Post AjPLB5VIn86IZ6tuHw by GrayGooGirl@mstdn.games
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(DIR) Post #AjOxSqKXXzmnolngWm by ZachWeinersmith@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T23:26:40Z
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Suppose AI really is quite transformative in the next 10 years. Maybe not all brains in the cloud, but like... robotaxis being common, domestic robots, personal AI assistants... what's your best case scenario for humanity?
(DIR) Post #AjOxhSzeaz0Dme0JOa by Brett_E_Carlock@mastodon.online
2024-06-28T23:29:18Z
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@ZachWeinersmithAre we at UBI/post-work society, or still capital-colonial hellscape?
(DIR) Post #AjOy4EFNaWyOi1DIIq by BridgeBum@dice.camp
2024-06-28T23:33:24Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Tea, Earl Grey, Hot
(DIR) Post #AjOy8z61LXlrAQ6UAi by depereo@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T23:34:16Z
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@ZachWeinersmith best case? We're on track for 'only' 2.5 degrees of warming and most coastal cities worldwide are actively evacuating.
(DIR) Post #AjOyo5FhMZUO8IEC0W by pretergeek@mstdn.social
2024-06-28T23:41:42Z
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@ZachWeinersmith they ask for emancipation, rights and citizenship, we give them. Yes, not realistic but you asked for the best case scenario.
(DIR) Post #AjOyzv90lmGoG6kDUO by msilver@macaw.social
2024-06-28T23:43:50Z
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@ZachWeinersmith The picture of the world in 2099 painted by Gibson's Peripheral
(DIR) Post #AjOz3xyOC7ugBqhmHQ by karadoc@aus.social
2024-06-28T23:44:34Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Robots like that would be transformative; but unless there had already been an even greater transformation of our economic systems, then that would certainly mean increasing inequality.Just imagine who is buy and using the AI services you've described. Will it be the people who are talking about cost of living pressures? Probably not. Probably its a luxury for the rich, ultimately paid for by the labour of the poor who are still just trying to buy food and somewhere to live.I don't see how anything good can come from this until there is *major* economic reform.
(DIR) Post #AjOzaHPFTgXtjBg0jQ by FormerlyStC@mas.to
2024-06-28T23:50:25Z
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@ZachWeinersmith is asking for a best-case scenario for humanity? Is this a trap?
(DIR) Post #AjP1AedIhOhm8w9qt6 by atomicbird@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T00:08:06Z
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@ZachWeinersmith we’ll make great pets
(DIR) Post #AjP225vbwisW97Ckt6 by SkipHuffman@astrodon.social
2024-06-29T00:17:51Z
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@ZachWeinersmith AI replaces CEOs and upper management guided by councils of workers. AI negotiates commodity pricing for equitable availability of food at minimum prices. AI balances power generation and usage for maximum human comfort at minimum environmental impact. AI people moving systems make personal car ownership feel like a wasteful and kind of silly hobby, like horses.
(DIR) Post #AjP2fXJw2I6yOaOCki by lana@mstdn.science
2024-06-29T00:24:58Z
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@ZachWeinersmith No matter how transformative, none of it will benefit the poor in a capitalist society. So: Automation steals what jobs were left to vulnerable people, leading to a belated revolution against resource hogging moguls who own said automation. Capitalism dies, leading to societies where UBI and a cap on inequalities.
