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 (DIR) Post #AdUgOFSLc0BdzcIvVg by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-04T06:28:44Z
       
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       Why can I not find a detailed discussion of whether or not the metro system in Cyberpunk 2077 makes any sense
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUggGnDNha3Lnerc8 by luis_in_brief@social.coop
       2024-01-04T06:32:36Z
       
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       @mjg59 be the change you want to see in the world
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUh9vvzUsInLYuL6u by mxk@hachyderm.io
       2024-01-04T06:38:01Z
       
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       @mjg59 it never was about game design, but about people getting the satisfaction of finally receiving "what they've been promised"
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUhUjwdGlJKF784Cu by towo@chaos.social
       2024-01-04T06:41:48Z
       
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       @mjg59Because the patch adding it is a bit new, mostly.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUhoFg9VT5aAOizVg by colinpeters@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T06:45:12Z
       
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       @mjg59 Someone’s falling down on the job, here.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUjJHZAdgkUx3orQW by Madagascar_Sky@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T07:01:05Z
       
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       @mjg59 This would make a great parody topic for @RM_Transit .
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUjlOWyL3eOezCDUO by jwz@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T07:06:52Z
       
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       Attn @jef @LukeBornheimer @burritojustice
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUk7QiYt8ZfoV7lCa by hrw@society.oftrolls.com
       2024-01-04T07:11:04Z
       
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       @mjg59 Compared to already existing system of fast travel? It depends.If you want to travel quick then you would skip metro and just use fast travel.Metro in game is for looking at city via a window. Nothing more.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUkr2AIVTVwzAqKQ4 by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-04T07:17:49Z
       
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       Like what the fuck is this orange line doing in what universe does this do what people want
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUl07ZFn10ALbqhyy by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-04T07:19:01Z
       
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       And is the green line a figure of eight? What?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUlBkVHMpECI4XDO4 by PaulM@infosec.exchange
       2024-01-04T07:21:18Z
       
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       @mjg59 dumbest lack of transfers even in obvious places
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUlLW4ds3zmQwjV0C by anathema@girlcock.club
       2024-01-04T07:23:51Z
       
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       @mjg59 it’s trapped inside a Discord server
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUlVD8f7tJabSEhCy by greve@floss.social
       2024-01-04T07:26:34Z
       
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       @mjg59 Classic "Drop onto train hammered to the point of having lost all sense of time, hope you've sobered up enough to wake up and get out at your stop" design. 😉
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUlssDgYPzyfqrvCy by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-04T07:30:50Z
       
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       @uep IT CROSSES ITSELF
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUm6UY5MJo5JWu8BM by nils_ballmann@infosec.exchange
       2024-01-04T07:32:59Z
       
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       @mjg59 at least this comes close to the round trip, in which you can just get onto the train and sit, watch and drive indefinitely.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUnJ8JDSPn03bXbX6 by dorward@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T07:46:45Z
       
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       @mjg59 It seems very similar to the so-called Circle line. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Circle_line_%26_London_map.svgIt probably started out quite sensibly and then got incrementally “improved” in a setting with cost constraints.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUnjvwJYR09Vrbma0 by viraptor@cyberplace.social
       2024-01-04T07:51:41Z
       
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       @mjg59 We almost got there. Those cowards https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/unbuilt-london-the-figure-of-eight-tube-line-24978/
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUo2ULwLSoFSMRUBM by antnisp@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T07:54:57Z
       
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       @mjg59 Where did they get my Cities Skylines save file?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUptPwTZgaL4xKlpQ by svuorela@floss.social
       2024-01-04T08:15:55Z
       
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       @mjg59 there is a line in Brussels the tricked me with other, but similar weirdness
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUwOSzgsSBPFK1ggK by siguza@infosec.exchange
       2024-01-04T09:28:12Z
       
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       @mjg59 this feels like someone really wanted to solve the Travelling Salesman problem with a single line but halfway through, the overseeing committee got fed up and hired someone else to do the rest of the system.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdUxM5qe3udkprEAM4 by RogerBW@emacs.ch
       2024-01-04T09:39:03Z
       
