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(DIR) Post #AiifW9NtjcQ10gt2aO by stux@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T13:47:28Z
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Just a little reminder that here in Europe, we play the same exact video games as youth from the United StatesWe do not have (daily) school shootings howeverInstead of blaming video games, start looking at the super easy to get weapons on each corner of street problemGames are not the problem, weapons are 🇺🇸
(DIR) Post #AiifkmQPNcLm982LvE by thematic@mastodon.green
2024-06-08T13:50:05Z
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@stux Original Fallout begs to differ 😁 but yes, you are right.
(DIR) Post #Aiifm6vmcmAc2BLZD6 by Meowie_Gamer@fosstodon.org
2024-06-08T13:50:07Z
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@stux wait school shootings are daily here? oh no.
(DIR) Post #AiifpoO3VpqxgBKsZU by Nickiquote@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T13:50:17Z
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@stux We also have the other thing they blame, individual mental health problems.
(DIR) Post #AiifrfZ1HtxEtULl7w by stux@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T13:51:23Z
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And ofc guns alone are not the "only problem", I am awareBut it is one of the major ones and people love to divert attention from this to other mattersBut instead of using matters like the LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE they rather talk about their "rights"Other people have the right not to die, think about that instead 😉
(DIR) Post #AiiftdGSo7bMLGbf8q by stux@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T13:51:50Z
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@Nickiquote Jup! **see my follow up post 😉
(DIR) Post #AiigRAZ812pxBCKQN6 by Meowie_Gamer@fosstodon.org
2024-06-08T13:57:43Z
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@stux Maybe I should move to a different country when i get the chance :(
(DIR) Post #AiigSynWjsu3GHvVMe by zoiundeinhorn@ohai.social
2024-06-08T13:58:03Z
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@stux Not only that, we have European countries with almost as many weapons per person, like Switzerland, without as many shootings. It’s also social justice, a (mostly) functioning health care and health insurance system. If I get hit by a car tomorrow I can go to the hospital without having to worry about drowning in debt afterwards. If I lose my job, there will be a social security system that is far from perfect but it exists.
(DIR) Post #Aiij61SSyveCiMovWC by RYK@c.im
2024-06-08T14:27:35Z
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@stux unfortunately our constitution has a 2nd amendment which was written before there were automatic weapons and the like and the people in USA are and have been fed a ‘Cowboy’ mentality by the Gun Industry for the sole purpose of greed. The lives of all who have been harmed/killed isn’t even a second thought to those in power.
(DIR) Post #AiilBisjA3TWkLwwK0 by pela0ykza@mastodon.la
2024-06-08T14:51:04Z
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@stux Real problem is the Second Amendment, they have a constitutional right to have guns...guns are a part of their culture...a very, very complicated business...
(DIR) Post #AiilLcQxzM65e3gRIO by jpaskaruk@growers.social
2024-06-08T14:52:50Z
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@stux I honestly had not seen this take yet, and as you run it through the logic gates, it's remarkable how stupid they really seem to believe kids are.
(DIR) Post #AiilsVbmO3Hi23QMjY by UnderScore1981@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T14:58:36Z
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@stux We americans say this all the time, however, they (the govt.) do not listen and then take money from corporations. We would love to change things. But our government is so corrupt, where do you begin? Voting barely does anything but cause more divisiveness, especially in a 2 party system. We feel like we are drowning in a sea of issues that should not be issues.
(DIR) Post #AiimHm02a7BI6moqxs by koteisaev@mastodon.online
2024-06-08T15:03:07Z
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@stux I always thought this is symptom of cultural and support net issue - if people don't have a place where they can safely talk about their problems, get support, especially when family malfunction and deep social isolation happens, shooting is more likely.To my knowledge, in EU support nets and these places and services where people go in case of any problems are developed much better than in US,and to my knowledge, in US you more likely to be ashamed for mere fact of having problems...
