Post AdPiZUoe4dbkvvQQnQ by sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place
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(DIR) Post #AdPiZUoe4dbkvvQQnQ by sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place
2024-01-01T20:11:47Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara Yep. Those of us who were there did a whole bunch of work precisely so that nothing happened, and we knew at the time that it would mean a lot of people would assume there wasn’t a problem in the first place. Such is the lot of the people who maintain critical infrastructure well, rather than letting it fail and “heroically” fixing it - no-one notices when you’re doing a good job.
(DIR) Post #AdPiedPVXy2p2L7MP2 by plaes@mastodon.social
2024-01-01T20:57:28Z
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@sinbad @tychotithonus @robertatcara
(DIR) Post #AdPnB25PjmpmeQQIE4 by mephisto@social.netz.org
2024-01-01T21:53:31Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara Yea, i just started my career w/ fixing y2k bugs, which were definately there and needed to be ironed out. What an epic clickbaity bs.
(DIR) Post #AdPqxC8vwvzVbVj6Jc by tomjennings@tldr.nettime.org
2024-01-01T22:35:48Z
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@robertatcaraOh look, all that wasted prevention effort! There was no disaster after all!People are not good at A causal B causal C.
(DIR) Post #AdQk1qnkDhpCLB33Me by gabriel@mastodon.samfira.com
2024-01-02T08:52:55Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara The curse of preventative measures. If you prevent a disaster, people start thinking that the disaster would never have happened anyway and everyone just overreacted.This happens with cyber security, site reliability work, vaccinations, you name it. We get a false sense of security when the people that work tirelessly (and most times thanklessly) keep the stuff we use, running.
(DIR) Post #AdQnznk71Kbm5lcyIK by CrypticMirror@mstdn.social
2024-01-01T22:19:38Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara A lot of dumbass prepper types got upset when nothing happened with Y2K, because they were getting all hot in the trousers at the thought of doing all that prepper stuff. They've never got over their sulk at the effort put into making sure society didn't collapse. That is why they keep talking up the dismissive "fuss over nothing" line, they don't want to prevent pain and suffering, because they want to cosplay Mad Max/Baron Hardup, they wanted and want collapse.
(DIR) Post #AdQnzoT8JwcYLOgvT6 by thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social
2024-01-02T00:14:17Z
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@CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara What they don't realize is, 1 week without the benefits of civilization, and they'll be dead of a bone infection that turned into sepsis, or COVID, or just about anything out there, really. The worst things are the ones you can't see. Valley Fever from the soil. Ticks, parasitic worms, cuts when you don't have access to treatment, like antibiotics ...
(DIR) Post #AdR1nPIJUYZ69MbosC by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
2024-01-02T12:12:01Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara The original concerns were raised IN THE 60s, and some dude decided to make his life mission to advocate for it to be fixed for 35 years, and people only started to take things seriously around 1994 when that guy retired, and then it was panic on board as people did overtime to fix what amounted to a 40 years old mistake that cascaded out of control.Honnestly, respect
(DIR) Post #AdR9zvgBi533hOG4Gm by kirsch@mastodon.world
2024-01-02T13:43:56Z
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@mephisto @tychotithonus @robertatcara in reference to what do you say “epic clickbaity bs”?
(DIR) Post #AdRAzjOzSOCPZjgRTk by mephisto@social.netz.org
2024-01-02T13:55:04Z
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@kirsch @tychotithonus @robertatcara The claim that the y2k issues seemed like a joke.. denying that there were serious threats that have widely been successfully mitigated is very funny.
(DIR) Post #AdRs25gZsEdFIMHVRY by kirsch@mastodon.world
2024-01-02T21:57:18Z
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@mephisto @tychotithonus @robertatcara the Time article one would click on doesn’t say that though.
(DIR) Post #AdRtGuDssGls2eULUO by mephisto@social.netz.org
2024-01-02T22:11:14Z
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@tychotithonus @kirsch @robertatcara yeah i was referring to it, too.
(DIR) Post #AdRtY8aUihRbW3HU0W by kjetil_kilhavn@snabelen.no
2024-01-02T22:14:20Z
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@jeff @tychotithonus @plaes @sinbad @robertatcara One of my first colleagues said they were through the same thing when 1969 was about to turn into year '0'. One would initially think they'd have fixed it properly then, but satellite communication was expensive, so the fix was to add one digit to the year and fix it for the next 30 years. #y2k
(DIR) Post #AdS5eh3AhW4VaSaSFE by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
2024-01-03T00:29:59Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcaraLet me look that up! I learned that from a conference and I may just find back all the details (and I'll add them to my notes to look less like an idiot next time)
(DIR) Post #AdS6qOGyRMvqmNBUau by Archivist@social.linux.pizza
2024-01-03T00:43:19Z
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@tychotithonus @robertatcara from my (middle of the night) delving, I think it was Robert Bemer
(DIR) Post #AdSOICNnwFP9EUE1AW by tyx@lor.sh
2024-01-03T03:58:49Z
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@thepoliticalcat @CrypticMirror @tychotithonus @robertatcara LOL, you sound like you are unaware of people living in countries, where there is no hospital in a freaking 300km radius around most of the villages and no roads or of people doing their fieldwork every year (say hi to Siberia with tick-borne encephalitis everywhere and no paved roads as well).Civilization is cool and comfortable, but humans are tough enough to live without.Also: good prepper or experienced expedition scientist usually has a stash of AB, antihelminthic, antihistamine, anti-inflammatory drugs, wound treatment kit, insect repellents, tick-proof clothes and up-to date knowledge how to use all this.
(DIR) Post #AdWed5uFabjX7rE7o8 by lispi314@udongein.xyz
2024-01-05T05:06:45.079806Z
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@CastlebridgeChief @robertatcara > accept there is no magic bullet bit of software that will solve the issueNever using fixnums would fix it in a lot of cases.It's a non-starter for embedded uses, but that's about it.(Fixnums are a portability problem anyway.)
(DIR) Post #AdahnM7xDC12pD3qO8 by tychotithonus@infosec.exchange
2023-12-30T16:05:23Z
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@robertatcara As someone who personally discovered and fixed Y2K bugs that would have had significant real world impact, it is disturbing to hear someone propagate this myth [that it was a "big fuss about nothing"]. And it is a myth.This is what really happened: https://time.com/5752129/y2k-bug-history/The testing methodology insured that these impacts were not hypothetical. At my company, the testing was performed by actually rolling the clock forward to test systems to see what would happen. For example, I discovered that every ATM in the state of Alaska operated by my company would have locked up until a PROM chip was swapped. Someone had to fly all over the state to proactively swap the chip beforehand, to avoid significant customer impact.And that was just one story. I personally oversaw investigation and fixes for other hardware and software at that company that would have failed.And that was just my company. I spoke with others in IT at that time with similar stories. And that was just the people I knew.So no, it wasn't "a big fuss about nothing" - and saying so is both dangerously revisionist, and disrespectful of the work it took to prevent real impacts.#Y2K