Post AhsUnFbHzBiHs8vQDw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
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 (DIR) Post #AhsPYz85vauoxoeEaG by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T08:43:29Z
       
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       Interesting: I just tried following someone on mastodon.ie with an unlocked account and it got turned into a follow request.Has mastodon.ie silenced me?#madtodon #ireland
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsPfCdccHtWb5MLg0 by DJDarren@mendeddrum.org
       2024-05-14T08:44:27Z
       
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       @aral They can’t handle the truth you’re spittin’
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsPt284U8Sw3hCGcS by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T08:47:05Z
       
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       @DJDarren It would be good to know for sure so I can stop recommending that people join them as I have been doing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsQOXoSjfoTIj3CL2 by jonoabroad@mastodon.nz
       2024-05-14T08:52:46Z
       
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       @aral this was/is one of the things about social media that we don't have a good or really any solution to yet.I had to stop myself on twitter from wanting to know why people had blocked me, I think I'm mostly harmless, if a bit sweary. It would be nice if one could see _why_ a block occurs or has occurred.But then 🤷‍♂️
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsQhvhc8gXgtZ5hXk by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T08:56:19Z
       
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       @jonoabroad A block is one thing (and, at an instance level, should be communicated with a reason). Shadow-banning/silencing without reason at the instance level is another (and should also be communicated). Twitter had better transparency in communicating some of these things (and allowing for appeals) than some fediverse instances.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsQsQKl6i4anCP8ng by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T08:58:13Z
       
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       @harriettmb Nope, their account is unlocked. You can see me because you’re following me. If I’m silenced, it means my posts won’t be seen on the server by anyone not already following me and all my follows get turned into follow requests, etc. I’ve not had trouble before so it must be a recent thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsR0eDdMnPIAmzeV6 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T08:59:37Z
       
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       @androcat @jonoabroad I just specially told you their account is not set for that. And an instance silencing someone is not the same as a person blocking another (which I don’t care about one bit).
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsR7GC35jkngbPAx6 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:00:44Z
       
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       @nikodemus If you have it set to accept followers (no lock) and a follow request shows pending anyway that’s an indicator that the server has silenced you.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsRLKSW1r3KyBodgO by jonoabroad@mastodon.nz
       2024-05-14T09:01:07Z
       
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       @androcat @aral This! I  caught myself about to be that guy.Makes you sit down and have a long hard look at yourself.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsRLLW661VoFaV0u8 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:03:22Z
       
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       @jonoabroad @androcat Are either of you vocally opposing the genocide in Gaza on here and have people reporting you to instances to get you silenced/blocked to get you to shut up about it? If not, maybe cut out the “I’m so happy I’m not that guy” crap.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsRUuHkCHNggnLQMS by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:05:07Z
       
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       @jonoabroad @androcat I don’t give a shit if any specific account blocks me. While instances doing so for political reasons so their members won’t see certain viewpoints? Yes, I care about that. At the very least, I care that it is publicly-known so people can avoid them if that’s the case.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsRYlhC4gkRCw5ci8 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:05:48Z
       
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       @PaulH @mastodonie Yep, this wouldn’t affect folks already following me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsSVKCvuz1F2YrE9Y by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:16:24Z
       
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       @harriettmb @nikodemus Hi Harriett, thank you, that won’t be necessary. This would only affect accounts on mastodon.ie that don’t follow me. Mastodon.social and other servers wouldn’t be affected by it.I appreciate your trying to help :) 💕
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsSbsA8aU1M5SfjA8 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:17:30Z
       
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       @androcat @jonoabroad No worries.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsSflWpC8Mmfc8kU4 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:18:19Z
       
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       @ciaranmak @mastodonie Very easy for them to confirm, one way or another.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsTdZNpTkOqNURvGK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:29:03Z
       
