Post AdffYML08WKnIOgTxI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AdXp2n1JchcUmSNmVs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-05T18:52:06.311951Z
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Been looking for this graph for awhile for @FreeinTX there's no contest between the power cycles of influenza vs covidall that's missing on this graph is the vaccination level & testing level of both, which would make super clear that at the right end of the graph, covid was actually much higher(due to low testing) and could have been even higher to the left (due to vaccination)https://twitter.com/MonkEmma/status/1743201695843127403
(DIR) Post #AdXtoE49HkWk5XaBSy by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-01-05T19:45:31.890968Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX There is ALWAYS a flu spike from November too January, except in 2021. It was a Christmas miracle.
(DIR) Post #AdXtqMJzYvdGGu0hUG by Jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital
2024-01-05T19:45:55.825759Z
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Brought to you by Santa Fauci
(DIR) Post #AdXuLuB5jcjYFitDAu by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-01-05T19:51:37.117599Z
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@Jonaschuzzlewit @FreeinTX @jeffcliff If Fauci ran the showers in Auschwitz, the jews would have bathed in ziclon-C.
(DIR) Post #AdaG4eKxxoKxVZbaQy by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-06T23:04:26.775386Z
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@jeffcliff No, nigger, that's not all that's missing. What's missing is the age breakup. Ffs, ya fuckin' dildo, I've said it 1000 times! If you're over 65 AND have several pre-diagnosed comorbidities, you are at a higher risk of dying from Covid than the flu. The current average age of a covid death is 82, 5 years past life expectancy.However, if you're under 65, no serious comorbidities, its not much current than the flu. And, if you're under 18, and no serious comorbidities, the flu is exponentially more deadly than covid.
(DIR) Post #AdafKi0yYX5gOx0dZw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-07T03:47:26.774176Z
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> What's missing is the age breakup.It's not missing at all. I have linked to and directed you to a more accurate version of it many times by this point. And have discussed what it means, at length. Which you clearly missed.covid *causes* a comorbidity, and increases the chances of hospitalization(which, is something that can be measured and reasoned about, contrary to your continued insistence), and negative outcomes> The current average age of a covid death is 82, 5 years past life expectancy.That is a moving goalpost, of course, given that covid is lowering life expectency> And, if you're under 18, and no serious comorbidities, the flu is exponentially more deadly than covid.This is false, but depends on vaccination status. If you are under 18 and get covid, your life expectency is that of an 70+ year old getting the flu. Which you would know if you had viewed the canadian covid hazard index earlier when they still had flu data
(DIR) Post #AddR0JduALWhlQm1Sq by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T11:51:02.557176Z
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@jeffcliff Covid can't be "lowering life expectancy" if the average age of a covid death is past life expectancy, dum dum.And, covid isn't causing "serious pre-existing comorbidities" unless you get covid bad enough to put you into the ICU, which is 88% over 65, with pre-diagnosed serious comorbidities. > If you are under 18 and get covid, your life expectency is that of an 70+ year old getting the fluAbsolute horseshit. 99.997% survival rate. And, you can't show a single definitive case where a healthy child under 18 has dies from covid.
(DIR) Post #AddXsPicOIPTyG9oY4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T13:08:03.552003Z
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@jeffcliff According to this graph, at it's peak for 2023, a city with a million people would get 100 patients a week put into the hospital. At its peak. Who the fuck gives a shit? And, how many of those are jabbed? What's the age? 88% over 65. How many comorbidities that were diagnosed before getting covid? 2.4, on average. Given that only 2% of Americans, or 30% of Canadians are even roughly up to date (not actually up to date), how did this rate per 100,000 change from the peaks of 2021 when the US had a 65% recipient rate and Canada was over 90% jabbed? Do you believe it's worse now than in 2021?
(DIR) Post #AddZOypPUQXE59QWci by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T13:25:08.387091Z
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> Covid can't be "lowering life expectancy" if the average age of a covid death is past life expectancy, dum dum.and yet, it is.
(DIR) Post #AddZlS1zavIP1Z1k8G by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T13:29:11.623566Z
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> Who the fuck gives a shit? fuck you.> And, how many of those are jabbedThe jab *reduces* hospitalizations.> How many comorbidities that were diagnosedAnd every time you get covid, you get a new comorbidity.>Do you believe it's worse now than in 2021?YES
(DIR) Post #AddaaOnhMhstm1dQvo by YeetLibs@poa.st
2024-01-08T13:38:24.541314Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX Say the line, Jeff!
(DIR) Post #AddeDGlzRebu263vu4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:19:02.798747Z
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@jeffcliff You can't prove the jab reduces "hospitalizations" if 1/3 of the people who get covid will never even know they were sick. Ffs, dummy. That's not even mentioning that "Hospitalizations" is a subjective term and believed can't be compared, anyway.
(DIR) Post #AddeKzvRy1n669AkeO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:20:24.795672Z
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@FreeinTX > You can't prove the jab reduces "hospitalizations" if 1/3 of the people who get covid will never even know they were sick. Sure you can.> That's not even mentioning that "Hospitalizations" is a subjective term and believed can't be compared, anyway.Yes it can.
(DIR) Post #AddePjmPQNFTTFCgNM by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:21:18.520969Z
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@jeffcliff Show the weekly hospital admissions for 2021, let's compare. And, you're own study shows that unless you're put in the ICU for covid (88% are over 65 AND (not or) have more than 1 pre-existing comorbidities that has nothing to do with covid) the extra risk of any malady associated with covid is about that of the flu.
(DIR) Post #AddeT2yuUQ3VtNd3p2 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:21:53.006325Z
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@FreeinTX we are beyond going in circles at this point
(DIR) Post #AddehqxvRkjAyAEEjo by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:24:33.258922Z
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@jeffcliff What utter fuckin' stupidity. And, was it a typo when you suggested the the risk of dying from covid the same as dying in a motorcycle accident or drowning even if you're jabbed?And, that dying in a motorcycle accident includes the actuarial for those who don't even own a motorcycle. Same with drowning, even if you don't own a pool or live near a body of water. Minescule.
(DIR) Post #AddemWeSOvT3PlLmee by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:25:25.194062Z
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@FreeinTX No.The chance of dying from *an entire lifetime* of motorcycle driving is about the chance of dying with *one* covid infection, at 51.
(DIR) Post #AddfCbzdAECJVgh1ea by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T14:30:08.578131Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff not to mention that hospitals got government gibs Everytime they communicated that they had a rona patient on their premises
(DIR) Post #AddfJnd2Il85clYHM8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:31:23.662854Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX covid is *undercounted*, not overcounted. Right now you have to practically beg to be tested in countries like the UK
(DIR) Post #Addg0VPntVwLaXj6Mi by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:39:09.708934Z
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@jeffcliff No you can't. You can't determine a hospitalization rate of you can't accurately determine an infection rate. And if 1/3, 33% of those who get covid will never even know they have covid, don't get tested, certainly don't go to the hospital, much less get hospitalized, they could not possibly be accounted for. Hospitalizations cannot be compared because there is no criteria that determines who is and who isn't hospitalized. It's based solely upon the discretion of the admitting doctor. And that varies with doctor, patient, conditions, changing pre-determinations, etc.
(DIR) Post #Addg5ODY5BAsiHK5pY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:40:01.787742Z
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@FreeinTX > You can't determine a hospitalization rate of you can't accurately determine an infection rate. You can determine an infection rate. We have wastewater data, this isn't 2020.
(DIR) Post #Addg65AAPd1FuF4V1s by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:40:10.184179Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Undercounted (total bullshit), overcounted, either way. Not accurately counted is the point.
(DIR) Post #AddgDbmZX4d36IckaW by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:41:31.824171Z
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@jeffcliff The chance is dying on a motorcycle over one's lifetime is damn near zero of you don't own, or never will own, a motorcycle, fool.
(DIR) Post #AddgEAHxEtvy7TZIDw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:41:35.076586Z
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Yes it is. We should be bothering to count, instead of hiding the problem under the carpet
(DIR) Post #AddgG5CP8JCauit2au by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:41:57.957471Z
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And my chance of dying in a movie theatre from covid is also damn near zero
(DIR) Post #AddgJpB0e7w8Na1Cd6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:42:39.194918Z
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@jeffcliff Wastewater samples are not going to determine an infection rate, ya fuckwit. They aren't taking samples from Wastewater at each individual house.
