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(DIR) Post #AhogJzDwDUKVV6yXGy by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:32:44Z
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Do you want anything "AI" (Artificial Intelligence) in your (future) phone/mobile device?#AI
(DIR) Post #AhogVUX49WHZmuPNZo by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:34:49Z
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My personal choice is: "Nooop"And I really, really hope #Apple will leave this out 🙏 An "AI iPhone" is really not an option :no: At that point it's back to the Nokia 3210 😀
(DIR) Post #Ahogb7eE9KNeYBRWgy by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:35:47Z
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@writeblankspace That's a better option indeed, unfort my guess is that those options will be added later or never
(DIR) Post #AhogdnRthl9Um0x1WK by GottaLaff@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T13:36:21Z
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@stux Agree
(DIR) Post #AhogkQxJjTUh2ToQ3U by AndyGER@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T13:37:33Z
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@stux AI makes everything better, they say.I doubt it but I think we can not hide from it in the future ...
(DIR) Post #AhognECtaXkUMtQnr6 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:38:03Z
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@AndyGER But we can try :blobcatgiggle: 💪
(DIR) Post #AhoguTEs6B7L12oDlw by AndyGER@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T13:39:22Z
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@stux There may be possibilities for AI to improve on things.Like in photography with a smartphone where sensors are rather small and lenses are not really sophisticated in comparison to photo cameras.But AI-everything is not the solution, I guess ...
(DIR) Post #Ahogv4BcjDVJbgZeLY by mentallyalex@beige.party
2024-05-12T13:39:29Z
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@stux I asked someone something similar a few days ago.What point is too far and we really do push back into the flip phone?Can we even do that anymore? Are the networks still viable?Verizon a long time ago, forced me into a smart phone. They said it was a requirement because of tower coverage. This was a hundred years ago back into the iPhone 2 or 4 at least. Probably 10yrs or more?I use my smart phone like crazy but with the amount of overreach that is constantly happening from every avenue - I certainly don't know how much longer I can justify it.
(DIR) Post #Ahoh4BL3VRlIOYKezQ by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:41:06Z
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@RandomDamage @AndyGER I still got one! 💪 A little slow but it's something!
(DIR) Post #Ahoh5PTASBPOViiDBY by alextecplayz@techhub.social
2024-05-12T13:41:22Z
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@stux I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to having AI on my phone, but it needs to be open-source, and the model to be downloaded only if the user consents. I could see it being useful for code autocompletion, stuff like Circle to Search, a summarize feature in notes, social media, etc. As long as AI is rightfully used only as a tool to help the user, I'm fine with it.
(DIR) Post #Ahoh6DQ2k4cPQVdQG0 by MartyFouts@mastodon.online
2024-05-12T13:41:30Z
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@stux scientific wild ass guess: AI means something different to the handful of people voting yes. I don’t want the silly apps coming from the current fad in generative large ml models but I do want the AI that has already quietly existed on mobile devices in games for years, for example.
(DIR) Post #AhohGgIMEj5xsc1wsi by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T13:43:17Z
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@meka Well, i still always chose for the "manual" method if possibleI don't like AI generating stuff without my exact input or how i want it, otherwise i have to redo it anyways :flan_laugh: Data is a big no no 😇
(DIR) Post #AhohJJFqMCw5I16k5o by bbbhltz@framapiaf.org
2024-05-12T13:43:29Z
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@stux that new Nokia 3210 released last week looks ok as feature phones go. At least it isn't some KaiOS thing with WhatsApp baked in but it does come with Facebook baked in...
(DIR) Post #AhohZrbyO2GiTlLu1w by thylacoleo@mas.to
2024-05-12T13:46:51Z
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@stux No. From my understanding of how AI works, I find it a pointless use of technology.Moreover, things like Shortcuts and Routines exist on the phone.You just write the conditions and actions yourself. In fact, I think more people should be aware of the basic concepts of logic.I don't like how everything is being hidden from users nowadays.I know, I sound like the old man yelling at clouds meme. 👴🏻✊🏻☁️
(DIR) Post #Ahohbe6Farqd9WMdUm by Adam@social.lein.us
2024-05-12T13:47:17Z
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@stux Maybe if it's open source and runs locally without any cloud connections.
(DIR) Post #Ahohglx1pXQAx0UlGq by chiasm@mastodon.online
2024-05-12T13:48:07Z
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@stux it depends.
(DIR) Post #AhohoI4wmKe0cVmfJI by scubbo@fosstodon.org
2024-05-12T13:49:29Z
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@stux technically, yes - since autocorrect/typing-prompts which adapt to your personal idiom qualify, and there are probably genuinely helpful system-level things like dynamically-adapting network-connectivity code.But "no" to the question in the sense that you probably intended it - large-scale or intrusive user-facing apps.
