Post AhM3nhLJFWRVPo8VAO by veganpizza69@veganism.social
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 (DIR) Post #AhLzgBXGi2yAvJtMO0 by adam@hax0rbana.social
       2024-04-28T17:23:06Z
       
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       Remember: fossil fuel companies want people to focus on what **uses** #energy so we don't talk about the supply side.They benefit from #environmentalists spending time and energy bickering with one another about whether AI uses too much #electricity, whether to support more #nuclear plants, whether we should mine more #lithium to have grid scale #batteries, and so forth.That doesn't mean we can't talk about these things, but be #mindful where you spend your energy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhM3nhLJFWRVPo8VAO by veganpizza69@veganism.social
       2024-04-28T18:09:15Z
       
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       @adam "be #mindful where you spend your energy."What happens when people complain about energy costs? We need drastic reductions in energy use and, implicitly, in production. How many even know what "Cuba's Special Period" was? The point of understanding the demand side is to get onboard with drastically reducing that to match the drastic reduction in production based on fossil fuels. If production halts without that, what do you think happens - based on contemporary history?
       
 (DIR) Post #AhM4ddlBoYPbMX0dYO by freakazoid@retro.social
       2024-04-28T18:18:39Z
       
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       @adam Exactly. Blame the end user rather than the people digging it out of the ground and the politicians getting paid to let them keep doing that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhM4iy3LnF1FkQ2ng0 by Thebratdragon@mastodon.scot
       2024-04-28T18:19:38Z
       
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       @adam fossil fuel companies hate wind and solar because their only cost is infrastructure, whereas fossil fuels have a constant need to be replaced.
       
 (DIR) Post #AhM4nnkbWaHLF9a46i by Thebratdragon@mastodon.scot
       2024-04-28T18:20:32Z
       
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       @adam no need to mine it, you can get it from seawater, but that costs more than a mine in a thrird world country you don't have to cleanup after.