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 (DIR) Post #AhbjUFjxRBhgQf3nfM by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T07:37:05Z
       
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       I will probably delete this toot later.  I have seen AI-generated images containing the same elements (e.g. an AI-generated image with the same amount of cats, two small, and one large white cat with intricate golden patterns, a lotus flower, and a remaining coin at the top) & the same colors in my artwork. I especially mean the right picture in the three-pictured layout.How should I feel about such situations?#art #mastoart #fediart
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbjt3oku1OUgv8Lfk by TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2024-05-06T07:41:34Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I would FEEL resigned and sad, but not very surprised. What you can DO about it - basically nothing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbkWtDbjHJHOykYgy by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T07:48:47Z
       
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       In this second example, someone uploaded my Disco Dingo artwork directly into an AI tool and changed the main character from a Dingo to a cat into a woman. By the way, this AI tool also allows further edits of at least 30 AI-generated image versions based on my original.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbkZ9RGOTQ2HsDRPk by aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2024-05-06T07:49:10Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I'd feel pretty depressed about it if it were me
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbkkKGaTbeD3RYCUC by concepcion@masto.es
       2024-05-06T07:51:11Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I'd feel the urge to burn things. Wait, actually, I want to burn things, and it's not my work :blobcatknife:
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbksynleSfd5ZCGcS by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T07:52:47Z
       
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       @TomF That describes it pretty well. Also pretty sad that nobody will know the original artwork. At least then there could be some kind of positive outcome, maybe.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbl3Y6BGzaZSLqiky by concepcion@masto.es
       2024-05-06T07:54:40Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Are there something that you can do? The plagiarism/copy is so evident!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblH3OCFMKYGbiQXg by NexCarter@chaos.social
       2024-05-06T07:57:06Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritterYou know... On the one hand I can understand that people do the later. I often looked to that DJ Dingo and thought: it would be so cool to have it with a cat *dreams *On the other it's "Übergriffig" to take your art and just modify it and republish it :/Dunno... It's hard I guess.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblSCYiUiKFtKx5NI by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T07:59:08Z
       
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       @dequbed  Thank you, nadja πŸ’š, well put . Yes, I am also utterly confused when I see such images.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblaR3AV5iX9T7be4 by Sylvhem@eldritch.cafe
       2024-05-06T08:00:37Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Urgh. I’m sorry this happened to you :/.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblgK7NBexPOCtcNE by nfg@wombats.club
       2024-05-06T07:43:31.701Z
       
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       @TomF@mastodon.gamedev.place @sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social what he said. It's sad, more than anything, IMO.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblgLdJYO6M5Yqdnc by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:01:40Z
       
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       @nfg Yes, takes the fun a bit away from posting new art online. It is already difficult to show to a crowd what you have been working on for weeks because you looked at it for so long. Seeing someone generate this pretty quickly, is sad. Good for them, though, I guess.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhblqWUc254OfId6LA by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:03:31Z
       
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       @aeva Thank you for letting me know πŸ’š, aeva. I am trying to push it away as good as possible but then I see a new variation...
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbm2wo41a9LkbeVYu by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:05:45Z
       
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       @concepcion In our imagination, this is fine πŸ”₯ (for a short while) . Thank you πŸ’š .
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbmBAsdaAqDiTiMUq by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:07:16Z
       
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       @concepcion Thank you for the offer. I will have to see what can be done here first. Yes, it is pretty obvious. It is also a commercial page.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbmSzjHmOvsLSpzpg by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:10:29Z
       
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       @NexCarter Heh, yes I've received many commission requests (Huskies, cats) but think it is the Dingo and should stay that way. Otherwise, it would water down the original. It is already pretty difficult to put something original out there, at least in my opinion.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbmX5Gh80z6gLPkX2 by ruisan@masto.es
       2024-05-06T08:11:12Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter have you considered using some of these tools that poison IA if they try to use your work? https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/23/1082189/data-poisoning-artists-fight-generative-ai/
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbmaDLLYtyeax5CiW by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:11:48Z
       
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       @Sylvhem Thank you so much. It probably happens to a lot of artists nowadays. I just hope more people are aware of this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbnIQDJ4VCTFlOzEO by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:19:46Z
       