(DIR) Post #AiinCSXBcreUFBLwUi by peterdrake@qoto.org
2024-06-08T15:13:24Z
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@stux I was going to say that we have daily MASS shootings, but SCHOOL shootings are rarer. Sadly, it looks like school shootings are between weekly and daily, depending on how you count.https://usafacts.org/articles/the-latest-government-data-on-school-shootings/https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.htmlhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/1463594/number-of-k-12-school-shootings-us/
(DIR) Post #AiinLcvcLmgr5R9TQu by Nonya_Bidniss@mas.to
2024-06-08T15:15:07Z
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@stux And often people in the U.S. don't recall there was a time not that long ago that the U.S. Supreme Court held the opinion that despite the existence of the 2nd Amendment, Americans did not have the right to own assault weapons. The gun corporate lobby (which is thoroughly merged with the theocratic christian lobby) spent $billions to corrupt the legislatures and the courts, and they fully succeeded in creating the powerful death cult we have today.
(DIR) Post #AiinQlyU8zWoahwlgu by MagicLike@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T15:16:10Z
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@stux small addition: it is not all about the easy access, but the relation to and the culture regarding fire weapons. In Switzerland the amount of guns per citizen is way higher than the us, but there are almost not incidents. Even kids shoot with real weapons, but always in a safe manner and they are taught how to safely use a gun. Also everyone is allowed to keep their rifle from their military service, but it is modified first to remove the auto fire.https://super8.absturztau.be/watch?v=EkuMLId8SqE
(DIR) Post #AiinVhNsde4FnnAr7Q by SummerDay@masto.nu
2024-06-08T15:16:44Z
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@stux Yes!!!
(DIR) Post #AiinXwThUUJZC5xxzM by andy@tux.social
2024-06-08T15:17:06Z
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@stux We have to ban Cola: Every shooter used to drink Cola!
(DIR) Post #Aiine09qipqeLPZQFU by Meat_Mom@poa.st
2024-06-08T15:16:00.531123Z
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@stux I live in the most gun-loving state in the country and we have no school shootings so clearly there's no correlation. The problem is psychological destruction of trannies by government-paid psychologists.
(DIR) Post #AiinhcBLo0978vzmgi by JonnyT@mastodon.me.uk
2024-06-08T15:19:08Z
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@stux @lisamelton It isn't just about availability. It isn't about mental health problems. It's also about a culture that positively promotes having guns *and shooting them at people* as an actively great thing to do:Have a burglar? Be the good guy and kill them.Someone trespassing on your land? Be the good guy and kill them. Someone not looking at you in the right way? Be the good guy and kill them. Someone the wrong skin colour? Be the good guy and kill them.
(DIR) Post #AiinunD27NwH6k4AEq by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2024-06-08T15:21:45.060913Z
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@stux counterpoint: I own more guns than game systems and I’ve shot up zero schools
(DIR) Post #Aiinuxg7C78xZpkWxM by tleekeene@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T15:21:25Z
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@stux Yes
(DIR) Post #AiinyaBOUZGDri6foG by Paultron@poa.st
2024-06-08T15:22:30.925040Z
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@stux the shootings that end up on TV are all coordinated by the government, not random peopleThere was a scandal a while back where a guy was found out in the desert training a camp of school shooters by the local sheriff. The feds had to get involved to sweep it under the rug since he was p well politically connected. The Mandalay bay shooting happened soon after and pushed it out of the news (no motive or explanation into how it occurred for that one)
(DIR) Post #AiioChr8l9YziZMrrM by TimWardCam@c.im
2024-06-08T15:24:41Z
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@stux "Other people have the right not to die"Not in the USA, Americans tell me. Apparently the "right to life" is only in the Declaration of Independence, which is less holy that the Constitution and so doesn't really count.
(DIR) Post #AiioUFbqWDnfKCa14a by nerd7473@social.librem.one
2024-06-08T15:27:20Z
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@stux education on firearms is sorely lacking. Any weapon must be understood and handled properly so that anyone can defend ones self.
