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(DIR) Post #AiENUBMv4QpN2nHanA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-24T23:04:08Z
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At the Role-Playing Games club today, a fun debate. The whole campaign is on this ice-locked ship in the arctic: the DM introduced the possibility of sirens.One player declares their character is ace and therefore immune to romantic seduction. Not so, says DM these sirens call out with "whatever you desire most" ... another player wonders if, since their character is monk seeking enlightenment and the death of all worldly desires are they immune?Apparently the sirens do enlightenment too.
(DIR) Post #AiEO0yn6r2kZakAiMi by mycotropic@beige.party
2024-05-24T23:10:02Z
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@futurebird interesting discussion!
(DIR) Post #AiEOAI7GNEiM8L2SO0 by davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social
2024-05-24T23:11:47Z
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@futurebird I'm sorry, but you only have immunity to sirens if you have the Immunity to Sirens skill.The only way you get the Immunity to Sirens skill is if you are a siren.
(DIR) Post #AiEOFwiwp2p3WZMUiW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-24T23:12:49Z
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@davidtheeviloverlord I don't monitor their weird homebrew rules all that closely. But good to know I guess.
(DIR) Post #AiEOLvlbIIO0IESLrM by aadmaa@mathstodon.xyz
2024-05-24T23:13:54Z
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@futurebird It is St Anselm's Siren.
(DIR) Post #AiEONjFYnnJ03IKLT6 by davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social
2024-05-24T23:14:07Z
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@futurebird Just my thoughts, not an actual rule. But it does stop the players wiggling out of being affected.
(DIR) Post #AiEOUK68iNn44W464G by JamesDRyan@mastodon.world
2024-05-24T23:15:24Z
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@futurebird Back it up a sec: Sirens are cold weather beings?I'd have thought that as creatures of seas, where the water is still in liquid form, that they'd avoid ice packs, so this is kind of an interesting point that deserves some consideration, as well...
(DIR) Post #AiEOb7gXGS3RbJKbkO by wmd@chaos.social
2024-05-24T23:16:27Z
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@futurebird does sound like the DM is pushing a mechanic. A monk might seek enlightenment, but I'm not sure I'd say they desire it? Either way I'd rather reward players for being creative, but it is more work.
(DIR) Post #AiEPlRgvpsgaV20Ets by funkula@goblin.camp
2024-05-24T23:29:11Z
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@JamesDRyan @futurebird I think arctic sirens are probably quite a bit...rounder. Like a leopard seal.
(DIR) Post #AiEQAPNHaSlMYMiPBo by DrHyde@fosstodon.org
2024-05-24T23:34:05Z
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@futurebird the BBC had an interesting documentary about monks recently. With some vigorous hand waving, monking is about trying to abandon the world while knowing that you will ALWAYS be tempted. Always.
(DIR) Post #AiES4Sk2M6mnAOeQHw by semitones@tiny.tilde.website
2024-05-24T23:55:20Z
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@futurebird Sounds interesting for the Monk character to think they will be immune, but then to discover that they were not... and there was something they were called to that *wasn't* enlightenment, and find out what it was...
(DIR) Post #AiEZJCNKBdxoQk08Y4 by WhiteCatTamer@mastodon.online
2024-05-25T00:28:53Z
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@funkula @JamesDRyan @futurebird Oh gosh, little rolly polly sirens on the ice sounds so cute, I should just step off the shi-heyyyyyyyyy you’re not getting me THAT easily!
(DIR) Post #AiEZJDBJBnwivlO3SS by funkula@goblin.camp
2024-05-25T01:12:20Z
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@WhiteCatTamer @JamesDRyan @futurebird
(DIR) Post #AiEeNHeezzLXjYsRbE by Extra_Special_Carbon@mastodon.world
2024-05-25T02:13:18Z
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@futurebird It kind of ruins the game mechanic when players can pick arbitrary immunity, so you have to kind of scrap excuses together.I mean, if they also gained a vulnerability, that would be fine, but otherwise it’s not really fair to the other players.
(DIR) Post #AiEf7rNqUZtZrjDnLU by anne_twain@theblower.au
2024-05-25T02:21:49Z
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@futurebird Oh, * those* kind of sirens!. 😂
(DIR) Post #AiEiuXEiUHwrQqqxA8 by log@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-05-25T03:04:13Z
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@futurebird The sirens sing, the song hacks through the auditory cortex and flips on the limbic reward system, and the listener's forebrain does most of the work hallucinating what's out there that is apparently so awesomely great.Your options are to sever your auditory system from the rest of your brain, somehow--preferably in some reversible way--or put up a psychic/magical defense against compulsions.To have *no* desire is to have zero charisma, and that condition is more debilitating.
(DIR) Post #AiEtxu0nMePSQw9LTE by jesterchen@social.tchncs.de
2024-05-25T05:08:07Z
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@futurebird The sirens offer a promise to give you what you want most, they don't give it blatantly to you. So even if you seek enlightenment and stuff, the chars just get the very intense feeling they'll succeed with the help of the sirens. And because they're still trying to leave workday desires behind them, they're still affected. Probably more intense than any other "normal" being that does not put their lives into pursuing their dreams.It's a will-based throw (or nothing). Good luck.
(DIR) Post #AiF2Epof14tXyd3hmS by moopet@toot.cafe
2024-05-25T06:40:42Z
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@futurebird OK but doesn't that imply that non-romantic calls are common? It can't be that historically everyone's number one on the list was a potential mate, can it?
(DIR) Post #AiFFKW7SSbZU1utIno by efi@chitter.xyz
2024-05-25T09:07:33Z
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@futurebird nobody is immune to the allure of the siren's song, for they sing to the heart, not the mind
(DIR) Post #AiFNKdm4nXWPPBSZ28 by IngaLovinde@embracing.space
2024-05-25T10:37:04Z
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@futurebird what if I desire to get out of the arctic :blobcatthinking:
(DIR) Post #AiFUWBv4t2Q4AY7oEi by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-05-25T11:57:36Z
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@futurebird there were some book-and-paper role playing games in which all dice rolls were replaced with the player making a plausible narrative argument for the turn of events to go their way. Amber (based in the universe of the Roger Zelazny Amber novels) was probably the most widely known. I couldn't convince my players to give it a try, which I found surprising, since all of them seemed to make multiple attempts per session to sway my rulings with plausible narrative arguments.