Post AihxlGeuZi7pvqF7jM by noipv6@hachyderm.io
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(DIR) Post #AihxlDSkSTc61FWrr6 by bluknight@mastodon.dotorg.org
2024-05-26T17:47:33Z
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Sitting at a friend's house in Seattle. They're a relatively new customer to CenturyLink out here (install date about a year ago). Yet apparently C-link (pronouced Clunk) didn't set up V6 on the router by default. Who does that in late 2022, for crying out loud?I'm going to have to fix this while I'm here. @noipv6, I'm blaming you for this state of affairs! :P
(DIR) Post #AihxlEWgVKM9JkNWd6 by cy@fedicy.us.to
2024-05-28T16:24:44Z
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Ziply (aka Frontier) sure keeps stringing me along without IPv6, but I have a 14 year old company provided (they made us pay for it) router. That's no excuse, since IPv6 was fully functional and available even in 2010, but it's definitely not 2024.Honestly afraid to touch anything about our shitty Internet, because I just can't deal with pushy salespeople, and monopoly ISPs being expected to provide decent service give you the shittiest, pushiest salespeople. Wish the city provided Internet would make it up here.CC: @noipv6@hachyderm.io
(DIR) Post #AihxlFeAKzw0nEt0vg by rishi556@hachyderm.io
2024-05-28T17:10:00Z
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@noipv6 @bluknight @cy From what I read, Ziply is working on ipv6 and wants to do it right so taking their time. Better to not have to pull a Verizon and remove the IPv6 deployment later due to issues.
(DIR) Post #AihxlGEg9F8qcTyAqG by cy@fedicy.us.to
2024-05-28T22:51:12Z
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IPv6 was finished in 1998. They've had at least 26 years to "get it right." It has been around longer than Ziply as a company has existed. Any ISP that doesn't support it by now is just too busy extracting rent on their IPv4 grift to ever support IPv6. Since the f-ing neoliberals "created a market" for addresses, companies will fight you tooth and nail trying to cheat us out of more money by artificially restricting the supply.Maybe I'm just pessimistic, I dunno. But IP addresses should be government assigned, and permanent, and no one should be allowed to make a dime off of "granting" "leases" on them.CC: @noipv6@hachyderm.io @bluknight@dotorg.org
(DIR) Post #AihxlGeuZi7pvqF7jM by noipv6@hachyderm.io
2024-05-29T16:14:38Z
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@cy @bluknight “finished in 1998” tells me you don’t know shit about actual deployment*, & should probably sit this discussion out & let the grown-ups do their work* or standards development, for that matter, given how many highly relevant rfc’s came out in the 2000’s & 2010’s
(DIR) Post #AihxlH5qxXfzHOqdiy by kramse@social.kramse.org
2024-06-08T05:20:10Z
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@noipv6 @cy @bluknight it was fully functional in 1998, and yes updated since Still having ISPs in 2020ies saying they are not IPv6 ready is on them, 100%
(DIR) Post #AiieKmVkKylCviZZlA by noipv6@hachyderm.io
2024-06-08T05:38:31Z
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@kramse @cy @bluknight what does “fully functional” mean to you? 🤔because “barely available from any isp’s” doesn’t feel very functional 😑
(DIR) Post #AiieKncsBy3UO6umVU by kramse@social.kramse.org
2024-06-08T06:40:07Z
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@noipv6 @cy @bluknight Fully functional, as in running code and packets flowing. Protocols defined, first round of protocols published around 1995, RFC1883 etcImplemented in various operating systems, KAME IPv6 in BSD like Freebase since 4.0. So if a technology affects your core business and you as an ISP haven't found time to investigate, plan, do a proof of concept, I consider it a bad ISPEtc
(DIR) Post #AiieKoD21WykCFpero by noipv6@hachyderm.io
2024-06-08T06:55:27Z
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@kramse @cy @bluknight what running code was there for ipv6 in windows in 1998?what was there in mac os?bsd, linux, greatwhat was their market share in 1998?what network operating systems supported it in 1998?that’s…not “fully functional”. 😑2011? not gunna dispute that year - it was pretty functional then.
(DIR) Post #AiieKofkIlwndJGaci by kramse@social.kramse.org
2024-06-08T07:21:19Z
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@noipv6 @cy @bluknight I explained what I consider fully functional IPv6 WAS running in the late 1990sI don't need to use my whole Saturday arguing with you, take care and have a great weekend
(DIR) Post #AiieKpNLgepFoXfPaS by kramse@social.kramse.org
2024-06-08T06:47:38Z
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@noipv6 @cy @bluknight over the years ISPs around the world has implemented IPv6, starting mostly in APNIC Asia, and both Europe and US was dragging their feet.Especially internet exchange points have offered it for decades by now. Which as you are aware is where tada.wav ISPs connectWikipedia has a nice article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment"By 2011, all major operating systems in use on personal computers and server systems had production-quality IPv6 implementations."
(DIR) Post #AiuN42ig0RvqWHij4a by noipv6@hachyderm.io
2024-06-13T20:53:55Z
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@kramse @cy @bluknight good thing i forgot about this until thursday 😃“ipv6 was running in the late 1990s” is a minimally technically accurate but completely fucking worthless statementeven by the time ppl started publishing stats in 2008-2011, ipv6 adoption was < 0.3% of the internetif you think the average organisation could fully adopt ipv6 in 1998, i would hazard a guess that what you don’t understand about networking exceeds what you do 🥴
(DIR) Post #AiuN43UX8WDGui6wfQ by kramse@social.kramse.org
2024-06-14T04:50:03Z
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@noipv6 @cy @bluknight nobody asked them to implement it in 1998, but they had since then to get it implemented, we ARE in 2024 nowThere is no need to get all personal and attack people. If you are such an expert then educate people :-PI will mute you now
(DIR) Post #AiuN43zNHqsoSMXZjs by cy@fedicy.us.to
2024-06-14T05:17:07Z
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No no, only people who agree with whatever they say are allowed to argue. There are only two options: either we agree they're right, or we don't understand, or they're wrong.