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 (DIR) Post #AdZ5Qv4x6cLz9HZUzg by stux@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T09:30:18Z
       
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       Luckily we already got most of it👌🏻 🚄
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZ5Xfd6wY2tGGlgGm by nicholas_saunders@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T09:31:34Z
       
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       @stux I want electricity too cheap to meter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZ6suK5bqPEroYreC by pukima@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T09:46:40Z
       
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       @stux Exactly! My brother also doesn't wanna get his driver license anymore, since it's getting so expensive (2,5-3k in €). He's gonna move to a city near us anyway, but the public transport has a lot of room to improve.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZ7FRpFjCPH90syfo by fonecokid@c.im
       2024-01-06T09:50:43Z
       
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       @stux :bd94: ❤️
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZ8yOQjIboZbBPWYy by schmitzel76@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T10:10:02Z
       
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       @stux regular, fast, accessible and easy? I wouldn't use any of those terms for the dutch public transport, especially when get outside of one of the big cities.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZ9oMpcUIBFhPptgW by stux@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T10:19:26Z
       
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       @schmitzel76 Mwaa it works :blobcatgiggle: I was born in the North-East so i know the struggles about public transit :bloblaugh: still, a lot better then most countries
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZBOxV5jMztnyFJsu by plainoldcheese@masto.ai
       2024-01-06T10:37:15Z
       
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       @stux One can dream 😔️, unfortunately South Africa is so big it'd be pretty expensive to build rail infrastructure, and service delivery is dog tier so I doubt it'd run as well. I enjoyed my time in the Netherlands so much 🇳🇱. Even though it was a holiday it was nice to not stress about transport or getting lost because there was always a bus/tram/train to take you back 🚄. Also, it may be the currency value difference (1€ = R20) but Ubers were ridiculously expensive 😵‍💫️.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZBU06nSeXjLGHpyK by schmitzel76@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T10:38:11Z
       
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       @stux it can be a lot worse, but  also a lot better.  I have been living my entire life along the west coast, enclosed by Den Haag, Rotterdam and Delft. With those cities nearby, you would expect acceptable public transport. But you definately need to have a car to get anywhere. Sometimes it is even faster to go by bike than by public transport.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZBjxwlGakxGpCnmC by Schouten_B@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T10:40:59Z
       
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       @stux Uh.. You clearly live in a different Netherlands than I do. Inside Amersfoort sure! If I go to Utrecht or Amsterdam, sure. Basically anywhere else? A car is the only reasonable option for someone with limited time on their hands.Nijmegen? Public transport, 1 hour 20 minutes. Car, 45-50 minutes. A restaurant in Vianen? Public transport, 1 hour 5 minutes. Car, 25 minutes.We can dream, but we're nowhere close.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZDSxKAWlh0KEAeeW by maximweinstein@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T11:00:23Z
       
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       @stux I'm currently visiting Amsterdam, and I can confirm.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZHQ92Ov8F5bMm7Wa by Merlyn@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T11:44:41Z
       
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       @stux I've heard really great things about Dutch public transport so looking forward to exploring around the Dordrecht area where we just rented a place gof my husband who now works partly in NL.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZICCoy9oA7EfPTJg by paulthenerd@cupoftea.social
       2024-01-06T11:53:20Z
       
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       @stux thing is most cities weren’t actually built around cars because when they were built long before cars were a thing and crudely adapted to fit the car. We often forget this in our car obsessed and dependent society. Bring cities back to how they were intended
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZJXNHyX6y9jidRMO by mentalmotel@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T12:08:19Z
       
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       @stux May I present you Berlin? It has it all, good public transportation, amazin local leadership and good distribution of wealth.Wait what? They elected a new local government last year? Should be fine right? Absolutely, now all the plans for a city *not* evolving around cars have been terminated. Even better, they have deconstructed already existing bike lanes and replaced them with regular streets.Also more parking inside the city cause we love to inhale smog.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZMbiE6vepFh6aUE4 by inj4n@chaos.social
       2024-01-06T12:42:45Z
       
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       @stux for urban areas that is absolutely true, for rural areas there need to be transport systems (maybe micro containers), railway (maybe smaller width) sharing schemes and for the very, very last mile of very remote areas there could be individual solutions, but if you could put down a paved road, then you definitely can put down rails instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZQOBHGWNypYYrlsu by dartov@hachyderm.io
       2024-01-06T13:25:09Z
       
