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(DIR) Post #Aj1Jn2qGUxI6XhuQ5I by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T13:43:13Z
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Oooh, ooh, ooh… look what just arrived! I’ve been waiting almost a year for it and boy was it worth the wait. My new Linux laptop is a… tablet? Yep. The StarLabs StarLite.Oh and the screen on this thing! 😍https://ie.starlabs.systems/pages/starlite#linux #tablet #StarLabs #StarLite
(DIR) Post #Aj1Jzm7vxJEaSzFAfI by JackTheCat@mastodon.scot
2024-06-17T13:45:31Z
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@aral If you're happy I'm happy.
(DIR) Post #Aj1K92kPWv4acXf0KW by danslerush@floss.social
2024-06-17T13:47:11Z
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@aral My gosh, there's even a French keyboard (something that never normally happens). I need some feedback after a bit of use 🤓
(DIR) Post #Aj1KEfrZWjAfNoh9Rg by hyde@lazybear.social
2024-06-17T13:48:16Z
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@aral Looks like the #ColourChallenge - Blue !
(DIR) Post #Aj1KbVeldmI6O9av4q by nigenet@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T13:52:21Z
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@aral Is this the Year of Linux On The Tablet? 🙂
(DIR) Post #Aj1KhTkvcV4CEPK436 by fkamiah17@syzito.xyz
2024-06-17T13:53:28Z
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@aral Yay for new toys! 🥳
(DIR) Post #Aj1L10GexxPSZDTUUy by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T13:56:56Z
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@aral Sweet.Which distro did you choose?
(DIR) Post #Aj1L8W2FFmlh7SJYjA by Paulos_the_fog@qoto.org
2024-06-17T13:57:26Z
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@aral Frankly, I'd say they are off their fuckin heads! Whatever they have been smoking, I don't want any!700+ Euros for a Linux tablet.I can get a competent laptop for that money or a decent Android tablet for 100€ to 200€
(DIR) Post #Aj1Lwc6uwK2KROO9EO by djohngo@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T14:07:20Z
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@aral Very enticing! Definitely check back and let us know how you like it.
(DIR) Post #Aj1MCvYAQpYJMfugZE by basyl@kafeneio.social
2024-06-17T14:10:16Z
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@aral looks very slick! Curious to know how it deals with temperature: does it get too warm when used intensively?#linux #tablet #StarLabs #StarLite
(DIR) Post #Aj1MKgo58B5HxK3geW by petit_suisse@toot.community
2024-06-17T14:11:46Z
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cheers @aral a review, a review, a review!You can already skip anything about gaming perf, we don't care about that sh**.But- responsivness- active pen?- batterylife- heating- audio
(DIR) Post #Aj1OMD4SrI7KDfZebI by trilobyte@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T14:34:20Z
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@aral At first, I was confused few moments 🙂 So... they re-used name "StarLite" for the tablet. We have the previous StarLite Mk IV at home, which is quite nice small laptop. Interesting move, but this one looks pretty cool too 😉
(DIR) Post #Aj1OWXXfbPkubaA0ye by maltimore@social.tchncs.de
2024-06-17T14:36:17Z
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@aral I did not know this existed! That looks very appealing! 12h battery life, no fan? Yes please
(DIR) Post #Aj1QemzUFSi0k9EV8q by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T14:59:49Z
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@gregandcin That’s the plan :) It’s got Ubuntu on it now.
(DIR) Post #Aj1QjDwpxozPVZ6lgu by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:00:01Z
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@JackTheCat Haha, thanks 💕
(DIR) Post #Aj1QmbDNulPUXPSR04 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:00:34Z
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@danslerush Sure :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1QtOIaKoikVS823U by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:02:50Z
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@Professor_Stevens It’s got Ubuntu on it from StarLabs (just wanted to make sure everything was working. I’ll likely put Silverblue on it. Although I first want to see if the bug with popovers not showing is a GNOME issue or an Ubuntu issue.