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       @ruisan Not sure if this will help I can tell you that I have done so many things to prevent copyright infringements. E.g. during the most difficult time I added text and it just didn't have a good effect in general. Also, it seems that you as a creator have to change and invest time that makes you tired e.g. after submitting thousands of DMCAs. It is also sad that artists can't post higher-resolution images anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbnUtSGBBSrPzLLMG by blaptist@mastodon.xyz
       2024-05-06T08:21:55Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Not well :-(. I hope the AI wave will collapse soon. Thanks again for all your manificient work!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbnXm67zN7TTBMhDE by CheetahFluff@nyan.network
       2024-05-06T08:17:44.226370Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I'd be kinda angry that someone would do something like that and ruin the thought and composition, but also glad someone thought it was good enough to rip off? It's definitely a crappy situation, but... Silver linings, I guess? :blobcatgooglynotlikethis:
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbnXn2cTtuKOajPNo by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:22:29Z
       
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       @CheetahFluff Yeah, and nobody will know who created it in the first place. It is really difficult to create something special and unique. It has never been so difficult to be seen as an artist since the beginning of the internet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbndqqZFFgBw5z5nc by luka@sonomu.club
       2024-05-06T08:23:38Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter what an abomination! so sorry. I hope you can do something.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbnnz9PE5tYaNd0Lo by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:25:29Z
       
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       @blaptist Yes :/. It will probably collapse but remain on the internet. A time machine would be useful to see how everything evolves!
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbnr3cN4dxXJEdosS by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:26:03Z
       
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       @luka Thank you so much, Luka πŸ’š !
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbnzj2UxCw05lzlei by ruisan@masto.es
       2024-05-06T08:27:35Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter it is :-/ legaslation should be made
       
 (DIR) Post #AhboDMF8VS7zRfPIAa by NafiTheBear@bears.town
       2024-05-06T08:30:03Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter you can be angry about it. It is so weird seing it with your art, while yes there is a cat supposedly in your style. The background is so off. I couldn't put the fake one as a desktop and I don't know who would buy that mess, but there are people out there apparently.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhboHJY4SzqgFL9NCK by mihira@bantu.social
       2024-05-06T08:30:46Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I am so sorry for that.I would feel very pissed.First by not giving reference, second to not ask permission to use your art to feed an AI to make a shittier copy of it.But I keep thinking and saying to whoever talks about that topic.An LLM image generator will never surpass the human artist.Everytime you make art you improve. Everytime a machines chew and spit some garbage copy out. It's merely a shadow of whatever the original artist(s) did.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhboXih6k8MQrsCRyi by sofia@chaos.social
       2024-05-06T08:33:43Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter i don't know. i know i love it when i see people use my flag designs, and i'd probably feel similar about my other works if they aren't used in a malicious way. but all that would be a person choosing to use it, they probably do those AI clones opportunistically.also i don't earn any money from what i do, and maybe never will…i would probably wonder if i could make any use the open models, but for me so far it's been unsuccessful except for gimmicks 🀷.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbosyF08V0jANBc9Y by blaptist@mastodon.xyz
       2024-05-06T08:37:33Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Yes, fortunally a time machine for the future is as simple as a big nap πŸ˜ƒ. I hope you keep the pleasure in creation.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbp8e2szQrhAGzfDU by grillaum@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:40:25Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter it's quite disheartening to see that some use other people's art that way. All my support goes to the artists!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbpYmVGAQ8YvOjCM4 by LiNuXsys666@fosstodon.org
       2024-05-06T08:45:07Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I really hope the Automated Incompetence bubble bursts real soon now. It's concerning the impact it's beginning to have on creators, artists, musicians, authors, educators and anywhere else it gets its grubby little tentacles into. I can't see how AI is a net good for most folks, eroding the very foundations of human expression and creativity that we perhaps take for granted.I don't how you should feel, but I hope you keep making great works of art :)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbq99AfMkXteXR5pQ by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:51:44Z
       
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       @NafiTheBear I could, yes, unfortunately, that isn't productive. Visibility has decreased for artists since the flood of AI content. Well, I also saw a more transformed image where this user only kept the colors in the end.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbqUMtTXYjsIJVwjw by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T08:30:42Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter It's beyond obvious your works have been scraped into the training data, if not even used as the base for these.I would feel frustrated. It's the same as any art theft, your work used by someone else to make quick money without permission or compensation.Nothing can be done before new laws are set to prevent this. Dumb that it needs to go that way around.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbqUNNxiD7pormIG8 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:55:30Z
       
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       @Neotheta Yes, it is really strange. It was supposed to be a science project to destroy capitalism. These laws are so far behind that e.g. shop sites like Amazon aren't responsible for offering illegal products.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbqn1c6spJjnVHunw by sebsauvage@framapiaf.org
       2024-05-06T08:58:53Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter 😞
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbqoROKWmaC2FW9Xk by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T08:59:11Z
       
