Post AitcJjdC34vC6c8W6i by aires@tiggi.es
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(DIR) Post #Aitc4bzQB3MI3vK1Wi by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:30:26Z
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FFS, GNOME! Just wasted a day of editing video because the built-in screen recorder records screencasts at such a low quality that I ended up with keyframe artefacts / ghosting in my captures.Bloody hell…And is there any way to set the quality? Is there ever!Anyone know a screen recording tool for Linux that saves *high-quality* videos.(Don’t use GNOME’s built-in screen recorder if you’re posting HD+ videos.)https://vimeo.com/957970626#gnome #video #screenRecorder #quality #linux #foss
(DIR) Post #AitcClTKo0LfmwCXlQ by cykonot@mas.to
2024-06-13T20:31:42Z
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@aral obs
(DIR) Post #AitcGKr3i5dkOW06vQ by ChrisWere@toot.wales
2024-06-13T20:31:59Z
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@aral OBS is very full featured, but I've also had a great deal of use from SimpleScreenRecorder. Both in the repos of most distros, I think.
(DIR) Post #AitcJjdC34vC6c8W6i by aires@tiggi.es
2024-06-13T20:32:16Z
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@aral OBS Studio has worked well for me in the past. I mostly use it for webinars now, but it's got good recording capabilities
(DIR) Post #AitcPes6enup58w6nw by fkamiah17@syzito.xyz
2024-06-13T20:32:28Z
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@aral I didn't actually read any further than FFS, GNOME! because I couldn't stop laughing 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
(DIR) Post #AitccSIQiv9tqQLpQm by dogfox@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T20:36:31Z
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@aral It also screwed me over because it doesn't record audio!
(DIR) Post #Aitci5N6rxGuU0Dzg8 by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-13T20:37:29Z
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@aral I haven't used it on Linux, but I love OBS and it is available for Linux.
(DIR) Post #Aitcm8rxo65kUNag7M by dipcoverlocal@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T20:37:43Z
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@aral https://github.com/phw/peek
(DIR) Post #Aitd89LYiGEKL9vZcO by penguingeek@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T20:42:14Z
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@aral Have you tried OBS Studio?
(DIR) Post #AitdoYIcKWyztLlqWu by ambimist@toot.io
2024-06-13T20:49:58Z
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@aral I concur with the OBS and SimpleScreenRecorder suggestions.I've happily used SSR on Debian Testing for years, but for my newest install switched to OBS for recording because IIRC SSR doesn't (or didn't) support Wayland yet.
(DIR) Post #AitdvTQaq9GcoJnm1Q by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:51:11Z
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@cykonot Thanks; donno why I didn’t think of that – I used to use it for my streams a while ago before the Atem. I guess I still associate it with streaming.So I just tried it and the recordings are pristine even with default settings (but I set them a little higher anyway).:)
(DIR) Post #AitdyfQmfZ4GuFPioC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:51:27Z
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@ChrisWere Went with OBS; thanks :)
(DIR) Post #Aite1c4nb9DXN3XFRo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:51:43Z
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@aires Thanks :)
(DIR) Post #Aite59mIkj8olOZa9w by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:52:47Z
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@dogfox Oh, yeah, it got me with that in the past too.
(DIR) Post #Aite8XN3UXj0nuNNxo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:53:06Z
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@Professor_Stevens Thanks, that’s what I’ll be using tomorrow when I redo the whole thing.
(DIR) Post #AiteNigPiPKsERfdHU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:56:15Z
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So, thanks to all the replies, I’ll be redoing a bunch of my work tomorrow using OBS.So, in short: if you want to record screencasts and you care about the quality of your work: DO NOT USE THE BUILT-IN GNOME SCREEN RECORDER. It outputs low quality videos and you cannot change the qualiy.Use OBS instead.*le sigh*G’night!#gnome #screenRecorder #screenRecording #warning #OBS #FOSS #Linux #fedora #education #design #communication #presentations #video #editing #nle #videoEditing
(DIR) Post #AiteRNKz1I4ZBiODtQ by aeischeid@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T20:56:42Z
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@aral kooha what I have used and been pretty happy with for short screen recordings. Has options for quality and frame rate and file type output - Gif webm MP4 etc. OBS is way more full featured, of course
(DIR) Post #AiteZOud32tWOBtCxE by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T20:57:29Z
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@aeischeid Thanks; will also give kooha a shot :)
(DIR) Post #AitedUd1jnjlH9bjma by nus@mstdn.social
2024-06-13T20:58:52Z
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@aral The best thing about open source projects is that I got Linux software like OBS on Windows... and it works more or less perfectly. I'm still afraid to switch to Linux, but it's great to know I've got more than one option, including one out of the box.(There's no way you can re-encode the video to salvage it, is there?)