(DIR) Post #Aj1R0fRN06ixhIhurY by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:03:53Z
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@djohngo Will do :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1R4dCfGD87uvie5w by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:04:20Z
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@basyl I’ll let you know once I’ve had a chance to put it through its paces :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1R8KELk7XuETGj0y by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:05:02Z
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@petit_suisse Will do :) Give me a little time to break it in :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1RCHPq9LJOf3WrRI by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:05:52Z
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@trilobyte Yep. And it’s basically supposed to be laptop-level. Let’s see; haven’t really done anything with it yet (it’s charging and I cooked lunch) :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1SfXpgI7rnvf8OFE by K_REY_C@social.coop
2024-06-17T15:22:30Z
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@aral @petit_suisse Also very interested in the review specifically of the pen and drawing. My daughter loves #krita so much and is very much interested in finding something that would work well! We're at the beginning of our search.
(DIR) Post #Aj1TX9y7EVfzYOe3sW by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T15:32:27Z
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@aral I'm using GNOME on a Manjaro install I did over the weekend. Can you tell me how to reproduce the bug? I'll let you know what happens on my setup.
(DIR) Post #Aj1UlZxDW4C69efFHE by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:46:07Z
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@Professor_Stevens Just tap the hamburger menu or a drop-down menu in Settings. None of them appear.
(DIR) Post #Aj1jJp6x4GxKMqROEK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:05:54Z
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@enriquericos @petit_suisse I don’t believe it has a pen, sorry :(
(DIR) Post #Aj1jJqdbOMfR6OiylE by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:47:47Z
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@enriquericos @petit_suisse Oh, my bad, there is a pen you can get separately: https://starlabs.systems/collections/accessories/products/stylus (I don’t have it.)
(DIR) Post #Aj1kD8TAnNBOKkD3Qm by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T15:57:56Z
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@Professor_Stevens (This is not an issue I have on non-touchscreen; wondering if it’s a touchscreen issue or a touchscreen on Ubuntu issue… or…?)
(DIR) Post #Aj1kD9UczRwNVXtjKy by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:07:32Z
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@Professor_Stevens Ah, looks like a three-year old GNOME/GTK 4 issue: apparently popovers don’t work in GTK 4 on touchscreens. I guess I have to install KDE Plasma on this if I want a working tablet? (Unless that has issues on tablets too…)
(DIR) Post #Aj1kD9yPCjlAztpVke by uzayran@cyberplace.social
2024-06-17T16:45:48Z
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@aral @Professor_Stevens Plasma on my Steam Deck running Bazzite (Fedora-based atomic distro) seems to work fine with touch. Touch targets seem a bit small, but it's also just a 7-inch, 800p screen.
(DIR) Post #Aj1lC3xECIS1ziJt9k by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T17:13:58Z
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@uzayran @Professor_Stevens Thanks, that’s good to know :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1lzp1TzBuKAH2Laq by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:10:42Z
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So, first issue, popovers (eg., drop-down menus, app menus, etc.) don’t work on GTK 4 apps (like System Settings in GNOME) on touchscreen devices.Three-year old bug here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1523I guess that means tablets are not currently supported under GNOME.Going to see if KDE Plasma works on touchscreen Linux tablets.*sigh!*#gnome #linux #tablet #gtk4 #kde #plasma #popovers #mutter
(DIR) Post #Aj1lzqLN4jPWGFLkES by sonny@floss.social
2024-06-17T16:17:49Z
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@aral it should be fixed in a recent GNOME version, complain to your distroFedora 40 should work just fine
(DIR) Post #Aj1lzqkBaTGBVCxYuW by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:38:37Z
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@sonny The bug’s still listed as open but, sure, I will test with latest Fedora. Starlabs is shipping with latest Ubuntu and a number of other operating systems. Will let them know to at least not ship Ubuntu until they update.
(DIR) Post #Aj1lzr906D6qkAZNaa by sonny@floss.social
2024-06-17T17:16:22Z
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@aral Ubuntu can backport the fix.The issue is now closed on GNOME side.Thanks @verdre for fixing the bugs and making GNOME better on mobile/touch 🤩
(DIR) Post #Aj1msVwmbw1MvfuyYa by JackTheCat@mastodon.scot
2024-06-17T16:12:40Z
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@aral Literally no idea what any of this means. 🤷♂️
(DIR) Post #Aj1msXFxk6xOzRto5g by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T16:15:24Z
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@JackTheCat It means Ubuntu (and likely any other distribution that defaults to GNOME) is broken on tablet computers.But things like this happen in the Linux world. Basically all major Linux distributions are also currently shipping with a broken screen reader, making them inaccessible to people who rely on one to use a computer.🤷♂️ #linux #gnome #tablet #pc #computer #accessibility #a11y
(DIR) Post #Aj1msYG01Sa45qvLmq by docRekd@hachyderm.io
2024-06-17T16:17:44Z
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@JackTheCat @aral yeah for screen reader you either have to go with X11 or (at least on KDE) enable the option to allow X11 apps to be a keylogger
(DIR) Post #Aj1n1l2FslrgKZsw8e by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T19:10:34Z
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@aral This worth anything?
