post #AjPywWBfIWLb92K63E by kingkaufman@sfba.social
2024-06-29T11:17:48Z
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(DIR) Post #AjPyzDT9LaYtxcmuzQ by justafrog@mstdn.social
2024-06-29T11:18:19Z
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@futurebird Would be Knuth's TAOCP if I had any say in it.
(DIR) Post #AjPzBUDssnWXOeUyLg by dogzilla@masto.deluma.biz
2024-06-29T11:20:33Z
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@futurebird @nedhamson1 I have no problem with using the Jefferson Bible.It’s amazing these idiots are so bigoted they can’t conceive of there being any other bible but the one they’re used to
(DIR) Post #AjPzKVPZpi1bgnGhgO by shadowsminder@mas.to
2024-06-29T11:22:11Z
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@futurebird the Bible and the Ten Commandments must be taught, not only present.However, this order for the Bible is a policy, not a law. That came from a memo by the superintendent of schools.The Oklahoma Supreme Court is entirely unlike the US Supreme Court as it pushes back against the state's GOP movement to establish religion, specifically Evangelicalism, in schools.Both the Bible and the Ten Commandments requirements will probably go to the court.
(DIR) Post #AjPzXAbQVkw8urqkdc by SehrLesbisch@chaos.social
2024-06-29T11:24:22Z
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@futurebird https://archive.org/details/electriciansbibl0000jone
(DIR) Post #AjPzo79Qb61h8NpjPc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:27:31Z
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Look to the ant, lazybones; consider her ways, and be wise:She has no king, no boss, or ruler, but she knows to store her provisions in summer and plan for the harvest.Proverbs 6:6-8
(DIR) Post #AjPzrf1v5ojz4o0qFk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:28:07Z
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I have a whole collection of all the mentions of ants in ancient texts and folklore. I could make that into an Ant Bible.
(DIR) Post #AjPzu0Occo3ZvCkWGm by slothrop@chaos.social
2024-06-29T11:28:28Z
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@futurebird Does she not have a queen, though?
(DIR) Post #AjPzvin53KbXtl0Y6q by Nicovel0@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T11:28:46Z
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@futurebird I would leave The Prokaryotes, but it’s a bit heavy
(DIR) Post #AjPzxMoLk8E6JEO0FU by FrankFrank@newsie.social
2024-06-29T11:25:07Z
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@dogzilla @futurebird @nedhamson1 The X-rated Bible is hotter than tRUMP humping Stormy Daniel's in August at Death Valley. It's a corker.https://archive.org/details/XRatedBibleBenEdwardAkerley/page/n90/mode/1up
(DIR) Post #AjPzxOFKPJOulC13wG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:28:48Z
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@FrankFrank @dogzilla @nedhamson1This must be a use of "hot" that I'm not familiar with.
(DIR) Post #AjQ04cw2C1kuLNRUhc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:30:33Z
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@slothrop Queens do not "rule" the other ants. They are just the ant with the job of laying eggs. It's really interesting to me that people in the Bronze age seemed to know this? Or at least recognized the autonomy of individual ants. And they also used the feminine pronouns for ant workers ... which is also correct.
(DIR) Post #AjQ08yWVrzloSPZvPM by kingkaufman@sfba.social
2024-06-29T11:31:18Z
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@futurebird If I were a teacher there I would teach about nothing but the Sermon on the Mount. OK, we're starting a 3-week unit on "Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven."Then we'll have 4 weeks on "Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."And then we'll have 2 weeks on "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them," which is about infallibility, because if you've ever watched how hard birds work you know that Jesus didn't know fuck-all about birds, so what else was he ignorant about hmm?Let's see, then 2 weeks on "Do not judge, or you too will be judged ..."
(DIR) Post #AjQ0Ea6JaLacRvzut6 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:32:21Z
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@slothrop Before you say they didn't know that ants had queens... they did! There is a whole lovely story about King Solomon talking to a queen ant. The queen ant humbles the human King who has gotten too big of a head. It's a nice story.
(DIR) Post #AjQ0MxmRQgfSCshO6a by slothrop@chaos.social
2024-06-29T11:33:49Z
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@futurebird I wouldn’t dream of arguing about ants with you! 😇
(DIR) Post #AjQ0ORyKf8qO8OyBPc by catselbow@fosstodon.org
2024-06-29T11:34:02Z
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@futurebird The bible does mention the anty christ.
