Post AhmZBeLuqNbOSQrgDw by rauder@norcal.social
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(DIR) Post #Ahh4XueCs5PEzskx7I by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-08T21:26:38Z
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For communist, elections are not a realistic pathway to real systemic change. At best, elections can be used as an opportunity to raise awareness about communist ideals and advocate for our demands within the limited space available. We can use elections to highlight important issues and push them into public discourse, effectively influencing mainstream political agendas and mobilizing support for our causes.
(DIR) Post #Ahh5Kzdj6C7Sfaw2LI by rauder@norcal.social
2024-05-08T21:35:26Z
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@Radical_EgoCom l’ll bite. Why is it you feel elections can’t lead to change, and that it is impossible for communists to win them?An inability to win elections seems like more of an ideological problem than an ‘ism problem.
(DIR) Post #Ahh6oiNNwtADlm1mvQ by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-08T21:52:04Z
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@rauder I believe that elections, in their current form, often fail to bring about meaningful change because they are embedded within a system that serves the interests of the ruling elite. The electoral process is heavily influenced by corporate money and media manipulation, making it difficult for alternative voices like those of communists to gain traction.
(DIR) Post #Ahh6prODvF1O0vxxaa by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-08T21:52:17Z
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@rauder Despite the electoral system being designed to maintain the status quo and protect the interests of the capitalist class, I do not discount the importance of participating in elections, as electoral politics can be used to raise awareness about communist principles and advocate for social and economic justice.
(DIR) Post #Ahh7Ao2VZcUhhknSaW by rauder@norcal.social
2024-05-08T21:56:02Z
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@Radical_EgoCom Some quick counter examples:1) Unions win elections. They make huge improvements and have just about all the money and power arrayed against them.2) Native tribes in the U.S. have elections, and many of them are effectively ‘communist’ 3) Co-ops…Doesn’t seem like winning elections is incompatible with a more communal orientation. Just that ‘communism’ is fundamentally broken.
(DIR) Post #Ahh7cRQrDio1hKMarg by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-08T22:01:03Z
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@rauder You haven't shown that communism is fundamentally broken at all. All of the election wins that you presented as examples fall within the capitalist framework and can exist without threatening the existence of capitalism. The ideals of communism, abolishing the private ownership of the means of production and collectivizing them, will never be able to be achieved through electoral politics due to it's immense capitalist influence.
(DIR) Post #Ahh7dv9gCFjKAh2ArY by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-08T22:01:19Z
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@rauder Capitalists will never allow Communists to abolish their power through elections.
(DIR) Post #AhhPFlUsFhH2RTZxBI by ceartas@mastodon.world
2024-05-09T01:18:38Z
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@Radical_EgoCom Every communist authoritarian has rushed to end elections. There’s ALWAYS a strongman.We voted on shit back at the commune in Taos. We voted on shit in our artist collective in Hollywood (c. 2002). I was nominally the leader, because the lease was in my name, but goddammit, I was sometimes voted down and accepted it.Probably why I would describe myself as a commune-ist, not a communist.
(DIR) Post #AhhPvyaLypdHCJGmYK by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-09T01:26:17Z
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@ceartas I don't know why you wouldn't just call yourself a communist and oppose the authoritarianism that's associated with authoritarian communism. Libertarian Communism is still an option.
(DIR) Post #AhiDdaAwzXoxzIoIjY by rauder@norcal.social
2024-05-09T10:43:11Z
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@Radical_EgoCom So, I’ll focus on 2 points:1) ‘Communists’ can win elections if people wanted them to,2) Why (not) communism?(Let me know if you want something different.I am assuming you are well-intentioned, relatively intelligent and well-informed for a human.Doing this for fun: please let me know if you want to tap out.)Using methods Socratic…. Let’s dance
(DIR) Post #AhiFrUE66ibBV02Xg0 by rauder@norcal.social
2024-05-09T10:47:59Z
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@Radical_EgoCom 2) Why Communism?What is the desirability of communism?You are advocating for the Marxist-Leninist approach, that was developed in response to the excesses of uncontrolled, hyper-rich capitalists?
(DIR) Post #AhiFrcAqYgkg9Ea3ii by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-09T11:08:08Z
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@rauder I know that Communists could win elections if there was popular support for them, but the likelihood of that happening in the midst of capitalists influence on the electoral process is so low that it isn't something to realistically expect.
(DIR) Post #AhiFsXWnJlB01oHtLM by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-09T11:08:19Z
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@rauder I desire communism because of its advocacy of collective ownership of the means of production and resources, which I see as far more beneficial for society as a whole than capitalism's private ownership, along with its abolition of wagedom.
(DIR) Post #AhiFvFrrQzqm7nR5VI by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-09T11:08:48Z
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@rauder I don't advocate for a Marxist-Leninist approach to the creation of communism. I advocate for a Libertarian Communist Platformist approach, which centers on voluntary participation and ideological unity(END)
(DIR) Post #AhkXFaofLSqoQL936u by lonerfanatic@mastodon.social
2024-05-10T13:32:22Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @rauder did you finally get someone to shut up or did you block them?
(DIR) Post #AhkXOqIx82Xn4CipN2 by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-10T13:34:01Z
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@lonerfanatic @rauder I haven't blocked them, so maybe they just decided not to respond, or possibly they just haven't gotten to responding yet.
(DIR) Post #Ahksci4ybb9KeDdeHg by ceartas@mastodon.world
2024-05-10T17:31:46Z
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@Radical_EgoCom Disillusionment, I guess. I came of age in the 60s and have left some skin on the pavement. History aside, I have contemporaneously witnessed communism/socialism co-opted by strongmen from Castro to Maduro. Even last week, I was stunned by the mere existence of a Vietnamese billionaire. I’m an old hippie tryna do what I can to make the world less shitty, by growing and giving food and weed away. I think some form of Collectivism might save the planet. One can hope, at least.
(DIR) Post #AhmZBeLuqNbOSQrgDw by rauder@norcal.social
2024-05-11T13:03:29Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @lonerfanatic Been busy 😀