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 (DIR) Post #AdFXkWHHP9P5RZ2OTQ by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:13:31.136919Z
       
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       @ESL_fairy > If anyone has a kid going into med school please encourage them to go into cardiology. > In several years we won’t have enough specialists to treat the massive heart failure pandemic we’re currently causing.https://twitter.com/ESL_fairy/status/1739753489729806773@kasza_leslie@birdsite> As a cardiologist, I would encourage everyone to learn all they can about COVID.  There will be far too much work for every medical student/resident training and physician, generalist or specialist.https://twitter.com/kasza_leslie/status/1739776820122448338Now why do you think they are saying this, @FreeinTX @bot @Ghislaine @Beomus @faust    @MoralPanic   @JedDrudge @ec670?  What do you think they know that you don't?Hint; it's not 'the vaccines'
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFY6ew9tFJyfeiPfk by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:17:31.671035Z
       
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       @jeffcliff why are people who didn't have covid having heart problems too? are they just undiagnosed? like the sports numbers are alarming.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYHLP6qzpPH9Lshs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:19:22.105111Z
       
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       @Moon > why are people who didn't have covid having heart problems too?1) they probably had covid 2) not all heart problems are from covid, heart disease is usually the #1 or #2 cause of death, up there with cancer & stroke3) the sports numbers are reassuring, if anything.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYKirM6RbetHAtFY by allison@hidamari.apartments
       2023-12-27T23:20:01.635340Z
       
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       @Moon @jeffcliff "are they just undiagnosed?" honestly, it's likely.  unless you've been getting PCR tests 24/7 over the course of the entire pandemic, you've likely contracted it unknowingly at least once and written it off as something else entirely/no big deal
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYRA5JnEr147mAuO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:21:14.086754Z
       
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       @allison @Moon especially if it presents itself as an intestinal thing / similar to noropeople are thinking 'oh i'm not coughing/no sore throat so it's not covid' meanwhile covid is fucking up their gut bacteria
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYRYTF7wFghH9cX2 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:21:16.900597Z
       
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       @jeffcliff I have seen numbers of the last few years being massive compared to since 1970 thru 2020 but I haven't seen independent proof of those numbers. It's plausible to me that they had mild covid though.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYUt8qjFw1fyCkz2 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:21:55.079607Z
       
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       @jeffcliff if you have covid without symptoms would you still be likely to have heart problems?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYY4F1uuvsyBbyT2 by allison@hidamari.apartments
       2023-12-27T23:22:26.301908Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon "intestinal thing / similar to noro" any more detailed resources on that?  I've been ultra fucked up gut wise before covid was even a quiver in anyone's eye, but I'd be curious what kinds of problems it could cause in that respect
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYa3avIEWtXhnhAW by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:22:50.125615Z
       
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       @allison @jeffcliff I am really scared of getting covid again.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYb3RrK27PNY2KeG by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:23:02.714477Z
       
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       @Moon i think the jury is still out on that onei've seen some studies but i don't know if even anyone really knowsthe study i posted today suggests otherwise : if it were just cytokines or something causing the damage, then t hat would be likely but ...if it's caused by persistent infection, then it might even be the other way around: the asymptomatic infections that just cause a low-level but permanent infection might be what really does in the heart
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYcosCU0xGkoCPL6 by allison@hidamari.apartments
       2023-12-27T23:23:19.857070Z
       
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       @Moon @jeffcliff me too, the time I had it in april was *not* a good scene to put it mildly
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYeNjiLenpAZyV4y by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:23:38.878857Z
       
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       @Moon @allison i'm doing everything i can do on my end to keep that from happening, for what that's worth
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFYhi0rPuv4vPa6PA by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:24:14.191860Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @allison I go out and do stuff but I do avoid large gatherings.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFZTxpzss1Xu9Vfrk by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:32:56.601595Z
       
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       @ageha @jeffcliff just a infographic shared around, it might be completely bogus.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFZkMKGbZvUUFUC6S by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:35:54.530937Z
       
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       @ageha @jeffcliff if something is actually going on, insurance companies won't be able to deny it forever. I guess we'll see.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFZv1l3Pt6lsk6Q7s by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:37:51.615907Z
       