(DIR) Post #AddgMDu9g7zJeSHLXs by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:43:05.261420Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro So, you admit we don't even bother to count.
(DIR) Post #AddgZuQksbvpJ83M5g by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:45:33.535201Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Also, if it's undercounted, as you suggested, then the survival rates, and hospitalization rates are even lower than reported, because those aren't undercounted. They can be exactly determined.A given number divided by a undercounted number gives lower rates and the undercount is worsened.
(DIR) Post #AddgaKfXKHCigVAWjw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:45:35.289294Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro Some places count some things, some places and people count other things. We should be doing better.I count the best I can from within my apartment. Probably the most valuable data I collect is how many people get covid for the first time on the fediverse that I can see. Which hit ~5/day around new years eve
(DIR) Post #AddgeO7CSHTKWz2fCq by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:46:21.497033Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro > . They can be exactly determined.Unfortunately it's not that simple, because the survival rates depend on accurate death counts and even that is now lost in places like saskatchewan
(DIR) Post #AddgfvI8ajfViPtEwa by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:46:38.425077Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX > and yet it isJeff bringing his math skills to the table.
(DIR) Post #AddggihgsWDuxrDq4m by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:46:47.461788Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro >Some places count some things, some places and people count other things. We should be doing better.Some places hospitalize quickly, some places hospitalize more conservatively. Which is why you can't compare this metric with any confidence.
(DIR) Post #AddgqRU3kwc0SCTy2y by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:48:30.216322Z
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This doesn't require math skills. This requires just not actually ignoring reality
(DIR) Post #Addgr2SEIi8J7EuWpc by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T14:48:39.013659Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX I agree, we should be accurately counting to unearth the massive scam that was this pandemicDont misinterpreted me, I do empathize with those that lost loved ones to the disease, but on the other hand I see nobody giving a fuck about the thousands that die because of the common flu each year without the government mandating lockdowns and economies going to shit
(DIR) Post #AddgtpYai30zz4DYGW by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:49:09.648749Z
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@jeffcliff Yes. So fucking minor, that jabbing yourself twice a year, leaving yourself exposed 6 months out of the year, is fucking stupid.
(DIR) Post #AddgxKUAArPWmAoZzU by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:49:46.919868Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX If the average age of a covid death is 5 years older than the average life expectancy, there must be some magical math you have in your pocket to demonstrate how it's lowering the average life expectancy.
(DIR) Post #Addh0X6dhvpumqL6S8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:50:21.409165Z
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You can measure it, and you can measure the factors involved. You don't just throw up your hands and claim a disease is "just as bad as the flu" based on it
(DIR) Post #Addh5goz0vqqMkXWMK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:51:17.580934Z
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You should scroll up in the thread because there is no contest which is worse, if you just look at the damn chart above
(DIR) Post #Addh6kmnl5K2x61i7c by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T14:51:29.731222Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro A known number divided by an unknown number equals an unknown number. Obviously, an unknown number divided by another unknown number can't be known.
(DIR) Post #AddhEovcF3Sq7DzoHI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:52:56.429287Z
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No, it is not.
(DIR) Post #AddhL94iFXf0KxGbse by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T14:54:04.962625Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro They aren't fully unknown. There's some uncertainty, now more than before, and we can work on that.
(DIR) Post #AddiBpatPU09GXRQTQ by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:03:18.276370Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff the ones that get paid per hospitalization will very likely over count since they have a vested interest in counting as many as possible to make the most profitPeople that were accepted for a myriad of symptoms were counted towards the COVID statistic since, at the time of hospitalization, they also happened to have the rona
(DIR) Post #AddiEqsl4qP886Epma by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:04:09.828873Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX Wrong assumptionIt's not COVID making economies collapseIt's the measures taken by governments that are to blame for that
(DIR) Post #AddiPXhKkCCzoezZWS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:06:04.194486Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX It's not an assumption, it's an easily observable fact.If governments do not act to reduce covid, COVID will destroy economies. THAT is why lockdowns should happen NOW not later
(DIR) Post #AddiXx7a6Xm0ywHOGe by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:07:36.274714Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX they aren't overcounting.They are UNDERcounting. And not every healthcare system has that profit incentive that warps their behaviour like yours does
(DIR) Post #AddiYzSMuKQeVwUtYO by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:07:48.267711Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro The number of infections cannot ever be known. And the uncertainty is over 33%. Making numbers based on numbers of infected are garbage.
(DIR) Post #AddikT7OxwiPh6ACiu by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:09:51.791657Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro Sure it can. Every single person who travels outside of their house could be tested, multiple times a day.
(DIR) Post #AddinYSFa9sh74O3Em by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:10:25.682315Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro > You don't need math> You can measure it:thinkin:
(DIR) Post #Addiqn9POnExYq7LH6 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:10:33.439131Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX so how come that some countries didn't implement any kind of measure didn't have mortality rates way above the rest? The measures taken by the government were ineffective from a health standpoint but fucked up the economy
(DIR) Post #AddisVpEmjgOPGVFBo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:11:19.067638Z
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@thatguyoverthere @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro You do need math for some things. But the disagreement you pointed out before did not.
(DIR) Post #Additm3RvlOh1vkhAe by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:11:33.449839Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX yeah, that's not dystopian and draconic in any wayDo you listen to yourself?
(DIR) Post #AddiwwvnwpKtdGgs6a by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:12:08.094572Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro That wouldn't count the people in the home that got infected. And, just in the US alone, 359 million people tested multiple times a day. Billions of tests, every day, for eternity. That's fuckin' brilliant.
(DIR) Post #AddiyIPRZvMUXECDKK by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:11:54.586693Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX how does an illness destroy an economy? Enlighten me please
(DIR) Post #Addj3DB8SC8rlAqarw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:13:14.603097Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX > so how come that some countries didn't implement any kind of measure didn't have mortality rates way above the rest? Even african countries implemented *some* measures. Even shitholes like alberta and saskatchewan had a substantial portion of the population vaccinated.Whatever you're thinking of when you say that, you're probably thinking of somewhere with an average age of like 20.
(DIR) Post #Addj58nXiAZWkkjRku by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:13:36.195686Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX YES IT IS FUCKING DYSTOPIAN WE ARE LIVING THROUGH A SERIOUS CRISIS AND COVID IS VERY MUCH CAUSING A DYSTOPIA
(DIR) Post #AddjD6hbO5LWZNkg52 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:15:02.382186Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX When your young people can't work because they are disabled you will not have anyone to take care of the disabled people, even, nevermind, to actually run the economyWhen everyone's IQ is dropped to levels of mental retardation from repeated covid brain damage you will not have a complex economy bigger than 'smash ug's house and steal their food'
(DIR) Post #AddjHWyldHsnDxtFsO by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:15:51.240733Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Yes. Every Healthcare system has an incentive to pull in more government money, hire more staff, make a "crisis" seem worse than it is. Who are you trying to fool?
(DIR) Post #AddjUZNW1XmKQhgQd6 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:18:11.439102Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro This is not a manufactured crisisthere have been hundreds if not thousands of job postings here in the healthcare system : there are not enough people to take the jobsThis is not some kind of 'pull in more staff' thing.
(DIR) Post #AddjeLxykB1JjHP6bA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:19:57.803522Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro We can deal with them if we can get that far. That is what being serious about covid looks like. And it's not 'for eternity'. It's until we get the situation under control.
(DIR) Post #AddjgN4LcBO5jELSNc by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:20:20.598012Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro The more staff a hospital can justify, the more gubbermint money the hospital gets and the higher salaries the sypervisers get.They have every reason to overstate the "crisis".