(DIR) Post #AjQ0bx02c8Xe85CrmS by tadbithuman@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T11:36:30Z
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@futurebird There is not just one Pope either.
(DIR) Post #AjQ137O26UKuA9NnyS by dnavinci@genomic.social
2024-06-29T11:41:28Z
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@futurebirdI was likewise wondering which 10 commandments they wanted, Exodus or Deuteronomy. Also I counted 17 last time. Which ones should we omit.
(DIR) Post #AjQ1AXhmeNSVocA4ci by emmanuelwald@deacon.social
2024-06-29T11:42:43Z
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@futurebird I would love to read that
(DIR) Post #AjQ1DM0wZcAmQQSpe4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:42:57Z
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@dnavinci Human history and ancient texts are so cool... but the people doing this don't really care about this stuff.
(DIR) Post #AjQ2NaS3qmc63HaicC by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T11:56:19Z
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@futurebird @slothrop the use of the word "queen" for an egg-laying ant (or other hymenopteran) seems to encourage many misconceptions, particularly the idea that the "queen" has some special power of command, so it's interesting they seemed to know ant "queens" don't "rule" in the human sense. But they must have needed some understanding of ants to protect food stores.
(DIR) Post #AjQ38RQlCwfngUKCP2 by MichaelPorter@ottawa.place
2024-06-29T12:04:27Z
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(DIR) Post #AjQ3AQRNrLFxC2Yvx2 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T12:04:55Z
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@melivia @slothrop Workers do lay eggs. One could notice if you caught some worker ants of certain species and kept them separated from their colony. Without the queen they turn to laying eggs (which are unfertilized so they can only produce males) in a last ditch effort to participate in the nuptial flights. But it might also just be a fluke, or a tendency to call all small creatures female? I don't know enough about language to say how remarkable it is to use female pronouns.
(DIR) Post #AjQ3ICVdXX3QIoG8Uy by SteveClough@metalhead.club
2024-06-29T12:01:44Z
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@VirginiaHolloway @futurebird Oh don't get onto that one. For many of them, it is the King James Version, which was written by God apparently.Which proves that God is a terrible writer.
(DIR) Post #AjQ3IDFMnVdMadeemG by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T12:06:25Z
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@SteveClough @VirginiaHolloway Isn't that the bible of The Church of England... and isn't that the church we Americans were so butt-hurt about having to be a member of that they all went over an ocean to escape it???
(DIR) Post #AjQ3PWd788nIjTFWBU by AndorianSoup@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T12:07:00Z
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(DIR) Post #AjQ3VXOTCfi6q4Gae0 by aprilfollies@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:08:58Z
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@futurebird @dnavinci “Their Bible’s not for reading, it’s for thumping!” -My Dad
(DIR) Post #AjQ3XvhNoCmInaFmfg by cshlan@dawdling.net
2024-06-29T12:09:12Z
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@futurebirdI'd be bringing the Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha. I want those kids to see all the academic comments and know people argue about meaning and study context.
(DIR) Post #AjQ3b3R7Ur2ZfK8XFw by albnelson@lor.sh
2024-06-29T12:09:37Z
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@futurebird @SteveClough @VirginiaHolloway I just like the idea of William Bradford and Increase Mather being butt-hurt. Explains a lot.
(DIR) Post #AjQ3qtc3mvHLpco8e0 by mycotropic@beige.party
2024-06-29T12:12:18Z
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@futurebird One of which I would buy the living heck out of!
(DIR) Post #AjQ3scWmHVdBQE9vlY by lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net
2024-06-29T12:13:11Z
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@futurebird Especially when Byblios means "book".
(DIR) Post #AjQ4LrVNfslaGuRunQ by SteveClough@metalhead.club
2024-06-29T12:18:28Z
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@futurebird @VirginiaHolloway You expect it to make sense? That boat sailed a long time ago.