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       @Moon @ageha They aren't denying it.  They have already begun to deny coverage for people if they've had covid as it's a 'pre-existing condition'.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFa08zByDlzkO9gfo by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-27T23:38:46.041114Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @ageha I mean if a ton more people than normal are dying that were not diagnosed. this would not mean they never had it, but it would be significant.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdFiN1a2TC694YoMQC by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
       2023-12-28T01:12:33.358744Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon ah, probatio covidica, the covid must have hit them without them knowing
       
 (DIR) Post #AdGftS7FF1BHvw4fPk by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-28T12:19:31.563279Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Yeah, don't give jabs to children.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdGu5trPJPkMoaUoRU by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T14:58:38.201024Z
       
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       @FreeinTX @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus > don't give *covid* to children FTFY
       
 (DIR) Post #AdH6D3b2i8vMUJ1LkW by pixie@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T17:13:36.688452Z
       
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       @Moon @jeffcliff I had the original Covid didn’t have any symptoms really just very mild taste and smell issues for a couple months and then went back to normal. Didn’t have anything go weird with my heart or lungs. I’ve also had other variants of Covid and it didn’t do anything to me. I was lucky
       
 (DIR) Post #AdH8P8ZgEDx5JIGtTU by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T17:38:37.475828Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon @ageha when did insurance companies get the right to deny for pre-existing conditions again?https://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/about-the-aca/pre-existing-conditions/index.html
       
 (DIR) Post #AdH9XhTETBLJoDu1KK by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T17:51:42.692111Z
       
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       @feld @Moon @ageha I know nixon made some changes along those lines but i suspect it predates him.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdH9Znw7Oth0RSPvOq by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T17:51:42.337247Z
       
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       @Moon @jeffcliff > In several years we won’t have enough specialists to treat the massive heart failure pandemic we’re currently causing."And COVID's gonna cause a Parkinson's pandemic and the Pulmonary Embolism pandemic and the Renal Failure pandemic..."This is just like the "we only have 20 years" that the climate scientist have been saying for the last 60 years -- there's a kernel of truth somewhere in there but our ability to estimate the scope and timeline is usually wrong and every time we bang this drum we just piss people off and make them lose further trust in climate science. Now we're doing the same for virology / infections diseases. We always think we know more than we really do and we get way too confident about it.So this is just gonna blow up in the faces of public health officials and further erode trust because we're guessing we understand the pathology of people exposed to COVID when in reality it's probably just "we spent a few billion dollars to hyper-focus on this one disease and now we have more data than we've ever had on a novel viral infection and think we're able to draw conclusions with a high level of accuracy" but in reality we probably aren't learning as much as we think.It's like how everyone was screaming about the coral bleaching but weirdly enough we are observing the coral to be recovering in odd ways [1] (and we thought the bleaching was primarily co2, but it's nitrogen [2]), or the Redwood fires were going to be a disaster but hey weird look at that 1000 year old seedlings are taking off [3]We need to stop being over-confident about things or at least journalists need to report news and data more ethically.[1] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/12/231218125955.htm[2] https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/looe-key-study.php[3] https://www.science.org/content/article/ancient-redwoods-recover-fire-sprouting-1000-year-old-buds
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHA5020TvYGvm2w5I by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T17:57:44.999732Z
       
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       > This is just like the "we only have 20 years" that the climate scientist have been saying for the last 60 years60 years ago was 1963 - - before climate measuring satellites were really a thing and before it was clear what our situation was at all.  Really it's been only since about 1990, with the IPCC AR1 that the 'we only have 20 years' really began to take hold - we had little idea of how fucked we were, the best we could do was mostly 'we should be paying attention to this'.  Now we do not have this excuse.We only *had* 20 years to avoid a 1C increase.  We are hitting that, now, after ~20 years of warning about it.  What we're warning about now is much worse.  ie the idea that there's only a 'kernel of truth' here is FUD.And similarly: playing this as something that public health officials are overly warning us about is similarly FUD.  There is no excuse for running the experiment of what long covid does to people.  We shouldn't be running the experiment at all.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHAFwycBBHwdsgJZA by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T17:59:39.359892Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @feld both of these are groups of people that overtly rely on panic to get funding
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHAO5t4vvvEawyWY4 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:01:07.764349Z
       
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       there was apparently some weather satellites by '63here's one of the pictures from one of them, and the kind of data they had to work withhttps://test.nesdis.noaa.gov/s3/styles/webp/s3/migrated/image4.png.webp?itok=uBY0_GkF
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHB1Ur62KvNKFpw8G by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:08:18.893548Z
       