(DIR) Post #AddjgQGri6BPevDzo8 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:20:21.016216Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX Im thinking of Sweden
(DIR) Post #Addjhyzs5NE1eJ1IHo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:20:37.457938Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Sweden is a disaster
(DIR) Post #Addjkpid2PbRk5JWU4 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:21:08.785278Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX your hypothesis is that COVID is worse than the fluMine is that it's slightly worse than the fluUnder this premise we shall never reach common understanding
(DIR) Post #Addjog82dTLX9p2B8a by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:21:50.624376Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX funny how some countries dismantled their healthcare while the crisis was at its peak, makes you think
(DIR) Post #Addjsq43dXSV8B9dkO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:22:29.186905Z
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@transgrammaractivist @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX 1) we are not 'after covid'. Covid is not over2) >Of course not jeff more staff means less pay for the board of a hospital.and they *can't hire* more staff because there aren't enough trained people out there to hire3) well yeah the hospitals here are also getting fucked and that's another problem that is making it worse
(DIR) Post #AddjuK9DH2FOioH3YW by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:22:51.755262Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Ranked 44th in the world. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country
(DIR) Post #Addjv4MxQGZe4l3gMi by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:22:59.301524Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX the crisis is at its peak NOW
(DIR) Post #Addjx6Z2EX6NShg6gS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:23:21.337396Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX yeah if you ignore the data you will never understand what's going on around you
(DIR) Post #AddjygIQrq3EZafEPY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:23:35.082291Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro IT IS NOT OVER YET EITHER
(DIR) Post #Addk1plw5oW6pYy2yG by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:24:13.275576Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX oh really?Funny how the data on economic forecast for Sweden doesn't validate your claims when compared to the rest of European countries
(DIR) Post #Addk4YQV2Ympu1EoWO by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:24:42.736735Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTXYour proof being...?
(DIR) Post #Addk8pe8xU9uT4ex4y by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:25:26.363008Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Yes really.>Funny how the data on economic forecastas if there's a single economic forecast for a country?sweden is fucked if they do not get covid under control, just like the rest of us
(DIR) Post #AddkB18dCflEgixhqK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:25:52.107351Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX i have posted tons of it you should be following more closely
(DIR) Post #AddkBwqCfLTzeMmoAi by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:26:02.649859Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX sure, I'm the one not understanding the data even though i did a comparison of historical flu data compared to covid data and it showed an identical trend in most affected population age range and death probability
(DIR) Post #AddkFColikMO4PfVyq by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:26:38.197962Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX yes, the data from the European commission that i just looked up
(DIR) Post #AddkIjeO6fBMldUohk by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:27:16.532428Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX I stopped following this carnival as soon as it dawned on me that it was not about the health of the people but other factors to push other agenda points
(DIR) Post #AddkJYjSBaXPC7G5BI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:27:24.423435Z
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@transgrammaractivist @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX 1) covid is not endemic2) the policy of 'let er rip' and 'lets ignore the problem' and 'lets pretend we can have open borders and continue with some minor changes like a voluntary vax policy' didn't work, no.3) > This is also bullshit. There plenty but hospitals dont wanna shell out the money for themYeah, and because they treat employees like shit INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LETTING A PANDEMIC RIP IN THE PROVINCE> How could that be jeff when theyve had billions dumped into them over cogid bullshit?4) we have not 'dumped billions' into the healthcare system here5) Almost like its a fucking scamfuck you get out of my thread.
(DIR) Post #AddkPljQlaHPFXD064 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:28:29.957788Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX fuck off. it IS about the health of people which is being trashed by a vascular and immune system damaging virus at large
(DIR) Post #AddkQg5hDzMe2o3ZZo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:28:41.901360Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Then they are wrong
(DIR) Post #AddkUi75eB1bTWdDSS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:29:25.785534Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX > @jeffcliff@shitposter.club@FreeinTX@poa.st sure, I'm the one not understanding the data even though i did a comparison of historical flu data compared to covid data and it showed an identical trend in most affected population age range and death probabilityThen you did it wrong. Because they aren't identical
(DIR) Post #AddkVgfCWTxfGh3IxM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:29:36.376432Z
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@transgrammaractivist @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX YOU are the one sharing lies in this thread. Now fuck off
(DIR) Post #AddkYYJ23JzcDU377A by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:30:08.129487Z
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@Kagekokoro @jeffcliff It's only worse than the flu if you're over 65 with several pre-existing comorbidities.
(DIR) Post #AddkZxHcfnYjyJ3iUq by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:30:22.555681Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro Wrong, as usual
(DIR) Post #Addkbmev92L1bHpQ00 by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:30:42.087165Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro how do you not need math to come to any averages or compare those averages?
(DIR) Post #AddkdmGPaMPaxBJb0q by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:31:04.786390Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro You're own studies show it. Post comparisons broken down by age and comorbidities.
(DIR) Post #AddkhiYFKVesb9XHge by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:31:45.193915Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro No, they show that covid does permanent damage to your internal organs, every time you get it you risk new damage to different organs. And your immune system
(DIR) Post #AddkjGG9UOE5QpoBoO by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:32:04.296027Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro And no, you're own studies show no such thing. If you're old and dying, the risks increase. If not, they don't.
(DIR) Post #Addkn2QAsjHXfgIUvA by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:32:45.197182Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Minor "damage" to an organ isn't a pre-existing comorbidity, fool.
(DIR) Post #AddknoWY2KturLeGWG by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:32:07.202976Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX Dsta does not confirm to your worldview so it must be wrongOkEnough said
(DIR) Post #Addkrz5YhQCmme0ruS by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:33:05.782662Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX No, I'm quite certain I did it right
(DIR) Post #AddktjvO39poKf5mgi by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:33:40.052692Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff it basically killed the elderly and obese, which s normal flu could also have killed if the rona was not around
(DIR) Post #Addkw44E8CT5NmKsSW by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:34:21.500864Z
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@transgrammaractivist @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX >Jeff you dont understand how the world works I understand just fine.> and that youre one of the useful idiots these YOU are the useful idiot in this thread, for people who want to destroy my society with a virus.> people use too engorge themselves on taxpayer bucksRight now this is NOT happening here.>. There was no "let er rip" policyYes there is. That has been the policy where I live for 2 years now.>. The US had some of the most radical and insane policies in an attempt to stop this No they don't. They have open borders, and have allowed 100,000s of illegal immigrants cross into the country, FOR STARTERS> mild diseasecovid is not "mild" any more than HIV is> and everyone who touted its horrible effects were getting paid the whole time. This is not accurate, either.again: you are spreading lies in this thread. Fuck off.
(DIR) Post #Addl0XAVsJ5KnUPJDM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:35:10.767975Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro "oh it's only permanent heart damage, it's minor" fuck off
(DIR) Post #Addl1nZMNnJ3x8dFlw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:35:24.351959Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX There's plenty of obese left
(DIR) Post #Addl8eAvhxIAqRTFCK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:36:37.788926Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX No, you didn't.
(DIR) Post #AddlBwmD0OKDP8Ttcu by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:37:11.927033Z
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@transgrammaractivist @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX AND THEY ARE USING COVID TO GENOCIDE YOU
(DIR) Post #AddlLl1TYnnfqYIfpo by TimeSpent@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:37:38.134492Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro This is actually true. I think over time this will be an undeniable fact. I simply do not agree with your solution.
(DIR) Post #AddlLmIsnZJnopS5bc by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:39:00.685756Z
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@TimeSpent @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Then solve the problem before I get there #finalsolution
(DIR) Post #AddlN3TwPo6XO0EXJI by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:39:15.756056Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro There is no study that's shown covid causes permanent heart damage every time you get it. And, I showed you the study that said 8 out of every 10 flu patients that were serious enough to be admitted to the icu n 2017 suffered heart damage. It's not unusual for old people, with pre-existing comorbidities, who are admitted to the icu from a viral infection to sustain heart damage.
(DIR) Post #AddlSWUhyX96oYCR4S by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:40:15.040249Z
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@jeffcliff @TimeSpent @Kagekokoro Treat covid like the flu. Problem solved.
(DIR) Post #AddlTMuN6MZVNCbfI8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:40:22.425606Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro And we're back to the first post on this thread.
(DIR) Post #AddlUPvhLzFr28j8sq by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:40:32.743571Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent No.
(DIR) Post #AddlcKlORfktKMgLUO by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:42:01.424401Z
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@TimeSpent @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro It isn't true for anyone who is healthy, under 65, and aren't admitted to the ICU for a covid infection.What's going to become clear overtime is that the jab is causing heart damage LIKE THE MANUFACTURERS ADMIT IS HABBENING.
