Post AdJ5I7F1PMkfjaizMu by Frondeur@poa.st
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(DIR) Post #AdJ08mNWZg56WIC7k0 by WarnerCrocker@mastodon.social
2023-12-29T14:16:16Z
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So. It appears that the U.S. Constitution that everyone swears an oath to protect and defend, waves around like a symbol of all that’s holy, and totes around next to their heart in their pocket only stands for something if it lines up with what you want it to mean. Good to know.#Politics #USPol #bullshit
(DIR) Post #AdJ08nEhNycFBD4aci by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-12-29T15:15:43Z
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@WarnerCrocker but he could have been convicted, yet wasn't even charged. I don't want him anywhere near the presidency but I want to preserve the rule of law even more.https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/rebellion-or-insurrection
(DIR) Post #AdJ0apWAUnHMMgc59E by WarnerCrocker@mastodon.social
2023-12-29T15:20:25Z
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@wjmaggos I want to preserve that as well. So much. That said, if huge swaths of the population decide that’s no longer what they want, act accordingly, where are at at that point?
(DIR) Post #AdJ1O33ewTv4Y4kPR2 by MoiraEve@mastodon.world
2023-12-29T15:29:39Z
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@wjmaggos trump doesn’t contest the facts of his being an insurrectionist. His entire campaign is based on his participation in the insurrection. @WarnerCrocker
(DIR) Post #AdJ1Zmg5fXdDDnJrlo by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-12-29T15:31:48Z
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@WarnerCrocker you might be misunderstanding me. I wasn't clear. I don't think he should be kept off the ballot. he should have at least been charged with insurrection before the 14A can be said to apply imo. we're getting into dangerous territory when there's federal law you can be convicted of, that's referenced by another law, and judges and other state officials can decide that first part just isn't necessary. imagine it was "no murderer can be elected etc". could OJ be barred?
(DIR) Post #AdJ231iwo6AaHfbFQm by WarnerCrocker@mastodon.social
2023-12-29T15:37:03Z
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@wjmaggos I think I got you. I think we disagree.. I’m in the camp that a conviction isn’t necessary. Not required by the Constituion as far as I can read, especially since he’s owned up to his role. I think that comports with existing law. I’m not a lawyer. This is my opinion. I’m as guilty of holding one as is everyone else. The bottom line is we have laws that are poorly written and require interpretation and courts and legislatures that are either apparently afaid to act, or act willynilly.
(DIR) Post #AdJ2768AMg4n6rKwj2 by threalist@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-29T15:37:54.422167Z
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Imagine not understanding that if you abuse and disregard the system, at some point when you no longer hold power it will be abused and disregarded against you.
(DIR) Post #AdJ2XtpGkokCtkVubY by Frondeur@poa.st
2023-12-29T15:42:46.132765Z
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@wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker but he was charged with inciting an insurrection and acquitted...
(DIR) Post #AdJ2z8gpbAZKogYWRc by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-12-29T15:47:35Z
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@threalist @WarnerCrocker true but Democrats see Trump's (backed up by his supporters) continual claim that he won in 2020 and J6 despite losing in the courts as disregarding the system. they see the refusal to have hearings and votes on Garland for SCOTUS when they then rushed through Barrett in a similar situation as Republicans disregarding the system.
(DIR) Post #AdJ3nJOI5REwU4o8xc by musashiaharon@rebelbase.site
2023-12-29T15:54:07.533717Z
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Things were better for us when super majorities were required to approve appointments. Now that bare majorities can decide, offices like Justice of the Supreme Court and executive branch directorships are becoming polarized, when they shouldn't be. Those Senate rule changes about appointments were terrible.
(DIR) Post #AdJ3q0KVPaROEhJykK by threalist@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-29T15:57:10.661935Z
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Right. And which party started that change?
(DIR) Post #AdJ43phVj73bKDfx5M by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-12-29T15:59:43.178501Z
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@Frondeur @wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker When you point that to to shitlibs they literally pretend not to hear you in real life.
(DIR) Post #AdJ5I7F1PMkfjaizMu by Frondeur@poa.st
2023-12-29T16:13:31.886741Z
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@caekislove @wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker i ran into similar issues discussing the first impeachment also...they all pretty much acknowledged to me that Biden comitted some sort of activity worth investigating but insisted that trump couldn't legally do anything that would have increased his own chance of being reelected...they would go silent when i asked what else a president couldnt do if it might get him reelected...then i became a nazi...
(DIR) Post #AdJ5OsCLjiZp6dhGsK by caekislove@gleasonator.com
2023-12-29T16:14:44.263883Z
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@Frondeur @wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker They're all about "due process" when it comes to niggers slinging dope and murdering people, though!
(DIR) Post #AdJ8hGyidukT2FmpaC by Sumocat@mastodon.world
2023-12-29T16:51:36Z
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@wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker That is not correct. Trump was charged with insurrection in his second impeachment. That is when he could have first been convicted, but the Senate voted to acquit. Arguably, that means Trump can never be tried for that insurrection attempt again, or at least that’s the argument his lawyers have been making.
(DIR) Post #AdJBlJosJx7ursnqd6 by Squadalah_Man@poa.st
2023-12-29T17:19:59.870109Z
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@caekislove @Frondeur @wjmaggos @WarnerCrocker I forget the way it was said in Reservoir Dogs by the old mob boss, but it was something like "A nigger slashes grandmas throat for a nickel and he gets Dolly Parton for a parole officer, one of my boys gets pinched for a robbery and he gets the biggest prick of a parole officer they have available."