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(DIR) Post #AikRSLqGSx0jRiMwwS by aral@mastodon.ar.al
2024-06-09T10:19:07Z
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The very fact we have to say “vote against fascism” is a damning indictment of the failure of our democratic institutions and the rule of law. You shouldn’t be able to vote FOR fascism. Democracies that lack constitutional safeguards against fascism will, eventually, stop being democracies. When? At the last election. The one that elected the fascists. Democracy cannot tolerate fascism. Tolerance cannot tolerate intolerance. I’m afraid this is a lesson we will learn the hard way. Again.
(DIR) Post #AikSnx3xNIbwv5dZMe by schrotthaufen@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T10:34:14Z
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@aral If I had a nickel for every time I had to explain the tolerance paradox, I’d have a lot of nickels.
(DIR) Post #AikTBAfGyAUNlXABoO by jimmygnarly@mastodon.online
2024-06-09T10:38:21Z
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@aral Fash, accelerationist, ecocides . . . FUTURE: (? why yes already here ~ https://www.simonandschuster.net/books/Denial/Jon-Raymond/9781982181840 I live it" https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aAR1XRpyAoo apart from funding fash. I abated the strangle hold on my power coupons ha! ~ 80-90% less costs. . . unless you wanna talk insurance rip offs~ pffft wow
(DIR) Post #AikVJDl1YQf5aBosuu by media_dept@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T11:01:44Z
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@aral as far as ive been able to tell, mass media is most responsible for a failing democracy by disseminating low-fact information, scare mongering and countless subtle & unsubtle right wing bias. Vaguely 'saving democracy' isn't possible, its saved specifically by taming a fascist media owned by psychopathic oligarchs.
(DIR) Post #AikVJi6giRofi4Bbqi by yatil@yatil.social
2024-06-09T11:01:37Z
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@aral I agree. The hesitation from politics to ban clearly extremist parties pains me a lot. And we have been there in Germany. We have the safeguards, but they have to be implemented and used.
(DIR) Post #AikVNilMDdhmu17afg by ncrav@mas.to
2024-06-09T11:03:05Z
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@aral it's also pernicious even within a supposed democracy: I would encourage anyone to look at who gets to be a candidate and check their background of family and political ties going back a few decades at least. Especially in countries where third parties have basically zero chance of entering the political theatre. More often than not what is seen as a democracy is an oligarchy switching power between a few groups and using the same extreme discourse as true fascists to polarise people.
(DIR) Post #AikVgw66rgyblGzTs0 by glennhiggins@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T11:06:31Z
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@aral "You shouldn’t be able to vote FOR fascism." Yes, unfortunately, you should.This is a fundamental flaw in democracies, and is inherent in ALL democracies. The freedom to vote means the freedom to vote in a destructive fashion. The solution is outside the voting process in education. Democracies REQUIRE an educated, informed citizenry.
(DIR) Post #AikezvjLLz3BiDTR3o by IcyGrillz@noauthority.social
2024-06-09T12:51:19Z
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@aral You are a fucking moron
(DIR) Post #Aikf9luQiuN09FLu1w by J@cawfee.club
2024-06-09T12:53:06.884945Z
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@aral Literally “You’re only allowed to democratically vote for the option I choose.“Going to kill myself.
(DIR) Post #AikfUHJXfafBLBsP8C by Millhouse@glasgow.social
2024-06-09T12:55:51Z
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@aral if it's 'again,' it wasn't learned.
(DIR) Post #AikfbQCR25CWvQxU3c by DetersHenning@eupolicy.social
2024-06-09T12:57:33Z
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@aral in two-party systems, the last democratic election is one election earlier. It's the one before one of the parties became antidemocratic and thereby made it impossible to chose between political alternatives.
(DIR) Post #AikfmHIkSL8UVu5Wpk by stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza
2024-06-09T12:59:27Z
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@aral Our mainstream media has long been a safeguard against government corruption, but is corrupted itself through corporate ownership right when we need them.
(DIR) Post #AikhgJgsrMfa5vf8Rk by lin11c@toad.social
2024-06-09T13:20:52Z
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@aral @Gustodon 💯🙏
(DIR) Post #Aikhk7lf8AieH5iHey by clintruin@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T13:21:28Z
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@aral Is it possible there is something larger at work here?🤔 Does this not strike you as all rather coordinated?🙈 🙉 🙊 ❝...These billionaires WILL fucking kill you to keep doing capitalism on a boiling planet. They're installing fascism so you don't have a choice, they're controlling police states because they mean to presever thier world order, with violence--that's actually why security forces exist, everywhere..."-- AnarchoNinaWriteshttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006
(DIR) Post #Aiki4j28HtfHdyEy7k by MisuseCase@twit.social
2024-06-09T13:25:18Z
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@aral Guess what Germany has constitutional safeguards against fascism, and they’re still having a problem with fascists (the AfD).I know some folks love to say that when the U.S. has certain problems it’s because the U.S. is uniquely fundamentally flawed and bad. But this isn’t one of those problems.
