Post AdffJUisg7bExSlXAe by GreenZeta@noagendasocial.com
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 (DIR) Post #AdezKi1gVSd0QrSQnA by mittimithai@neenster.org
       2024-01-09T05:50:24.412642Z
       
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       This article is so strange. https://spectrum.ieee.org/midjourney-copyrightExperiments with Midjourney and DALL-E 3 show a copyright minefieldWell...depending on what you do with those outputs, sure. But then there are copyright minefields in using your computer for mundane things like backing up DVDs, sharing mp3 files with your friends etc.We will call such near-verbatim outputs “plagiaristic outputs,” because if a human created them we would call them prima facie instances of plagiarism. Why are we calling them “plagiaristic outputs”?  Did the computer claim that the output is its own original work? That would be hard to do given the training data is often freely available for anyone to see.Artists generally have no good way of attributing works that they may have derived their work from and are aware they may not be able to recall the exact works that they are influenced by.  If someone made a pixel perfect copy of an image authored by someone else in, say, minecraft and attributed the author of the original image somehow (say, in a writeup on twitter) , it wouldn't be plagiarism.Computer programs, like modern generative AI, don't make declarations of who created their outputs. The humans that run them do.There are no out of the box methods for perfect attribution with AI yet....but they are definitely a realistic possibility.The last line:Another participant who may or may not have worked for Midjourney then said “at some point it really becomes impossible to trace what’s a derivative work in the eyes of copyright.”Is about right. The problem here might be copyright, not really AI.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdfcJOfksFQCKYZ7QG by MandyJane@spinster.xyz
       2024-01-09T13:07:10.191841Z
       
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       @mittimithai The copyright trolls are drooling in anticipation!
       
 (DIR) Post #AdffJUisg7bExSlXAe by GreenZeta@noagendasocial.com
       2024-01-09T13:40:48Z
       
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       @mittimithai I'm not sure I follow the logic here. You're literally telling the AI to output the copyrighted work. The AI isn't committing the plagiarism here, the person who wrote the prompt is.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdfsogK6tfQFJkNfv6 by judgedread@freespeechextremist.com
       2024-01-09T16:12:07.014415Z
       
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       @mittimithai It comes down to how good are your lawyers. Harlan Ellison was clearly ripped off by James Cameron in Terminator and Cameron was enough of an arrogant asshole even then to brag about it to a reporter Ellison knew, so he got a settlement - a paltry 50k, BTW. The same ripoff artist went on to do Avatar which ripped off at least three well known sources, Roger Dean's album cover art, the Dinotopia TV series pterodactyl rider sequence and a novel about using biological avatars whose title escapes me, but by then Cameron was lawyered up and cautious enough not to provide a signed confession so he got away with it.