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       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_program ie starting about next year, it'll have been 60 years since the first real weather satellites were launchedTIROS had a lifespan of 78 days, apparently, and its predecessor lasted even less time.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_satellite
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHBXE4vwpkYYmRGHw by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T18:13:44.460056Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon > ie the idea that there's only a 'kernel of truth' here is FUD.They keep telling me that Miami / South Florida is going to be underwater but weird how that's not happening at all and they are building giant skyscrapers next to the bay. Somehow we have banks giving billion dollar loans out for these construction projects and not blinking an eye. You don't give out these loans without due diligence and the city hasn't restricted building/zoning either.Would Miami have some neighborhoods by the shore with consistent flooding issues if we did nothing? Yeah, definitely. But we haven't even installed modern pumping systems yet, the levees the Army Corps designed for us are still yet to be installed, etc. We're a long ways away from the stuff Amsterdam has to deal with and they're doing fine.> There is no excuse for running the experiment of what long covid does to people.  We shouldn't be running the experiment at all.We live in a country built around certain freedoms. The types of restrictions/lockdowns required to completely stop COVID are simply not going to happen here and we need to learn to live with that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHBmjfglj9yt41gUy by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:16:50.871054Z
       
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       @feld @jeffcliff investors fail due diligence constantly but it's hard to believe that almost all of them would
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHCO46zjbwMzqbAK8 by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:23:33.428388Z
       
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       @ageha @feld @jeffcliff the issue with 2008 was that no one thought that it would all collapse at once, not that it was smoke and mirrors. they knew it was a sham. it might be applicable to climate change, but having a hard time making an analogy.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHCvhdLoXh17ylwjA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:29:41.075802Z
       
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       @feld @Moon > They keep telling me that Miami / South Florida is going to be underwater It will.> but weird how that's not happening at allie this is false.  .0034 m/y sea level rise, consistent over those 6 decades, and accelerating, is happening.https://sealevel.nasa.gov/faq/8/is-the-rate-of-sea-level-rise-increasing/But it will take some time.In the meanwhile, more immediate consequences will be* Salt water further inland* Higher water table* More frequent, and worse flooding inland, especially during hurricane seasonhttps://media.rff.org/documents/FCO_Infographics.pdf> and they are building giant skyscrapers next to the bay. Yeah that's probably dumb.> Somehow we have banks giving billion dollar loans Which they are able to do due to easy money from the fed> You don't give out these loans without due diligenceApparently they do.> and the city hasn't restricted building/zoning either.This is the same state that allows cities to ban books about pandemics, funds disinformation on a global scale, and is world renown for hosting superspreader events too. The idea that civic policy is in any way sensible there should be laughable.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHDZuxlfwK03EUxAO by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:36:56.625497Z
       
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       @feld @Moon https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/#/layer/sce/4/-9054891.458677081/2958231.4757332588/9/satellite/35/0.8/2060/extreme/midAccretion here's actual data on what's being projectedkeeping in mind: these projections are usually too conservative.2100 things are not looking good for south florida
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHDf8krpCW8H2xE2a by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:37:52.998263Z
       
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       @ageha @feld @jeffcliff you are right though I'm being stubborn
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHDjnfBfch0J7WGoK by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T18:38:24.842627Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon you are not presenting any new information to me
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHDxTzNcEiBLJUN16 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:41:09.284407Z
       
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       @feld @Moon > but weird how that's not happening at all Then clearly you haven't thought it through is if you're saying this.  The sea level rise is a globally observable event.  The only thing unique about your particular stretch of sealine is that it is actually relatively low land, so it is the *most* affected.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHEIi5wMju5AkgBwu by feld@bikeshed.party
       2023-12-28T18:44:52.468715Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @Moon the sea level rise is real (but it's not from the glaciers *melting*, it's from heat expanding the ocean water), but I live 2 blocks of the bay where people said would be underwater by now but weird it's not underwater yet and this is a large new residential building they constructed in 2018 anyway
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHEg92IMhKpOD9IUi by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-28T18:49:16.657325Z
       