(DIR) Post #Aj1nLyrICKCUziOt9M by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:14:27Z
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@Professor_Stevens All good. @sonny informed me that the bug has been fixed and I can confirm that it is in the latest Fedora Silverblue.
(DIR) Post #Aj1nqpByBgojzWmOpc by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:20:03Z
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@gregandcin Just did; writing from it now. You need latest Fedora at the moment anyway as popovers don't work otherwise.PS. Just had to plug in my external keyboard to finish typing this in as the on-screen keyboard in GNOME is super-janky: you can’t hit backspace several times in a row, corrupts the text and because sometimes keys get stuck (spacebar got stuck this time).PPS. That said; GNOME has come so far in responsiveness. Quite amazing.
(DIR) Post #Aj1o14bnivmmhWkUkq by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T19:21:55Z
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@aral @sonny Cool.Now, I realize FOSS is all someone's passion project, so I don't want to be a pest. But I was kind of stunned to see that GNOME only supports two zoom sizes, 100% and 200% (which might as well be labeled "much too small" and "way too big").A workaround is to use the "large type" setting in Accessibility. But people are telling me I can get more zoom levels if I turn on some "experimental" flag.Seriously? Zooming is experimental for GNOME in 2024?
(DIR) Post #Aj1o1WV21h0ZCdnU5g by ladyerrant@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T17:38:16Z
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@aral careful lest you offend the mob
(DIR) Post #Aj1oMBAmVsxR8nAtsG by ryanprior@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T16:15:53Z
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@aral I haven't tried PureOS myself but given that it's designed to run on Librem phones it's hopefully usable on touchscreen, and I think it's based on gtk.
(DIR) Post #Aj1oSOEIshXFNCmeJc by JackTheCat@mastodon.scot
2024-06-17T16:29:47Z
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@aral I got some of that. Thanks. 😂
(DIR) Post #Aj1omxBYctvBZuIxY8 by Sh41@androiddev.social
2024-06-17T16:39:53Z
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@aral that's cool. It's great when hardware companies embrace Linux. I love my System 76!
(DIR) Post #Aj1oshzW1zPcBwPsqO by uzayran@cyberplace.social
2024-06-17T16:26:01Z
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@aral @enriquericos @petit_suisse They sell an optional pen for it that uses the Microsoft Pen Protocol. I didn't get it either, but a Surface pen should work as well
(DIR) Post #Aj1pAInASYmvFa1vZA by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:34:43Z
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@Professor_Stevens @sonny A big part of the problem is hardware vendors who don’t understand what resolution to implement for different screen sizes.Case in point: the display on my new StarLite is 12.5" and supports a resolution of 2,880×1,920 which is absolutely perfect at 200%. Just gorgeous. (I believe StarLabs had an issue with sourcing this panel so future panels will be slightly lower resolution sadly, at least for the moment.)
(DIR) Post #Aj1pCRfeQ4nlMmXIoa by uzayran@cyberplace.social
2024-06-17T16:16:59Z
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@aral Awesome! Still waiting for mine that is supposed to be sent out in two days. So excited!
(DIR) Post #Aj1pFO44HeTT3DMN8q by petit_suisse@toot.community
2024-06-17T19:28:30Z
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@enriquericos Definitely :) But #starlabs need to work on their PR. I couldn't believe they don't see how neglected it is.@aral
(DIR) Post #Aj1pFP6wOSMmIPiBG4 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:35:44Z
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@petit_suisse @enriquericos Yeah, I don’t think it is actually listed on the StarLite page, which is why I missed it initially.