(DIR) Post #AiteiFNHsXQlPlVpho by fkamiah17@syzito.xyz
2024-06-13T20:59:11Z
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@aral If you make this post appear in my notifications again I'll be sending you a bill for screen wipes 😁
(DIR) Post #AitemeSMZChcMYzF1E by dad@mastodon.eole.education
2024-06-13T21:00:42Z
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@aral I tried Simple Screen Recorder and produce AV1 videoshttps://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/Finding the correct encoding was not simple since there are several AV1 implementation (I use libsvatv1).
(DIR) Post #AitflniOl34ik6e4ps by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-13T21:11:53Z
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@aral Please let us know how that works out for you.
(DIR) Post #Aiti12tCp2IW3b66k4 by nekohayo@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T21:37:02Z
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@aral I am under the impression that the GNOME Shell screen recorder is optimized for variable framerate recording with minimum amount of information encoded, resulting in very small filesizes compared to other screen recorders.It is light on resources (I suspect it is much more efficient for encoding) and great for quick partial recordings to attach to bug reports (small filesizes), which is my primary usecase for it; it does not seem to be meant for files intended for editing in a NLE.
(DIR) Post #AitiM21hE57XSg4l6G by lesighlepurr@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T21:40:43Z
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@aral did you say *le sigh* *winks*
(DIR) Post #AitizOYLPH2ccW7HkG by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T21:47:56Z
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@lesighlepurr 💕
(DIR) Post #Aitj5Ehkw1fDoXIufo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T21:49:02Z
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@Professor_Stevens Did a few tests tonight; it’s perfect.
(DIR) Post #Aitj85WtVL96E6aEoi by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-13T21:49:22Z
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@fkamiah17 💕
(DIR) Post #AitjUuEjeoO9rXyDSq by Professor_Stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-06-13T21:53:38Z
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@aral Awesome! I like it partly because it does seem pretty solid, with all the basics working most reliably. But another reason is that it doesn't try to do everything. It does stick to the basics, which keeps the (re)learning curve reasonably flat.
(DIR) Post #AiuMFkqKCHOAb5Jo6i by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T05:07:56Z
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@Professor_Stevens Yeah, I used to use it early on for streaming, before I got the Atem. Just never thought of it as a recording tool (mostly because of how large an app it is and because GNOME comes with one. Albeit one that’s not fit for purpose.)
(DIR) Post #AiuMwXLYFg8hBuKByC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T05:15:39Z
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@nekohayo Hi Jeff, thanks for taking the time to reply and for providing background but I hope you realise this is exactly why I stopped filing bugs for issues like this on #GNOME projects. It makes perfect sense for a tool made for the GNOME team to be for “quick partial recordings to attach to bug reports” where quality doesn’t matter. For anyone else who uses a screen recorder, quality is what matters. But were I to report it, my issue would be closed with this justification.
(DIR) Post #AiuNWrmhk1xT0GLfwu by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T05:22:11Z
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@nekohayo (Case in point: the exact issue that made me lose a day of work was reported three years ago: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3371 and the reason it’s still an issue is not because of an inability to fix the issue but a reluctance to see the problem as an issue since, given the use case you stated above, the low quality isn’t a bug but a feature as the tool is optimised for a different use case to one that people outside the GNOME dev team have.)
(DIR) Post #AiuayV1fFZFNvlqvRY by vixalientoots@mas.to
2024-06-14T07:52:48Z
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@aral @nekohayo > he reason it’s still an issue is not because of an inability to fix the issue but a reluctance to see the problem as an issueperhaps if you sent a merge request you'd get different results?
(DIR) Post #AiugBbuvRI7Aq5luiW by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T08:51:13Z
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Right, take two…#presenting #recording #slides #screenCapture #linux #Kdenlive #OBS #NLE #screencasts
(DIR) Post #AiugMUcUuVRnOPLECu by bardi@mas.to
2024-06-14T08:53:13Z
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@aral love the keyboard.
(DIR) Post #AiugQowHJ4VjZMeoFM by fkamiah17@syzito.xyz
2024-06-14T08:53:08Z
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@aral Final warning, Aral 😉 😁 😘
(DIR) Post #AiugXAsKf1SjLDqDnU by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T08:53:42Z
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@fkamiah17 Haha, noted ;)
(DIR) Post #Aiugb2UBnIkoTqOKUC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T08:54:09Z
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@bardi Merci, it’s this: https://kbdcraft.store/products/adam
(DIR) Post #AiuhdSMqdc2xHffrY8 by badambassador@social.vivaldi.net
2024-06-14T09:07:13Z
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@aral that wrist rest is lovely
(DIR) Post #AiuivS60UDijblwRv6 by Shamar@qoto.org
2024-06-14T09:21:50Z
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@aralNo vertical screen?Do you rotate a screen while coding or you actually feel better with an horizontal setup?
