Post AdHbxzVCqcURyn9Ols by enthusiast101@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AdHbxxxqZADBD2XF8S by Brendanjones@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-28T18:30:47Z
       
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       I have a #Fediverse / #ActivityPub question: How suited is AP to sharing private content between people?I was wondering this while reading (good read, I recommend): https://www.theverge.com/23990974/social-media-2023-fediverse-mastodon-threads-activitypub. The idea is basically that we build Fediverse replacements for existing platforms. But so far, it seems that the successful Fediverse apps are copying open(ish) platforms like Twitter, or creating open versions of closed platforms (Pixelfed).So what's possible, and what are the limits of AP?#Question
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHbxzVCqcURyn9Ols by enthusiast101@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-28T18:49:08Z
       
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       @Brendanjones Activity pub can do private conversations assuming both platforms handle that correctly. The issue is that you have to trust the server admins of all parties involved, since it's not end to end encrypted.As for the limits, I think it's mainly that the base protocol is limited to ensure it can be adapted to anything, even if imperfectly. Many mastodon clients don't play peertube videos properly, and it's a challenge to properly follow lemmy posts on other platforms.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHbxzvRH5TRI9QLey by Brendanjones@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-28T18:33:35Z
       
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       I don't have any good idea of Friendica's features and how private they truly are. If anyone knows something about that, I'd be glad to hear it.#friendica
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHby0ZUs9W5IOAL68 by Brendanjones@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-28T18:59:17Z
       
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       @enthusiast101 okay so AP can do private exchange of posts (not accessible to anyone except for the sender and receiver), but not encrypted in transit (also not at rest? So the server admin can always see post if they desire?). Is that correct?
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHby1xdhsQFbYT8Mq by liaizon@social.wake.st
       2023-12-28T19:04:53Z
       
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       @Brendanjones @enthusiast101 AP has no concept of encryption, it could be used but currently no AP projects have really implemented E2EE. Thats not to say it cant be done but its not part of the standards so far. There are many other protocols that are designed with that in mind from the start that are much better suited.
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHby1zPbHq9h3IY88 by Brendanjones@fosstodon.org
       2023-12-28T18:37:48Z
       
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       The kind of platforms I'm curious if they can exist on the Fediverse while maintaining (or even improving on current) privacy:- Platforms where my profile and content are only accessible to the people I choose. (Facebook, Instagram, etc)- E2EE messaging. (Whatsapp, Signal, etc)- Platforms where I don't care too much if my actions & content are accessible to people outside of my followers, but I don't want this content searchable outside of the platform, or to be scrape-able. (Goodreads)
       
 (DIR) Post #AdHby2hMxr0BtNree8 by evan@cosocial.ca
       2023-12-28T19:06:18Z
       
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       @liaizon @Brendanjones @enthusiast101 it's possible but not well-defined. Here's a sketch from my blog.https://evanp.me/2023/05/19/end-to-end-encrypted-messages-over-activitypub/
       
 (DIR) Post #AdItiswcwJg5d8soOu by cjd@pkteerium.xyz
       2023-12-29T14:03:52.720529Z
       
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       I think ActivityPub focus is a bit over-thinking. What makes the Fedi work so well is:1. Simple protocols which can be independently reimplemented2. AGPL licensed software so the commons is protected from proprietary competitionThere's no reason why AP can't be extended and/or an implementation can't mode-switch once it detects that it is communicating with another implementation which supports additional capabilities.