(DIR) Post #Aj1ptcPENlIH74RUNk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:42:58Z
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Oh, man, so I’ll be writing a proper review of the new #StarLite #Linux #tablet but initial thoughts…Emotional brain: I love this thing! The screen alone is amazing. Just gorgeous! 2,880×1,920 @ 200% is perfect. Feels amazing in your hand in portrait orientation.Rational brain: Has basic usability issues.• Can’t use encrypted drive without external keyboard• GNOME on-screen keyboard unusable• Front camera is crap• Back camera not recognised (?)But amazing this even exists… more soon.
(DIR) Post #Aj1pxIJn0gPlyDeMYS by rspfau@ecoevo.social
2024-06-17T19:43:37Z
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@aral This may reveal my ignorance, but can Windows or MacOS be installed and run on a tablet? Or do tablets have to run a tablet-specific OS?
(DIR) Post #Aj1q9BfDZoT4o6LNmC by loptimist@piaille.fr
2024-06-17T16:25:12Z
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@aral The fix is available in recent releases of gnome, your distro is probably lagging behind
(DIR) Post #Aj1qGPWASxQFnlYTrs by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-17T19:47:02Z
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@aral Probably going to go back to KDE myself.
(DIR) Post #Aj1qQVJNmP9afOO6qm by sonny@floss.social
2024-06-17T19:48:50Z
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@aral thanks for the updatePlease complain to your operating system or hardware vendor in the future 🙏 Really anyone who makes money of this product.Not to a community of (mostly) volunteers.
(DIR) Post #Aj1qUJAKsc909fyDVw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:49:01Z
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@rspfau Not that you should install Windows on anything but Microsoft have Surface tablets that run some mutation of the OS. You’d likely have issues just installing stock Windows on a tablet. (See first point.) MacOS is proprietary as all fuck so, no, it won’t run on anything but a Mac without much hackery (but Apple will happily sell you an iPad).Both GNOME and Plasma, however, follow a responsive approach and support touch so they will run on tablets like this one. (To various degrees.)
(DIR) Post #Aj1qYQ33EUpkevWV3w by aud@fire.asta.lgbt
2024-06-17T19:47:32.124Z
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@aral@mastodon.ar.al (if you do end up trying KDE Plasma I’m very curious how well it works!)
(DIR) Post #Aj1qYRCIxZpWDurP7o by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:49:54Z
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@aud I should before I get too attached to my familiar environment and start being productive or something :P
(DIR) Post #Aj1qcfWZdPidoeMI5o by cameronbosch@fosstodon.org
2024-06-17T19:50:21Z
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@aral Shame they got rid of the 3k option. Looks like I'll have to get a Windows option and put Linux on it...
(DIR) Post #Aj1qhH6vpb8zXwYqpc by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T19:50:54Z
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@sonny I’m not complaining to anyone. I’m sharing my experiences. *breathe, breathe*OK, thanks for your help.Take care + all the best.
(DIR) Post #Aj1qmaoa02Xo6aVr2e by devolute@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T16:26:21Z
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@aral I so very much want Gnome on thing to work out for you. Keep us posted.
(DIR) Post #Aj1qqOSPt12iwBxUGG by sashin@veganism.social
2024-06-17T19:53:36Z
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@aral @sonny Wait, did it work out if the box on silverblue?
(DIR) Post #Aj1qyIRI95ICabCVXM by SocialJusticeHeals@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T16:26:04Z
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@aralAt least with some distros, you can install MATE and switch it to default at install time.I don't think MATE uses gtk4 menus but I don't really know.@JackTheCat
(DIR) Post #Aj1rGPdA993U6cOLS4 by Alcarendor@paquita.masto.host
2024-06-17T19:57:40Z
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@aralUh I just discovered this tablet and I will wait for your review, because if the on screen keyboard works well on KDE, this is the thing I've been dreaming of for my travels.
(DIR) Post #Aj1rYTiXgsqJzdWSKe by triskelion@floss.social
2024-06-17T20:01:36Z
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@aral I find KDE Plasma workflow better on tablets :P
(DIR) Post #Aj1rcvn1GEQ0DRjvd2 by MichaelTBacon@social.coop
2024-06-17T20:02:09Z
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@aral Putting GNOME on a tablet seems like . . . a really bad idea.Tablets are just screaming out for a for more restrictive, prescriptive UI framework. And GNOME is very much not that.