(DIR) Post #AiujzN39I0rH4R2NNo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T09:33:53Z
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@badambassador Thanks, it’s a Filco :)
(DIR) Post #Aiuk2aNECyA7GKxioC by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T09:34:22Z
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@Shamar Tried vertical, never really worked for me. Found myself straining my neck more often than not.
(DIR) Post #Aiv1wcSTLLBXAIigs4 by nekohayo@mastodon.social
2024-06-14T12:54:58Z
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@aral I think you misunderstand.I'm not a GNOME Shell developer, it was just my educated guess of the probable practical performance+legal tradeoff that occurred a decade ago.Nobody closed nor opposed @YaLTeR's issue 3371 that you linked there, nor other issues AFAIK. It's just impossible without HW encoding for VP9/AV1, IMHO.VP8 is the only usable "in software" Free codec out there. I know because (from experience) you typically can't encode VP9 realtime "in software".
(DIR) Post #Aiv2IlXwEaMziqpwVk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T12:59:01Z
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@CynAq Haha, thanks :) 💕
(DIR) Post #Aiv3x3pxkV5pzI2t60 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T13:16:35Z
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@axnxcamr Yep, love it :)
(DIR) Post #Aiv490Ta4STl2SGyaO by nekohayo@mastodon.social
2024-06-14T13:10:01Z
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@aral As a user, I remember the era between 2015 and 2020 where GNOME Shell's video screen recorder was *literally unusable* because the VP9 encoder could never keep up and would lock up your computer by filling up the RAM within a minute. I'm not making things up; this commit proves it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/commit/c61685e617So, *very much* a technical limitation.I would have appreciated if you had simply asked politely to begin with, & assumed good faith, rather than immediately publicly smearing #GNOME
(DIR) Post #Aiv491L6rRITiTJj1M by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T13:19:42Z
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@nekohayo And this is the other reason why I don’t file bug reports any longer.Me: this feature is not fit for purpose.Someone on GNOME team: actshaully, according to technical reason #3096… why are you publicly smearing GNOME!Ok, pretend I didn’t say anything. And you heard nothing.
(DIR) Post #Aiv4WudlQ5CdtCR2DA by joojmachine@ursal.zone
2024-06-14T13:23:59Z
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@aral @nekohayo So... you just ignore everything they said and not only continue to ignore but mock their explanation of why it isn't currently feasible to do so. Shame.
(DIR) Post #AivBAsZf7WX0n0xPw8 by kravemir@hometech.social
2024-06-14T14:38:20Z
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@aral @nekohayo lots of FOSS seems to me to be technology-centric, rather that user-valie-centric.Software is designed around what (selected) tech can do, rather than making tech to do what user needs.With that focus in mind of programmers, FOSS often contains lots of options and features, but fails to let user do the most value task(s) efficiently (or at all).
(DIR) Post #AivCEGvp7H4f9iVMJc by verdre@mastodon.social
2024-06-14T14:50:13Z
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@aral @nekohayo Turns out doing real time encoding in software is a hard problem to solve, and turns out most of the good codecs out there are patent encumbered and can't be shipped by default.Maybe instead of directing rants at volunteers, you could ask *why* things are as they are instead of expecting every feature to be on-par with commercial OSes.
(DIR) Post #AivI6z21rvh1L1JbJw by aks@scalie.zone
2024-06-14T15:56:12Z
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@aral @nekohayo you can always ask for a refund
(DIR) Post #AivLRFt1DGU9GYSUKm by rspfau@ecoevo.social
2024-06-14T16:33:19Z
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@aral I'm going to go make a wrist rest now!
(DIR) Post #AivLjosRrAvv062mkC by verdre@mastodon.social
2024-06-14T14:55:33Z
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@aral @nekohayo In case you're actually be interested in what's happening rather than just ranting:Quite a few people (including me) have been working their asses off on gnome-shell/gstreamer/pipewire for the last two years in order to use hardware encoders out of the box (no large project dared to use hw encoders on linux by default so far). Also we're using the faster h264 sw encoder instead of vp8 in gnome-shell now when available (it must be manually installed on Fedora because patents).
(DIR) Post #AivLoURXG1ib4bgO3c by nekohayo@mastodon.social
2024-06-13T21:41:19Z
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@aral The fact is that it is using the very ancient VP8 codec (not VP9, not AV1, which are super CPU-intensive), because that's pretty much the only free codec you can do realtime encoding with "in software" on most computers.Related to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5908 there is work going on to make it use hardware-accelerated encoding when available, which I guess would open up VP9 and AV1 as possibilities, but I don't know if a codec change is in the plans.
(DIR) Post #AivPTgGaVEcFTitXcW by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-14T17:18:31Z
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@rspfau 👍