(DIR) Post #AjQ50j2c33PftUTilM by mycotropic@beige.party
2024-06-29T12:25:42Z
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@futurebird The cannon of MC Hawking makes this point (A Brief History of Rhyme, Chapter 15) ;"They need to read a book that ain't so damn oldLet reason take holdThough truth to be toldThey're probably already too far goneWithdrawn, the conclusion foregoneBut maybe there's still hope for the youngIf they reject the dung being slung from the tonguesOf the ignorant fools who call themselves preachersAnd listen instead to their science teachers"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=89jt7zJzkNQ
(DIR) Post #AjQ5IKR8GYHOnTLCwy by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:28:59Z
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@futurebird 🧵 As a former student of Theology and Religious studies, I have a simple explication for which many Americans will hate me: THE bible doesn't exist. We only have different corpuses of text collections and translations.Why?(People who believe that God personally dictated even one of these collections of texts, please stop reading!)I try to keep it simple: Just imagine: In earlier times, people passed on traditions orally. There is a tribe that is enthusiastic about the great
(DIR) Post #AjQ5K6fSQh6AfktCYC by BashStKid@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:29:18Z
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@futurebird Surely all those originalist thinkers should be preferring a Greek New Testament and a Hebrew/Aramaic Tanakh.
(DIR) Post #AjQ5gyXKpJ9U7Bzjl2 by IngaLovinde@embracing.space
2024-06-29T12:33:22Z
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@futurebird "which bible?" all the most popular ones? So there should be copies of Quran, Vedas, King James', Torah, Adi Granth, Tao Te Ching, Book of Mormons, etc, in every classroom
(DIR) Post #AjQ5jJNQJYNdKRTMwK by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:29:39Z
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@futurebird 🧵 ant queen by the river and tells stories about it around the campfire. For the children it is embellished like a fairy tale, on feast days an epic is recited. Mythical structures are created, including legends. The story of the ant queen is wandering. The tribe from the mountains doesn't know what a river is, and they adjust the landscape. The tribe that wanted to steal the ants only focused on ant eggs. And there is the tribe that makes war, speaks ill of the ant tribe and changes
(DIR) Post #AjQ5jKVG7uF4p298nA by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:32:38Z
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@futurebird 🧵 the history.Later, people begin to write down important things. They find ant stories everywhere, are fascinated how many, and write them down. They themselves have never met the tribe, never seen ants. Every writer influences their choice, their way of writing.A lot of time later, people fascinated by ants (but knowing not much) find some of these papyri. Many are nearly destroyed, so they try to reconstruct the texts. Sometimes they take pieces of several writers together.
(DIR) Post #AjQ690bgitK6dzOkq0 by regordane@mastodon.me.uk
2024-06-29T12:38:31Z
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@futurebird @slothropI'm pretty sure that story is a later legend, not in the Bible itselfhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_ants
(DIR) Post #AjQ6taZlK7mXWKhzn6 by ASprinkleofSage@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T12:46:56Z
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@futurebird Script to Monty Python's Life of Brian. Technically biblical. "He's having a go at the flowers now!"
(DIR) Post #AjQ7PQDhMV36fXZFSa by nobilis@smutlandia.com
2024-06-29T12:52:43Z
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@futurebird A Jefferson Bible would be a good addition.
(DIR) Post #AjQ7kVTV1HHj320p2u by Jorsh@beige.party
2024-06-29T12:56:31Z
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@futurebird *brings a dogeared copy of George Carlin's Brain Droppings*
(DIR) Post #AjQ813ajwShxUbI5mC by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T12:59:30Z
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@futurebird Great idea!
(DIR) Post #AjQ86pUPHoMLUd55bk by jonquass@techhub.social
2024-06-29T13:00:32Z
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@futurebirdLet's go with the Satanic Bible then!
(DIR) Post #AjQ8Xp0rANNppk87xQ by NatureMC@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T13:05:24Z
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@futurebird When I wrote my much too long comment, I hadn't seen the comments here yet. So I used a different version of the Ant Bible. 😁
(DIR) Post #AjQ8q3Xts7F27SHTLU by StephanMatthiesen@troet.cafe
2024-06-29T13:08:42Z
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@futurebird Oh yes please do write a book about ants in the Bible!Also, when they want the Bible in each classroom, are they aware that Bible literally is the Greek word for "books"?
(DIR) Post #AjQAMiAmSN0NLJbNdA by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2024-06-29T13:25:49Z
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@futurebird I have heard the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics be called "the rubber bible" (because the CRC publishing group was originally the Chemical Rubber Company).But I am not convinced that such creative responses actually do much to stop the authoritarian supremacists responsible for such outrages.
(DIR) Post #AjQBib8pNcmnrNglAO by sasyecat@mstdn.social
2024-06-29T13:40:55Z
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@futurebird The only bible that should be in schools.
