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(DIR) Post #AhZdrwPpwuaFP6dpE8 by thor@berserker.town
2024-05-05T07:24:44Z
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The cost of running a Mastodon instance:1 TB of storage (an outrageous amount of storage if you ask me) is what you need for 35 active users, and it'll cost you €14/mo at Scaleway (European cloud provider). On top of that comes €38/mo for the web server, counting in at €52/mo.Can you imagine how expensive it gets for a popular instance?#mastoadmin
(DIR) Post #AhZfGq1KxmRQlOcL56 by barning@norden.social
2024-05-05T07:40:25Z
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@thor This doesn't seem right. We are using 400GB for media storage with around 4K active users.But overall, we pay around €130. So yeah, it's expensive to do it without support.
(DIR) Post #AhZfkpNbuTqLSoKsOO by tfunken@social.lyratris.com
2024-05-05T07:46:54Z
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@thor Tbf, Scaleway isn't really a cheap provider.Many bigger instances are using Hetzner where you get a whole dedicated server for 36 Euros.(Personally would not recommend them, as they also happy to host a lot of of right wing stuff :neocat_sad: )OVH is also providing dedicated servers in this price range.But even looking at other VPS providers you could still get more for your money. (eg. https://www.first-root.com/server/vps/kvm-power-edition/#fndtn-panel-ultra)Same with S3 storageMany bigger instances, are using wasabi as a S3 provider for example.They charge $7 per TB which is half of Scaleway.Or there is also the project https://jortage.com which is a community project between various instances and does some neat de-duplication stuff, to save a lot of storage consumption.Not trying to push you to a different provider, just would like to share cheaper options as I see many smaller instances struggling with costs
(DIR) Post #AhZxapF3MnHTJZiIEa by ian@phpc.social
2024-05-05T11:05:41Z
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@thor The costs don't scale linearly. Storage requirements on the object storage side don't get all that much worse, and you can get $6/TB/mo from a few places (Vultr, Backblaze B2, Wasabi), and while there are definite breakpoints on compute costs "enough to run the Rails app that is Mastodon" scales you up a fair amount.
(DIR) Post #Aha5s6FkAjVEd7mgwy by saustrup@mstdn.dk
2024-05-05T12:38:29Z
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@thor I've got 4 servers at Hetzner for ~350€/month. Admittedly they're also doing other things, but Mastodon is hands down the biggest resource hog, primarily in terms of storage needs, but it isn't subtle with the CPU cycles either.
(DIR) Post #Aha68gxDUB635e1vQu by Tealk@rollenspiel.social
2024-05-05T12:41:29Z
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@thor So if I compare that with the providers that offer it, it would cost me about 57.70/month.I can't calculate it directly because I run a large server and virtualize it.
(DIR) Post #AhaETOukYGM0r5GJIe by thor@berserker.town
2024-05-05T14:14:53Z
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@Tealk I am running all the commands that the manual tells me to run to clean up. But still...
(DIR) Post #AhabztvP5Y1BFG2BEW by jeff@newsie.social
2024-05-05T18:38:26Z
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@thor Yes. A few hundred per month each for Newsie and Journa.host.
(DIR) Post #AhbeDiboLsxjGmXvl2 by picofarad@noauthority.social
2024-05-06T06:38:04Z
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@thor i run half a TB and i have to watch the storage because of all the media postedto put it in perspective i also run a matrix server with 5+ years of heavy usage and it's using a tenth of that in storage.I'm thinking of spinning a new misskey instance up and running cron jobs to progressively make the images use less space, re-encode the videos, etc. you can't just cull images based on age; you end up accidentally deleting all of the pfp.