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       @mihira Thank you πŸ’š . So there is still hope. It is indeed a shadow, a very fast one compared to an artist. Not sure how someone still can find art in such a flood of generated images.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbrLLGkJMeGbTetwe by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:05:08Z
       
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       @sofia Yes, it is really good that you can feel about it this way. I admire that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbrPYIBphsw9XLEvo by mihira@bantu.social
       2024-05-06T09:05:53Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Yes, there is gonna be a lot of noise and shitty llm generated images.But in the end, I believe humans will be the filter to curate and recommend art.  And I deeply believe that llm generated content will get stale, boring, repetitive, uninteresting, netflixish. Humans will train the eye to detect and see how fake or soulless these content are and will seek for real human art that makes us feel humans.That is my hope
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbrZqVMyRW3XAPm3E by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:07:45Z
       
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       @blaptist Yes, a nap unfortunately didn't help to get rid of these thoughts. Probably many more ;). I hope so too. It doesn't make it easier to work on a card about self-imposed imprisonment. πŸ˜†
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbrffzey5FGfeMYsq by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:08:48Z
       
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       @grillaum Thank you so much πŸ’š. The artists will appreciate it! πŸ™‚
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbruvIoKf4CUhahQu by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:11:33Z
       
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       @LiNuXsys666 Yes, I am also waiting for the bubble to burst. Some of my friends apparently can take good parts from this AI development. I just hope it cures cancer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsAMaHBKfbS07f1M by CheetahFluff@nyan.network
       2024-05-06T08:57:16.267915Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter it really sucks. A following just means reposted art (which is already ouch) is going to reach people who don't know you or your work, don't care, and who'll feed the work into an ai. For what it's worth, I always appreciate seeing your art on my timeline. It's clear you care and think a lot about what you create, and it's inspirational.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsAMyjiOEgfrZC9A by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:14:18Z
       
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       @CheetahFluff Thank you so much for your kind words. :blobcat: . πŸ’š
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsIxZfXLsqUSwCZc by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:15:54Z
       
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       @mihira That is also my hope. I've heard companies hire illustrators for content to feed their own AI tools. Not sure how to feel about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsesXWw4fPFNOBPs by Varpie@peculiar.florist
       2024-05-06T09:08:44.850Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter They even cropped it to remove the copyright information... Depending on what kind of licensing you have on your images, you can definitely go after them (for instance, a CC BY-ND requires credit to be given and doesn't allow derivatives, so this would not respect it).
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsetHy9PoVZP7Gng by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:19:46Z
       
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       @Varpie Yes, I am used to cropping by now. I have three older more abstract artworks with a CC BY-ND license and nobody has given credit so far. CC licenses are also not flexible. Once you've given this license it can never be changed. I understand why but you have to be sure about your licensing decision.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbsxSeRPeh2SPTy7s by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:23:13Z
       
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       @Varpie That said, it is great that CC license options exist and people put a lot of work into it. Much appreciated.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbt5kPJHS01qKM8u0 by mihira@bantu.social
       2024-05-06T09:24:42Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter In my eyes it will just make the LLM generated images more of a shadow of the style of the illustrators that are feeding it.Not so much different than stealing art from everyone to feed LLM models in the end.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbtY3RS6VVGzBr8Oe by Blaveur@piaille.fr
       2024-05-06T09:29:49Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I can't imagine people can see thoses ia soulless awefull copypasta and find it satisfaying comparing to your awesome works.If their is a commercial using may be somes lawyers on mastodon can help you, or give advises to stop this ugly plagiarisms.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbta5IcAXIjKGgr7A by AngelicAura@pol.social
       2024-05-06T09:30:11Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter LLM lovers really think they should have the right to steal every bit of data to feed to their regurgitation algorithms. It's disgusting, and doubly so when it's done commercially.I would love to see that whole business crash down, and at least hope you can do something about such blatant disrespect.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbtmWSX0yLf2IGA76 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:32:28Z
       
