Post AhoyeD0uSDglEgfqK0 by wtrmt@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AhomPrLn0B7MXopc8G by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T14:40:52Z
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I still say Trump won't pick a VP. From what I've seen he wouldn't need to pick one legally unless he is elected... I don't see anything about voters getting to know who it would be before the election... or am I misunderstanding these rules. There is simply no benefit to picking a VP. Too many forces want Trump gone so having a named successor is dangerous for him.When he dies the world ends as far as he cares, why would he plan for that?
(DIR) Post #AhomarrxPg57L57vxQ by RenegadeSci@c.im
2024-05-12T14:43:02Z
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@futurebird Interesting, but then it would go to Johnston if he wins. I think he "keeps it in the family" because he 1) sees them as an extension of himself and 2) he controls them.
(DIR) Post #AhomcuptM0tH7S8Zs0 by codefolio@ruby.social
2024-05-12T14:43:09Z
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@futurebird Mostly a VP pick is to attract one group of voters or another - Biden was very much to lock down Ohio, for instance, and to a lesser extent other Midwestern states.But yeah, hard to tell if he cares about that.
(DIR) Post #AhompmM2CRAIZwJ07c by Affekt@hachyderm.io
2024-05-12T14:45:28Z
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@futurebird 12th Amendment stipulates how the VP is elected. I suppose he could not pick one but then the electors still have to vote for one. That would be an interesting turn of events. Would individuals start running for VP? Either that or no votes are cast for VP and you end up with the senate picking.
(DIR) Post #Ahomuv6p4rXdB8drCS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T14:46:41Z
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@Affekt He could name a place-holder flunky just before the vote. But I hate to think of it coming to that.
(DIR) Post #AhomygjAUPetjXNGoi by AndyGER@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T14:46:39Z
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@futurebird I wonder if then picks that person who pays him the most ...
(DIR) Post #Ahon4HnQ64F09D247U by Affekt@hachyderm.io
2024-05-12T14:48:20Z
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@futurebird yeah, the whole thing is super sketchy.
(DIR) Post #Ahon9WpRdJyCDbTltg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T14:49:20Z
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@AndyGER No, I think he will pick someone who he perceives to be the most loyal. A total subservient who can never ever aspire to the contingency of that office. Normally money would do it. But I think loyalty will matter more. And someone who WON'T make anyone say "well what if we just had the VP as our president?"They have to be the kind of person no one would imagine in that office. (Though, for me, that was Trump from day one... so shows what I know about THAT)
(DIR) Post #AhonITuFrsaZlEzwwq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T14:50:46Z
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@Affekt We will also need to ask "which group of electors are we talking about?" I expect there will be two or maybe even three if the brain worm doesn't wake up in Robbie's head and he gets busy.
(DIR) Post #AhonfouzubxtaZTTV2 by Osteopenia_Powers@newsie.social
2024-05-12T14:54:42Z
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@futurebird I agree that’s the kind of stunt he would pull, but VP is an elected office. You have to get on the ballot. State laws apply. Also the 12th Amendment says that if no candidate for VP gets a majority vote of the electors than the Senate chooses by simple majority.
(DIR) Post #AhonvoqLxTg9zQvlz6 by philip_cardella@historians.social
2024-05-12T14:57:52Z
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@futurebird @AndyGER these are good points
(DIR) Post #AhooLUixNrhX7ViLTs by Osteopenia_Powers@newsie.social
2024-05-12T15:02:42Z
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@futurebird @AndyGER Don Jr. then?
(DIR) Post #AhopNxMTytfgTGwKsC by llewelly@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T15:14:17Z
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@futurebird you make a plausible argument, and it may work out that way, but it's just as easy to make a plausible argument that some industry, say, big oil, will muster enough internal co-operation to have a bunch of business representatives go to trump and offer huge campaign donation in exchange for him picking their chosen stooge as VP. And it's possible he's trying to provoke a bidding war between all the interests that want their chosen stooge as VP.
