Post AdccA0Uh7SLfbqKTJo by alastair@social.alastair87.me
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(DIR) Post #AdZfLYzbOK9lYEoY4m by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-06T16:12:50Z
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I am a Jew legally married to a non-Jew in the United States. This would not be legal in Israel under their theocratic, apartheid government.
(DIR) Post #AdZomT2IXpkOU2ykz2 by LexyCameron@mstdn.ca
2024-01-06T17:58:33Z
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@rchusid Isn't that a variation on the Nuremberg Laws? Irony.https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nuremberg-laws
(DIR) Post #AdZou3qC6UvQetwF0a by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-06T17:59:56Z
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@LexyCameron Definitely the same mind set.
(DIR) Post #AdaR5erObTWuuqSQ52 by holyramenempire@kolektiva.social
2024-01-07T01:07:47Z
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@rchusid My partner's Jewish, and an "old family friend" told him that dating me (and being gay) was "continuing the work of Hitler". At his brother's wedding, no less.
(DIR) Post #AdabPZNPhSjnF4ZC7M by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-07T03:03:28Z
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@holyramenempire Great "friend"
(DIR) Post #AdadIIfjbmUXJbnVvE by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-07T03:24:32Z
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@rchusid in the narrowest, purely academic understanding, yes. in practice, no. I know of couples with interfaith marriages in Israel. they are common. people just make a quick jaunt somewhere else, like Cyprus, get married in a civil service, and come home. It's perfectly legally recognized. Even Wikipedia acknowledges this ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Israel ). Apparently people even get married remotely with an officiant aborad.What you are saying here is basically misinformation. It's tiresome.
(DIR) Post #Adb3bW6AVlHdGazAgK by OK_Adubya@mstdn.social
2024-01-07T08:19:16Z
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@rchusid didn't Israel's high court rule that civil marriages conducted remotely through Utah must be recognized? Also the org Hashgacha Pratit is pioneering a valid alternative for orthodox weddings outside the Chief Rabbinate .
(DIR) Post #AdbK6JvpOaV7m9rKdM by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-07T11:24:13Z
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@OK_Adubya So separate but equal is OK?
(DIR) Post #AdbrvEA6E19oLZ5gf2 by OK_Adubya@mstdn.social
2024-01-07T17:43:10Z
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@rchusid Not implying that but the ability is just about in place to allow interfaith/non-religious marriages domestically. They do recognize marriages conducted outside of Israel even if remotely now as well as a start to developing an alternative to the state monopoly even for Orthodox weddings.Its bizarre for a western democracy for sure. In the region it is quite typical though, and 21% of Israel's population are Arabs. So, the process for changes will be filtered through all groups.
(DIR) Post #AdccA0Uh7SLfbqKTJo by alastair@social.alastair87.me
2024-01-07T19:18:57.383Z
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@elana@mastodon.social @rchusid@med-mastodon.com What you're describing is systematic discrimination against people by the legal system based on their faith. The fact that there's a (non-free) workaround doesn't make it acceptable.
(DIR) Post #AdccA1darr3r9jV5pQ by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-07T21:32:11Z
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@alastair I deleted my post because I realized I really didn’t want to debate, but here you are.Ron’s original post implied that interfaith marriages were illegal, impossible, maybe even prosecuted. This is a misrepresentation of the reality in Israel. You don’t have to like it, but it’s not what things are really like there. Israel is a flawed country but it’s not what people say, either.
(DIR) Post #AdccA2a5MNqi58ro00 by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-08T02:21:11Z
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@elana @alastair You are sure shifting the goal posts, misrepresenting what I said. I never said it was impossible or prosecuted. Looking up the law verifies what I said. Of course it is not impossible, but a form of legal discrimination and "separate but equal" is unacceptable.
(DIR) Post #Adcgc4HN2VibH1jVqa by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-08T03:11:10Z
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@rchusid you never said it explicitly, but would you really be surprised if that was what someone took away from your phrasing? You know exactly what you’re saying, what thoughts and feelings and associations you are bringing up in people who don’t know better. It’s a choice. 🤷♀️
(DIR) Post #AdcgqohXExjLIr0JWa by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-08T03:13:51Z
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@elana The choice was on your part to misrepresent what I said.
(DIR) Post #AdchSPBYYWBpAgyBns by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-08T03:20:37Z
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@rchusid okay buddy. I deleted my original reply because I did not want to fight with you or with any of your little followers. If you’re so confident that what you say is perfectly right, then it should be able to stand on its own without needing any defence, especially if I am so grossly misrepresenting you. Let’s just conclude with that.
(DIR) Post #AdchgyFgyX2pz0qk7M by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-08T03:23:16Z
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@elana The post does stand on its own. When someone resorts to lying about a post as you have any post subjected to this would equally need defense. If lied about what you said in one of your posts wouldn't you object and call out the lies?
(DIR) Post #AdciDyHtrcVZeLcOcC by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-08T03:27:40Z
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@rchusid lying??Sigh. I suppose you never saw my original reply.All I said was that according to the narrowest legal interpretation, you are correct, but in practice, interfaith marriages do happen in Israel, in a manner that is perfectly legally recognized. Implying otherwise is a misrepresentation.Pretty benign stuff, really. You can stand down.
(DIR) Post #AdcijVMmvZ2rDdwP9k by rchusid@med-mastodon.com
2024-01-08T03:34:56Z
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@elana Of course I saw your initial comment. Don't you realize that it still comes to me as a notification? It was rather rude and incorrect.
(DIR) Post #Adck4tzAgnfhbpf3lA by elana@mastodon.social
2024-01-08T03:50:00Z
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@rchusid oh, I wish I’d screenshotted it before deleting it. I apologize if it was rude. I really, genuinely, with all my heart, regret having an interaction with you about it.