(DIR) Post #Aj1sgtYvaFLwQ8bQUy by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:14:20Z
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@MichaelTBacon It’s actually quite amazing how good it is. Until it isn’t. It gets so much right but also fails at basic things like stuck keys and the backspace key corrupting input on the on-screen keyboard which make it unsuable.But it won’t get all the way there until they address the culture of taking every piece of feedback as a personal attack.If people care enough to point out issues and make suggestions, that’s good. What any project should fear the most is silence.
(DIR) Post #Aj1t7YBLBRfXvfHQjA by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:19:07Z
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@triskelion I am planning on trying it out but certain issues will affect both (like not being able to decrypt the drive without an external keyboard which is a LUKS issue).
(DIR) Post #Aj1tAmh9gFxDoFhf5E by Viss@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T20:19:10Z
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@aral oh man i would so love a usable linux tablet!
(DIR) Post #Aj1tN2MtEZK3tU4D0j by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:21:56Z
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@cameronbosch Ah they’re sold out of those options. Wow, first time getting in early seems to have paid off (usually, I get stuck with expensive paperweights) :)Sorry I don’t know any comparable tablets at the moment but I’ll boost your post in case anyone else does.
(DIR) Post #Aj1tTzhhXR3veq7Pmq by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:22:31Z
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@ruben_int @devolute You’re not finding the on-screen keyboard unusable?
(DIR) Post #Aj1tdny21tO89YR2eW by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:24:59Z
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@ruben_int @devolute What happens when you write some text then repeatedly press the backspace key in the on-screen keyboard. Is your input not corrupted?(Similarly, have you not run into stuck keys sometimes? I’ve had it happen at least three times in the last few hours. Dismissing the keyboard doesn’t seem to fix it.)
(DIR) Post #Aj1tkrx7buucXZNV2m by uzayran@cyberplace.social
2024-06-17T20:26:04Z
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@aral I hope those basic usability issues will get resolved when some maintainers will have access to the device as well. I know @elementary's founder is expecting hers soon at least :)
(DIR) Post #Aj1ubRhZwNVwTPB7Q0 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-17T20:35:37Z
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@uzayran @elementary Yeah, getting it in the hands of display environment devs would be a smart move on their part. Glad to hear she’s getting one.
(DIR) Post #Aj1unrzc19SZUJXOQi by mathieucomandon@fosstodon.org
2024-06-17T20:38:00Z
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KDE Plasma 6 on touchscreen is *so good*.I have a Surface Pro and the keyboard connector broke. I can use the device just fine without an external keyboard for most things.
(DIR) Post #Aj1yJN5Ykllgln23O4 by ladyerrant@mastodon.social
2024-06-17T21:17:16Z
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@aral Does it have a flap on the back to hold it up while docked, or a real hinge? I really miss the old asus transformers with the hinge. I can never get the flap thing to sit on my lap right.
(DIR) Post #Aj20cYmjgrraSKVNce by otakup0pe@sfba.social
2024-06-17T21:43:11Z
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@aral @triskelion hella curious about the luks issue there. I get an on screen keyboard on my surface go with full disk encryption turned on. I think what I'm trying to say is there is hope!
(DIR) Post #Aj20tSsIux1L35Acng by wazaby@h4.io
2024-06-17T21:46:05Z
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@aral @gregandcin do you have a workaround or antoher way to use it without the physical keyboard?
(DIR) Post #Aj21OD1PuOp0rI5oci by MichaelTBacon@social.coop
2024-06-17T21:51:46Z
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@aral I've said this before, but I've been truly waiting for 25 years for GNOME to fulfill its potential and enforce some closure on its design. It hasn't done it yet and at this point I think it's going to be what it is and will never be anything more. Some people love that. I find it unuseable.
(DIR) Post #Aj225KAjCTWHUE0Uk4 by falken@qoto.org
2024-06-17T21:59:30Z
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@aral neat! Would be interested in full review. Like, does the pen dock to the tablet anywhere? Or will I loose it like you have the rest of the Lego?
(DIR) Post #Aj2F3UZmqUJcZzBVpI by markstos@urbanists.social
2024-06-18T00:24:57Z
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@aral @jamil I’m not a fan of standard laptop keyboard layouts, so I like the idea of a tablet as a BYOK design.