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       @feld @Moon >where people said would be underwater by nowagainThe sea level rise *is* happening.https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8722670If 'people' said it would be underwater by now they were either misreading the rise/yr chart or msireading local elevation maps.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHn0q6tK5cjDNL2R6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:14:00.490210Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus You couldn't if you tried.  Healthy children are virtually immune to covid.  Can you site a single case of a health child with no pre-existing serious health condition dying from Covid?  The jab manufacturers have been forced to admit the common flu is orders of magnitude more dangerous for children than COVID.  You gonna jab kids 3-4 times a year for the rest of their lives?  That's what?  Over 200 jabs in a normal lifespan?  Fuck that shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHnavorZcz1LY7F32 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:20:30.894844Z
       
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       > Healthy children are virtually immune to covid. completely false> he jab manufacturers have been forced to admit the common flu is orders of magnitude more dangerous We just went through this.  COVID is an order of magnitude more dangerous at least.>  You gonna jab kids 3-4 times a year for the rest of their lives? No, because we are going to end covid.> Over 200 jabs in a normal lifespanThose kids aren't going to have a "normal lifespan", if we don't.> Can you cite a single case of a health child with no pre-existing serious health condition dying from Covid? Yeah, actually. Erica Violet Lee's got a cousin who seems to fit that description. https://twitter.com/ericavioletlee/status/1474916377639202824> pre-existing serious health conditionThat's *still* unnecessary children dying of covid.  We used to live in a world where those 'serious' health conditions were not death sentences. The jab manufacturers have been forced to admit the common flu is orders of magnitude more dangerous for children than COVID. You gonna jab kids 3-4 times a year for the rest of their lives? That's what? Over 200 jabs in a normal lifespan? Fuck that shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHo2hGLHyYIJ9CzJY by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:25:32.963430Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Nigger, yes, we went through this.  Old and dying? Covid is more serious.  Under 65, over 1, no pre-existing comorbidities? Covid ain't shit. Under 18 and no pre-existing serious comorbidities?  Virtually fucking immune. Far less serious than the flu. How are you going to "end covid"?  There are literally hundreds of species that can get and transmit covid. It mutates every 3-4 months, and previous jabs don't do shit to stop it. Nor does the current jab prevent infection or spread. And,  like you said, people can get covid repeatedly, so there is no permanent immunity.Serious health conditions,  by fucking definition, are a threat to life.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHo89KyKr5apNySSO by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:26:32.121104Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Where does that tweet say that her 8 year old cousin was healthy with no serious pre-existing comorbidities?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHoXbxV3hWmpq8Vai by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:31:06.413583Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus And the point there being that if your kid has serious pre-existing comorbidities, you will have to take extra precautions to make sure that kid doesn't die.  You don't make the general population take stupid fucking jabs that are untested and proving to be absolute poison just so a very tiny fraction of the population can do whatever they want.   There are kids out there that must live in a fucking bubble.  We gonna change the way the fucking world works so they can lead "normal" lives?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHoeOXrKQAVGENTZg by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:32:20.977256Z
       
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       > Under 65, over 1, no pre-existing comorbidities? Covid ain't shit. This is completely incorrect.  Will it kill you?  Probably not.  But it will cause damage to you.> pre-existing serious comorbiditiesCovid CAUSES a comorbidity. Every time you get it.  Virtually fucking immune. Far less serious than the flu. > How are you going to "end covid"?We've been through this before, too.  Let's start by bombing tel aviv, closing the US-Can / US-Mexico borders and summarily publicly executing the 1000 biggest covidiots in every state.   Re-start mass testing, contact tracing, and vaccination campaigns.  Close the schools, sports venues, and arenas.  Require testing upon entry of every building holding more than 10 people.  Let's *start* with that.> There are literally hundreds of species that can get and transmit covid.No shit.  I've been saying this since like feb 2020.  This is why it's important to get covid under control in *this* species.> It mutates every 3-4 months, It mutates every day. https://nextstrain.org/ncov/open/global/6m> and previous jabs don't do shit to stop itThis is not accurate.  They help, but they are not a silver bullet.> Nor does the current jab prevent infection or spread. The current jab reduces infection and spread.> Serious health conditions,  by fucking definition, are a threat to life.Yes.  And covid is one of them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHorZZBf7g5CwHZZY by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:34:44.114606Z
       
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       > to do researchask her yourself> Where does that tweet say that her 8 year old cousin was healthy with no serious pre-existing comorbidities?  Where does it say that she had them?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHoz2OYsPHie3s7n6 by TalmudTranslator@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:36:05.603919Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @FreeinTX @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Well it was an Indian and 8 would be late for one of them to not be an alcoholic with liver failure.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHp5Ic7UMfmgTCQnA by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:37:12.052574Z
       