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       @mihira Yes, creepy fast shadows. They intimidate me as someone who needs a lot of time to finish something. Here printer manufacturers have to pay a fee with every sold device. If you are a member of "Bild and Kunst" you will receive a small payout every year for private copies. It is almost nothing but a thoughtful direction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbuAj6RenY7CSTDZw by Chancerubbage@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:36:50Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I believe some of those promoting alt text for accessibility are actually merely wanting the alt text to aid in feeding the training of their ai graphics engines
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbuEw53LgW8bipI92 by Varpie@peculiar.florist
       2024-05-06T09:27:59.605Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Yes, of course, the CC licenses aren't made for everything, I was just giving an example in case you were not aware. Licensing is something a surprising amount of people don't know as well as they should (and I don't know much about art licenses other than CC, licenses for code aren't the same).
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbuExJyjg3CSIoj32 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:37:33Z
       
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       @Varpie Thank you. :) I started with CC licenses in the beginning but then it shifted because I realized that I would not be good for anything else than art. Without a basic income or very rich relatives, you won't get far. It is sad to say but the copyright law brought me this far at least. Without this awkward support system, many artworks wouldn't exist.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbuNB1recatHoGScS by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:39:05Z
       
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       @Blaveur Thank you so much for your support. I've been working with a company for a few years now to help against commercial use, but it is often not as easy as it looks.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbucaGm5oxtubaLwm by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:41:52Z
       
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       @AngelicAura Many thanks for your support! πŸ’š In other ways LLM might be helpful, but here it is difficult to find something positive. It could be some kind of adoration from their perspective but if they share it on the internet then it goes very far and very likely in commercial directions.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbuhdnCQDsgHoAARU by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:42:46Z
       
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       @Chancerubbage Oh, now you are talking about a fear that I have had for a few weeks now.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbun4g5tFR97MQkee by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T09:43:46Z
       
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       @Chancerubbage I will probably not stop adding alt text but it probably won't explain in all details how it looks. Which is pretty sad.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbwFcTRvl3xzrgvMe by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:00:04Z
       
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       @waterfeature In my experience such alterations damage the artwork. It looks uglier to the viewer, possible clients, and especially to the people who love your work. I've already scaled the images down, which has so far the best effect when you want to protect the artwork. Of course, there are already upscaling tools that upscale art at least with worse quality.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbwK3cqvIz7MfCohU by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:00:55Z
       
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       @waterfeature Also, thank you so much for your kind words. πŸ’š It means a lot!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbwLg0NiNDwgaz1G4 by sofia@chaos.social
       2024-05-06T10:01:12Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter hah thanks πŸ˜…. i really didn't want to invalidate you feelings or anything. i can imagine that it's quite weird.i just hope that somehow these things become more like tools and less black-boxy. training text-to-image and image-to-image are kindof the low-hanging fruit, but i feel there has to be way more interactive and steerable ways to interact with these sorts of models that could be way more helpful for artists.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbx2JgcZSR5uy4ZXM by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:08:56Z
       
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       @sofia πŸ™‚  I am open to new perspectives and to looking for ways to see this development more positively. Hopefully, they will do more good in the end for tools. And by the way, if they are so intelligent e.g. the artist's names behind a generated image should appear automatically. Wouldn't that be something?!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbxgECOOPrETvxsXI by sofia@chaos.social
       2024-05-06T10:10:56Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter well, something the last 10 years told me that good technologies don't just happen by themselves. but there's probably good lessons to be learned from Godot and Blender how to do something like that community-wise.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbxgFAemM3zUqA0TA by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:16:07Z
       
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       @sofia Blender πŸ’š Godot πŸ’š . This is so true and may forget that these open-source tools can only exist because commercial companies support them financially. It is a sad fact, but unfortunately the truth.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhbxhmUSNrLh7l9f1M by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:16:25Z
       
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       @sofia Blender πŸ’š Godot πŸ’š . This is so true and many may forget that these open-source tools can only exist because commercial companies support them financially. It is a sad fact, but unfortunately the truth.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahbzb4XP5KbKykShDk by faoluin@chitter.xyz
       2024-05-06T10:37:35Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I'd be furious!Are you able to contact the platform owners and request the work be taken down?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc0JSmSJPpcuMfZku by sofia@chaos.social
       2024-05-06T10:45:37Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter yeah, you gotta keep an eye on the opportunities.i think it would be good if they made some attribution training that can assign which picture is likely influenced by which artists, i don't think it will be always work, and it will probably work better for artist with many works and a recognizable style, but still.but also, being able to recognize something is closely related to being able to imitate it for these systems…
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc0aZf1z7JvAaM7zE by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:48:44Z
       
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       @sofia Well, yes and they are probably too afraid it will be removed, etc. when it is a commercial usage. They prefer to hide prompts, maybe also because then nobody else will get the same result.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc0m3RVb3YsipVNlA by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:50:47Z
       