(DIR) Post #Aj2fluglibFr7GIClU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-18T05:24:16Z
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@zak @triskelion @UniversalBlue Ooh, yes, been meaning to try it out for a while now. This would be a good reason to. Thank you :)
(DIR) Post #Aj2tJg6PXgpxAH9GGO by Sh41@androiddev.social
2024-06-18T07:55:53Z
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@aral it's shocking both, that it exists and that it fails at basic usability things.
(DIR) Post #Aj3BWO5fcV8UF10nlg by laubblaeser@ruhr.social
2024-06-18T11:20:00Z
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@aral Eagerly awaiting mine but in the meantime, could you elaborate a tiny bit on the crappy front camera? I want to use the device for some video calls with friends and this would be a real downer.
(DIR) Post #Aj3IEtIdXu5BV8gHbs by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-18T12:35:14Z
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@laubblaeser Well, there’s always the chance I got a lemon but, given my experience with the StarLabs MKIV, the video camera and microphone are on par with that; which is to say unusable (crackly, tinny audio; low-quality video. Although, I guess the video would still be usable if the audio wasn’t so bad. But you can use a headset/mic, I guess. And an external web cam.) I’ll post a recording when I get a moment.
(DIR) Post #Aj3QruoSeWAP7bga0G by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-18T14:11:40Z
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@lexd0g @gregandcin I’ll try them out, thanks :)
(DIR) Post #Aj3TFy7eCQW0FCG0m0 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-18T14:38:39Z
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@lexd0g @gregandcin So I just installed GJS OSK (if you install it from the release on github, you can get the GNOME 46 version). This keyboard is usable 🤓 (And dragging on space moves the cursor like on iOS.)(Wrote this using it.)
(DIR) Post #Aj3tTrU6H02gWH2pVo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-18T19:32:35Z
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@lexd0g @gregandcin So here’s the fundamental problem with all of these implementations: they have no knowledge of what’s actually on screen and so they can easily cover the area you’re trying to type into. This has to be handled at a lower level if it’s ever to be properly usable.
(DIR) Post #Aj51wAOsX2Hc5MZPCC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T08:42:06Z
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Another observation, having charged it to capacity twice now and let it discharge fully once:The battery only charges up to 96% and dies at 2%.Not the worst possible thing but I would expect a new device to charge to 100% and die at 1%. The former likely more important than the latter.Hope the battery doesn’t have the same journey that the one on my StarLabs Mk IV did – it dies at around 65% or so after two years.#StarLabs #StarLite #mkIV #linux #laptop #tablet #battery
(DIR) Post #Aj53QWd2YFtrfREZEm by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T08:58:48Z
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So I spoke to the StarLabs folks and the 96% max charge is apparently by design to protect the battery.#StarLabs #StarLite #mkIV #linux #laptop #tablet #battery
(DIR) Post #Aj53mWCynLWEjbX0zI by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T09:02:45Z
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@dascandy I’m assuming it’s because they don’t have control over that with the OS (unlike Apple, etc., who have control over the hardware and the software). They could, of course, if they customised an OS and optimised it (perhaps as the official distribution where everything works the best it can… ah, if only there were more hours in the day, it’s something I’d love to work on…)
(DIR) Post #Aj53pfmVeunzIGedwO by dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
2024-06-19T09:02:49Z
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@aral Well… <inhales for a rant about measuring batteries capacity can be only done indirectly by non-linear voltage drop measurements>……<exhales>…better not…
(DIR) Post #Aj53xVQg2277VIB4Ns by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T09:04:47Z
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@dzwiedziu Well, yes, we all know it’s a dark art – just saying that if someone sees their fully-charged battery at 96%, they’re going think something is wrong whereas if they see it at 100% they’re going to think everything’s all right :) It’s more about communicating well ;)
(DIR) Post #Aj547YnENdKYpeWNX6 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T09:06:24Z
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@dascandy Interesting. If you’d like to give them any pointers, they have a leave us a message thingy at https://ie.starlabs.systems and they’re usually rather responsive. I’m sure they’d be happy for any tips on how to improve the experience :)
(DIR) Post #Aj54OrgxMsryMuq1Ds by dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
2024-06-19T09:09:43Z
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@aral Right, should have mentioned that. As you can always show 100% and 1% when it's “in reality” 96% and 2% with a note attached in the details.