(DIR) Post #Ahor2hN6R76shqDmDY by pelha@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T15:32:53Z
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@futurebird @AndyGER otoh, wasn't pence chosen by the federalist society and handed to trump? I would guess the same will happen this time.
(DIR) Post #AhorH64XOfrfMrP3lA by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T15:35:29Z
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@pelha @AndyGERMaybe... but Trump regards choosing Pence as a mistake. Pence was not loyal enough when it mattered most. He won't make that mistake again. If there is a VP before voting starts it will be one that would have NOT certified the election if put in Pence's place. And when searching for a man with less respect for the will of the people than someone like Pence? I shudder to imagine what you get.
(DIR) Post #AhorcGrqSIsCviYxlY by paninid@mastodon.world
2024-05-12T15:38:07Z
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@futurebird @pelha @AndyGER You get Kristi Noem
(DIR) Post #AhorlwNRUd40HAx9g8 by not2b@sfba.social
2024-05-12T15:41:05Z
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@futurebird @pelha @AndyGER The current VP, Kamala Harris, will be presiding over the January 2025 ceremony, fortunately.
(DIR) Post #Ahorr5ppkwJn3bgpii by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T15:41:49Z
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@not2b @pelha @AndyGER Oh I'm thinking of the third and fourth terms of Trump. Though maybe there will only be one name on the ballot by then.
(DIR) Post #AhosFgoTvKMgh1mmps by lightninhopkins@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T15:46:27Z
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@futurebird @pelha @AndyGER It's unlikely that the choice will be a man.
(DIR) Post #Ahosbp5Fr304iMBYSe by futurebird@sauropods.win
2024-05-12T15:50:28Z
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@lightninhopkins @pelha @AndyGER Is that going to do anything? Maybe for a few people? He might pick a black guy ... it's hilarious that it's the Republicans who do the exact kind of cynical "DEI" they accuse everyone else of doing ... and with them you really do get less qualified people... since that's how they think it really works.
(DIR) Post #Ahot4qXTWVVZcqDziC by lightninhopkins@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T15:55:38Z
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@futurebird @pelha @AndyGER Is "less qualified" really right? Seems like they get grifters who are perfectly qualified.
(DIR) Post #Ahovq4Mu7gtU2GvS6a by steveorama@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T16:26:36Z
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@futurebird surprise, it’s Dick Cheney
(DIR) Post #AhowQhdPbqUGF77Cd6 by MennoWolff@ohai.social
2024-05-12T16:33:15Z
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@futurebird Hmm interesting. But I do think that there still is the general voter to take into consideration. Would they vote for Trump, knowing there's a reasonable chance he might either croak or otherwise leave office, if they don't know who would be in charge if he does?With Trump (and tbf, all politics) it's about gaming the system: will this decision increase our decrease my electability.
(DIR) Post #AhowpK808xg6ZtABAe by davidpmaurer@mastodon.sdf.org
2024-05-12T16:37:37Z
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@futurebird his funders will require one because they need a plan b, and one who will follow their edicts more closely than he does. but you may be correct about how late we may learn that choice.
(DIR) Post #Ahoxq0ttDUyfBjSIKG by jmjm@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T16:49:03Z
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@futurebird @pelha @AndyGER 3 words: Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
(DIR) Post #AhoyPjeCq9Xw6W9Xto by TheDailyBurble@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T16:55:09Z
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@futurebird That last line applies to many in power.
(DIR) Post #AhoyeD0uSDglEgfqK0 by wtrmt@mastodon.social
2024-05-12T16:57:55Z
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@futurebird he will gamify the whole VP thing: “The Bachelor” show with rich sycophants with the final date set after the election. Each contestant will pay an increasing amount to be in each episode.The final show will be bonkers.#theCircleIsComplete
(DIR) Post #AhpPeFVNt8Gdj3AiUC by chrisU@mstdn.social
2024-05-12T22:00:09Z
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@futurebird @AndyGER That reminds me of the joke that Dan Quayle was Bush snr’slife insurance policy🤪