(DIR) Post #AjQCM2eF2pgsSqBs5A by TheNovemberMan@bookstodon.com
2024-06-29T13:48:00Z
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@futurebird 👍💯👍
(DIR) Post #AjQDiWq3ZrTAQK0GiO by gibeath@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T14:03:23Z
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@futurebird ... and once the theocrats get in power, they'll spin their wheels on the bullshit differences between them like a bad Marvel vs DC argument.come to think of it that smells like opportunity
(DIR) Post #AjQEcizlZBMsLLLDY8 by kellogh@hachyderm.io
2024-06-29T14:13:07Z
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@futurebird whelp, fwiw, i think all branches of christianity and judaism all have a bible that contains the ten commandments. it’s the rare part of the bible that literally everyone agrees on
(DIR) Post #AjQFTzFtqGGQ7aHj84 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T14:23:10Z
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@jgordon That won't be a happy time. Baptists don't even get along with Baptists. I think the idiom is "Four Baptists? Six opinions."
(DIR) Post #AjQGbQTv78R0XixDAO by dathagerty@hachyderm.io
2024-06-29T14:35:41Z
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@futurebird Even those of us with a Pope have multiple! Granted we at least know which books we’re getting every time, but the translations are all over the place.
(DIR) Post #AjQGdDbByzCpAQD5Pc by CGdoppelpunkt@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T14:36:05Z
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@futurebird The Septuaginta of course.
(DIR) Post #AjQILDn8j9jKScLQSO by oldgeek@masto.yttrx.com
2024-06-29T14:53:14Z
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@futurebird my brain is silly, but it got me thinking if we could use LLMs to rewrite the King James version but make it for ants??? Then spread copies all over the internets so other LLMs ingest it. And maybe even self publish it on Amazon and give it all 5 star reviews. Then put copies in all those schools...One can dream
(DIR) Post #AjQLwXgU1tSMjXicO8 by GoatRoper@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T15:35:33Z
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@futurebird The Bible belongs in Sunday school, not real actual schools.
(DIR) Post #AjQQkj9m36XQbubYBM by ossobuffo@nc.social
2024-06-29T16:29:25Z
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@futurebird The Ethiopian Bible comes in two flavors: the narrow canon and the wide canon. The latter contains well over 80 books. Some have never been translated into English, though there is an online project working toward such a goal.When I was doing seminary work, we consulted this page when considering scripture (in particular the “Canons of various Christian traditions” section): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon
(DIR) Post #AjQeg76QzOSKmwjjns by skydog@sfba.social
2024-06-29T19:05:29Z
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@futurebird It depends on how you read the bible. I recall at USAFA our English professor had us read a biblical story...but it so happens it was the one about Rachel menstruating on the statues of idols, under her skirt. Turns out the bible also has some stand-up humor in it, too.Soooo, let's see how this pans out, teachers teaching from a book that won't even be (technically) allowed to be in the library.Rachel bleeding on the statues...gotta love it. Fundamentalists have had their heads screwed with, most since birth.
(DIR) Post #AjQmZtgAmfzP3H03Mm by MennoWolff@ohai.social
2024-06-29T20:33:59Z
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@futurebird @SteveClough @VirginiaHolloway If i'm not mistaken the argument wasn't over what it says in the bible, that's the word of God, so duh. The argument was over what it _says_ in the bible, what it really says, i.e. the interpretation. But the bible says so many contradictory things, so it's not surprising some people get upset every once in a while.
(DIR) Post #AjQnDflPwNRFTeQ3uK by MennoWolff@ohai.social
2024-06-29T20:41:02Z
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@futurebird Can I bring my Handbook Of Chemistry And Physics?It's arguably THE bible for chemical engineering students.
(DIR) Post #AjQsaBVz4SlA5pkq4O by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T21:36:12Z
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@LevZadov @futurebird @slothrop the terms gyne and reproductive are already in use. "womb" would be problematical because it implies live birth, and most (all?) ants are egg layers. Anyone know of a an ant that gives live birth?
(DIR) Post #AjQsaD6t8jsF2a1pEO by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-29T21:41:18Z
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@llewelly @LevZadov @slothrop Though there are many insects and arthropods who give live birth, this isn't something that any hymenopterans will do.
(DIR) Post #AjRdPMhbpc7tS0XDXM by lufthans@mastodon.social
2024-06-30T06:25:53Z
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@futurebird Stevens/Comers TCP/IP books