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 (DIR) Post #AipshpEkVpUBun2z5M by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T01:18:28Z
       
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       "The State is a temporary institution of class rule. As classes disappear under socialism, as productive capacity increases, as the regulation of goods and serious increasingly social, the State withers away."https://www.reddit.com/r/Socialism_101/comments/1ddjkki/comment/l87d6bd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
       
 (DIR) Post #Aipu7MYZroyWRr3wwq by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T01:34:17Z
       
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       @theceoofanarchism The state can be used as a tool of oppression. During a transitional state,  however, the state can be used as a means to achieve the social and economic conditions necessary for the eventual creation of a stateless classless society.
       
 (DIR) Post #AipwDjT3nUL59ReB3A by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T01:57:50Z
       
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       @theceoofanarchism Nothing I've stated is against logic. Abolishing the state too early will result in the emergence and takeover of counter-revolution due to the necessary conditions for state abolition, such as complete or near complete support for a stateless society (something that won't happen anytime soon), not having been achieved. It's with a transitional socialist state where those conditions can be met
       
 (DIR) Post #AiqehXQXWa1WTjUUeO by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T10:16:15Z
       
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       @theceoofanarchism I've already explained why immediate abolition of the state won't work, because capitalist and counter-revolutionary sentiments will still exist, and as long as they exist, the class war would not have ended, and as long as the class war exist a state will be required for one class (the proletariat) to repress the other (the bourgeois) because that is the purpose of a state, class repression. None of this will happen anytime soon, which is why a transitional state is needed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AiqgI9pQKIlBxQ9hGy by lawas@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T10:34:04Z
       
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       @Radical_EgoCom @theceoofanarchism I think you nailed it there. The Marxist conception of the state is that it’s a tool of class domination. The organization of the armed proletariat exercising a monopoly on violence would be acting as a “state”, but even Marx and Engels said the dictatorship of the proletariat wouldn’t be a state in the proper sense of the word. And crucially, they stress the bourgeois state must be destroyed. We can’t simply take hold of the state as is.
       
 (DIR) Post #AirIzjGPQ0XhjGJ33o by M_el_viejo@lile.cl
       2024-06-12T14:44:13Z
       
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       @lawas @Radical_EgoCom @theceoofanarchism Please think whit  the now conditions (no s XiX)what proletariat?  the most are only good consumers >don't think into the box<and then maybe,  perhaps, could imagine more than one transicitional  solutions to produce/induce a change toward a Human society(forgive my interruption)
       
 (DIR) Post #AirIzkW2lMdvc2d34K by lawas@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T17:33:33Z
       
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       @M_el_viejo @Radical_EgoCom @theceoofanarchism I’m sure there are other ways to organize, but Marxism-Leninism has proven to be one of the only ideologies to actually overthrow the rule of capital for any significant amount of time. If we want to win, we need to raise the class-consciousness of the proletariat. There’s no victory without mass support and education. They’re not ready now, but they can be if a real vanguard party leads the way.
       
 (DIR) Post #AirIzl6uYI8LSNsUXA by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T17:47:39Z
       
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       @lawas @M_el_viejo @theceoofanarchism Marxism-Leninism has been the only ideology capable of overthrowing capitalism, but I think Luxemburgism would be more effective at overthrowing capitalism and establishing socialism without succumbing to the bureaucratic control that the Soviet Union fell into.
       
 (DIR) Post #AirKnAbCftNoeUAiBM by lawas@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T18:07:51Z
       
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       @Radical_EgoCom @M_el_viejo @theceoofanarchism Any reading you’d recommend on Luxemburg’s tendency? I’ve read Reform or Revolution, a brilliant work, but haven’t really done a deep dive on her stance.
       
 (DIR) Post #AirLIgrkkzebhewWGG by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T18:13:35Z
       
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       @lawas @M_el_viejo @theceoofanarchism "The Accumulation of Capital (1913)" is one of her best books that I recommend reading. Here's where you can read all of her writings: https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/
       
 (DIR) Post #AirMKcHere7Y1cXfLE by lawas@mastodon.social
       2024-06-12T18:24:56Z
       
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       @Radical_EgoCom @M_el_viejo @theceoofanarchism I’ll add it to the list! More theory is always good. Thanks comrade! And just as an aside, I’m really thankful for the Marxists Internet Archive, it’s such an incredible resource.