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       > And the point there being that if your kid has serious pre-existing comorbidities, you will have to take extra precautions to make sure that kid doesn't dieWhich is increasingly impossible in 'let er rip' saskatchewan and elsewhere.  >  You don't make the general population take stupid fucking jabs that are untested and proving to be absolute poisonNo they aren't "absolute poison"> just so a very tiny fraction of the population can do whatever they want.   It's not.  It's so people like you don't have to die from a preventable heart attack after your 3rd covid infection 3 years into the pandemic.> There are kids out there that must live in a fucking bubble.  And you're just going to say this 8 year old is one of them, with 0 evidence.> We gonna change the way the fucking world works so they can lead "normal" lives?The world HAS changed, thanks to a BSL3 fucking airborn virus, and you have locked yourself into a filter bubble that hasn't clued you into this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHpXlZJQg9wasSbxY by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:42:22.102646Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus No. It not only wont kill you,  it will do no more damage than your average fucking flu.   You have shown nothing to indicate that covid causes serious comorbidities that are any more serious than the common flu in people under 65 and over 1. Your starting point is hilariously fucking retarded. Not only will it result in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, if not billions,  from the resulting global economic collapse,  it won't do anything to stop covid, which again, can be spread by any one of hundreds of species that interact with humans on the daily.  Trying to stop covid in *this* species isn't possible if you can simple catch covid from any other of hundreds of species.Contact tracing and mass testing will not have any impact on the spread simply because you can catch,  and spread,  covid when you aren't showing symptoms, and can be reinfected with the latest variant, so you're never immune. And, even in a room with 9 people, or within your own home,  you can catch and spread covid.Literally a billion people have had covid with no side effects, 1/3 of which,  even before the jab,  never even knew they had it.  You've shown nothing to suggest that covid has any long term effects that are any more severe than the flu.Have you had your holiday variant jab, yet?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHpmNTHIxf6CWbaL2 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:44:59.648178Z
       
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       > No. It not only wont kill you,  it will do no more damage than your average fucking flu.   False.> You have shown nothing to indicate that covid causes serious comorbidities Yes I have.   But I'll dig the graph up,  again, for you, because you seem to have problems remembering it.> Your starting point is hilariously fucking retarded. Not only will it result in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, if not billions,  from the resulting global economic collapse,  COVID is going to cause that.>  Trying to stop covid in *this* species isn't possible if you can simple catch covid from any other of hundreds of species.Yes it is, and we are going to do it.  This is not up for debate.> Contact tracing and mass testing will not have any impact on the spread simply because you can catch,  and spread,  covid when you aren't showing symptoms,Which is why testing needs to be stepped up and improved.> You've shown nothing to suggest that covid has any long term effects that are any more severe than the flu.This is also completely false.  But I'll obviously have to show you more.> Have you had your holiday variant jab, yet?I am fully vaxxed yes
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHq19liX6gO2yHFFg by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:47:40.864576Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus They are absolute poison and wholly ineffective at doing anything beneficial for those under 65, over 1, with no pre-existing serious health problems.How many people under 65 had died from a heart attack (which the study you posted showed was lessened by covid infection if the covid infection didn't put you in the ICU) after getting covid for the 3rd time?  Quot making shit up.There is zero evidence that bish is even telling the truth,  dum dum. You have no idea what the health status of that kid was. You don't even know his/her name (or fucking gender).   I asked for you to cite a single case of a child, under 18, with no pre-existing comorbidities. You just pulled shit out of your ass and flung it onto your screen to waste interweb space.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHqBNjVT7csFi7QpM by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:49:31.711843Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus When was your last jab? Last week, you said a month ago. That was before the new variant and the new jab. You've had one on the last few weeks?  You're a fucking liar, in addition to being a fucking idiot.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHqIactvgwSGfSy5g by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T01:50:48.584327Z
       