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       @stux that’s a Siemens Velaro train made for Russia (Sapsan). I want trains, but please no Russia.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZS35Cw5rOwYfuOu0 by lackadaisicalsummer@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T13:43:48Z
       
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       @stux I want all these things to include accessibility so all bodies and everyone can use them and don't get excluded. Good luck with any and all of this in the US 🥲🙃
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZTG5cvwh95Zrpp0S by jrod3737@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T13:57:21Z
       
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       @stux I’d come over if I could. But governments don’t like immigrants unless they can be abused as cheap labor.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZUKsGn8OwZYMK6uO by terrygrundy@mas.to
       2024-01-06T14:09:24Z
       
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       @stux Thank you! We are in complete agreement.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZUQSdnKqvnntkMng by lizstl13@mastodon.sdf.org
       2024-01-06T14:10:22Z
       
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       @stux Billionaires can’t make money from public services…
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZWmLfI9TVeRp0mOW by Methylcobalamin@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T14:36:45Z
       
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       @stux I want the trains too, but as an American I want the electric cars too.  The U.S. is too big for 100% coverage by passenger trains.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZXMIqi6A4m8iUs9g by flamenco108@101010.pl
       2024-01-06T14:43:15Z
       
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       @stux i want warm, bright, wind- and rainproof sidewalks and public transport stops free of stinky abnegates and aggressive lumps before cities would be redesigned to be not around cars. Howgh.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZa8hR6Bho2Cdiqjw by Frits@mastodon.nl
       2024-01-06T15:14:23Z
       
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       @stux Yeaaahhhh!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZbuGtKHdfPjKAoLI by PJ_Evans@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T15:34:05Z
       
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       @stux I want buses that serve shopping centers, malls, and medical centers, so I don't need a car for everything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZeXbIcXaamE5szbs by abit_kt7@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T16:03:44Z
       
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       @stux Unfortunately, train transportation is a mafia.I'm an heavy commuter: train and bus. It's crazy the amount of BS I could see with the train.Public transport should be transparent : contracts, statistics etc... Like the politics in fact :)
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZfTcxmVpn8BNo9ei by rayrayrayraydog@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T16:13:57Z
       
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       @stux American here.  As long as they have bathrooms I'm in.  Too bad it's not going to happen
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZi58UGTCKAZj0ywK by HeatherTX@mastodon.social
       2024-01-06T16:43:25Z
       
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       @stux Here in Texas, we have cars and trucks and exploding rockets to Mars. 🫤 Some of us would like fast trains (and have wanted them for decades). In a couple of cities, we have tiny commuter trains that run a few miles. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️
       
 (DIR) Post #AdZqi06oLxqNW95VQG by kinyutaka@mstdn.social
       2024-01-06T18:20:05Z
       
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       @stux The buses in my city operate on a once an hour basis. And sometimes they run 5-10 minutes early, so if you get there on time, you end up waiting for the next one.
       
 (DIR) Post #Adarb2QPdbCVmnSZto by OddMinus1@mstdn.social
       2024-01-07T06:04:41Z
       
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       @stux I would love to see it. I wonder how a few things would be solved. Like if I would want to move to a different appartment, would I have to pack up my bed, sofa, table bags and other items and carry onto trains? And how are emergencies handled? Fire trucks, ambulances and police cars would require some substitution. I'm sure there are good hypothetical systems for this, but my mind is narrowly locked to the current infrastructure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AddmfsaFG7az2eipKy by AspenProposal@universeodon.com
       2024-01-08T15:53:41Z
       
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       @stux The best case scenario that I have heard for self-driving cars pairs them with the sharing economy and largely eliminates car ownership. Reduces the number of vehicles by 90%, eliminates most parking lots and garages but still maintains a high level of convenience.
       
 (DIR) Post #AddurDq7MxIpmj49cu by Aloha_Cecilia@universeodon.com
       2024-01-08T17:25:24Z
       
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       @stux Great post!
       
 (DIR) Post #AdeDkfP6NzASNN185Y by Sunny@universeodon.com
       2024-01-08T20:57:08Z
       
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       @stux I'm kind of laughing at that reply! 🙂 What's so funny, you say?They didn't have cars when most of your cities were designed!!!🤣 Kudos
       
 (DIR) Post #AdhnNXg0RDMWSFmw4m by ExistenzKetzer@norden.social
       2024-01-10T13:27:48Z
       
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       @stux I want free public transport so that mobility is no longer linked to income. Mobility should be a basic right.