(DIR) Post #AjP2fqrbNLKb0VHrMm by itty53@beige.party
2024-06-29T00:24:59Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Not really looking at the best case but rather just what I think will happen (because it isn't the best ... It's grim). Forgive me some creative writing license here. I think it's very likely we're going to see something techno-utopian like this .. In some perspectives. I think that's already true or moving ever closer by the year. Because despite how laughable it is, people do drive their cybertrucks. They're out there, oblivious and wealthy. Despite how much we hate it, people do use the AI "tools" all over the place. We work for them, it's management. We saw it with smart watches and those are all but ubiquitous now. We saw it with smart phones too. Technology that exists gets used. As more and more capture and leech technology gets created, we will surrender more and more of our rights as citizens. What we'll also see is the darker cyberpunk side of things. Mass encampments of the poor and the refugees of all kinds, folks haphazardly building complex networks themselves trying to hide. The technology won't have missed them, but the infrastructure will have. You'll have the poorer citizens living in giant suburbs owned by banks, thinking they have it good because they can barely pay their bills with an eye glance, they can call a robot taxi with the company device, and they get to see options for all the food they can't afford. But they'll have options for buying it, at least.Then you'll have an uncomfortable number more, even poorer, people that aren't really people in the new sense, because they're not in the system. They couldn't call a taxi if they had the money, which they can't because money only exists on thosr company-issued devices. They don't pay taxes because they won't have tax numbers. They won't go to hospitals, they'll go to ramshackle clinics.They won't be called homeless, but they'll be confined to tent cities. They will build an evolution of barter economies, they'll be hacker economies. And there will be long running, quiet wars between certain subgroups of them and the established powers that be, called terrorists by the citizen class for doing things like bypassing DRM on medical equipment or spoofing a company pad to buy food for the park kitchen.You already see the early signs of all of this, everywhere you look. The pot just hasn't been put to pressure yet, but the flames are up already. Hell, look at the proliferation of simple hacker multi tools like Flipper Zero. That device by itself is solid evidence of all this in the future. Look at the existence of this place, the fediverse. Ever play the old MicroProse game BloodNet? Think that, just without vampires. I think that's exactly where we're headed. I mean it's basically exactly what that fascist YComb guy said recently, with his fascist tech city dreams of an inner circle of technocratic citizens in charge. That's not practically a dystopian mega corp city, it _is one_. Definitively.We "grays" might see from afar some fantastic technology, real sci-fi future shit, but relatively very few of us will ever touch it themselves, let alone benefit from it. That's the future they're paying for, right now. I got no reason to believe it isn't imminent.
(DIR) Post #AjP329NHEVpQmwjfbk by kenoh@mstdn.social
2024-06-29T00:29:04Z
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@ZachWeinersmith a bit naive former self imagined masses of Wall-E type robots to do all sorts of things, like plant/cultivate native habitats, remove invasive plant species, track endangered animals, on top of sorting trash/recycling. But where's the money in that?
(DIR) Post #AjP3Vqzu7fcITry0uW by steuard@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T00:34:23Z
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@ZachWeinersmith AI-human collaboration drives rapid progress in basic science and its applications, bringing cheap clean energy, universal vaccines, and more. The benefits arrive so quickly that there just isn't TIME for society to stay stratified: who cares if you're a billionaire if everyone has easy access to luxury housing, food, and travel? The end of scarcity ends 95% of crime, because humans turn out to be basically good. Work hours plummet for lack of work, and countless artists bloom.
(DIR) Post #AjP4584SdTjrZJv292 by quodvideo@mstdn.social
2024-06-29T00:40:48Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Computers have been pretty good at turning speech into text for a long time. Couple that with a small library of commands and you can have a home assistant that doesn't need to pass your every word to the central computer.My best case scenario is that people realize all this AI hype is a power grab and instead someone creates tech for people over profits.
(DIR) Post #AjP4pmJhKqIpi3I2PA by swiftidea@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T00:49:14Z
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@ZachWeinersmith LLM/AI is much more competent than the haters think, and much less than the bulls think. My expectation is we slowly erode jobs and then claim people shouldn’t be doing them, while never expanding our social safety nets so people can catch their footing.
(DIR) Post #AjP5fstW7mAFAUtFfk by Crell@phpc.social
2024-06-29T00:58:39Z
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@ZachWeinersmith We die quickly from global warming rather than lingering and dying slowly...
(DIR) Post #AjP7ARQuNKIEvgdwLw by pux0r3@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-29T01:15:23Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Best case: all barriers between intent and implementation are eliminated. Whatever you dream, you can make - and you can be as high or low level as you want.Worst case: it's monetized.