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       > They are absolute poison and wholly ineffective at doing anything beneficial for those under 65, over 1,No they aren't. They substantially improve probability of surviving a bout of covid, and substantially improve the chances of not being hospitalized. Again, go relook at the canada covid hazard index data> There is zero evidence that bish is even telling the truth, dum dum. Oh yeah, she'd lie about her dead cousin, and so would her family, who was observed grieving on fb at the same time.  Fuck you.> You have no idea what the health status of that kid was.Neither do fucking you.> You just pulled shit out of your assBecause it's a child who has died, locally, that I know about even in my isolation.  I don't exactly get out a lot to know who is and isn't left standing anymore.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHqzc7yDxTlNLVwI4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T01:58:36.419803Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus So, let's try again.  Can you cite one single fucking case where a child,  under 18, over 1, with no pre-existing serious comorbidities, that has died of Covid?  A case where we can look into it and verify that the kid was healthy?Also,  in your quest to murder 50,000 Americans (one in each state), Mr. Canadian, how does one determine who is the "worst offenders"?  Less than 70% of our country got a single jab. Less than 2/3'rd got the first booster. And,  now, Less than 2% of the country is either "fully jabbed" or "up to date" from the variant BEFORE the current one.  How do you pick the 50,000 people to be murdered by our government on orders from a Canadian? Based on what, exactly?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHuSV0A64WhXFKKJc by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T02:37:25.761827Z
       
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       Here you aren't supposed to get them any more frequently than 6 months (or 3 months from most recent infection), at least the last time I read the rules
       
 (DIR) Post #AdIkZHOUHdUcyXG8x6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T12:21:19.670112Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus So,  your very own "rules" mean that you will never be "fully jabbed" and only "up to date" for a few months out of every year. Yeah, that's gonna stop the vids.  ​
       
 (DIR) Post #AdIklwBATGGuwY45g0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T12:23:36.807532Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Exactly.  Neither of us have any idea as to the health status of that kid.  Yet, you offered it up as proof the healthy kids can die of covid.  Which is evidence of my point.  You can't cite one single fucking case where a healthy child died of covid. Not a single one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdIwjoGA8wHlFi9YJ6 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T14:37:40.703583Z
       
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       @FreeinTX @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus They aren't my rules.  They are the rules of the public healthcare system here.And obviously it's not enough, we clearly need more than just a '3 in 10 people vax' policy
       
 (DIR) Post #AdIwrzu4jgSjgJj5PM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T14:39:06.346059Z
       
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       @FreeinTX @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus The kid is dead.  That's their health status.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJFORNATKYxRxBoIa by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T18:06:43.550663Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus No. You need to prosecute your faggot government suck dicks for grifting your population into taking big pharma poison.  And start treating covid like the common cold. This will make it go away in record time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJFPpEHG8YDjHgvNg by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T18:06:58.601743Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Sure, Jan
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJGIKyBSu0xoA9nYe by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T18:16:48.613493Z
       
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       No.  We need to prosecute our cis/straight government for grifting our population into getting infected with a BSL3 pathogen, and start treating covid like airborne HIV.  That will make it go away in record time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJGhAuC1NrZpk8M8u by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T18:21:19.038402Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus twitter.com/JoshWhoX/status/1740362895303598317?s=20
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJHJpX1QEaGq0jCJU by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T18:28:17.096423Z
       
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       The US has extradition treaties with other nations who can, and will prosecute Dr. Joseph Ladapo for his crimes against humanity.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJKKxs6CR9Ir7oqvY by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:02:07.399445Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Cause giving a professional opinion is now a "crime against humanity". Fuck off, ya dumb fag.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJKtC4Bvfg2j7nTNo by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:08:17.506450Z
       
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       yeah, when your professional opinion helps to kill millions of people
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJL2PIS6rMYMhrQO0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:09:58.462387Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Free speech, nigger. Learn what it means.  Also,  see bodily autonomy (abortionists have used the term for years).  He ain't wrong and you're free to debate his findings.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJLLVPpaEmEqSQ2Ge by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:13:24.518076Z
       
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       Government officials cannot simply use 'free speech' to get out of policies of mass murder.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJLayyjx1WQsR7xK4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:16:13.359548Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus He's not wrong and you've even admitted the DNA in the jabs is concerning.  Studies and statistics are starting to show the concern is real.  And now,  we are finding out that the jab formula on the original safety studies isn't the jab you keep juicing yourself with every 6 months.  The OG jab didn't have the rouge DNA.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJM11xrTLQLfO8Yfg by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:20:55.812622Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus MRNA has always been about making a "vaccine" cheap,  quick, and easy (no need for cultures and growth specimens) so they could market a common cold "vaccine".   The "emergency" was the justification to skip the testing that is normally required.  They had to lie about Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquin to get the EUA because the 10 year testing will show that this shit,1. Doesn't work. 2. Is toxic as fuck.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJM69Z2e0WKgUyE8O by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:21:50.828277Z
       
