Post Ai3PW0eJxTMpXzrV32 by arjjra@mastodon.nl
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 (DIR) Post #Ai39xxEodX5DoDEeUy by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T13:10:53Z
       
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       Due to bad decisions I made a few years ago, I had ten or so domain names registered with google. domains. Now, of course, they're registered with Squarespace.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3AIn4tbepeNaWyPY by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T13:14:40Z
       
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       I don't want to go through the process of migrating them to a new registrar yet, but I do need to make some changes to exactly one of them.This domain has been parked for a while, and now it's time to be used. I update it's nameservers to point to my webhost, because this is the easier way to make this change. It normally takes twenty minutes or so for those kinds of changes to propagate, but I've been waiting like two hours.I'm convinced that Squarespace is intentionally delaying this process.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3Aa2x5q8MkXF6qno by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T13:17:45Z
       
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       (Seconds after I posted this, NS propagation finally made it's way over to my host. Now I just have to deal with DNS caching in FF.)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3B2uCBTYQhm6vfCS by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T13:23:01Z
       
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       (And, like, I get it. It's propagation. This shit takes time sometimes. But ... two hours? My ttl on these domains was like 5 minutes.)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3CMKO6PxOeStKScC by djsundog@toot-lab.reclaim.technology
       2024-05-19T13:37:42Z
       
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       @ajroach42 was it the registering with goog or was it starting a podcast? who can tell? this toot has been sponsored by ş̶̰͔̊̆q̴̡̡͇̉̽̈̑̃̽̕ů̵̧̧̘͓̫̝̼̝̮̘̭̪͍̇͗͛́͋̈́̉̒̄͘͜͝ą̸̝̖͙̜͔͚͚̱̔̈́̈̅͒́̈̍͂̌̀͠͝ṛ̷͔̪̟̫̰̆̏̀e̷̡̘͇̤̞̱͇̮̠̮͔̲͔̓̌̒̌̽̅͗̓͛́̐́́̐͘ͅs̴̢̛̛̘͇͓̫͉̹̪͚̻̳̐̂́̽͌̉̌͠p̶̨͖͔̾͑̊̃͑̓͌͛̉͂̄̽a̴̛̛͕̻͈̖͙̣̼̣̤̟͐͐͆̆̓͑̽̎̆̿̊̕̕ċ̸͉̣̬̥͎͕̬̥̹͍̟̤̦̥̬̐́̾̔̎̓̀̈́̆͒͜͝ͅě̴̞̠͇̙̗̦͉̳͉͒́ͅ
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3EUSJ33otfFTy64W by lampsofgold@veoh.social
       2024-05-19T14:01:33Z
       
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       @ajroach42 yeah 2 hours is ridiculous
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3HCu3DT3sHwmsvNw by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T14:31:56Z
       
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       @maren Yeah, that makes sense.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3KVEe5w2TgtbZFcu by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T15:08:58Z
       
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       Still hasn't propagated out this far. At this point, I'm blaming our ISP.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3KiPm9rhNJBCcj7g by tayledras@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T15:11:20Z
       
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       @ajroach42 What's the DNS entry?What's your NS server?DNS propagating, CDNs, and multi-layer caching is *always* fun.  No matter my ISP, hosting, cache, and CDN, I'm always doing traces and triage.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3Ktzn2J0hU3qYZAu by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T15:13:22Z
       
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       @tayledras I have chosen not to share that information at this time. I'm not looking for help, I'm just expressing frustration, mostly at myself for using google domains, and then at google for selling to squarespace, and then at squarespace for being so shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3LHE5bJ5An4QJj28 by tayledras@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T15:17:39Z
       
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       @ajroach42 OK, it was just an offer.I've hosted under AWS and GCP for many years.  Quite familiar the "fun" of caching and DNS propagation under both.Sometimes, it seems or feels random, and later, it becomes clear that it's not.  DNS and caching are logical systems, just not always in the way that human beings apply logic or expect them to.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3LTCVT18kNdW7rMm by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T15:19:50Z
       
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       @tayledras I appreciate the offer. My background is mostly in enterprise infrastructure. I understand these systems and how they work and how to troubleshoot them. I know that the solution, in this case, is just *wait*, and I find that frustrating.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3LjIt33ybW3epmgC by tayledras@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T15:22:44Z
       