(DIR) Post #AddldvIm58gewH3O7s by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:42:18.673513Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Sure it will.
(DIR) Post #Addm4LQtYASBVnS0C8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:47:04.420879Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent > t isn't true for anyone who is healthy, this is false. Also: covid MAKES people unhealthy>under 65This is false, which @FreeinTX gets wrong over and over again>, and aren't admitted to the ICU for a covid infection.This is false. You can get permanent damage without getting put in the ICU.> What's going to become clear overtime is that the jab is causing heart damageCOVID is what is causing the heart damage
(DIR) Post #AddmEIuJnJbGZixiDY by TimeSpent@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:44:49.278260Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX There has to be some ground between hiding out in your house for the rest of your life and thinking the consequences of a manmade virus are real.
(DIR) Post #AddmEJhErQjR1RqmTA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:48:48.811299Z
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@TimeSpent @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX I do not propose to 'hide in your house the rest of your life'.That is not what I'm about at all.
(DIR) Post #AddmcuRhsXR5wtJPU0 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:53:19.893985Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX tainted data to justify retarded economic destructionSimple as
(DIR) Post #AddmenIXQQcaMKvEw4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:53:37.883202Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX No.It's to AVOID economic destruction
(DIR) Post #AddmkTVTvC7wiPgXyq by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:54:41.895747Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX so to avoid economic destruction we have to continue the measures that made the economy go to shit? Sound Policy from your part
(DIR) Post #AddmofRZTxUEtZr5yy by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:55:26.502158Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX We haven't continued them. The economy is going to shit because our policy is 'let er rip'
(DIR) Post #Addmr6RS4i73CvxdGC by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:55:31.172234Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @TimeSpent you just want everyone to test themselves Multiple times a day, every time they want to leave their houseAwesome problem solving, I bet the COVID test makers love your idea
(DIR) Post #AddmuS8rqmpxNWrjAe by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T15:56:27.780953Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX the economy went to shit when the measures were put in place What we are experiencing now are the consequences of the shitty policies of the past 3 years
(DIR) Post #AddmxajQN3Lmt5Sf5M by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:57:02.762955Z
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@TimeSpent I bet they will.I don't "just" want to rapidly expand testing There's lots more to do. LOTS.
(DIR) Post #Addn1ZMxNV8povqhrE by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T15:57:46.354772Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX The economy is going to shit a LOT more if we DON'T stop covid from wrecking this generation
(DIR) Post #AddnD61kIU10ICQMYy by TimeSpent@poa.st
2024-01-08T15:57:25.297506Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro >for anyoneYou really shouldn't use such definite terms. It has and will continue to do damage to people in all age categories regardless of vax status. Saying it doesn't, is just denying reality.I say this as someone who has never taken the vaccine. Taking a hard side in either direct causes real harm. You can't look for solutions if you ignore the existence of a problem.
(DIR) Post #AddnDqAsiqehPr3JBo by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:00:00.344980Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX you are deranged and delusionalEnjoy wearing a mask for the rest of your life, testing yourself multiple times a day (and of course paying for each test) and getting vaxxed every 3 monthsI shan't partake in that idiocy
(DIR) Post #AddnGlFlTZ6n1PjGQi by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:00:24.005050Z
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@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX I don't have to wear a mask for the rest of my life. I have to wear one for the rest of yours. Big difference.
(DIR) Post #AddnWivRtj6AR5q1D6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:03:25.138100Z
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@TimeSpent @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro If the risk is less than or no different than the flu, the precautions taken should be about that of the flu. Sans economy destroying mandates.
(DIR) Post #AddneKD7fg606IjHeK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:04:46.879861Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent it > If the risk is less than or no different than the flu,it is not
(DIR) Post #Addnh0i2dJSiUGTJtA by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:05:16.609993Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro You needn't bother wearing a mask for me, homo. It makes you look retarded and doesn't benefit anyone.
(DIR) Post #AddnjXVjeHuAnYvD0K by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:05:44.120223Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Yes it is, if you're under 65 or healthy.
(DIR) Post #Addns5WR4zNkbDKFg8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:07:15.449217Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent No, it isn't.
(DIR) Post #AddntAmizxDpD8Shs0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:07:27.855640Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro :KysRope:
(DIR) Post #AddoN7UrmtKlhVOALo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:12:43.966392Z
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@jeffcliff Making the economy revolve around the whims of Branch Covidian hysterics sounds like a great way to further ruin it.@Kagekokoro @TimeSpent
(DIR) Post #AddoSCzwlGMYD7Lw1o by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:13:44.405915Z
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And here's mr. ignores data that makes him feel uncomfortable again with his peanut gallery contribution
(DIR) Post #AddoeApIf4jIwy4uRs by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-01-08T16:15:57.035039Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Did you ever see that video clip that lady made about being asked too leave her job as a nurse and return too being head Hunter job placement recruiter for the oil and gas industry because they were expecting half the industry employees are going too die from the vax, and the oil and gas industry needs to be fully staffed for national security?
(DIR) Post #Addp4IzEwbFxmvBir2 by TimeSpent@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:18:08.545388Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro Jeff is right on this bit, though. It is nothing like our modern flu. Does that make me prone to wanting lockdowns or mandates? Absolutely not but damn would it be nice if people stopped playing sides and allowed conversation.
(DIR) Post #AddpCPLFCV8ZoXLNqa by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:21:56.265674Z
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@jeffcliff When the COVID shit first kicked off, one of my friends wouldn't shut up about The Data. Thing is, The Data was just whatever Fauci said it was. He was into that two weeks to flatten the curve shit, all of it.Later on in 2021, I got my revenge. The State of Arizona commissioned this study to determine whether or not their election was rigged. They found about 250,000 voting anomalies as I recall. I forget the exact number, so don't quote me on it, but the point is, it was significant. Way more than enough to tip an election in that State.Well, these findings were The Data. I matter of factly insisted that the 2020 election was rigged based on The Data. When he tried to contradict me I offered him the opportunity to add more Data. If you didn't add more Data then this report is the beginning and the end of The Data. He didn't add more Data.This, of course, did not persuade him. I didn't really intend for it to, I just wanted to show him what he sounded like. Tell us, Jeff, what is the lesson of this story?@Kagekokoro @TimeSpent
(DIR) Post #AddpMRqyiU6SV4yVfM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:23:57.374721Z
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>?, The Data was just whatever Fauci said it wasNo it isn't. there is 100 countries in the world and *gasp* fauci does not control most of them.The US election isn't decided by voters, it's determined by the electoral college.The lesson of this story is you always try to bring the conversation into being about unrelated topics, though usually 'gendersexual ideology' so this is a slightly new twistbut always one that has virtually nothing to do with the current one ,
(DIR) Post #AddphMS001mDpCGNIe by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:27:32.588548Z
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@jeffcliff The lesson is that if you don't trust the source in the first place then their "Data" is meaningless. He didn't trust the State of Arizona and he didn't trust the LLC they hired to do the research. I think it was called Cyber Ninjas LLC or something like that. He didn't trust the name. So he summarily dismissed their findings on that basis.Is he wrong to do that? Use your answer to this question as a template for if it's wrong for me to summarily dismiss tranny sources, especially on highly politicized topics like COVID-19.@Kagekokoro @TimeSpent
(DIR) Post #AddpjnjFYCIV0QUmeW by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:28:11.527698Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTXYou are so far removed from reality its frightening
(DIR) Post #Addpl2hpLruZkJQEcq by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:28:24.055076Z
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that's you
(DIR) Post #Addpth4j8wi9GYG5jc by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:29:53.924094Z
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@jeffcliff Alternatively you can chill the fuck out@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX
(DIR) Post #AddpwzdWabl7hY6lIO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:30:27.786387Z
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ah yes, we're back to 'tranny sources' and you just not trusting data because it disagrees with youdespite my sources not being 'tranny' at all
(DIR) Post #Addpz7qt10sZlDNIRs by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:30:57.671188Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX Nigger I'm not the one asking for the draconian measures to be put back into ActionI wish for you to actually go out and touch some grass, god knows you desperately need it
(DIR) Post #Addq0xrB9GqlL8O8jQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:31:16.696450Z
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You're in my thread, wasting my time.