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       meanwhile the 10 year testing for SARS shows that it is dangerous AF
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJM9xHqEWzNlUjp5c by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:22:32.623634Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Only if you're over 65 and have more than 1 serious and pre-existing comorbidities.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJMBFV40D6GXfXVo0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:22:46.050828Z
       
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       Wrong.  People who got SARS1 much younger also got fucked up
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJMTnXeAuTbKhaoUa by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:26:07.785979Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus No it isn't.  Between rouge DNA, frameshifting, heart attacks, blood clots,  prions disease, immunity disorders, premature births, miscarriages, and infertility, all leading to massive increases in excess deaths not explained by covid, alone, this shit is pure fucking poison, and it doesn't even claim to prevent infection or spread.  Which is why, here in the US, the current jabs get a less than 2% of the population taking them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJMmOTxZNcT79jeK0 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:29:29.400961Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus >The previously unknown coronavirus that caused severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS‐CoV) affected more than 8,000 persons worldwide and was responsible for more than 700 deaths during the first outbreak in 2002–2003.700 whole people IN THE WORLD!Yeah, real fucked up.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJMsKsTsrtRfm2QdM by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:30:33.870420Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Half were over 60.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJNDcwLvJJLm209vk by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:34:23.610956Z
       
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       Yeah, SARS1 was a near miss, "only" killing ~700.  At first.And yeah it sucks for those 700 people....but also sucks for the ones who survived and had their immune systems and vascular systems wrecked
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJNGRs9WsvwJgNmBE by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:34:54.733867Z
       
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       There's you hypothesizing that 4000 people you don't know anything about were sick because it justifies your preconceptions about what a disease does
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJNaT3OqYJJlwBmVM by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T19:38:31.604370Z
       
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       reminder : covid causes  heart attacks, blood clots, prion disease, immunity disorders, premature births, miscarriages,  infertility, and random epigenetic changes we still don't fully understand > all leading to massive increases in excess deaths not explained by covid, No it doesn't. Covid is the cause of the excess death.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJNnxL1Yt93Sgrf2e by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:40:58.658312Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus How many of those other 7300 people had their immune system and vascular system wrecked by yet another man made shit disease meant to make big pharma rich as fuck and give global governance more authority is demand population controls?I showed you that the flu strain in 2017 caused heart conditions for 1 in every 8 ICU patients. Was it as bad as that flu or worse? Proofs, please.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJOHs8lS2Xy1qOYyG by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:46:23.068263Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Well, if it is a "big deal" and the people aren't "protected", where are all the deaths? Where are all the ICU patients?  Where are all the immunity disfinctional people having immunity issues?  Shouldn't we all be dropping dead from covid or because our immunity is all fucked up (you compare unjabbed exposure to getting AIDS)? Where are all the unjabbed, and untreated COVIADS patients?  Less than half our country got anything more than those first 3 jabs,  2 years ago.  98% of our country is unprotected.  Yet, nothing. The studies you've been posting show virtually no issues for those under 65, over 1, with no serious pre-existing comorbidities.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJOndEAQroX2n4BG4 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-29T19:52:07.461848Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Oh, and your pearl clutching over 700 people dying of SARS1 is muted by your demands to kill 50,000 Americans for being the "worst offenders" to your ideology, your demand for total nigger death (which i agree with),  and your demand to exterminate dozens of species from the planet.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJjvnm9CGRJ71hIm0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T23:48:53.676937Z
       
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       Sure.  We should have been willing to sacrifice hundreds of lives to stop SARS1.And we should be willing to sacrifice tens of millions or more to stop covid.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJkJZtuR0TP1wfJVw by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-29T23:53:09.133695Z
       