(DIR) Post #Aiiojw350r87I8nUTA by Oggie@woof.group
2024-06-08T15:30:39Z
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@stux The weirdest part about this is 'Well it can't solve it all, so we shoudlnt' do anything'.We can't stop all car accidents, so we should stop banning drunk driving. I mean some drunks get home without killing anyone!It's so strange.
(DIR) Post #AiiqmZ8Wr7Pp0YjCSG by cosvak@mastodon.world
2024-06-08T15:53:30Z
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@stux preaching to the choir. We've known this for over 20 years, but our politician and fascist cultist who actually cause issues and blame everyone else, are to lazy to come up with new excuses. Amerika
(DIR) Post #AiirMaXZ77FfmqcDzs by Fedihacker@masto.es
2024-06-08T16:00:02Z
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They could learn from Canada.@stux
(DIR) Post #AiisLnWNSwDxi8FMWW by mrblissett@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T16:11:17Z
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@stuxI'll bet you have more stabbings per capita.@ritawho
(DIR) Post #AiisU2gIz6nD2tp0RU by failedLyndonLaRouchite@mas.to
2024-06-08T16:12:46Z
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@stux I may be wrong, but I think most of Europe, just like the US, saw a large increase in crime in teh1 970s, and then a decrease in the 1990ssince the data are remarkably similar, the data mean that many of hte commonly offered explanations for the increase and decrease are probably wrong
(DIR) Post #AiivCDpN6WaOGVFyhk by FallsMom@mastodon.coffee
2024-06-08T16:43:07Z
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@stux It's fueled by the attitude of resentment mostly of white men who feel they've lost their "privilege" to be first in line for better jobs, better houses, and whatever women they want. And Convicted Felon reps them.
(DIR) Post #AiivrrlPWlb3zvGH0C by JoMama87@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T16:50:29Z
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@stux
(DIR) Post #AiixkLEqG0jN0HZEu0 by stupidjim@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T17:11:35Z
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@stux In europe they are just more 'ok ' with violance. Teens filming someone being beaten up instead of helping, just to get some 'likes'.People getting more 'ok' with war, innocent people being killed, because well they see it on netflix and in their games everyday. Thank about that before you get your daily doses of slaugtering people for 'fun'.
(DIR) Post #AiiyrxkdZ8eiQjdZfk by nadav@babka.social
2024-06-08T17:24:02Z
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@stux You reminded me of this thing:
(DIR) Post #Aiiz9cbytvMU4z0chk by icg937@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T17:27:27Z
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@stux And I wonder, if US people love guns so much... why do they have Police Stations? Just to say they're a civilized country?
(DIR) Post #Aij8qisCOaKNXTDo4u by sanzky@masto.es
2024-06-08T19:09:18Z
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@nerd7473 @stux the only proper way to handle a firearm is destroying it.
(DIR) Post #Aij8qjYjqQM5fP7mNs by nerd7473@social.librem.one
2024-06-08T19:14:29Z
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@sanzky @stux What a hateful and misguided response.
(DIR) Post #Aij8qkKEzoLw2jLiQS by stux@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T19:15:59Z
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@nerd7473 @sanzky I opt for education in general so people won't have to carry weapon to defend themselves from othersIt should be illegal to carry like here, plain and simple :cat_hug_triangle:
(DIR) Post #AijAdAoPvEGS2o7TvM by chriswho@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T19:36:03Z
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@stux Canada too, and we're right next door!
(DIR) Post #AijBTNPsIz0AC4X5Zw by raf@babka.social
2024-06-08T19:45:23Z
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@stux Oh lots of US politicians talk about the lack of mental health care. And then reiterate their commitment to fund none of it
(DIR) Post #AijDxl0JN44HwgBpey by xs4me2@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T20:13:21Z
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@stux It’s the guns…
(DIR) Post #AijFrg7snHC0zIxbyy by cygnusx11@fosstodon.org
2024-06-08T20:34:47Z
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@stux Sadly, it's the corporate gun manufacturers, the NRA, the far right 2nd amendment preachers, etc that are spewing the vitriol about video games and what not. The US needs to start holding corporations, fundamentalists and capitalists accountable or this will never end.