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       @mjg59 It transferred a lot of money from boring old government to exciting capitalist firm Diggin' Holes Under Night City Inc.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdV64yu1X0FjxViswi by jamesh@aus.social
       2024-01-04T11:17:21Z
       
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       @mjg59 Maybe they were playing Mini Metro, and ran out of lines but didn't want to demolish anything?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVHRzq9JKSt1T5V0y by p2502@poto.cafe
       2024-01-04T13:24:23Z
       
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       @mjg59 I sent this to the transit nerds chat and they replied with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_Metro 😵‍💫
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVTlJCojVHg2IfLCi by jonah@mastodon.neat.computer
       2024-01-04T15:41:53Z
       
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       @mjg59 I’ve definitely built lines in Mini Metro which look like this 😆
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVV180EFl93sUsuxc by kees@fosstodon.org
       2024-01-04T15:56:30Z
       
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       @mjg59 @uep I mean, it IS supposed to be set a future dystopia...
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVVJLKTRbAgQE2WlE by refi64@refi64.social
       2024-01-04T15:58:50Z
       
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       @mjg59 I feel like the most reasonable in-universe answer to this is a mix of "the planners were getting kickbacks" and "internal politics" (*looks at MTA*)
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVWGvIPMeQf3XU2Oe by corsac@mastodon.social
       2024-01-04T16:09:48Z
       
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       @mjg59 Ah, I think you really need to check the RER C line in Parishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RER_C
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVWoduyTv7V0NbLfs by dan_ballard@kolektiva.social
       2024-01-04T16:16:31Z
       
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       @mjg59 I would say most of the rest of cyberpunk is a rushed mess that had very little deep thought put into it so this is hardly surprising. Seems the result of some rushed poor person being asked to make a metro map and just being hazzily aware of what they look like, maybe googling a few, and then quickly churning one out maybe during crunch. I haven't played the game but I've followed it, I know the metro was advertised and supposed to be in at launch. Did they commit to it in the map at launch and just not have it working and only enable it in 2.1 or has the map been changed and stations and tracks been added with 2.1? Cus if it was committed to pre 1.0 that would also affect how little time the team had to think about it and since it didn't work no one noticed much till now when it was enabled.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVYbgsCNmqWJYFqj2 by dentangle@chaos.social
       2024-01-04T16:28:18Z
       
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       @kees @mjg59 @uep A dystopia with poor public transit? I think we're there already.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdVeSsMCup3d3ATG8u by bea@infosec.exchange
       2024-01-04T17:42:08Z
       
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       @mjg59 Umm, you live in SF. How is this not more infinitely sensical?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdWzUSyoWzHh7P5YRc by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-05T09:13:06Z
       
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       @corsac ok but that's clearly three other lines in a trenchcoat
       
 (DIR) Post #AdWzyScoPmrehn6FNo by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-05T09:15:37Z
       
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       @p2502 Oslo seems no worse than Sydney and simpler than Chicago and I think Night City is still rather worse
       
 (DIR) Post #AdX09qaPfSRECnPIf2 by naruciakk@ak.kawen.space
       2024-01-04T11:29:01.530959Z
       
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       @mjg59 @uep Oslo Metro line 5: that's sweet
       
 (DIR) Post #AdX09rZO0lD9FtvzhQ by naruciakk@ak.kawen.space
       2024-01-04T11:31:06.493718Z
       
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       @mjg59 @uep And additionally, Sofia Metro line 2 before they splitted it on paper into two lines (but combined lines 2 and 4 still are connected together and run connected)
       
 (DIR) Post #AdX09sjhft3esBlkQ4 by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-05T09:16:17Z
       
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       @naruciakk @uep ok that's cursed
       
 (DIR) Post #AdX0KeZWg1pa8493IW by mjg59@nondeterministic.computer
       2024-01-05T09:18:28Z
       
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       @p2502 oh wait I see the fucked up thing there now and well it's not *much* worse than the current iteration of the Circle line in London