Post AhuFdaDlM24Pvwlz7I by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
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 (DIR) Post #AhuFdW9iT8SNKEqhFo by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
       2024-04-04T20:47:57Z
       
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       The other day, I got on my soapbox  bit about productivity, how humans work and how we don't need to choose between having this nice happy world where people are allowed to help each other and "actually being productive"I also described humans as a social and equitable animal that wants to help others. But... I don't have any scientific citations on hand for that; I've seen research around it over the years, I just don't have references on hand.Do y'all happen to know of any I can read?
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFdXiUfJryAO7z6G by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
       2024-04-04T20:49:41Z
       
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       This feels like something that @grimalkina or @KFosterMarks might know more about, since it seems very up your alley, but I haven't dug into the citations of your papers yet enough to know if the answer I'm looking for is buried in there or not :blobfoxpleading:
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFdZTK8gvJbv2tjU by KFosterMarks@mastodon.social
       2024-04-05T16:17:51Z
       
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       @hazelweakly What exactly are you looking for literature on? Not sure I'm parsing from the original post here. The false dichotomy between collaboration and productivity? The tendency for some humans to be social? Or equitable? I think if you give me something more specific, I might be able to point you in the direction of some scholarly lit that has informed my own thinking...
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFdaDlM24Pvwlz7I by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
       2024-04-05T16:21:43Z
       
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       @KFosterMarks I seem to recall reading research at some point that had a fairly strong refuting of the idea that humans are inherently evil and selfish and backstabbing and that it's impossible to build a society where equitability works. But I don't know if that was research in the "we studied humans and found that they're wired that way" sense or just "we found a few groups that managed to pull it off, neat"
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFdcBM3xKg13f5do by josh@social.joshtriplett.org
       2024-04-05T16:23:22.379475Z
       
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       All the research I've seen suggests that humans are wired to be able to do this within groups they consider their in-group, but not in a larger setting. Which doesn't mean we can't do it, but that it'll take overcoming the norm to do so.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFddXj0GowEj8T9E by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
       2024-04-05T16:22:10Z
       
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       @KFosterMarks I worded the original post pretty terribly I think, my bad 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #AhuFdhL6t76g0lGS2a by hazelweakly@hachyderm.io
       2024-04-05T16:46:29Z
       
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       @KFosterMarks I'd love any scholarly lit that's informed your thinking regardless, though :)