(DIR) Post #Ahohxe0kbVuhFSHVIG by M_el_viejo@lile.cl
2024-05-12T13:51:05Z
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@stux Well, thinking about it more, maybe, so that it can respond on its own to call centers and other boringand I sent them away to...
(DIR) Post #AhoiBNtRKKJDJVPhBY by flo@chaos.social
2024-05-12T13:53:38Z
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@stux my iPhone can detect different people in the photos app, so some kind of machine learning has to exist
(DIR) Post #AhoiL2cTHDeQEL56Om by kAlvaro@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T13:55:22Z
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@stux What I want is audio jack and rectangular screen with no holes or rounded corners. Products have what CEOs want, not what customers want.
(DIR) Post #AhoiPXc5z47xVy3F32 by gudenau@fosstodon.org
2024-05-12T13:56:13Z
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@stux The old definition of it for simple voice commands and not the new definition of "infringing copyright of the entire planet."
(DIR) Post #AhoiaCoLfPgQBNrrPs by gi124@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T13:58:08Z
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@stux yes and no. getting it to enhance pics etc, definitely yes. but having it manage my contacts, messages and calendar, definitely not
(DIR) Post #AhoinbsflluLhRHY1o by th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml
2024-05-12T14:00:24Z
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@stux That would be a hard No from me.The point of mobile device, i.m.o., is to be self-sustaining, autonomous, being able to operate efficiently offline (not counting mobile communications, which is and always will be essential). The more functions we delegate to AI in the remote cloud (especially if that AI is ChatGPT), the less those new devices will act like actual controllable devices. They would be reduced to marketable all-in-one wonderboxes that would turn into bricks the moment their maker goes bankrupt.I've seen too many dead smart devices to think otherwise.
(DIR) Post #Ahoj3Uu9TTMQhGY8aO by noodlejetski@masto.ai
2024-05-12T14:03:25Z
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@stux I impulsively voted "no" thinking of LLMs, but... it depends? some of the offline, machine learning-based stuff that Apple does is quite impressive, like being able to search your photo gallery for text on pictures. I stick to a degoogled Android ROM with mostly FOSS apps, but things like that one do make me jealous just a little bit.any ChatGPT-enabled assistant and the like can eff right off, though.
(DIR) Post #AhojlZ25UJ10F1H3Fg by parpok@101010.pl
2024-05-12T14:11:23Z
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@stux as long as it’s on device then I don’t mind it.
(DIR) Post #AhokGzsDkCBUSoeBxg by AndyGER@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T14:15:48Z
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@RandomDamage @stux At the moment, yes. This may change soon ...
(DIR) Post #AhokH0gYj2RyywCOQK by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T14:16:58Z
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@AndyGER @RandomDamage perhaps! Until now I’m kinda happy I live in the EU if it comes to tech :ed_grin: Don’t fck with the EU or they’ll find out :apple_inc: :google:
(DIR) Post #AhokwcEm0tDPJt2dJA by photovince@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T14:24:35Z
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@stux Haha - as if these are the options. You’re either for or against, or you can’t possibly have an opinion 😂
(DIR) Post #Ahol4pHBQ2a84l5FEO by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T14:26:03Z
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@photovince These ‘simple options’ confuse enough already :ablobwink: let’s not make it even more complicated haha
(DIR) Post #AholI7lpy6hzCRlMPY by qkslvrwolf@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T14:28:17Z
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@stux I mean, if it was a local model that didn't need to send anything to the cloud, maybe, but we're not alking about those.
(DIR) Post #Ahon5HFBdRhGizUbMu by frankcat@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T14:48:28Z
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@stux Exactly - who the hell wants a four year old taking over their phone. That said AI will wreak havoc in the workplace. Social welfare states like the Nordic countries will cope. The Unregulated Free for All countries will flounder. The opioid crisis is going to look tame by comparison.
(DIR) Post #AhonLUDr9ImnbtbEK8 by Semmelstulle@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T14:51:24Z
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@stux it depends. Reigniting people in Photos.app already is some kind of AI but if it's a LLM, I want it to be able to run fully on device. It doesn't have to by default, but I want at least an option to be able to.
(DIR) Post #AhonY0Dg0hjCK3U2mO by frankcat@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T14:53:44Z
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@stux AI is a useful tool but I don’t want a dumb but useful tool trying to manage my life.
(DIR) Post #Ahono8N9SxUQF1bjNo by resuna@ohai.social
2024-05-12T14:56:33Z
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@stux If it was actually a general intelligence maybe, but then there's all the ethical issues of owning a person... but spicy autocomplete, no.
