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(DIR) Post #AdGmffFCKimOH7AONE by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T13:35:24Z
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I dunno whats worse, the fact that Biden's senility is so bad he is a laughing stock, or the fact that people, fully seeing his senility, might still find it better than Trump, and they arent entierly wrong either.
(DIR) Post #AdGmnz90EGQEJKEjM8 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-12-28T13:36:57.201220Z
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@freemo I mean, they are wrong that #JoeBiden is better than #Trump, although perhaps less so than they would be in, say, 2016 or 2019
(DIR) Post #AdGmukXcv85731yoPQ by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T13:38:08Z
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@realcaseyrollins I mean, I find them both to be so far into the absolute shit category that comparing them is a pointless exercise. Its like debating which pedophile would make a better babysitter.
(DIR) Post #AdGn4U5UwwT2uhSsQC by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-12-28T13:39:55.423571Z
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@freemo I mean, in general #Trump was a pretty good president, although I still hold his treatment of #MikePence and the #COVID19 stimulus checks against him. Both of those things were at best, severe lacks of judgement, which is why I’m not exactly supporting him during the #GOP primary process. We can certainly do better than him this time around.
(DIR) Post #AdGnKzdZPuZROcH23c by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T13:42:53Z
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@realcaseyrollins We havent had a "good" president in yours or my lifetime. Trump did things intentionally to look good due to the idiocy of the american people at the expense of actual long term harm constantly.For example people will say he did good on economy by looking at unemployment or stock figures. When the truth is he engaged in massive QE on a level never before conducting in US history. It has the known effect of creating a short term temporary spike in economy at the expense of massive crippling long term inflation. Everyone was screaming foul. Now here we are suffering from those effects but because Trump manipulated the situation everyone is going to blame it on Biden instead.Thats **not** a good president, thats a president with an ego, a president who cares how people see him, not what good he actually does.
(DIR) Post #AdGnfnhOzw8CS3zJ7w by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-12-28T13:46:39.893019Z
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@freemo Well #QE isn’t the only policy of his that affected the economy, he also did things like approve new pipelines and deregulated certain sectors to a degree. Production boomed under his presidency, keeping pace with the #QE, which is why he got away with it. He really shouldn’t have used #QE in the way that he did, because that would have made the economy boom even more.But what makes you think that #Trump did this merely for optics’ sake?
(DIR) Post #AdGpMwveeo0XU3nEuG by Baley@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:05:39Z
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@freemo Trump is a horrible person. Full stop. On behalf of trans people, woman and their right to choose, people of color or of a religion not Christian, or needing a hand up in this world at all, I have to say you are woefully lacking in empathy for anyone except yourself.
(DIR) Post #AdGpdqj8y6hfAk02u8 by Baley@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:06:57Z
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@freemo I know you would like to debate this but there is no debate.
(DIR) Post #AdGpdrcndBDrxM2Uee by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:08:40Z
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@Baley Huh, Trump is a horrible person, I agree... why does him being a horrible person me that **I** am lacking of empathy for others? Also why would I want to debate trump being a horrible person, I say it daily.... your response is very confusing.
(DIR) Post #AdGpe4v0CoVXBZeiKe by chris@abraham.su
2023-12-28T14:08:43Z
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@freemoI'm worried about choice C
(DIR) Post #AdGpoo6h3BzUEPEwNc by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:10:41Z
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@Baley My best guess is you totally misread my post.. nothign in it disagrees with you, trump is a bad person.
(DIR) Post #AdGqBicLct3BrmyGrg by Baley@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:14:50Z
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@freemo Yeah, I still don't want to debate this.
(DIR) Post #AdGqQd9GF6P1FRTbRw by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T14:17:31Z
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@Baley Why would we debate something we agree on though?
(DIR) Post #AdGuPDsD82DiO05N1E by DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca
2023-12-28T15:02:00Z
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@freemo @realcaseyrollins Complex systems take time to change… best practice is to look back a government of two to explain what you see now. The announcement of a thing isn’t the thing itself… that will take time. If a program is good look for an announcement ten years ago, and thank that person. If things are shitty, look for a change made 4-6 years ago.If I’m running full tilt across a field and trip, I won’t find the hole that tripped me where my body landed.
(DIR) Post #AdGuiWqqnDMukPegaG by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T15:05:34Z
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@DavidM_yeg Its more nuanced than that. Some changes will and do happen instantly, others may take a life time. For example stock prices will usually suddenly shift around an election. This effect is immediate and will ripple out to effect the economy. These effects are usually the day of the election and repeated on inauguration day.Public perception can have huge impacts on economy but the much larger and long lasting effects tend to take time as you say.@realcaseyrollins
(DIR) Post #AdGv8rOz0cNS0sAzMe by DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca
2023-12-28T15:10:20Z
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@freemo @realcaseyrollins Point taken, but to what extend to those immediate effects work out ‘in the wash’ as notable but in the end not necessarily more significant than any other demonstration of market volatility? My point is that we generally pay too much attention to economic weather and are blind to the things that affect the economic climate.
(DIR) Post #AdGvCBfQ7VvXjVS1aK by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T15:10:56Z
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@DavidM_yeg fair@realcaseyrollins
(DIR) Post #AdGvGYFa69HWvqRiQy by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-12-28T15:11:44.321760Z
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@freemo @DavidM_yeg While you’re right, stock prices are 50% perception. The general idea of someone doing something can impact stock prices.
(DIR) Post #AdGveXtN57ewlrUzOy by DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca
2023-12-28T15:13:14Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo And that’s why stock prices are a pretty shitty way to measure the health of your nation and its economy
(DIR) Post #AdGvutHrIs9bl9kLi4 by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T15:19:00Z
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@DavidM_yeg Well stock prices are a great measure of **perceived** economic health.@realcaseyrollins
(DIR) Post #AdGwqE8YSM1wvljcGW by DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca
2023-12-28T15:29:20Z
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@realcaseyrollins @freemo Yup. Having survived half a century on this planet, I find it is more fruitful to spend my time on uncovering what actually *is* rather than other people’s perception of what they decided it ought to be.
(DIR) Post #AdGx6qKCF7Lo096SPY by freemo@qoto.org
2023-12-28T15:32:21Z
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@DavidM_yeg Its not their perception of what "it ought to be" though, its their perception of what is. That perception may be true it may not. But even if it isnt true its equally as important as it effects the truth.How people perceive the economy, particularly over long periods of time, effect how they spend and invest, and that has very real quantifiable long term results. You simply cant seperate one from the other, which is why the stock markets value is a very critical metric and neccesary (among many factors) in assessing both the current situation but more importantly what the economy will look like in the future.@realcaseyrollins