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       @ajroach42 "just *wait*, and I find that frustrating."the bane of many a developer and manager.I was asked several times by managers to investigate server-side cachine, DNS-caching, cache expiration and purging, and DNS propagation over the years.Explaining systems to impatient managers has always been entertaining, the difficult part was keeping my sarcasm out of the documentation when they asked for an RCA on slow propagations.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3PW0eJxTMpXzrV32 by arjjra@mastodon.nl
       2024-05-19T16:05:08Z
       
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       @ajroach42 it’s not propagation
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3VDJp13CUREUKqOX by ieure@retro.social
       2024-05-19T17:08:57Z
       
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       @ajroach42 If you changed what nameservers are authoritative for a zone (which is what it sounds like) the TTL for stuff inside the zone doesn't matter, because the things getting updated are the SOA records in the global root nameservers, whose TTL you don't control.It's probably not Squarespace doing anything intentionally shitty.You can use dig(8) to see what's going on in this case, since you can query servers directly & don't have to deal with local system or upstream DNS server caches.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3VmRa6C2gfQw6gWe by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T17:15:18Z
       
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       @ieure I did change which nameservers were authoritative for a zone, but prior to that, I updated the records within the zone to match what was configured on the new nameservers. I did discover that they reset my TTL from 15 minutes to several hours, but that doesn't appear to have been malicious either, but a byproduct of the migration and the weird way I had some stuff configured when the migration kicked off for this parked domain. It's not that they're being explicitly shitty, it's just that a bunch of Reasonable-in-a-vacuum decisions have caused me to lose the morning waiting on DNS propagation. dig makes it very clear what's going on. I can see the new authoritative servers. I can bounce around my servers and see that DNS propagation has happened in most of the US, but it hasn't trickled down to Atlanta yet. So I'm stuck mildly irritated that this thing is taking an amount of time that is not unusual, but that is longer than it would have under google.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3hKI5X5qq5Ki9THs by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T19:24:43Z
       
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       Alright, it's finally working on other devices on this network. Which means that the fact that it's not working on this computer is down to local DNS cache. Which local DNS cache? No one knows!
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3hP5kwN5QwX8oEYy by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T19:25:35Z
       
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       My cert order hasn't finished yet either, which is slightly more concerning.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3jY5HdhJclaAWGiu by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T19:49:34Z
       
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       Yeah, I dunno what's up with the cert order. I'll give it two more hours and then I'll start bugging someone.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3jxDQiXwce5UkWB6 by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T19:54:08Z
       
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       As far as the website goes, I threw all the content I had written in to a template that I first wrote ... 8 years ago or something like that? I tweaked the colors and fixed a bug that has sprung up because of some vendor specific css rules I was using 10 years ago that have been replaced by real CSS rules. (It was a minor bug, and the fix I implemented is both Wrong and Entirely functional.) I was going to just use this as a base to hack from and build something new but... It's taken so long for me to get everything else to the point that it's functional that I kind of don't want to anymore, and also this old Vintage Computer template really works for this project, so I don't feel compelled to do much more.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3jzQ0ujONvh8jLTk by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T19:54:34Z
       
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       The first design I tried was full of images and looked neat. This one isn't, and still looks neat. That's good!
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3n0GMkO2rLvO2Llw by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T20:28:20Z
       
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       (I'm not being coy. I will share the site when it's done and the cert is working.)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3nCDnzjTwbSTU4cS by tayledras@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T20:30:21Z
       
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       @ajroach42 Honestly looking forward to it.What are you using for the cert?Using ACM from your hosting provider or SquareSpace, LetsEncrypt, or manual CSR and CA?All of mine are either LetsEncrypt or ACM now.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3ntd5laq6aKrUlQO by ajroach42@retro.social
       2024-05-19T20:38:20Z
       
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       @tayledras this one is let's encrypt through the hosting provider. It's a simple static site, and I didn't feel like writing nginx confs today, so I leaned on shared hosting. But their let's encrypt process looks like it's hung up, probably becuase I pressed the button before DNS propagation was finished.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai5hYLWrUBt2NIYZkW by VE2UWY@mastodon.radio
       2024-05-20T18:36:37Z
       
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       @ajroach42 Is nscd still a thing on linux?  Flush it then consider killing it outright.