(DIR) Post #AhooDzott1A1FHv1ge by benpocalypse@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T15:01:19Z
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@stux Narp.
(DIR) Post #AhooWYczD6XCPeCGPo by shac@ioc.exchange
2024-05-12T15:04:40Z
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@stux You’re many years too late for this poll. On iPhones they use machine learning for many things, including facial and object recognition in photos, text capture from images, route suggestions in maps, optimizing power management, scheduling of background services activity, text autocomplete and ottercorrect, speech recognition, many camera things, etc.
(DIR) Post #AhotJGp6ayoHCPLhJI by icg937@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T15:58:07Z
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@stux It depends on what it does and what it's for. And also on my consent about it.
(DIR) Post #AhovlAXLlGcNidTVBI by noorhain@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T16:25:46Z
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@stux not interested at all, really. Whenever I use any AI I find myself double checking the outcome because I don’t trust the results. I still find it useful for certain little tasks such as creating a quick list of synonims.
(DIR) Post #AhowoKS3SIsbI84Jou by EdanOsborne@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T16:37:33Z
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@stux I have mixed feelings. On one hand, it would REALLY improve Siri. On the other hand, practically all AI at the moment is problematic, and there's no reason why Apple's attempt would be any different.
(DIR) Post #Ahoy8Cb6SyBig7LDeK by claude_flammang@dju.social
2024-05-12T16:52:19Z
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@stux 20+ years ago we used to call it “fuzzy logic”. We are using AI all the time, especially in our phones.
(DIR) Post #AhoyTrUTcbsHaTZOHA by torovolts@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T16:56:10Z
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@stux as long as it’s actually useful, it’s on-device and isn’t trained on scraped data from the internet I don’t mind AI on my phone
(DIR) Post #Ahp23y7akH3WRLm400 by pixelcode@social.tchncs.de
2024-05-12T17:36:17Z
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@stux Of course!QT @gael https://mastodon.social/@gael/112083834721975376
(DIR) Post #Ahp3qPrP134GKCrpVQ by jnv@fosstodon.org
2024-05-12T17:56:21Z
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@stux not upgrading iOS is another solution and same with android.
(DIR) Post #Ahp6F9vrZaBe4ZsbnE by _maleficentgirl@troet.cafe
2024-05-12T18:23:13Z
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@stux Abso-fuckin-lutely not. I'm already castrating the current version. All the pre-installed unecessary bull I cant deinstall or delete gets deactivated and shunned.
(DIR) Post #AhpFNTS7mPKoWC0eCu by dolwup@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T20:05:34Z
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@stux Tbh it depends on what kind of AI. A small local LLM as a smarter auto correct? Yes please!Image desctiption through AI as an assistive technologie? Great idea!An AI "Assistant" to "speak" to or to generate images for me? No.I especially don't want a fucking dedicated button for that
(DIR) Post #AhpKOKQ3LoMCYuGdF2 by zephi@wetdry.world
2024-05-12T21:01:46Z
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@stux I really, really hope #Apple will leave this outabout that...
(DIR) Post #AhpLi2FaiA7JxUKoGu by condalmo@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T21:16:33Z
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@stux No thank you to spicy autoomplete
(DIR) Post #AhpSes3oq8VHAKGaTg by cherold@zirk.us
2024-05-12T22:34:24Z
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@stux The people have spoken - and will be ignored.
(DIR) Post #AhpT0lYZhaPXMg5oJc by mah@hachyderm.io
2024-05-12T22:38:19Z
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@stux yes, if it's local and is actually going to make my life easier in some way. Why not.
(DIR) Post #AhpTC7exrbpJ6MUr0y by cubeofcheese@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T22:40:25Z
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@stux there's tons of different kinds of AI, so it really depends. Like AI to play chess against? Yes please. AI for portrait mode photos? I like it. AI to replace my search engine? Absolutely not. There's a lot of AI already present on people's phones that they don't really think about that is genuinely useful and not harmful. It just depends on what kind of AI you're talking about and how it's being used.
(DIR) Post #AhpTnOOYbYrFihasmu by Beltliner403@mastodon.online
2024-05-12T22:47:09Z
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@stux [BLEEP] no. #ArtificialIdiocy
(DIR) Post #AhpWGKMyqldRXdmVlI by ramin_hal9001@emacs.ch
2024-05-12T23:14:45Z
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@stux I vote "yes" just because there are a few useful algorithms, even deep learning algorithms, that used to be considered "AI" but are no longer considered so because they have nothing to do with LLMs, that I would absolutely like to have in my cell phone, especially if they are small enough to improve my typing speed on a touch screen, or adjust my camera settings to have the best photo possible, without having to make remote procedure calls to an LLM over the Internet.