(DIR) Post #Aj550CHplBJ2xNt8y0 by Mabande@mastodon.social
2024-06-19T09:16:28Z
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@aral My previous phone did that too, but they had a li'l popup with something like "charging to 95% for optimal battery life" and the occasional "charging to 100% to test battery capacity", so I never got annoyed by it (except of course for when it was supposed to charge to 100 and I needed to unplug :) ).
(DIR) Post #Aj56EUxtD9QitXwWCu by mekuso@fosstodon.org
2024-06-19T09:30:11Z
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@aral As a point of reference, on Tuxedo computers running TuxedoOS you can set the maximum charging limit to 80%, 90% or 100%. When charged to this limit, it is shown to other programs (such as KDE's battery indicator) as 100%.I think this is a reasonable behavior, fairly easy to understand. And the battery settings contains a brief explanation of the tradeoffs.
(DIR) Post #Aj57d3RAnNEmiGufq4 by pludikovsky@chaos.social
2024-06-19T09:45:48Z
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@aral Does `tlp-stat -s` return somehing? In that case you should be able to change the max charge threshold, and fix the cutoff point by running `tlp recalibrate`.Details: https://linrunner.de/tlp/index.html
(DIR) Post #Aj59FBWTHYA0kR8Yz2 by dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
2024-06-19T10:03:54Z
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@aral I have a new fidget toy ^_^
(DIR) Post #Aj5AfedXl7uOWjdA12 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T10:19:59Z
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@pludikovsky Thanks, I’ll have a look :)
(DIR) Post #Aj5Amnx1WliJRR9TNo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-19T10:21:12Z
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@dzwiedziu Haha, oh boy, they really are very precise in their estimates ;)
(DIR) Post #Aj5E2ehpy2lBGTIYjI by ben@pgh.social
2024-06-19T10:57:43Z
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@aral these go to eleven
(DIR) Post #Aj5vtef79ogCVOXjyi by furniturelink@mastodon.design
2024-06-19T19:08:58Z
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@aral I'm not techie. I own a four year old Star Lite running Mint. I couldn't be happier with the laptop and service from StarLabs. The accessories not so much. They've fixed issues with the charging transformer/cable but I'm on my third battery (orig. +2). First two charged to 100% -- a green light came on. Apparently 100% charging decreased battery life and was lowered in the firmware. There's now no green light indicator. So far the latest battery is charging without problems to 98%
(DIR) Post #Aj6eGAVXpg9fcvc2q0 by PuddleOfKittens@fosstodon.org
2024-06-20T03:26:09Z
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@aral In Android there's a toggle to normalize the 0-100% battery indicator to actual capacity (so for the 2-96% number, subtract 2 and divide by 0.94). Maybe they just forgot to port/toggle that on Linux?
(DIR) Post #AjMHxT1vds1M8j5ycq by starlabssystems@mastodon.social
2024-06-27T14:50:58Z
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@petit_suisse @enriquericos @aral Noted!
(DIR) Post #AjMHxUA7QuANePw21w by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-27T16:31:34Z
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@starlabssystems @petit_suisse @enriquericos Haha, welcome to the fediverse :)
(DIR) Post #AjNg9he3io8j05G2rI by starlabssystems@mastodon.social
2024-06-28T08:37:24Z
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@aral @petit_suisse @enriquericos Thank you Aral!I'm sure I'll be seeing more of you in the discussions as we start our presence on Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #AkKigi9VWG5qzfiYcq by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-26T20:13:49Z
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@Phiznlil Don’t let me stop you. The firmware update fixes any initial issues.The biggest letdown is, sadly, software. Specifically the on-screen keyboard. Under GNOME, backspace is broken in Firefox. Under KDE OSK doesn’t have required keys for Konsole.But if you get the keyboard (get the keyboard), it’s an amazing Linux laptop that you can also use as a tablet for most things.Also, I’d say get the pen too. Drawing with it is pretty awesome.
(DIR) Post #AkKnTxBqnV9ndfY9Me by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-07-26T21:07:31Z
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@Phiznlil I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. Is it a beautiful device.