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       @faoluin Yes, it got a bit better now, since I've talked about it. Would have loved to not talk about AI at all. I will see what is possible concerning these platforms. Maybe it at least raised a bit more awareness.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc0yGSl0vMAZuuZIu by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T10:53:00Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I don't think it was actually ever meant to be just a science project  considering the same people were behind both the "science" setup and the big corporation.The loopholes they used makes it all so much more annoying.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc1YwjNL7ow5yAwuu by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T10:59:37Z
       
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       @maia Thank you, Maia πŸ’š. Yes, I've heard about them. Visible artifacts are a big issue. I've already scaled the art down and don't feel well about it. Additional artifacts wouldn't be a good option. I have thousands of artworks already online, which also couldn't be protected by this method anymore. They will invent new filters to change the artifacts. I also refuse that artists always have to do the work and change, while big companies don't have to raise a finger.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc1iqRXZWNlUSYNMW by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:01:25Z
       
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       @Neotheta Indeed, it is difficult to tell. Open AI isn't non-commercial anymore which is so strange.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc20KjmBz3yMvQFHc by NafiTheBear@bears.town
       2024-05-06T11:02:21Z
       
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       @Chancerubbage @sylvia_ritter we still need alt text for accessibility and can't just stop doing that. There are 2 programs now out there who can butcher the images for AI making them unable to read for ai correctly. I'd promote that instead of stopping providing accessibility.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc20LgGgVqpIKmxSC by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:04:35Z
       
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       @NafiTheBear @Chancerubbage Yes, as I mentioned I won't stop adding alt text. These two programs won't work, unfortunately. They will always find a filter or a loophole and what about the artworks which have been online for a long time?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc2CR8sCmm7hwvsWm by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T11:06:45Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter it seems like it was a solid strategy: Use special research rights to scrape copyrighted and illegal content. Then use it to make a thing, release it as open and wash your hands of responsibility with  "now it's out of the bag we can't take it back". Move to corporation mode that's already prepared to make use of the thing before others have and start making a lot of money.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc2hbxi1jOqF5Zkzg by JennyFluff@chitter.xyz
       2024-05-06T11:12:23Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter you're being ripped off by AI plagiarism.I'm sorry :(
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc2pqYBfhbznuZ5eq by JennyFluff@chitter.xyz
       2024-05-06T11:13:51Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter @Varpie too bad "AI" companies found a loophole to use it for scientific training data.It really really sucks.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc3j0wui7UjyyR80u by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:23:51Z
       
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       @Neotheta If you look at big reseller pages you can see who profits the most ;). I can also see people with low income finally being able to create some album art for their songs. So it is not all bad, but rights should be respected. I mean copyright only lasts ~70 years and then it is free to everyone forever. In which profession does that happen and isn't this the least one can do?!
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc3or868HXFGUSAhk by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:24:56Z
       
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       @JennyFluff Thank you, Jenny πŸ’š.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc3xZFtxQdUR4G1q4 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:26:30Z
       
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       @JennyFluff @Varpie Yes, I also saw them advertising their AI tools as "painting", which seems pretty odd. I mean digital painting was already a bit awkward back in the days but calling generating pictures painting is very far-fetched, I think.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc4c88PhG10C963pw by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T11:33:48Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Although nothing has stopped artists and musicans teaming up.The problem I've faced with album art (because it happens to be one of my passions) is that musicans would prefer to not give credit, generated content solves this problem. Or sometimes it's not good enough, even if it's free. But generating content on style of a trendy artist also solves this problem.It just overall feels very off, it's never to help the poor, it's to take away from the poor.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc59W2dpfM7tgJgEC by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:39:52Z
       
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       @Neotheta Yes, I also love to do album art. Recent commissions were unfortunately too creatively unattractive because they wanted it to be based on an AI picture. Nothing fun, at least for me. I have a relative, a musician, who can release music faster because it doesn't take that long or so much money to get album art. In this case, it helped someone with a low income. But it probably doesn't happen often enough. It feels very off and you get the feeling not enough people care about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc5SfHvg5sa4pb9M0 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:43:20Z
       
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       @Neotheta ..or to put it in better words, the people who have the power to change something don't feel enough how necessary some changes are.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc60oDB0Wxhb8ekMK by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T11:49:28Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter Problem is probably not that they don't feel but because the structure benefits them staying in power (and money is power).People do have strenght in numbers but there are so many big issues that demand time and attention currently that most are too tired and it's exactly the momemt for even more problems to be started :/
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc64LIkR8Xp5pwmwq by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:50:07Z
       
