Post AilAy61zHXQbc5Mc5I by ruff@social.librem.one
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(DIR) Post #AilAy3W0dSezoKO2xk by mntmn@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T09:26:06Z
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if you can, please vote in the EU elections today—let's stop fascism in europe.
(DIR) Post #AilAy4mLwBKNjJ2c4m by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T10:44:21Z
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@mntmn voted, but I don't think EU elections have much of an impact. The EP mostly just rubber-stamps whatever the commission comes up with
(DIR) Post #AilAy61zHXQbc5Mc5I by ruff@social.librem.one
2024-06-09T13:11:56Z
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@wolf480pl @mntmn which just proves they are both working as synchronized efficient body. Now imagine EP starts sabotaging all EC decisions, making it totally dysfunctional apparatus.
(DIR) Post #AilAy71faClghODsEC by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T13:16:44Z
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@ruff @mntmn What I meant is EP is unable to resist any stupid stuff EC tries to pass (and EC reliably comes up with stupid stuff, see chat control, link tax, etc).Now, EP resisting good stuff EC is trying to pass would indeed be a threat, one that could lead to destruction of the EU.I don't know what this looks like in other countries, but in Poland, the parties that would seriously want to destroy and/or leave EU (as opposed to only pretending to want that) are hovering around 10%.
(DIR) Post #AilAy837mHWfsBuY8O by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T13:20:50Z
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@ruff @mntmn Which means in Poland, my vote for MEPs has:- little impact on whether we will have EU in the future (those parties aren't strong here anyway)- no impact on what form of EU we will have in the future (tighter vs looser integration, mutliple levels of integration for different subsets of countries, etc)- no impact on bullshit like chat controlHeck, my vote in national elections has more impact on that than in the EP elections.
(DIR) Post #AilAy8nYzcfmCDddWC by Veza85UE@eupolicy.social
2024-06-09T16:00:23Z
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@wolf480pl @ruff @mntmn It does because in your national elections you elect the other, more powerful chamber of the European Parliament, the EU "Senate". EU laws are not made this way: EU Commission proposes --> EP rubberstamps. You're forgetting the 2 most powerful institutions in the EU. ;)#WTFistheCouncil
(DIR) Post #AilAy9klRW1n9pKunI by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T18:38:22Z
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@Veza85UE @ruff @mntmn I'm aware of the Council, and this is precisely why I said that the national elections matter more.And I think the Council is mostly good at finding compromises and blocking bills that would disproportionately disadvantage particular member states.Without the Council, the EU would be a shitshow.That being said, the EP appears useless, and the EC appears opaque and corrupt.
(DIR) Post #AilAyAJrL26IufkwUq by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T18:39:11Z
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@Veza85UE @ruff @mntmn I'd like to either be proven wrong about EC being corrupt and EP being useless, or see reforms towards fixing those issues.
(DIR) Post #AilAyB2WexpV9Cec7M by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2024-06-09T18:49:28.709747Z
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@wolf480pl @Veza85UE @ruff @mntmn My dad once said that the EU is a profoundly undemocratic organisation but it is undemocratic in the way he likes. This was in the run up to the Brexit vote.
(DIR) Post #AilHvJWBNe3CFk6jOi by Veza85UE@eupolicy.social
2024-06-09T18:46:49Z
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@wolf480pl @ruff @mntmn The burden of proof on EC corruption is on you, that's how it works. And I have plenty of reform ideas, you just probably wouldn't like most of them.(The absolutely ridiculous practice of 1 Commissioner per country so the Council can dump its deadweight or its opposition in the EC and treat it like an elephant cemetery comes to mind...)
(DIR) Post #AilHvKSfsAq3B9TRZI by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T18:47:58Z
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@Veza85UE @ruff @mntmn are you by chance a federalist?
(DIR) Post #AilHvLImkQWRmlr3nE by Veza85UE@eupolicy.social
2024-06-09T18:51:25Z
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@wolf480pl @ruff @mntmn Not in the sense most of them seem to understand it, no. No offence to them, but most of the ones I've seen discourse in endless conference mode don't seem capable of running a frites stand in the real world. (Maybe there are other types, idk). I'm an A-functional-EU-for-our-survival-in-the-21st-centruryist.
(DIR) Post #AilHvLvmPRiLji6CZc by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T18:58:23Z
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@Veza85UE hmm okas for EC corruption - what I mean is that every few years we hear about some bill like link tax or chat control that EC is pushing hard despite it benefiting only some industry group at the expense of everyone else, and I don't understand why they do it. The only explanation that comes to my mind is that said industry group influenced them in some way.So what I'd like to know is: how did chat control happen?
(DIR) Post #AilHvMhzWCHM9Eehii by ignaloidas@not.acu.lt
2024-06-09T20:07:27.033Z
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@wolf480pl@mstdn.io @Veza85UE@eupolicy.social stuff like this really doesn't help the image either https://edri.org/our-work/did-the-eu-commission-hide-a-study/
(DIR) Post #AilHvOA27QIueUmc4G by wolf480pl@mstdn.io
2024-06-09T18:58:57Z
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@Veza85UE (and I'm not expecting you specifically to know the answer, but I'd like to eventually find someone who knows the answer)