(DIR) Post #AijHrXoxs7Nj8dAwkK by Sturmflut@mastodon.social
2024-06-08T20:57:06Z
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@stux Austria (no background checks, no mandatory training, no medical certificate, 30 guns for every 100 inhabitants) and Finland (legal shooting age 15, >32 guns per 100 inhabitants) also have the "super easy to get weapons on each corner of street problem".So not even weapons are the actual problem.
(DIR) Post #AijLmjzbaeydFy7LgO by PamelaBarroway@mstdn.social
2024-06-08T21:41:03Z
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@stux Trust me, we are trying. But it is really difficult with so many gun-fetishizing wackadoos in office.
(DIR) Post #AijWb18h73goSMytuK by Mallulady@mastodon.world
2024-06-08T23:41:59Z
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@stux Yes.
(DIR) Post #AijWmJNRe3PsCpGZ5E by Homoevolutis1@lonestar.chat
2024-06-08T23:44:10Z
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@stux They are stupidheads!
(DIR) Post #AijbqoOikjOxLMpPiC by nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T00:40:58Z
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@stux One thing that always astounds me whenever this stuff comes up is how people act like decreasing guns (not even taking them away, just decreasing them) is a wild, untested crazy idea. Meanwhile almost every other country in the world did this decades ago or more and enjoys fewer murders and mass shootings.
(DIR) Post #Aijd8MzRUbHdVTwNgO by mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io
2024-06-09T00:55:13Z
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@stux Only correction, but an important one.US school shooters don't get their guns "on the street."Guns are extremely expensive. US school shooters are usually rich, white, men and boys (~85%) and use guns legally owned by their families.I don't think people realize how expensive guns are, and how much US gun ownership is concentrated in rich, white, men.As you look at this picture, realize that each AR 15 costs about $1000.00.
(DIR) Post #Aijg0z50I9i1BZiBo8 by Sablebadger@dice.camp
2024-06-09T01:27:32Z
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@stux here in the US we blame anything but guns for the gun problem. It's just how we do.We will literally blame it on sun spots and fluoride in the water before we'll blame guns.It would be hilarious if it weren't so goddamn deadly.
(DIR) Post #AijpqA4C6LjxcKoLhI by michael_w_busch@mastodon.online
2024-06-09T03:18:00Z
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@stux Following from @mekkaokereke 's replies:People with most mental disorders are less likely to harm others; but are more likely to be victims of gun violence - either suicide or homicide."lack of mental health care" is used here in the US as a pretext by people who do not want to talk about actual effective gun control.Ableism as well as racism and classism.Anything to avoid actually addressing the problem.
(DIR) Post #AijtD0I2usINoosEvA by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2024-06-09T03:55:23Z
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@stux Shoot, I don't know what street corners you go to, but you have to spend big money and fill out a whole stack of gova'ment paperwork where I come from, and then if they feel like it, they'll let you have it at some point probably
(DIR) Post #AikJhcQWHro9aq62LI by apgarcia@fosstodon.org
2024-06-09T08:52:23Z
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@stux Actually the gun nuts like to say it's a mental health issue, until the time comes for funding. Then of course there is no money for it.
(DIR) Post #Aikpdh28Pm7JFtrWt6 by lydialurch@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T14:50:11Z
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@stux Everyone actually knows this but the games are a smokescreen set up by the politicians who are paid by the gun industry and the NRA to keep selling more guns and ammo, as well as the white supremacists who want to shoot humans.
(DIR) Post #Ail3329OL0s1OOfcf2 by fstateaudio@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-06-09T17:19:08Z
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@stux I think part of the problem is also that we're taught to hate & fear each other. Not just through the obvious political red vs blue BS, but also more generally. Like just a general vibe of "everyone else is out to get you."
(DIR) Post #Ail9xhz4aWnb4wFfWq by TessRants@mastodon.social
2024-06-09T18:38:10Z
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@stux And, we already have plenty of studies, beginning in the 1990s, that prove violent video games decrease violent actions across a population.