(DIR) Post #Addq2bh6WFOjBQSXBo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:31:30.254134Z
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@jeffcliff Answer the question@Kagekokoro @TimeSpent
(DIR) Post #Addq4I92AtXB8AKJA8 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:31:53.620907Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @TimeSpent Can't understand what you are saying Take off your mental mask alreadyIt doesn't protect neither you nor grandma
(DIR) Post #Addq9NcLFr93YHSf4q by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:32:47.743522Z
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:KysRope:
(DIR) Post #AddqAbk6DuVZeLfvii by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:33:02.155548Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @FreeinTX wait So you are actually caging yourself voluntarily already yet telling me you won't?Now I am somewhat confused about your logic
(DIR) Post #AddqBytFe9KnjLbwHo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:33:09.371976Z
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@jeffcliff I showed you many times that COVID numbers are inflated and contrived, that these shutdown policies are motivated by, at best, hysteria. We don't need to go down this path again, now do we?@Kagekokoro @FreeinTX
(DIR) Post #AddqCC6UWEeKiAuCEC by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:33:18.457569Z
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neetzsche does
(DIR) Post #AddqEyH4OPJKgnB4b2 by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:33:26.903098Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @TimeSpent Tranny problems require tranny solutions?
(DIR) Post #AddqHiAuhpOhcvbYbQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:34:18.669095Z
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i am 'caged' because there is a bsl3 airborne pathogen with high community transmission in my community and it is dangerous to even step outside my apartment because of you assholes
(DIR) Post #AddqLZP1GPgrZt2hGq by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:34:57.833192Z
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@Kagekokoro Basically, I'm often dismissive of sources that take trannyism or CRT seriously, which at this point is basically all of academia.@TimeSpent @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AddqNBgWPt6ob805R2 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:35:15.486386Z
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:KysRope:
(DIR) Post #AddqP1x7ZW7izcdx8S by Tony@clew.lol
2024-01-08T16:35:37.377838Z
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I am on day 5 of having covid and I'm basically back to normal now, first 3 days was like a pretty bad cold though. I mean it's not fun, but covid really isn't that bad...my 65 year old mother is on day 3 and she is doing better than I was. I don't understand the fear, it's not that bad.
(DIR) Post #AddqTDO10GWtc2DaVs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:36:23.363111Z
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back to normal ie out of the acute infection periodyou will continue to live with permanent lung, immune system and vascular damage
(DIR) Post #AddqbuIfKpVz1WrQVU by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:37:58.233837Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @FreeinTX Then stay home and enjoy your continuous brain rot (not induced by the Rona but your own stupidity)I'll be going to the gym tonight in your stead
(DIR) Post #AddqhPceJ57FcFphUu by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:38:57.008235Z
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Enjoy your exposure to a heart damaging virus
(DIR) Post #AddqhkjRp0235QAvVg by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:39:01.561528Z
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@Tony @NEETzsche @FreeinTX @jeffcliff I have had the Rona at least once and was completely asymptomaticEven went for a 7km run the day the test said I was positive
(DIR) Post #AddqmYCRqMhZfN1mRk by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:39:53.627675Z
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@jeffcliff @Tony @NEETzsche @FreeinTX over a year has passed since I had the RonaNo problem so farStill go runningStill go to the gymNo deficit experienced in either field
(DIR) Post #AddqqVcpMENSq8Fo4u by Kagekokoro@bae.st
2024-01-08T16:40:20.520281Z
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@jeffcliff @NEETzsche @FreeinTX I will enjoy my exposure to being based and lifting hard thanks
(DIR) Post #AddqqXMEusIUDGVaV6 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:40:34.192839Z
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:KysRope:
(DIR) Post #Addqsihrh0oHzQfGS0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:41:00.629795Z
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@TimeSpent @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro This bullshit crisis has made you prone to giving up your freedoms and Liberties and has you demanding that government, the single most murderous group in the planet, have more authority over your life and the lives of others. And the only people trying to "halt the conversation" is the government that you want to give this authority to. And, of course, you'll just disregard all the lies that they've told to this point so that you'll continue to be enslaved by this government.Kill yourself for the good of humanity.
(DIR) Post #Addr4ntoDEPHZN0sYS by dj@parcero.bond
2024-01-08T16:42:50.870477Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX Your mask sir
(DIR) Post #Addr5W7pmRlmjbuhWa by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-01-08T16:43:18.464934Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @jeffcliff The big tell was last January when the life insurance actuaries of America (LIAA) were screaming about a 40% increase in “all causes mortality.”That increase hasn’t stopped, and it will be painfully evident in the real estate market this spring when tens of thousands of vacant homes inventory floods the market.
(DIR) Post #Addr6CdrhkLab7DsHY by Tony@clew.lol
2024-01-08T16:43:26.270910Z
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Not even to discuss the short and long term effects, but I just think it's pointless to sit inside and hide about something like this. I have covid and now I have long term side affects? Not shit I can do about it now, may as well just live my life 😅
(DIR) Post #AddrFcbEZ3FFi4U1GC by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:45:05.549090Z
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The government here is fighting tooth and nail to do as little as possible about the pandemic. They just want the whole thing to be over, and erased from the public memory. In your country, too "covid is over" according to your executive legislative and judicial branches of your government.YOU are the one siding with a virus against humanity
(DIR) Post #AddrQrOZtUGamevFnk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:47:10.095756Z
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yeahBECUASE COVID IS CAUSING THAT> That increase hasn’t stopped,AND NEITHER HAS COVID
(DIR) Post #AddrcRDl2IEb51NkcS by Jonny@annihilation.social
2024-01-08T16:49:15.182522Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX The illegal aliens can’t qualify for home loans. Lenders hate subprime paper
(DIR) Post #AddrkPsxsuirFsSdQu by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:50:41.887688Z
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that's why enough of them are being fast tracked, so they will qualify
(DIR) Post #Addrr8vtJTpyhi2MO8 by dj@parcero.bond
2024-01-08T16:48:35.162866Z
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@Tony @Kagekokoro @NEETzsche @FreeinTX @jeffcliff There's people who have had covid and don't even know it, because one of the symptoms is having no symptoms. I recommend taking ivermectin, I love that stuff. I take it quarterly just in case after eating sushi and other questionably cooked Asian food. We give it to our cats too, that's what's in their medicine that vets recommend.
(DIR) Post #Addrr9h2UBYF3w60sS by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T16:51:50.606873Z
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>one of the symptoms is having no symptomsClearly the most dangerous virus of our time
(DIR) Post #AddrsVfWGcFNVY1zAe by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:52:09.483978Z
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muted
(DIR) Post #AddryzuIkovt1o2T1U by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:53:17.481898Z
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@jeffcliff @TimeSpent @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro just until we solve all communicable diseases
(DIR) Post #AddsFJ5xBJyJAiGY2y by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:56:15.785045Z
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yeah, just like HIV you might not see anything out of place, at first, while your T-cell count drops
(DIR) Post #AddsH98NBfdyrEH5e4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:56:37.143717Z
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No. This is a straw man.
(DIR) Post #AddsRvkPIYyuWdCtfc by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:58:34.177715Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent You're a strawman
(DIR) Post #AddsTp3b90qsM25NKK by haberdasher@poa.st
2024-01-08T16:42:00.982485Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @NEETzsche @FreeinTX Jeff -- I went to the gym this morning. no mask. and twice in the past three weeks did two different men remark to me that they've noticed how much weight I've (supposedly) lost since I joined in Q1 2023.So ... from this anecdote (plus nine months of regular gym attendance), the healthier option for me would NOT be to "stay the fuck home".
(DIR) Post #AddsU2pvucEv5hneyG by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T16:58:54.637137Z
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:KysRope:
(DIR) Post #AddsZ6ukBAf3BYSw40 by Tony@clew.lol
2024-01-08T16:59:51.403372Z
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Didn't they come out with meds that pretty much cure HIV though?
(DIR) Post #Addsm1fWzbQsgKVb3g by thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T17:02:12.070713Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent
(DIR) Post #AddtTMJ68V3Z8rg7do by Tony@clew.lol
2024-01-08T17:10:01.897590Z
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Long Covid:
(DIR) Post #AdduYkvW80HattmnZo by NEETzsche@iddqd.social
2024-01-08T17:22:08.936492Z
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>Long COVIDHave these guys ever considered getting some long bitches instead?