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       > Well, if it is a "big deal" and the people aren't "protected", where are all the deaths?Covid has been killing people every day for years now.>? Shouldn't we all be dropping dead from covid or because our immunity is all fucked up People *are*.  But there's a lot of people out there.> AIDSTakes years to build up from first infection.  Longer than covid does.>Where are all the unjabbed, and untreated COVIADS patientsFilling up ERs, which we know for sure thanks to ontario's data.> Where are all the ICU patientsHow many times have people like you asked that, and I've looked up the current status of the ER/ICU locally and it's been full?  How many hospitals have stated they are at or over capacity as if the vaccine never even happened this season?Like this one in alberta, where they ran out of stretchers to put patients on.https://twitter.com/PfParks/status/1734641744015175971How many hospitals, like this one, are now openly admitting that cases that would normally be a 'hospitalization' is now a likely 'death', because they are so overwhelmed?https://twitter.com/maolesen/status/1740366249903923282
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJqIPJitkyJdoZ4CW by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T01:00:13.281380Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus So has the cold and flu, meningitis, RSV and literally thousands of other things. How many unjabbed people, under 65, no comorbidities dropping dead? ​ ProofAIDS patients begin showing symptoms usually within a few months and treatments keep them alive for longer.  Millions of untreated AIDS patients would be noticed very quickly.  It's been 4 years, now,  right? Where they at?That link doesn't show anything about unjabbed patients and certainly isn't limited to covid. It's flu season and your Healthcare system sucks.  Canada routinely runs out of beds during cold and flu season,  even before covid.  So does many large cities in the US.  NYC has been doing triage in parking lots and city parks for years, long before covid. You keep trying to conflate covid, flu, colds, and RSV with "unjabbed covidiots". Nothing suggests that's true.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJqNAUZRdvt6suOZ6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T01:01:04.904029Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus How many hundreds? It only killed 700. >Murder people to save the same number of people.Holy fuck
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJqax5e4P1LbAp3uy by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-30T01:03:33.574804Z
       
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       > So has the cold and flu, meningitis, RSV and literally thousands of other things. Those 'thousands of other things' haven't gone away.  But they are now fighting for ER space with the unnecessary and preventable covid> AIDS patients begin showing symptoms usually within a few months and treatments keep them alive for longerSometimes.   Usually lt takes longer.> The time between HIV transmission and an AIDS diagnosis is usually 10-15 yearshttps://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/hiv-aids-difference> . It's flu season and your Healthcare system sucks.This is true.> s. Canada routinely runs out of beds during cold and flu seasonBut when flu season ends, things go back to some degree of normalcy.  They *haven't* since 2022.> You keep trying to conflate covid, flu, colds, and RSV with "unjabbed covidiots".No, I don't.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJqiHq7K1x7ym3aNs by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-30T01:04:53.350405Z
       
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       >Murder people to save the same number of people.Yes.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJruONcvkQph34DQG by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T01:18:17.405392Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus You're fucking retarded.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJs0eC13HgeTOcQC0 by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-30T01:19:24.576729Z
       
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       I'm serious about danger posed by a disease that can go person to person to person.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJsU3swbiDiYRiwhU by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T01:24:44.061906Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus You keep insisting that "covid causes comorbidities" to avoid the point that healthy people with no comorbidities, under 65 have little to worry about with covid.   Fine, show me the study that takes that info account.   A "pre-existing comorbidities" that was documented before the onset of the covid the caused the death.  Show me some numbers of people under 65, with no previously diagnosed comorbidities, dropping dead of covid. And no,  early symptoms of aids are fairly rapid.  Most notably flu like symptoms that do not go away.  The length of time between getting hiv and getting AIDS is 10-15 years because the put you in anti-virals to stop the progression into full blown immunity system collapse.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJsXpkX6aWxs7aX4q by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T01:25:25.163224Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus Like the common cold has done over the entire history of humanity? You're a delusional freak.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdJtVgjRlFfnHOcZ6G by jeffcliff@shitposter.club
       2023-12-30T01:36:13.600474Z
       
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       Neither SARS 1/2 is the common cold
       
 (DIR) Post #AdKLEe4JCyMQoR2aR6 by FreeinTX@poa.st
       2023-12-30T06:46:53.820062Z
       
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       @jeffcliff @faust @ESL_fairy @JedDrudge @Ghislaine @MoralPanic @bot @Beomus I didn't say it was the common cold.  I said we've been dealing with viruses that can transmit from human to human for the entirety of mankind,  and high speed international air travel and air- sealed buildings only serve to speed up spread times.  Social distancing and masking only served to slow the spread.  There was never any intention of stopping the transmission of covid with these mechanisms. Also, zenodo.org/records/8361577Lmfao!