Post AjN8Xqn3yUYbs8oQ4m by futurebird@sauropods.win
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(DIR) Post #AjN5jQFUBKD1ARvuNc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T01:49:49Z
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When there is an incumbent a debate is an opportunity for the country to "get to know" the challenger. When both candidates are former presidents, neither of whom have been out of the news even for a moment... what is the point?Will we learn anything new? I'm seeing a lot of panic and "This is bad for Biden" flickering by, and I'd agree ... if he wasn't someone we already knew. Never-forget the implicit desire media has for a horse race. I'll be curious to see the ratings.
(DIR) Post #AjN65aNTCh0Cx6EgaG by LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T01:53:35Z
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@futurebird I want to see the clock time, which was allowed to speak more. There's no point for a decibel meter, though, because Joe is doing ASMR next to a boombox.
(DIR) Post #AjN6F61Yua2ti0WWLg by danblondell@masto.nyc
2024-06-28T01:55:12Z
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@futurebird While both candidates are known, the states of their decay are variable and rarely stress tested in an adversarial situation
(DIR) Post #AjN6HkJI6HfnEU4zke by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T01:55:38Z
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@LinuxAndYarn It could be since Trump talks really really fast. I didn't realize just how fast until I tried typing a transcript of one of his speeches since I couldn't find a copy. Normally I can type fast enough for most speakers. Not him. He talks compulsively, it's a talent I guess, since many people think that saying a lot of words is ... impressive. But when you look at them on paper? Total nonsense, even before you start counting the lies.
(DIR) Post #AjN6TLFb64w4zEshJg by jik@federate.social
2024-06-28T01:57:28Z
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@futurebird There's only two ways Biden wins this election. Either he fires up the base to come out and vote, or he convinces the undecided low-information voters to vote for him. This debate was an opportunity to do both. He's miserably failing on both counts.
(DIR) Post #AjN6VrH50IoWt0m5Hk by jmjm@mstdn.social
2024-06-28T01:58:06Z
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@futurebird yeah of course. But seeing Biden step on his lines was demoralizing. He's right, but he's just not a reality TV star.I'm still going to get up tomorrow and fight harder.
(DIR) Post #AjN6XTNEpx9tL4QPlg by BlueWaver22@genomic.social
2024-06-28T01:58:24Z
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@futurebird but he seems more with it- sadly- I’m crying at Bidens performance- where is the Biden from state of union- Good this is not good at all. Biden needs to hand the nomination to somebody else at the convention.
(DIR) Post #AjN71kn0eO3O2Xv01w by Woodswalked@mstdn.party
2024-06-28T02:04:15Z
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@futurebird Thank you.
(DIR) Post #AjN8Xqn3yUYbs8oQ4m by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:21:20Z
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@BlueWaver22 I suspect, given the overly reactive nature of Democrats and their tendency to take all of the crying and moaning from Republicans too seriously they wanted Biden to see "Normal and Stable" and Trump to look "unhinged"So, they likely worried about having him come on too aggressive. Which they worry about all the time without reason. And it sounds like it didn't work at all. And media have been thirsty for *something* to "balence" their criticism. Hard given who Trump is.
(DIR) Post #AjN8dzxAos1o1pTNEO by LinuxAndYarn@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T02:22:26Z
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@futurebird @BlueWaver22 We got Uncle Fluffy.
(DIR) Post #AjN9GxyS72b1BQeVeK by clpkbc@mstdn.social
2024-06-28T02:29:27Z
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@futurebird @BlueWaver22 David Sedaris's take on the 2008 election applies here too."I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. 'Can I interest you in the chicken?' she asks. 'Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?' To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked."
(DIR) Post #AjN9Kf0UZdINW4Ms7c by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T02:30:07Z
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@futurebird My hope was that without editing people who previously were avoiding this stuff might see just how incoherently Trump rambles.Probably not though. Most just see what they want to see. Maybe if we frequency shifted the audio and adjusted tone or something a bit so he sounds different and said "this is a tape of someone's skinhead grandpa with Alzheimer's" and played it for people then corrected it after "oops, that was actually Trump" they might start to get it.