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       @bob If an instance is going to silence/block someone for their political posts, it should make that information public so people can use it when deciding whether to join that server. For people in #Ireland, for example, it is very relevant information to know if someone is silenced by mastodon.ie for their posts opposing #Israel’s #genocide of the #Palestinian people in #Gaza, should it turn out to be the case. Assuming that wouldn’t sit well with a lot of Irish folks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsTlXxMfSLoGksHEe by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:29:44Z
       
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       @bob If an instance is going to silence/block someone for their political posts, it should make that information public so people can use it when deciding whether to join that server. For people in #Ireland, for example, it is very relevant information to know if someone is silenced by mastodon.ie for their posts opposing #Israel’s #genocide of the #Palestinian people in #Gaza, should it turn out to be the case. Assuming that wouldn’t sit well with a lot of Irish folks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsUnFbHzBiHs8vQDw by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:42:01Z
       
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       @padraig Interesting. So maybe it’s a snafu with the federation/follow requests? @mastodonie
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsUyOjgMS0VOHANk0 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T09:44:04Z
       
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       @padraig @mastodonie@johnlynch Quick question: did you have to approve my follow request just now? I can see that I’m now listed as following you but it said “pending” initially.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsXyNXf6EuVYBE6PQ by julian@fietkau.social
       2024-05-14T10:17:42Z
       
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       @aral @padraig @mastodonie The way ActivityPub follows work, pending follows including on unlocked accounts can be caused by the target server being overloaded. Could that be the case here?Mastodon's UI usually jumps directly from "Follow" to "Following" on unlocked accounts even if the "Accept" hasn't arrived yet (it assumes it will arrive quickly). But if you refresh the page before it arrives, you'll see "Pending". If the server is overloaded, maybe it's failing to accept follows.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahsko7RTP0Y27rlnJg by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T12:41:15Z
       
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       @pre That’s one possibility, I guess.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahsl9s3LIdnWlfr4Ua by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T12:45:21Z
       
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       @erisianlib @masto_ie_support Just tried following you and got the same thing. Can you please let me know if you get the same message about me?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahslr8Xtr5q2N6mLTc by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T12:53:13Z
       
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       @erisianlib @masto_ie_support (If you do, a screenshot would be very useful. Thanks in advance.) :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsmELw6EjDyYsAUTo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T12:57:24Z
       
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       @erisianlib @masto_ie_support No rush, bon appétit, and thank you :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsnkNlN4yj7RrzFAG by haliphax@hachyderm.io
       2024-05-14T13:14:17Z
       
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       @aral @mastodonie I saw that with many accounts when I first joined because either my home server or theirs was overburdened
       
 (DIR) Post #AhstN05vVlpV6fpqym by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T14:17:25Z
       
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       @erisianlib @masto_ie_support Don’t know – I haven’t looked into the code recently.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhsthhZNa8j1jYTzVo by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T14:21:07Z
       
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       @erisianlib You should be able to see me in searches, etc. It’s my posts that’ll be hidden from the public timeline for folks not following me. And the approval of the follow requests.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhstlrmlXcjSZmjKCG by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T14:21:17Z
       
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       @erisianlib (Appreciate your checking.)
       
 (DIR) Post #Aht1qNn5Hvesd7Xl0y by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T15:52:22Z
       
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       @erisianlib But you didn’t see that for my account, right? Which would tell me it’s not limited/silenced.
       
 (DIR) Post #Aht2gMQVbZeNSQljn6 by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T16:01:44Z
       
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       @erisianlib Thanks. I’ve asked for confirmation but haven’t heard back yet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhtPqI8ghMH60B8bCK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T20:21:17Z
       
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       @mastodonie Thanks; appreciate your looking into it and apologies for taking up your time.(Apparently the symptom of pending follow requests on unlocked accounts could be a sidekiq queue delay as well as a sign of a limited account.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AhtQRVWtsLQCFLD0jI by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2024-05-14T20:27:59Z
       
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       @mastodonie 💕