(DIR) Post #Ade3wtMNKB09apvsGW by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T19:07:25.736337Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Yeah, no one is getting jabbed and the problem is nowhere near as serious as itb once was when people were getting jabbed.
(DIR) Post #Ade43JXSuAMCWUBLo8 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T19:08:34.558788Z
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yes it isthe only thing that changed is people had some protection from the jabthat's it
(DIR) Post #Ade4FapASngrblJjYO by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T19:10:48.541324Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent That's not what that bish from the Cleveland Institute said. She, and the CEO of Pfiser have both said that the previous jabs offer "little if any protection" from new variants.Quit making shit up.
(DIR) Post #Ade4O0wfELqkwAq5i4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T19:12:19.916558Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent And that's for the only thing that changed, is it? People caught covid, got over covid, and have natural immunity which is far better than jab immunity.
(DIR) Post #AdeAnUUP7eHJX19V6e by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T20:24:08.789420Z
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The older vax doesn't offer protection from new variants, yes : that's why they keep coming up with boosters you're playing a shell game hereyou can only make that claim in the period where there's a variant (like JN.1) on the loose that only gets to be on the loose when you covidiots allow it to mutate, through mass infection
(DIR) Post #AdeEQr3FTG4If8ucDY by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T21:04:53.704177Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent I ain't playing a shell game, nigger. I'm pointing out that 2% of the US population has taken any of the latest 4 jabs. Yet, covid is not hurting people in anywhere near the numbers it was when people were 60% jabbed with the latest and greatest jabs of the time. The jab doesn't prevent mass infection, it doesn't prevent mass spread. The EUA said it wasnt designed to prevent infection or spread. The jab manufacturers never tested to show that it might prevent infection or spread, and there is plenty of evidence that shows getting jabbed does not prevent infection or spread.And now, this. cam.ac.uk/research/news/researchers-redesign-future-mrna-therapeutics-to-prevent-potentially-harmful-immune-responsesLol! You're killing yourself for no reason.
(DIR) Post #AdeEmYFU3k1yiZysWO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T21:08:47.493303Z
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> Yet, covid is not hurting people in anywhere near the numbers it was Yes it is. The only difference is it's not being tested for.>The jab doesn't prevent mass infection, it doesn't prevent mass spread.It helps reduce both, but it is not enough on its own.> e EUA said it wasnt designed to prevent infection or spread. that is irrelevant. We shouldn't care what the manufacturer says at all what we should care about is what the science actually says it does.> cam ac ukand there's nothing new there, we knew that there's stuff like frame shifting going on and there's a small group of people who have immune responses. No one is saying the vaccine is perfect - there's room for improvement on that. > Lol! You're killing yourself for no reason.No, that's you covidiots
(DIR) Post #AdeFPlEphMy4IXNBVw by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T21:15:54.094593Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent If you go to the hospital with flu like symptoms, they test you. If you don't go to the hospital with flu like symptoms, covid is hurting you. Your own studies showed that unless you have severe covid, there is no damage being done. It does not help reduce infection or spread. It allegedly helps reduce the severity of the covid and length of time that you can spread the virus, which means "slow the spread" not prevent it. You seem confused. This story isn't about frameshifting. And the frameshifting you've tried referring to, regarding the variants frameshifting, isn't about the frameshifting of your DNA mentioned in those articles, either. These are 2, completely separate, but very concerning, recent discoveries (3 - 3.5 years in, of the 10 usually required) that point to the jabs that you've already taken being potentially dangerous and when outright deadly.
(DIR) Post #AdeFWDPHsh0HOnLBLM by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-08T21:17:04.145906Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Show me a comparison between late 2023 and any part of 2021 that shows covid is as dangerous if not more so.
(DIR) Post #AdeGE13DBL91optu0e by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T21:24:57.745324Z
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> Your own studies showed that unless you have severe covid, there is no damage being done. For the nth time that is not what they said.> It does not help reduce infection or spread. Yes it does. > It allegedly helps reduce the severity of the covid and length of time that you can spread the virus, which means "slow the spread" not prevent it.This is incorrect.>These are 2, completely separate, but very concerning, recent discoveries (3 - 3.5 years in, of the 10 usually required)we don't HAVE 10 years. Covid is wrecking us NOW. Unless you want to be locked down for the next 10 years while we study this??> that point to the jabs that you've already taken being potentially dangerous and when outright deadly.potentially. meanwhile covid IS dangerous and outright deadly.You continually miss the context that these vaccines are happening in: a pandemic that is causing megadeaths and which has the capacity to disable most people living
(DIR) Post #AdeGJKAhWDcaZKw1rM by Jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital
2024-01-08T21:25:56.630937Z
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Vaxxed vs unvaxxed. All other covid data is meaningless
(DIR) Post #AdeI2D94aYxzlM8nse by SirVo@noagendasocial.com
2024-01-08T21:45:15Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff bruh, don't argue with Jeff Cliff.The dude is, at best, simply incapable of critical thought. Mid, he's a paid shill. Worst, he does it for free.
(DIR) Post #AdeIFTT1DTL69FnL5k by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-08T21:47:37.221448Z
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You're worst nightmare is right. I do it for free.
(DIR) Post #AdeISO3We7t5891n3w by prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer
2024-01-08T21:49:54.437055Z
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@SirVo @FreeinTX @jeffcliff
(DIR) Post #AdfboZfJx6ajRofHvs by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T13:01:36.308593Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Why would we have to be locked down? The lock downs didn't do shit to stop the spread, dum dum. And, no, the jab does not prevent or reduce infection or spread. It's absolutely laughable you still believe that bullshit. But considering that you still think the sars virus is naturally occurring and that masks help prevent infection, it figures.
(DIR) Post #AdffIx5jidgCeVCJ4i by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:40:42.012337Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent > The lock downs didn't do shit to stop the spread, dum dum. Yes they did. China kept mostly covid free until they gave up: we can know based on how quickly covid spread post-'let er rip' policy.>And, no, the jab does not prevent or reduce infection or spread. Yes it did, and does. > But considering that you still think the sars virus is naturally occurring and that masks help prevent infection, it figures.SARS was naturally occurring, and yes, masks do work.
(DIR) Post #AdffSkvTnwjpol4hV2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:42:26.271448Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent they gave up because border cities kept reinfecting the entire country because it just takes one sick person to make a billion other people sick and you can't shut down all commerce because people need to eat.
(DIR) Post #AdffYML08WKnIOgTxI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:43:27.752582Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent and the border cities kept causing outbreaks because their neighbour countries refused to get with the programsooner or later the problem comes back to *us*
(DIR) Post #Adffgecq1k0oKYyz7Q by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:44:56.514254Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent the point that you're missing is that lockdowns didn't work because they require not a single person to defect. this is in addition to the fact that lockdowns were meant to keep hospitals from overflowing not "stop covid"
(DIR) Post #AdffljJvzx3gL9Ypt2 by Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com
2024-01-09T13:45:55.074551Z
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@Moon @TimeSpent @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX @jeffcliff I dunno I think they work perfectly as-is; those who want to stay inside do, everyone else goes about their day.
(DIR) Post #AdfflsFIoXhW1OSlPs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:45:55.733018Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent >this is in addition to the fact that lockdowns were meant to keep hospitals from overflowing not "stop covid"This isn't true. They may have been justified by some for this reason but the end goal was always to reduce R_0 and to get covid closer to the point where we can extinguish it. As they had done in china and new zealand and australia, for a time.
(DIR) Post #AdffqTQ8Xci2TWiwN6 by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:46:43.544051Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent The only thing that is going to stop COVID is a medical cure for COVID.
(DIR) Post #AdffyreILR0dw1LadM by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:48:16.285377Z
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@Moon @jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent also people didn't listen. like when gay retards protesting in the streets from both political parties. while i was outside hanging with the most important people in my life my family
(DIR) Post #AdffzOukfGmV6cIhMm by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:48:22.226592Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Preventing the spread of disease of the bread and butter work of epidemiology. Prevention is better than a cure, which doesn't have to ever come
(DIR) Post #Adfg0XYC2bvKBDIBYu by threat@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:48:35.143205Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff i was having a dream the other say that you were discussing covid with jeff. and here we are.