(DIR) Post #AjN9h3ZDwLnq3jICxc by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:34:11Z
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@clpkbc @BlueWaver22 It's not a helpful response, but this story always made me think: I don't know if I'd eat anything from one of those little carts, if they contained both. But, that's probably just over-thinking the analogy. Apparently this is more like a force feeding situation.
(DIR) Post #AjNA6xAyKCf1laIW80 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:38:53Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou More people are watching this debate to worry over what it means to imaginary "voters" who somehow do not have any opinion. Some are enjoying Trump because they enjoy him and think is funny and "tells it like it is"Let this lull them into surprise for November. I detest Biden. I don't find him compelling. I have never liked him. And I will ensure he will win because it's the only viable option. It's a very different kind of "enthusiasm" --
(DIR) Post #AjNAQAWmuImag8fFz6 by drakenblackknight@mastodon.online
2024-06-28T02:42:20Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou Everyone worrying about Biden's age should put three words into their thought processes: "President Kamala Harris"
(DIR) Post #AjNAT7mNaAzR1UMnC4 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:42:53Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou In some ways it's lends me a better sense of political clarity. With Obama I always had to remind myself that I didn't like him. Because he is very charismatic and a great public speaker. So, I had this sort of split mind thing going where I would think "Presidents are not the sort of people one should *like* they are components is a system you can't totally ignore."Biden is easy to see as a component. No danger of being charmed. But he's in the box & I am relentless.
(DIR) Post #AjNAgrhY9lN1DEexxA by tuban_muzuru@ohai.social
2024-06-28T02:45:21Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou My summary of this debate: Trump did a fine job of recycling his MAGA speeches - but it won't appeal to anyone else.Biden stood up to the firehose of sewage from Trump. Biden finally got the hook in at the very end with the Whiner business. That broke Trump's jaw.
(DIR) Post #AjNAzh146lOLZhlWtM by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T02:46:41Z
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@tuban_muzuru @futurebird I hope so on that last part. I don't know. Trump seems to be shockingly effective at being a whiny baby and simultaneously somehow getting his base to think he's a strong person.
(DIR) Post #AjNAzi7U0O7SztmAXA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:48:46Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @tuban_muzuru His base hasn't grown a bit in a year. That's his real issue. He can keep his strange people, but how can he get new ones?
(DIR) Post #AjNB3NSEmQbI40ERto by kellogh@hachyderm.io
2024-06-28T02:49:23Z
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@futurebird i think you have a lot of clarity of mind that is probably lacking from the majority of america. hell, i have a hard time even visualizing presidents as just a cog in the system. i’m worried about this debate, because i don’t think people dismiss superficial performance that easily @nazokiyoubinbou
(DIR) Post #AjNB5Q85nywowImedE by cobalt@awscommunity.social
2024-06-28T02:49:44Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou Boy oh boy, @futurebird you and I are totally on the same wavelength. O. M. G. "a very different kind of "enthusiasm" - spot on.
(DIR) Post #AjNBArKU6W6EkKAoEa by noplasticshower@zirk.us
2024-06-28T02:50:45Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou same
(DIR) Post #AjNBQbKZM25blDierw by tuban_muzuru@ohai.social
2024-06-28T02:49:13Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird It's always easy to yell No than follow up with a solution. Trump's much-ballyhooed tax cuts are financial nonsense. The MAGA crowd hates the rich.
(DIR) Post #AjNBQcUB3nMxLJDqU4 by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T02:51:29Z
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@tuban_muzuru @futurebird I'm not sure that MAGA do hate the rich. I think they pretend they do but don't really. They're a huge part of the ones who help prop up the various rich con men like Trump, Musk, etc etc.Really they just hate everything and everyone, but still treat the rich better than they should.
(DIR) Post #AjNBQcxxH5Bkpf9ctk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T02:53:37Z
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@nazokiyoubinbou @tuban_muzuru They don't hate "the rich" they hate "elites" (with the implied anti Semitism included)They don't like experts and eggs heads, pundits and professors, smarty pants. Anyone who has, or might make them feel ... a step behind. And such people can be arrogant and annoying which doesn't help.