(DIR) Post #AhpZCrDj4Nb089UQ1w by tabernac@c.im
2024-05-12T23:47:47Z
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@stux Call me when Skynet comes on-line.
(DIR) Post #AhpZQT6pVlZNPAkpSS by nrmacdonald@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T23:50:13Z
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@stux I cannot sa NO strongly enough
(DIR) Post #AhpaiWQc0fJyrjBCpU by Grant_M@mastodon.social
2024-05-13T00:04:40Z
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@stux I’m with you!
(DIR) Post #AhpbVkL94gOSCa5w24 by cholling@social.sdf.org
2024-05-13T00:13:33Z
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@stux The software in your camera app that recognizes faces or QR codes is artificial intelligence, as is voice recognition, as are dozens of things that have been in phones for decades. Hell, if you have a chess app on your phone, it's AI.I don't want LLM chatbots in my mobile device, though.
(DIR) Post #AhphKTkyzQx7JFBrqS by Blort@social.tchncs.de
2024-05-13T01:18:46Z
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@stux I voted "Yes", but what I would like is such a tiny, tiny subset of what's possible, that I suspect that everything I get will be stuff I don't like or want.What I would *like* would be something with fully FOSS algo's, a publicly available and ethically sourced reproducible training dataset that is 100% private and sends no data off, other than to my personal server. I'd also like it to be highly energy efficient.Would I like that? Sure. Do I think that's what I'm likely to get? Nope.
(DIR) Post #Ahpl5Z4TLg4dGSRz1c by DrewNaylor@mastodon.online
2024-05-13T02:00:55Z
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@stux No, and I don't like that Samsung put it in the S24 line, either, but I was wanting a new phone after almost 6 years of a 6S Plus and the S24 Ultra looked like a Lumia and here I am. At least you can turn it all off and forget about it.
(DIR) Post #Ahptgf6OggX8JjYDnE by boilingsteam@mastodon.cloud
2024-05-13T03:37:14Z
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@stux I'm not sure you will even have the choice
(DIR) Post #AhqEEvlVEuCyvSObMu by ttmevans@mstdn.social
2024-05-13T07:27:33Z
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@stux I like the idea of a dumb phone, and I spent a good amount to time thinking about buying a Nokia 800 (the TOUGH one).My problem is that 4G on my home network is getting less reliable every day, as 5G takes over some of the available spectrum. And none of the feature phones have 5G chipsets (yet).I’d also like it to be FOSS, of course, but my iPhone isn’t, so I’m not going backwards.
(DIR) Post #AhtBSPrOwOX1dlm0FE by tayledras@mastodon.social
2024-05-14T17:40:25Z
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@stux I'm desperately trying to claw it out of my OS and my browser.Microsoft sticking Co-Pilot into Windows and Edge. Google sticking OpenAI into Chrome. Apple merging OpenAI into Siri.I'm starting to think Frank Herbert had it right the whole time:“Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.”― Frank Herbert, DuneEverything that Frank Herbert wrote about is coming to pass. Mankind is going to need a Butlerian Jihad to regain and remember our humanity?
(DIR) Post #AhtKwsxyBnXCBaRvN2 by stux@mstdn.social
2024-05-14T19:26:42Z
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@sabrinadent I totally understand that reason for sure! And that seems one of the few valid ones 👌🏻♥️
(DIR) Post #AhtpdOnpD4oJiCtNxI by quarterswede@noc.social
2024-05-15T01:10:29Z
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@stux GREAT question.
(DIR) Post #AhxC7M30nZA8JwZ4aG by justincroser@fosstodon.org
2024-05-16T16:06:15Z
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@stux no way! Especially how much privilege the Google assistant has on the system image if a rogue actor uses the AI to advantage or there's an error. Big issues...
(DIR) Post #Ai2yKfKwA08dV2A5Lc by hcj@fosstodon.org
2024-05-19T08:42:50Z
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@stux Yes as it can make the mobile experience better for everyone
(DIR) Post #Ai3IaMveMlOa7p6CmG by podfeet@chaos.social
2024-05-19T14:47:22Z
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@stux I have to wonder if the results would have been different if the question had been, “Do you want your phone/mobile device to be smarter?” Or “Do you want your Phone to help you edit photos more quickly, like removing phone lines, or erasing pimples on teenagers, or whitening someone’s teeth?” Or, “Do you wish your phone’s smart assistant could hold two thoughts at the same time to better help you do things?”