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       @Neotheta Yes, too many problems at once :(.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc6Pus5NqEXUblO9Q by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T11:54:02Z
       
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       @Neotheta I was just expecting a little bit more from e.g. the EU Digital Services Act. With time maybe things will change. Lots of terrible things are happening right now that need a lot more attention.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc742uwt4qk1yEo2C by Neotheta@toot.finfur.net
       2024-05-06T12:00:11Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter If what's happening in EU is anything similar to US, the ai corps are just paying a lot to their representatives to go and talk all gibberish about how it works. I watched some of the court hearings in US and it was just frustrating derailing of subject for hours, so basically they couldn't come to any conclusion.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc8aynLKu7kkrwqMS by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T12:18:26Z
       
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       @Neotheta *sigh.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ahc8k9mdqkeXRSzolU by guayabito@mastodon.cr
       2024-05-06T12:19:57Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter this is absolutely outrageous! 😑
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcANiW2kXwWPUeydU by toerror@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2024-05-06T12:16:16Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter @Chancerubbage You could include licence info covering the alt text and image for use with AI in the alt text.It would also be pretty damning if generators came to associate your licence text with your style.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcANjrLkoa2ZrdVU8 by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T12:38:26Z
       
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       @toerror @Chancerubbage Yes, good ideas! There are some options. It is tiring to prevent stuff from happening when you only want to create and share.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcAwJxs1RiuOxAzJI by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T12:44:42Z
       
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       @guayabito Thank you for your support πŸ’š, Jorge!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcCfK64Te5dnU2D7g by mmby@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T13:04:02Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter a picture is more than its pixels, I hope you feel better about the whole deal (*gesturing at everything*) soon
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcDFB6zMSgwM4YpgO by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T13:10:26Z
       
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       @mmby Thank you so much πŸ’š .
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcHP3B27JiUSTPog4 by czottmann@norden.social
       2024-05-06T13:57:07Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter I have nothing constructive to add, I'm afraid, but I wanted to say: I absolutely love your style there. That Disco Dingo is so frikken cool!
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcJWzQS9ESp35XdNg by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-06T14:20:57Z
       
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       @czottmann Thank you very much 😎 !
       
 (DIR) Post #AhcbMWQ2wABpMjVeOu by wendy@post.lurk.org
       2024-05-06T17:40:21Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter ooofff - baaaaddd !! :unacceptable:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai19dOJmMzohOmpdHU by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-18T13:57:51Z
       
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       Third finding. Ugly AI version but it seems to sell.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai19vj3nzNcmwV6Qjo by dragfyre@mastodon.sandwich.net
       2024-05-18T14:01:09Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter oh gosh this one is just terrible
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai1BA5AYgXt1WKffVY by sebsauvage@framapiaf.org
       2024-05-18T14:14:52Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter 😀
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai2BjlTzYE5e2xjf7Y by ojensen@hachyderm.io
       2024-05-19T01:56:07Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter You should feel angry. This is plagiarism, pure and simple. I wish things sucked less. I love your work. Please don't let things like this stop you.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai2f2nXl0jKGbvvOYy by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T07:24:32Z
       
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       @ojensen Thank you so much, Oliver! β˜€οΈ
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai3j9m5pObk978P3aa by prsn@mastodon.social
       2024-05-19T19:45:19Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter As someone who has purchased from you before:Everyone who has ever posted something on the public internet has been stolen from, regardless of what model creators say. Your case is an egregious one.Feeding any model should've been only ever opt-in. In a truly just world, the thieves would be punished.But I've also had to unfollow your husband due to too much LLM-spam...Everyone needs to choose their principles: either fully embrace or fully abstain from generative AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai4FsZKWtLkV5xgPL6 by Scofisticated@socel.net
       2024-05-20T01:51:57Z
       
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       @sylvia_ritter :blob_pensive:
       
 (DIR) Post #Ai4lhDLjTJbkGssKGW by sylvia_ritter@mastodon.social
       2024-05-20T07:48:13Z
       
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       @prsn Thank you for your support. Opt-in would have been great. I just hope some laws or support for creators will sort it out in the long run. It is sad to hear these systems let you unfollow people who are curious for a while but bored in the end. Good people should meet :). It is difficult to completely stay away, e.g. I was invited to an exhibition to tell what is real and what is fake to educate and help artists to survive.