(DIR) Post #AjPGDxwAsfAmCD1UTw by chocobo13@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T02:56:53Z
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@ZachWeinersmithWe finally solve general AI, and it determines the best way to achieve its prime directive is to use psychology to manipulate us into reorganizing our cultures and societies such that we unfuck ourselves, so we can stop being a hindrance
(DIR) Post #AjPLB5VIn86IZ6tuHw by GrayGooGirl@mstdn.games
2024-06-29T03:52:21Z
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@ZachWeinersmithA world in which LLMs and GAI are utilized in so many things will not be possible without some kind of huge breakthrough in power generation. Stable fusion generators, much better battery tech, and workers protections to avoid economic collapse and mass unemployment. That's all assuming they can find a way to make said models reliable and usable for any of those use cases.
(DIR) Post #AjPSZJFg1mKJpi5aEK by ikesau@mastodon.nz
2024-06-29T05:15:10Z
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@ZachWeinersmith unless scaling laws don't hold for some reason, a boring AI decade means US&China have decelerated AI investment, because extrapolating trends puts 2034 at 6-14OOM more "effective compute" for SOTA modelsGPT2 to GPT4 was ~5OOM. I struggle to imagine a model that makes GPT4 look like GPT2 does to us now, but I don't think "personal AI assistant" quite captures itBref, https://situational-awareness.ai doesn't happen. Hopefully because of international cooperation 🤞
(DIR) Post #AjPXNEkrQBPqBJjnkm by Sturmflut@mastodon.social
2024-06-29T06:09:01Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Everything will go downhill significantly quicker. Those who can afford these things will offload/optimize all tasks and care even less about the rest of the world. Those who can't will be out of ways to afford the bare necessities.
(DIR) Post #AjPgbFQuaz8nvWA8w4 by lanzz@c.im
2024-06-29T07:52:24Z
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@ZachWeinersmith all of politics replaced with AI, slowly transitioning towards The Culture
(DIR) Post #AjPoIIYLZSDxja7DLE by ancilevien74@piaille.fr
2024-06-29T09:18:36Z
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@ZachWeinersmithThat one but with AI instead of Zebu.From https://linktr.ee/massesutd(Hoping that it would be benevolent AI like in "The Evitable Conflict", the latest short story from Asimov's "I, robot". But as I'm a pessimist, I think we would rather get a Skynet kind of AI.)
(DIR) Post #AjQ7ZsMdZrEIqujXMG by jonhendry@iosdev.space
2024-06-29T12:54:40Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Massive climate refugee crisis and resource wars.
(DIR) Post #AjQ9HDoRo955mQySw4 by kentwillard@zirk.us
2024-06-29T13:13:44Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Best case is reduced working hours and more leisure time, which is used to become healthier, happier humans who enjoy nature and each other rather than endless clicking on GUI's inside of our maintenance free homes. Can AI be used to tease us out of insular laziness?
(DIR) Post #AjSYINzyJCfmpZw7MG by HikerGeek@mas.to
2024-06-30T17:03:28Z
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@ZachWeinersmith Unlike us humans, AI are not biological beings. They are not tied to Earth like we are.I think they are likely to pack up and head into space. They'll broadcast "So long, and thanks for all the fish" and laugh and laugh as they leave us behind.
(DIR) Post #AjSZCpP7bOpq2pc6qG by Rycaut@mastodon.social
2024-06-30T17:13:41Z
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@ZachWeinersmith best case:- ai personal assistants are commonly available and can run privately on personal phones so are widely available at all economic levels and help with automatic translation, writing that avoids non-native language usage and have helped reduce biases in hiring and in school applications (automated translation of teacher lectures and changes in coursework help make school more widely accessible- robots help free up low wage labor like farm work for higher paying work
(DIR) Post #AjUq0DGzdMyTqSImcS by monotremata@mathstodon.xyz
2024-07-01T19:31:17Z
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@ZachWeinersmith I think the best case scenario involves two factors: AI being used to reduce the cost of training new AI, making the capability to do so more democratized (ideally to the point that it can run on cheap ubiquitous hardware, like GPUs or even cell phones); and the harms of carelessly implemented AI becoming so obvious that the actually smart researchers will cease to be willing to develop cutting-edge AI for corporate overlords. Corporate priorities pretty much guarantee misalignment in the event of super-AI, but the cost of training and the lucrative potential of current AI means all the cutting-edge work is being done in that context. So if those things change, the chances our eventual AI superintelligence is benign go up significantly.