Post AhexYIH1wSD8HFEM7M by triskelion@floss.social
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 (DIR) Post #AhexYIH1wSD8HFEM7M by triskelion@floss.social
       2024-05-07T19:43:48Z
       
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       @elijah cc: @protonprivacy
       
 (DIR) Post #AhexYIvnUsowJgIuf2 by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-07T20:58:48Z
       
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       @triskelion @elijah More on this here: https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1787835466869244377
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiSSs3BgxdZYJWtf6 by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-09T13:29:19Z
       
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       @elijah The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiSnwor9lloQLsPHU by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-09T13:33:09Z
       
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       @elijah IP addresses are not logged by default, and you can see when they are in our Privacy Policy: https://proton.me/legal/privacy Nothing has been reengineered - this is how it's always worked, and we have been transparent about it since we started in 2014: https://proton.me/blog/protonmail-threat-model You may be referring to Proton VPN, which is a completely no-logs service: https://protonvpn.com/blog/transparency-report
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiSw28hGEKHEy0pGK by nicoduck@chaos.social
       2024-05-08T19:37:16Z
       
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       @elijah I think they were forced by a swiss court to re-engineer their software to enable logging
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiSw3GB5tu8iSWJYu by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-09T13:34:35Z
       
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       @nicoduck Nothing was reengineered, our threat model remains the same as it was in 2014: https://proton.me/blog/protonmail-threat-model
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiT4DUWwC2clV7vBQ by justincroser@fosstodon.org
       2024-05-07T12:05:09Z
       
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       @elijah someone asked me awhile back if Proton was a honeypot, I told them "wait and see" it is starting to slowly look that way.But I ask now, what alternative do we have to apple, amazon, Google and Microsoft? Am I happy with proton? Yes, do I use any big tech? No, I however don't do anything illegal it's more privacy respecting than the aforementioned and I keep my CCTV system away from big tech and store old footage elsewhere.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiT4ESnK8FNmPK37I by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-09T13:36:01Z
       
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       @justincroser The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiTDfQuQ9Ks1xwItc by theothersparrow@mastodon.social
       2024-05-07T17:43:36Z
       
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       Eeeeeyikes.Just when I switched to Proton.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhiTDgInBoRAj59Ksq by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-09T13:37:48Z
       
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       @theothersparrow The name/address of the terrorism suspect was actually given to police by Apple, not Proton. The terror suspect added their real-life Apple email as an optional recovery address in Proton Mail. Proton can't decrypt data, but in terror cases Swiss courts can obtain recovery email.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahk5Wvl7w4iPaEy7H6 by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-10T08:21:46Z
       
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       @elijah Note that, in this case, no IP addresses have been shared (and we didn't have any to share, because IP addresses are not logged by default, as explained above). Regarding the definition of service abuse, it's laid out in our Terms of Service: https://proton.me/legal/terms
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahk6PTE5inob19WUK0 by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-10T08:31:32Z
       
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       @hipsterelectron It's never arbitrary, there's legislation that limits this. Also, gag orders are not legal in Switzerland.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhmqtrNxRnWmqCUF1s by protonprivacy@mastodon.social
       2024-05-11T16:21:58Z
       
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       @elijah Swiss jurisdiction remains superior when it comes to privacy protection, as we have discussed with our community e.g. here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10y49ln/comment/j7w6kx4/ and here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10y49ln/comment/j7w7pbh/Email privacy in particular, is better protected  since our court victory in 2021: https://proton.me/blog/court-strengthens-email-privacy Login IP addresses are simply not logged by default, and, no, they have not been logged in this particular case either.