Post AdToWWHxWBfKzPwMGe by vic@seal.cafe
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 (DIR) Post #AdMeVKgunCzh5CgmXo by mhoye@mastodon.social
       2023-12-31T00:52:28Z
       
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       As someone coming off a decade of working there, I can tell you with some confidence that “you should use Firefox despite Mozilla’s leadership” is far more true and has been true far longer than you realize.But you should also understand that original market-share vs ceo salary meme is a creation of Brendan Eich,  presumably born of a grudge, and notably elided his tenure as CTO, during which the worst of that decline happened.You should still use Firefox though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdMgc44DCQTjSWvKc4 by datarama@hachyderm.io
       2023-12-31T01:00:45Z
       
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       @mhoye I've used Firefox since back when it was named Phoenix, and I'll continue to do so for as long as I can.My own frustration with the Mozilla leadership is about specifically this: I *want* to keep using Firefox (and I *don't* want to use Chrome!), but they seem to keep making decisions that make me worry they're going to destroy it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToAn9C9pI8uATq64 by danilo@hachyderm.io
       2023-12-31T20:47:35Z
       
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       @mhoye a question that’s been burbling since I read this last night:How far outside the scope of possible is community-led development of a browser? Can the next chapter of the web have a viable, feature-complete browser for the people and by the people, or is that too complex an endeavor without a serious payroll?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToAoiKKgzJlPvPUm by jalcine@todon.eu
       2023-12-31T20:50:00Z
       
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       @danilo @mhoye I keep hearing it's too hard for communities and that confuses me so much because they're communities who build so many parts of it. Is it the herding?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToApSlY28Q5ReUsa by kissane@mas.to
       2024-01-03T16:41:52Z
       
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       @jalcine @danilo I think coherent design work—and, as @mhoye notes downthread, high-performance  infrastructure—are especially difficult to handle in distributed, all-volunteer systems. So less about “too hard” and more about “wrong shape,” I think? But “standard tech corp” isn’t the only alternative that can work.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToAqRNuecl7S0uMi by moh_kohn@mastodon.scot
       2024-01-03T16:57:36Z
       
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       @kissane @jalcine @danilo great design and user support and a million other things need full time attention which means paying people.FOSS is stronger where the private sector has an incentive to transfer value to the commons, eg Linux on servers, more recently Valve fixed Linux gaming to avoid the Apple/Google tax. We will always struggle elsewhere. I think government funding is the only universal solution, although some projects do do ok out of donations.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToArS89MoaG3N1AO by clive@saturation.social
       2024-01-03T20:22:59Z
       
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       @danilo @moh_kohn @kissane @jalcine This is such an important question — what are the *shape* of things (great word Erin) that can be well-tackled by loosely-coupled contributors Nadia Eghbal’s “Working In Public” did a really good job of describing some of the super-complex labor dimensions of big open source projectsThey are tricky always, and get trickier the bigger and more complex they get (and the more popular they get)
       
 (DIR) Post #AdToWWHxWBfKzPwMGe by vic@seal.cafe
       2024-01-03T20:27:28.167599Z
       
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       @danilo @mhoye It probably used to be feasible back when "the web" and "web browsers" were basically just HTTP connection-makers and HTML visualizers, but with all the Javascript and proprietary media garbage integrated in these days, only the most truly dedicated group could pull it off in a halfway-decent manner (before being bought out by Mozilla or Microsoft or Google or Samsung or ....)