Post AhWHOptoJlFmKUUwD2 by rob200@hear-me.social
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(DIR) Post #AhV3ssr21Y4CeXEeW0 by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T02:22:41Z
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Capitalists use threats of violence and murder to control us. The only way to combat this is to simply not care about being subjected to violence and murder, and in fact, go one step further and welcome it. Take joy in it. Fetishize it if you have to. If we become no longer afraid of the violence the ruling class threatens us with then there is nothing that can stop us. There's more of us than them. All capitalists have are threats of violence, an ineffective tool when dealing with a masochist.
(DIR) Post #AhVBxlGGTtziBVsIDo by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T03:53:11Z
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@Radical_EgoCom I usually look at it as fines and jail time, and sometimes death and violence is involved but not necessarily threatened vocally.thenI look at, why exactly are capitalist threatening. They want money, and ultimately power after being able to print essentially endless money in spite of humanity. lastlyDo legal things to detract money from them and make them practively worthless to you and your life.While some illegal ways of protesting against capitalism would probably work. Wouldn't you rather defeat capitalists in ways where their threats can't reach you legally, and that you would not have to worry about law inforcers? I do understand that it isn't always possible, but when it is possible, wouldn't that be the preferred way to go about it to avoid getting physically injured when that could had been avoided to achieve the same result? Such a by not paying them a cent, and using other sources that care more about you and the average user and asking others to switch over with you?
(DIR) Post #AhVChqMlpjmHL1tKVs by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T04:01:31Z
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@rob200 Capitalism isn't going to be abolished through legal means due to the very fact that abolishing a system of government is understandably always illegal. I, of course, do always prefer the least painful form of opposition, but actual capitalist abolition won't be peaceful because capitalist will fight to keep their power by any means necessary. A violent struggle is inevitable, so the best thing to do is to develop a tolerance for the incoming pain that capitalists will inflict on us.
(DIR) Post #AhVEQODzPTvJ2maay8 by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T04:20:43Z
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@Radical_EgoCom If there is say a capitalist company like, McDonald's, you, yourself could instead get food at food pantries, which tend to offer free or low cost food and tend to be hosted by volunteers. No money from you to the that corporations.By going there instead of capitalist places while also encouraging others to go there instead, can really really affect the bottom line of that capitalist business and other fast food businesses, without having to go to illegal means to do so. You might say Mcdonalds, or fast food is just a part of capitalism, but that's a part of capitalism that could be legally taken down, if everyone goes elsewhere. But you need collective action, which I believe is possible if are good with communicating to the people.I did acknowledge in my last post, that you can't achieve everything legally that you might advocate for. But, some of the goals you or anyone might have, can be achieved legally, and you can avoid harm to yourself, while not in all cases.First, shift people away from fast food capitalism, then next shift people away from clothing and housing capitalism. Basic needs should be collective.
(DIR) Post #AhVEkQX4XVA7zd4N96 by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T04:24:24Z
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@rob200 I'm not against the use of non-violent forms of protest, and I'm in support of what you've proposed, but when it comes to capitalist abolition, which is the desired end-goal, then violence will inevitably happen.
(DIR) Post #AhVFYJAgBM3ZdrNf9s by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T04:33:24Z
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@Radical_EgoCom It probably will lead to some kind of force and violence for the ultimate erasure of capitalism, as I am sure capitalist would fight to either buy food pantries out or use other means to deal with them as competition.What I proposed isn't aiming to erase it, but to make it so unneeded in peoples lives because people would self host and provide for people, through things like food pantries. That capitalism would basically be destroyed, while not actually destroyed, and if people did come together, this is something that is possible to happen in the current legal framework in your typical capitalist environment.The key is, that you would have to be good with communicating and connecting with people and getting them to make that switch.
(DIR) Post #AhVGAbbi5OGfpAHlsu by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T04:40:20Z
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@Radical_EgoCom in short to what I said, I agree with what you said. ^ but there are some legal methods you could use to strike it down or atleast knee cap it. Which is basically what I was saying, and people could just walk around it and it wouldn't be necessary to there lives.
(DIR) Post #AhVHmNlW67j1qwRx0C by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T04:58:21Z
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@Radical_EgoCom what are some of these threats of violence, or cases where capitalists would use them, which i'm sure some of these are obvious, if you want to talk about some of those.Maybe then I could better understand where you are coming from that violence would absolutely have to get involved on ones path dismantle capitalism. as I had told you how I see it.
(DIR) Post #AhVlfLvLXjeOjubzDk by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T10:33:14Z
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@rob200 Capitalists often threaten workers with job loss or reduced wages if they organize unions or advocate for better working conditions. Additionally, they may use legal or economic coercion to discourage dissent and maintain control over labor. Then, of course, there's also the "good old fashioned" getting cops to beat workers into submission.
(DIR) Post #AhWFU5pKKJINGfmP7Q by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T16:07:21Z
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@Radical_EgoCom advocating for better working condition or wages usually has to do with forcing the old job such as McDonald's to make changes. Workers could try to start their old buisness, or morph themselves and others to ther forms of production that may treat people better naturally.can you go in deph on some of the economic coercion?
(DIR) Post #AhWGIQnoc7Wunm4lZA by Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social
2024-05-03T16:16:27Z
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@rob200 Capitalists can employ various forms of economic coercion against workers, including lowering wages, threatening jobs, reducing hours, setting up restrictive employment contracts like non-compete clauses or mandatory arbitration clauses, withholding benefits like healthcare and sick leave, discouraging or outright opposing workers' efforts to unionize, or threatening to outsource work to countries with lower labor standards.
(DIR) Post #AhWHOptoJlFmKUUwD2 by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T16:28:49Z
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@Radical_EgoCom Yes but this also seems to be limited to what the capitalists might own such as, who ever owns Mcdonalds. All this can be legally avoided by most people by switching to other buisenesses or other places that are not capitalism based or that strive to be as collective as they can.such as librearies, food pantries, public parks (instead of going to Disney Land) or start your own non capotalist version of some of these mentioned. If alot of people made the legal switches the capitalists would have a hard to existing if the people wouldn't want their services but rather services of other more collective options available to them.
(DIR) Post #AhWTeun95tlxaQoWuW by j0nes@puntarella.party
2024-05-03T18:46:07Z
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@Radical_EgoCom for me best would be to have some sort of wearable instant suicide device, if you pronounce a certain password that only you and it know it instantly kills you without pain, i'm not very afraid of dying but i don't like to suffer and even less from some sadistic robocop or the like.
(DIR) Post #AhWU8jafIxQtXACAfA by rob200@hear-me.social
2024-05-03T18:43:48Z
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@Radical_EgoCom I just thought about how nonprofitsbamd volunteer run orgsnizations still have to relie on money to basically exist so ultamately you are right but there are still ways for ordinary people to walk around the eggshells spreaded all over capitalism.To fully dismantle it villiance might be necessary afyer all.