(DIR) Post #AikidHN77nBdzKWyDA by peteriskrisjanis@toot.lv
2024-06-09T13:31:28Z
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@aral yes, but that is real world we live in
(DIR) Post #AikliVNOmc2gjVqbgG by NovaCora@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T14:06:06Z
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@aral This is what I've been trying to say to the Liberals that tell me to vote for the fascist win, but it's not posible to vote out fascism. There's need to be more concentrated and direct action of conquenses on fascism.
(DIR) Post #AikmoQnCq1mwCzJB2W by mousefriend@this.mouse.rocks
2024-06-09T14:17:41Z
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@aral Honestly this is why we dislike the term democracy at this point.A more accurate term here would be electoralism.If a population (demos) votes in a fascist government (cracy) is that not, by definition, still democracy? It's a morally bad democracy, but it is democracy.The issue is with weak electoralism and Liberalism (big L, not attached to a single political party in any one government) that, as you point out, allows for fascists to gain power.
(DIR) Post #AikrJi3X6S7OXl7Cue by RuiSeabra@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T15:08:48Z
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@aralYou're wrong on many levels. 1. You do not know enough about what Karl Popper actually said and wrote, the meme that circulates is an insult to what he wrote2. Only democracies without checks and balances can succumb like that, work on them to have those or they're fake democracies3. The examples of past wouldn't be on what we recognize as democracy, today@ammdias
(DIR) Post #AiksRzO4eKP0ZBEdKi by fonecokid@c.im
2024-06-09T15:21:30Z
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@aral :bd94:
(DIR) Post #Aikv40FC70rY8VKsaW by Craftycat@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T15:50:51Z
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@aral I've always questioned why fascists should have the right to use democracy to dismantle democracy. Still waiting for a response that doesn't translate to "we need to be nice to fascists, otherwise they won't like us".
(DIR) Post #AikwljVpmU2UwKXE5Q by eldubuu@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T16:09:53Z
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@aral Attempts to destroy democracy through the mechanisms of democracy are illegal, invalid and must be vigorously prosecuted.No democracy can ever be a suicide pact.
(DIR) Post #AikxFMbhVVFGaUPLlo by olimould@mas.to
2024-06-09T16:15:14Z
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@aral as I've said many times before, if you're trying to vote out fascism, you're already way too late
(DIR) Post #AikxaB4hZwwGtztj4S by Dianora@ottawa.place
2024-06-09T16:18:58Z
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@aral Popper was right. (Although there are many others who have said similar)
(DIR) Post #AikxrH3caZuMNbXpYG by PedestrianError@towns.gay
2024-06-09T16:22:03Z
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@aral How can you really vote against fascism when the only “non-fascist” party supports genocidal overseas wars, astronomical spending on militarized police and prisons which are used to criminalize poverty and crush dissent, and subsidies to all the most environmentally and socially destructive industries and is funded by many of the same corporate oligarchs as the openly fascist party? All we can do is kick the can down the road and try to maintain some limits on the fascism.
(DIR) Post #Ail0NuxNylcXIhJzCC by grantschellenberg@social.vivaldi.net
2024-06-09T16:50:17Z
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@aral 1932 German federal election
(DIR) Post #AilFccltNAssYWPr72 by Bredroll@mas.to
2024-06-09T19:41:03Z
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@aral the thing is, the fascists say they aren't fascist. They do stuff that is racist or corrupt but control enough popular media to make it look like they were giving away free kittens
(DIR) Post #Aim7gOrUQSQY6BHe64 by AHU4y5aWnraB3XHz0a.mxtthxw@mxtthxw.art
2024-06-10T05:46:53Z
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@aral but isn’t it night to have opt in facism…
(DIR) Post #Aj338SOXAM9r0Vuggy by poemproducer@systerserver.town
2024-06-18T09:45:39Z
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@aral I agree but this is where we at
(DIR) Post #Al9gXT4vu3ZWn400I4 by duncan_bayne@emacs.ch
2024-08-20T10:20:01Z
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@aral We haven't learned it from Palestine electing Hamas, yet. That was their last election, too.