Post AivJxi1bvimJtWpChU by lkngrrr@hachyderm.io
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 (DIR) Post #AivDpB06EM1PQhfMJc by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
       2024-06-14T15:08:23Z
       
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       So. Literally everything that i and many others who have thought and written truly carefully about the social implications of "AI" have said in the past decade pretty much amounts to "Do Not Do This Exact Kind of Thing; In Fact UNDO How Often You've Done This Exact Kind of Thing." And yet here we are.The FUCKING NSA, openAI?! JFC y'allhttps://www.theverge.com/2024/6/13/24178079/openai-board-paul-nakasone-nsa-safety
       
 (DIR) Post #AivE1RmbeyOwxECpRA by peter@thepit.social
       2024-06-14T15:10:39Z
       
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       @Wolven my god, they must be kind of desperate to take the mask off this early.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivE6BjEmEOcbutI0G by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
       2024-06-14T15:11:29Z
       
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 (DIR) Post #AivF0ZLMAGYW4Eba9A by guncelawits@mastodon.social
       2024-06-14T15:21:33Z
       
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       @Wolven Tech CEO: “follow… the… incentives… as… they… exist…”
       
 (DIR) Post #AivIMJryfziiJEvVBY by wackJackle@norden.social
       2024-06-14T15:59:12Z
       
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       @Wolven We're already so deep into dystopia that I just shrugged reading this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivJjKPWvjtubP9i8u by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
       2024-06-14T16:14:36Z
       
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       Every single thing about "AI" as currently construed is inextricably woven with carcerality, capitalism, white supremacy (with racism, ableism, sexism, & LGBTQ+ hate being foundational thereto), hegemony, and kyriarchy, and we must name, examine, and deconstruct those before we can build something better.I've been saying this since roughly 2012; like, there are inklings of it in my earlier stuff, but that's when i started to get explicit about it. And that's just me; to do that i necessarily had to *Build on People Who Were Doing Similar Work Long Before Me*.But because of certain deeply vested interests, we're still out here having this fight.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivJxi1bvimJtWpChU by lkngrrr@hachyderm.io
       2024-06-14T16:17:07Z
       
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       @Wolven Thank you for making me look up “kyriarchy”.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivMy22lnhhZqODFKK by kubikpixel@chaos.social
       2024-06-14T16:50:35Z
       
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       @Wolven link on german about::mastodon: https://chaos.social/@kubikpixel/112613405874791303
       
 (DIR) Post #AivWotmg8gtlA9yBTU by huntingdon@mstdn.social
       2024-06-14T18:41:14Z
       
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       @Wolven With appointments like a former head of the NSA to the OpenAI board, weaponization is built in. I'll just have to go back to reading my Daniel Suarez novels.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivhiQpfy0RR84UTSq by ppxl@social.tchncs.de
       2024-06-14T20:43:17Z
       
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       @Wolven oh look! They're building the Torment Nexus™ from the cautionary tale "Don't build the Torment Nexus"
       
 (DIR) Post #AivhwYMCmrN6WLRJ9E by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2024-06-14T20:45:51Z
       
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       @Wolven I dunno maybe this should also cause academics to reconsider the value of Torment Nexus Studies. (“If we whine loud enough someone else will fix this right, clearly the problem is that the torment nexus industry isn’t hiring enough people out of the Torment Nexus Studies and Torment Nexus Ethics programs”)
       
 (DIR) Post #Aivi2WfpxUvH2NTD7I by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2024-06-14T20:46:59Z
       
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       @Wolven I’ll be honest, I’ll only really start to worry when the NSA decide they can replace a lot of their intelligence-gathering work with artificial intelligence (pun absolutely intended)
       
 (DIR) Post #AivnkSCqQiTLh4fuW8 by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
       2024-06-14T21:50:53Z
       
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       @ppxl https://ourislandgeorgia.net/@Wolven/112615613350949228
       
 (DIR) Post #AivnxaAA9rzY8TgGLg by Wolven@ourislandgeorgia.net
       2024-06-14T21:52:47Z
       
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       @kevinriggle So just… don't have people who study the ethics and social implications of things involved? So… No change, except cutting out the trying? Cool.
       
 (DIR) Post #AivpqVMXo67n84E0Yq by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2024-06-14T22:14:26Z
       
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       @Wolven Lots of people in engineering already have ethics. We don’t need some rich asshole who could afford a humanities degree to tell us what is ethical or not. Capitalize on us! These fuckers swan in like we’ve never considered that our work has a moral dimension! My father is a Lutheran pastor! Thirty seconds after they open their mouths it’s already clear i have a deeper reference pool and also more on the ground experience
       
 (DIR) Post #Aivv0LMWLIkEmQizcO by susankayequinn@wandering.shop
       2024-06-14T23:11:35Z
       
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       @Wolven it's so blatant I'm honestly amazed
       
 (DIR) Post #AivvPcu2GRdaQ9SNua by kevinriggle@ioc.exchange
       2024-06-14T22:24:53Z
       
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       @Wolven This is separate from how the public conversation grinds down the work of folks like Timnit Gebru, Emily Bender, etc into only the problems most legible to and least threatening to the existing order, and then blames the people who are cheapest to remediate for it (hi), not that those academics are entirely innocent of painting with too broad a brush either
       
 (DIR) Post #AixP7bfJJmbt9Yqw1w by enshroudedshrew@mastodon.social
       2024-06-15T16:24:25Z
       
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       @Wolven well, on the plus side, if AI goes insane, and we have to shut down all electronics, humanity will start talking to each other again, instead of looking at their phones/s