Post AhyRiDO3ebaue5P3Ym by bhtooefr@snack.social
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 (DIR) Post #AhyRi6sHrocERoUbCq by NanoRaptor@bitbang.social
       2024-05-02T11:38:33Z
       
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       If I were to go hunt down an old ThinkPad as the one ThinkPad for my collection, given the Wallstreet PowerBook is one of my ever-favourites, what year & model should I be hovering around?
       
 (DIR) Post #AhyRi8FMlUfehgIXom by bhtooefr@snack.social
       2024-05-02T13:15:41.857448Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor So, the contemporary/comparable ThinkPad with the Wallstreet G3s (that is, large 14.1" flagship) would be the 770 series(most contemporary would be the 770E/770ED and the 770X specifically - basically, 770 is Pentium MMX, 770E/ED, X, and Z are different speeds of Pentium II (and X and Z get a slightly newer graphics chip and a 13.7" 1280x1024 screen option))
       
 (DIR) Post #AhyRi9YtsLtGmYReu8 by bhtooefr@snack.social
       2024-05-02T13:29:50.772932Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor also, a note about numbering in numeric-series ThinkPads:200 means a subnotebook (most of these were Japan-only) - was replaced by a couple models in the s Series, arguably some X series models300 means low-end - was replaced by low-end A series, and later the R and G (and now E/L) series500 means a subnotebook that's bigger than a 200 - was replaced by the X series600 means thin and light - was replaced by the T series nominally, but nowadays is really replaced by the X series700 means high-end (and in one case, the 701, a subnotebook) - was replaced by the A series, then later the T series effectively, and later yet the W and P series800 means basically a 700 with a PowerPCiSeries *usually* means Acer trash, but *sometimes* means a low-end config of a 300 or 500/early X seriesalso, there were tablets in the 700 series, and one convertible tablet in the 300 seriesI'll go through the *iconic* options, IMO
       
 (DIR) Post #AhyRiAzWYqmVDPuR2e by bhtooefr@snack.social
       2024-05-02T13:34:46.484584Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor a big one is one of the A4-size ones. there's a few generations of this:700/720 - *the* first-gen ThinkPad laptop. MCA, 486SLC, and a DBA hard drive. honestly, I'd avoid unless you're a hardcore PS/2 or ThinkPad fan.350 - low-end 486750/755, 360/355/370/365 (yes, chronologically in *THAT* order for the 300s, no, I don't know what IBM was smoking) - 486 to Pentium MMX. keyboard pops up like a car hood to get at the stuff inside. I ended up getting a 365XD because I specifically wanted something of this generation, and the 365XD was the end of this line.340/345 - low-end EMEA-specific 486s760 - Pentium and Pentium MMX. keyboard also automatically inclines up, and LED indicators are replaced with LCD.X200/201 - Core 2 and first-gen Core i. (and yes, I have an X200 with an X201 motherboard shoehorned in, too, as the last A4 formfactor ThinkPad notebook.) not actually iconic at all unless you're a fan of LibreBoot, but.(also the 350 and 340/345 aren't iconic either. and I left off some stuff that doesn't even have TrackPoints (or any internal pointing device at all) in the 300 series.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AhyRiBV4fY1CnGfdDc by bhtooefr@snack.social
       2024-05-02T13:44:55.436498Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor high-end stuff:I mean, basically anything 700 from the previous post, plus the 765 (a 760 with a bigger screen), 770 as mentioned before, IIRC the 390 spent a short time as the flagship for whatever reason?, A20 for a P3 flagship (don't get one with an m at the end, that's low-end trash), and A30 for a P4 flagship. (15" T-series effectively replaced the A series, and then became the W and then P series.)ultraportable flagships, the 701C is iconic as fuck with the butterfly keyboard. if you like hunting down JDM-specific stuff, an s30/s31 is also a good (P3-era) choice. or, hard to go wrong with a 560 (PMMX/P2), 570 (P2/P3), X2x (P3), X3x (P3 or Pentium M), X4x (Pentium M), or X6x (Core/Core 2).also, the original 560/560E is an Apple fan's ThinkPad in another way - OpenSTEP had very good support for it because Steve Jobs used one as his personal laptop at the time. (my 365XD actually piggybacks on that driver support, having almost identical hardware.)thin-and-light... so this is weird. the ThinkPad 600 was *absolutely* the X30x or X1 Carbon of its day, and a lot of people swear by it as the best ThinkPad ever (basically it was "what if we made a *thin* 765 out of carbon fiber, and then kept putting newer CPUs in it all the way into the P3 era?") the T series replaced it, but the standards of what was "thin and light" ended up changing, such that I feel like the 14.1" T-series is really something different. going later, the X300/X301 (Core 2 and I think first-gen Core i era?) was iconic and effectively aimed *directly* at the MacBook Air (it was developed before the MBA was public, though).
       
 (DIR) Post #AhyRiDO3ebaue5P3Ym by bhtooefr@snack.social
       2024-05-02T13:51:07.966086Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor oh, right, I forgot about the W700ds/701ds! Wacom tablet in the palmrest, netbook screen that pops out of the side of the main screen. iconic af.and then we get into "last of an era" stuff that people care about.the last 4:3s (AFAIK nobody really cares about the R6x):X61 (12.1")T60 for 15.0", T61 for 14.1"the last that don't have Intel ME and can run Libreboot:X200T400/500W700/700dsthe last that have the 7-row keyboard:X220T420/520/W520ThinkPad 25 (IIRC this is basically a T470 with a 7-row keyboard retrofitted)
       
 (DIR) Post #AilXH7Kuqow69ggzku by guffo@topspicy.social
       2024-05-02T11:41:19Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor Just my opinion, but if you want the ULTIMATE ThinkPad, then it has to be the one with the butterfly keyboard. The Thinkpad 701
       
 (DIR) Post #AilXH8wAtmKl7X8GTA by guffo@topspicy.social
       2024-05-02T11:44:32Z
       
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       @NanoRaptor I mean, LOOK