(DIR) Post #Adfg1kJa4Lna3c24hM by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:48:46.695687Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Oceania was an exception to that, I concede that point.
(DIR) Post #Adfg7Z0wzsOckN5nHM by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T13:49:51.617254Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent China was never "mostly covid free" and the best that could possibly result from lockdowns is a "slow the spread" scenario. It was never intended to prevent spread. Post the covid hazard index SCREENSHOT of the figures you're talking about. Let's take a look. You can't point to a single chart where you could show where masks are anything but 2% or less effective at preventing spread. There has been literally hundreds of studies that show masks didn't do shit. And the virus was man made, and that's a "no brainer". Even the Chinese government is admitting that, suggesting it was created in Ft. Dietrich and released in China.
(DIR) Post #Adfg7xvUNJsk0fjHjk by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:49:55.475896Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff also we were on the land where our house stand on. in case people freak out
(DIR) Post #AdfgCTPbFokEoqxluC by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:50:41.384689Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent There are dozens of things you can do to reduce the spread of COVID that aren't "shut down the planet". We aren't doing those things either admittedly.
(DIR) Post #AdfgK6n1FNWgySYeZs by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:52:03.746185Z
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@threat @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff I respect probably 90% of Jeff's opinion on it.
(DIR) Post #AdfgQDhST3H08xs41o by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T13:53:12.745369Z
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@jeffcliff @Moon @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent Covid will never be extinguished. That's fucking laughable. There are dozens of species that can carry and spread covid to humans. The jabs don't prevent infection or spread, and each new variation, according to the science tm, can cause reinfection. Every 3 months a new variant becomes dominant, cam spread from people to dozens of other species and back to other people, and reinfect a population. Masks were 2% effective at best, and lockdowns caused more suicides than saved lives.
(DIR) Post #AdfgQgL7z9dsy6e8kS by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:53:15.403661Z
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> China was never "mostly covid free" and the best that could possibly result from lockdowns is a "slow the spread" scenario. It was never intended to prevent spread. yes it was, and it did prevent spreadwe know this because of the spike in infections, as soon as they got rid of their policies> Post the covid hazard index SCREENSHOT of the figures you're talking about. Let's take a look. I have to you. At least twice. >You can't point to a single chart where you could show where masks are anything but 2% or less effective at preventing spreadEven if it was 2%, that's enough to justify mandating them.> There has been literally hundreds of studies that show masks didn't do shit. I have kept track of literally hundreds of studies about masks. And they don't say that.>And the virus was man made,Here's you ignoring not just @Angie_rasmussen on SARS2 but just making shit up about SARS1.> that's a "no brainer".No it isn't. The only thing without a brain here is you, zombie.> Even the Chinese government is admitting that, suggesting it was created in Ft. Dietrich and released in China.They are *lying*.
(DIR) Post #AdfgSLnjJoipqdow88 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:53:34.246870Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent exactly. We should be doing all of them.
(DIR) Post #Adfgca2tDFYmvFmzmS by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:55:19.628533Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff putting on my jeff cliff hat for a moment, you can get covid and live and suffer long-term consequences from it so only measuring deaths isn't adequate.
(DIR) Post #Adfglxxhf5E3hhq4Uy by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T13:57:09.166583Z
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@jeffcliff @Angie_rasmussen Again, slowing the spread is not the same as getting rid of covid. All your doing is delaying the inevitable spread. China saw this as has that rest of the world, which is why they stopped their "zero covid" effort. Not one single country, not one single health organization, is suggesting lockdowns as a solution. The US, Canada, and the EU ALL offered lockdowns as a way to SLOW THE SPREAD and there was never any intention or belief that lockdowns would get us past covid. They simply wanted to slow the spread to buy time for the jab to work as the media promised. We were told it would prevent infection and prevent spread, but that was never tested to be true or suggested to be true by the manufacturers, themselves.
(DIR) Post #AdfgtmdFfa2qsj05SK by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:58:33.413791Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon @jeffcliff >.The jabs don't prevent infectionit might not but it could help you recover quicker like the flu shot. when i got covid before the vax was even a thing it took my whole 2 months to get my ass back where i was. now i may ask would you want to lose 2 months of wages or risk death i wouldn't.
(DIR) Post #Adfh05X4JOQNEm7AbQ by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T13:59:42.637491Z
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@Moon @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff "Long term consequences" for covid are related to the severity of the covid infection. 88% of those who had severe covid were over 65 AND had multiple serious comorbidities. There had been nothing to suggest that covid is any worse than the flu for those under 65 with no pre-existing serious comorbidities. Under 18 and the flu is exponentially more dangerous.
(DIR) Post #Adfh0LnxoLRhho8t9s by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T13:59:43.010739Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent @jeffcliff also i was filling like shit still few months after getting ok and sometimes but now 4 years later i can have my days.
(DIR) Post #Adfh25PZjS6pRRYw8e by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T14:00:04.381994Z
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@1iceloops123 @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon @jeffcliff Are you jabbed?
(DIR) Post #Adfh8lsGll3MsKAhLE by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:01:01.038098Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff I am between 18 and 65 and the after effects of COVID were far worse than being sock from COVID. long covid is real.
(DIR) Post #AdfhCcdf36NTOEAuFk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:01:57.356189Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon We are going to extinguish/eradicate it. This is not up for debate.> There are dozens of species that can carry and spread covid to humans.Then we'll eradicate them. Or innoculate them.> The jabs don't prevent infection or spread,They helped do both. But unfortunately covidiots like you undermined both by keeping a nice, big supply of suceptibles> and each new variation, according to the science tm, can cause reinfection.Sure.> Every 3 months a new variant becomes dominantIt can happen faster than that depending on how many covidiots are spreading it.>, cam spread from people to dozens of other species and back to other people, > and reinfect a population. Sure.Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it.> Masks were 2% effective at best, > and lockdowns caused more suicides than saved lives.No they didn't. They other way around: the amount of sucides prevented by the lack of public school more than offset anything you're talking about. Also: suicides are and remain up, long after lockdowns are overthe suicides are up because of *covid* mental health of people takes a drop when their brain circuit gets dysregulated from *covid* and when people lose people in their lives from *covid* and when people get their body trashed by *covid*. *Covid* will drive more suicides than lockdowns ever will.
(DIR) Post #AdfhEuAqp9hqLzmu3s by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:02:22.977629Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon @jeffcliff yes. but i guess people can fuck around and find out. and cripple themselfs or want to die. only people who shouldn't get the vaccines if they can't because of medical reasons like being allergic to eggs
(DIR) Post #AdfhK9KJujOEnTiYRU by gucciloafers@poa.st
2024-01-09T14:03:20.171998Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent >China mostly coof free
(DIR) Post #AdfhtkjooO9Axfca5w by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:09:45.575938Z
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@FreeinTX @Angie_rasmussen Covid spreading is not inevitable > China saw this as has that rest of the world, which is why they stopped their "zero covid" effort.No. They stopped their "zero covid" effort because they had a bunch of people, like what happened with US & Canada, attempting to overthrow their government. They were pushed by other world governments who attempted to run a coup on them.> Not one single country, not one single health organization, is suggesting lockdowns as a solution. So? I am.> The US, Canada, and the EU ALL offered lockdowns as a way to SLOW THE SPREAD With the assumption that people wouldn't actively side with the virus, like you covidiots have. Governments policy assumed that you covidiots wouldn't be *that* dumb.>and there was never any intention or belief that lockdowns would get us past covid. Lockdowns alone? No. But in combination with *the rest of the works of public health* including vaccinations yes> They simply wanted to slow the spread to buy time for the jab to work as the media promised. And they succeeded in that. And then people didn't get the jab.> We were told it would prevent infection and prevent spread, but that was never tested to be This, however is true. We lucked out.> true or suggested to be true by the manufacturers, themselves.For the nth time I don't fucking care what the manufacturers say.