(DIR) Post #AjNBYx22YP3RNl2Au8 by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T02:55:09Z
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@futurebird @tuban_muzuru I don't know how I forgot a thing like that. This is EXACTLY on point. I used to be hated by these very same people simply because I didn't know how to shut my brain off like they did. (Note I don't actually mention intelligence one way or the other because that isn't the issue at hand.)
(DIR) Post #AjNBlVi7RezIPYhlVQ by tuban_muzuru@ohai.social
2024-06-28T02:57:23Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou The GOP, which has always kept its finger wet in the wind, understands their core voters, the old Boomer poots, are being tucked into their overpriced coffins. The kids can barely stand Biden, but they fear and despise Trump. The younger GOP rodents are coming out of the woodwork to snipe at Trump. The Lincoln Project is embarrassing many mainline Republicans into silence.
(DIR) Post #AjNCnOL1vV4k4zMkwS by virtualinanity@toot.community
2024-06-28T03:08:53Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou I can’t remember a single Obama speech. I think he benefited from comparison following w bush but overall he felt too much like a McKinsey consultant when he spoke.
(DIR) Post #AjNDXpPVbYJFMabU80 by apophis@brain.worm.pink
2024-06-28T03:14:06.116372Z
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@futurebird @BlueWaver22 > So, they likely worried about having him come on too aggressive. Which they worry about all the time without reason. > And it sounds like it didn't work at all. this sounds like *substantive* democrat policy from the last 15-20 years
(DIR) Post #AjNERfU9h15OnXP516 by wrosecrans@mstdn.social
2024-06-28T03:27:27Z
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@futurebird @LinuxAndYarn A statistic I ran across recently is that is most groups, people will accept whoever talks the most as the leader. Talking the most is a stronger indicator than even gender.Trump has learned he gets great reactions from groups of stupid people by just flooding the zone so he seems to be in control of it. People are still surprised that it works.
(DIR) Post #AjNGF59R9l7sXiq4nI by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T03:47:31Z
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@drakenblackknight @nazokiyoubinbou His age is the last thing I'm worried about TBH.
(DIR) Post #AjNGTklpDKwdg0n4KW by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T03:49:56Z
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@futurebird @drakenblackknight Agreed, but the right has managed to convince a lot of people even outside their base that somehow Biden's age is worse than Trump's (even though it's only a three year difference and Trump is the one showing far worse mental decline.) I think it is a good response to that particular claim at least I guess.I don't even know where to start with many people. So many have an all or nothing attitude and are so easily convinced by the wrong stuff.
(DIR) Post #AjNGbxCItVyCXF5O88 by howlinhobbit@musicians.today
2024-06-28T03:51:41Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou I don’t *detest* Biden. I’m not much of a fanboy either. because he, like many other Democrat presidents, governors, etc. feel they can maim or bypass the Constitution with a stroke of a pen on an “executive order.”/1
(DIR) Post #AjNKmT7XSXiQFu7twm by MichaelTBacon@social.coop
2024-06-28T04:37:59Z
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@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou I was pretty unhappy about the Biden nomination in '20 and had very low expectations. He's widely surpassed those expectations, mostly because of the actually meaningful climate legislation he got through and the pro-union stuff. That's been good. The bad stuff that came with it has been bad but I expected most of it.Since Obama I've tried to permanently lower my expectations of a President. The best ones are extremely rare and still horribly flawed.
(DIR) Post #AjO9GkBXZd4dZld0KG by MisuseCase@twit.social
2024-06-28T12:10:12Z
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@rob @futurebird >> “There are millions of Americans who were shellshocked by what they saw last night.”Oh my God LOL.>> “Biden looked and sounded like he had dementia”You’re one of the people who wanted to replace him with someone else before the debate, aren’t you? I’ve been wasting my time talking to you.
(DIR) Post #AjO9GlLrEkv9C3Sl2u by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-06-28T14:04:01Z
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@MisuseCase @rob No, I was yelling about replacing him for three years and about six months ago I realized it was not going to happen (I wrote letters, made calls… but I’m just a NYC school teacher who cares right?) so I have decided to accept this is what we need to do. I will do it. (can’t pretend to be a fan, however)