(DIR) Post #Adfi39ER76S7XAQFcW by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:11:27.582994Z
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@1iceloops123 @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent 2 months...from the acute part of the infection. There might be months lost at the end of your life, after your T-cells don't prevent you from infection with tuberculosis, or your heart gives out a decade early too but you don't get to see those right away.
(DIR) Post #AdfiFULIRzUQTyW21Q by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:13:41.543050Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent yeah i was glad i was 25 and could fight it off. but i drank lot of gatorade
(DIR) Post #AdfiPrwlXqWMaNzXCC by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:15:33.535188Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon >"Long term consequences" for covid are related to the severity of the covid infection. 'Related to' maybe. [[citation needed]]> 88% of those who had severe covid were over 65 AND had multiple serious comorbidities. 1) COVID causes a comorbidity every time you get it2) That also means 12% were not. Which at tens of millions of deaths, is a substantial portion of people.> There had been nothing to suggest that covid is any worse than the flu This however is not true. 1) it's worse than the flu in the sense that it damages the immune system2) it's worse than the flu in the sense that it is more contagious, and has managed to stay at high community transmission longer than a single season, and if there is seasonality to it, it's much quicker - 4-7 waves per year or more3) it's about an order of magnitude more lethal than the flu per infection *across age*> for those under 65 with no pre-existing serious comorbidities. Under 18 and the flu is exponentially more dangerous.Under 18, unvaxxed and covid is roughly equal to or worse than the risk of the flu over 18
(DIR) Post #AdfjD5nkp2l1kFFQsC by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:24:26.151253Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent looking it up AGAIN for @FreeinTX the chances of an unvaxxed 18 year old being hospitalized from covid, is ~1 in 256.the chances of a 65 year old getting hospitalized from the flu is ~1 in 3300the chances of an unvaxxed 18 year old being in the ICU from covid, is ~1 in 3789.the chances of a 65 year old getting hospitalized from the flu is ~1 in 7700the chances of an unvaxxed 18 year old dying from a covid infection is ~1 in 8197the chances of an 65 year old dying from flu is ~1 in 8100the *short term* risk of the flu at 65 is comparable with the short-term risk from covid at 18.
(DIR) Post #AdfjqMGdXK6K6fTroe by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:31:33.160922Z
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@1iceloops123 @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent I wouldn't even go that far.I'm fine with some people choosing to be in the control group *as long as they remove themselves from the cycle of infection*
(DIR) Post #AdfkVeCDmZfzaJ6ULo by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:38:44.644795Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @Moon @TimeSpent i think i'm burned out also i'm not peoples dad
(DIR) Post #AdfkgcFbM8QMjhun1k by threat@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:40:59.023555Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff i never said jeff's opinion was unworthy of respect. i've enjoyed conversations with him in the past myself. my comment was focused on the irony, nothing more sir
(DIR) Post #AdfkjzwjiE7160hgmG by Moon@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:41:30.211899Z
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@threat @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff no problem I was just clarifying my own relation to it.
(DIR) Post #AdfkraxOVRUxuRdMh6 by threat@shitposter.club
2024-01-09T14:42:58.413239Z
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@Moon @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @jeffcliff covid is an interesting topic especially when you pull apart the politics around it. in another life i used to study virology. fascinating discipline
(DIR) Post #AdfpQJVpkvsTl4YMs4 by not_br549@jollyville.net
2024-01-09T15:34:04.821538Z
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apparently it damages your immune system, which re-awakens all the other viruses and things... also, like the vax, it leaves a lot of RNA odds-and-ends around.
(DIR) Post #AdgQgzWJ2M1qyoadMG by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T22:31:41.364797Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon Show sauce on these seemingly bullshit claims.
(DIR) Post #AdgRDHP655odiCc94K by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-09T22:37:31.563576Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon > COVID causes a comorbidity every time you get itNot only is this total fucking bullshit, it's a totally fucking bullshit strawman. I said "pre-existing serious comorbidity". This directly fucking implies previous, diagnosed, SERIOUS comorbidities. The average age of covid death is fucking 82 years old AND (not or, fucking AND) 2.4 pre-existing, serious, comorbidities. Covid may be cause for concern if you're over 65 AND (not or) have pre-existing health issues. And, if you want to add previous covid infection to the list, fine, go ahead, still, over 65 AND Comorbidities. Not one or the other, both. However, if you're under 65, health, no serious, pre-existing comorbidities, taking this fucking poison 2-4 times FOR THE RESTV OF YOUR LIFE is fucking insane.
(DIR) Post #Adgi1rCgqnqeUNwy0m by PhoBingas@poa.st
2024-01-10T01:17:55.065412Z
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@FreeinTX @jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon yeah if you're co-morbidly obese maybe. Covid is a cold unless you're an infant, a geriatric, a landwhale or an AIDS patient.
(DIR) Post #Adgs8rmG7CYBpxZHW4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T03:39:12.305280Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon canada covid hazard index.
(DIR) Post #AdgsOlJHvbEyPdb4Fc by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T03:42:08.149720Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon covid IS serious.And guess what? Lots of people have had it 2.4 times now.>However, if you're under 65, healthy, no serious, pre-existing comorbidities, taking this fucking poison 2-4 times FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE is fucking insane.What's fucking insane is letting a disease run rampant that causes, every time you get it, a 7% reduction in your oxygen intake from your lungs. A 10-20% chance of long covid style damage to your muscles and ligaments. Damage to your heart, brain, and worse damage to your immune system than HIV. We need to stop it NOW not later. And vaccines are part of that.
(DIR) Post #AdgtRjTVJ8mNXlM6Ou by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T03:53:27.506227Z
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Covid is no more a cold than HIV is. Covid can cause you to *become* an AIDS patient.
(DIR) Post #AdhoQnqAtfYhPRfBeS by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-10T11:43:15.208498Z
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@jeffcliff @PhoBingas @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon You're full of shit. Post the sauce on your so called "morbidly information", especially the part about causing aids.
(DIR) Post #AdhoUO2wjxgQZLLWNc by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-10T12:03:15.118285Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon The jab isn't stopping that. You don't get a serious comorbidity every time you get covid. There are not hundreds of millions of people with multiples of 7% losses in lung function. "Long covid" is more likely caused by the jab than covid, and you're "10-20% chance" bullshit is nonsense. Regardless of how many times you get covid, you aren't over 65, and the average age of a covid death is 82.
(DIR) Post #AdhoUPdUpYVvUzSDzM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T14:25:09.601424Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon > There are not hundreds of millions of people with multiples of 7% losses in lung function. THERE ARE>"Long covid" is more likely caused by the jab than covid, and you're "10-20% chancNo it isn't. The jab seems to reduce the rate, though by how much is still up for grabs> Regardless of how many times you get covid, you aren't over 65, and the average age of a covid death is 82....and dropping as more and more people trash their health with covid, dropping their telomeres by decades
(DIR) Post #AdhoXLacKcLtolVUlk by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-10T12:03:53.653640Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon Screenshot the information and post it or post the link directly to the study. I'm not your RA, faggot.
(DIR) Post #AdhoaHTq4B4TwRjeTI by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T14:26:05.859566Z
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@FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon If you're not going to read the sources I send you to that's your problem.
(DIR) Post #AdhtZP0n4vwAmVY56O by HumongusChungus@poa.st
2024-01-10T15:29:58.588166Z
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@jeffcliff @FreeinTX @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon
(DIR) Post #Adhtm26tXN45WBQVpA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T15:31:45.018505Z
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@HumongusChungus @Kagekokoro @FreeinTX @TimeSpent @Moon It has spread to africa, and the health effects there (relative to the age of the people involved) have been terrible. But you just don't see the same effects in, say, Mali (average age: 17) compared to Italy (average age: 45)https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/nearly-half-covid-survivors-africa-have-lingering-symptoms-data-reveal
(DIR) Post #Adhw0mHcrao4gSbXo8 by FreeinTX@poa.st
2024-01-10T15:57:20.053038Z
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@jeffcliff @Kagekokoro @TimeSpent @Moon You don't send sources. You send shit links to home pages and want me to look for shit that ain't there. "Prove your claim" does not mean, have your reader look it up.
(DIR) Post #Adhw77LnRsellCZvN2 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
2024-01-10T15:57:43.810290Z
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It is there, which you would know if you actually read it.