Post AdCJHgO4kyw1ZFgxdY by collectifission@greennuclear.online
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(DIR) Post #AdBGDwLMzmTqsOzRwm by danluu@mastodon.social
2023-12-25T20:49:45Z
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"Unfortunately, a recent software update was not successful. Your vehicle cannot be driven.Please call customer support"
(DIR) Post #AdBHH9glw0sd5Z687E by szkodnix@mk.szkod.ovh
2023-12-25T21:50:02.050Z
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@danluu@mastodon.social It is fake, right?
(DIR) Post #AdBJ4DSKois8urIpd2 by tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
2023-12-25T22:10:11.289Z
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@danluu@mastodon.social The future is now
(DIR) Post #AdCJHfUQ5uPomdeVt2 by eliasp@mastodon.social
2023-12-25T20:53:20Z
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@danluu Atomic updates and rollbacks seem to be foreign concepts to the car industry.
(DIR) Post #AdCJHgO4kyw1ZFgxdY by collectifission@greennuclear.online
2023-12-26T00:26:34Z
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@eliasp Or even running two OS'es side by side, so the other can take over if one fails for whatever reason. If NASA can do this on Mars rovers twenty years ago, I'm sure it's not too much of an ask now.
(DIR) Post #AdCJHhOozh7qhr34RE by ElTico@greennuclear.online
2023-12-26T00:37:28Z
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@collectifission @eliasp Even cheap motherboards for computer desktops have two bios chips in case the main one gets damaged or corrupted during a bios update. Imagine spending a $20k or more for a car that gets broken because the manufacturer couldn't spare a few cents on a backup ROM.
(DIR) Post #AdCJHi8YFfhmzgRaiW by Revertron@zhub.link
2023-12-26T09:47:10Z
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@ElTico @collectifission @eliasp Now every Android phone has A-B partitions for such purpose.
(DIR) Post #AdCRdQjaQzOr1adOlM by jackc@kompost.cz
2023-12-26T11:20:49Z
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@danluu What car?
(DIR) Post #AdCcDLN0r1xkM3q64W by niclas@angrytoday.com
2023-12-26T13:19:26Z
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@danluu The electronics-free Dodge Dart GT from 1964 starts looking like a keeper!
(DIR) Post #AdChadNWZ8Yidb0Hke by nuthatch@infosec.exchange
2023-12-25T20:59:39Z
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@danluu looks like a Ford Mach E Why are car manufacturers so bad at software? Why are almost all hardware makers terrible at software?
(DIR) Post #AdChaeF3M7NRJc32Bc by kentindell@mastodon.social
2023-12-25T22:12:55Z
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@nuthatch @danluu They’re not all terrible at software. A car is not a phone on wheels. A car is not a Windows PC on wheels. A car is not a web server on wheels. The problem domain is a lot more difficult than anything you’ve encountered in mainstream computing. For a start, if it goes wrong then people can be injured or die.
(DIR) Post #AdChafHDVYhaWc4HCK by OliverNoble@mastodon.world
2023-12-25T22:59:08Z
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@kentindell @nuthatch @danluu well i guess a car that wont move is probably safe...but its hardly a graceful failure if the fall back is just to break everythingIts also a piss-poor user experience
(DIR) Post #AdChag6cQRop627KJk by kentindell@mastodon.social
2023-12-25T23:03:22Z
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@OliverNoble @nuthatch @danluu That’s how it’s supposed to work. Safety comes first, then comes reliability.
(DIR) Post #AdChagyVC6v7n9KMIy by johntimaeus@infosec.exchange
2023-12-25T23:25:09Z
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@kentindell @OliverNoble @nuthatch @danluu Part of safety is not pushing an update that breaks the system in the first place.Plus when an update is performed >>NOT PUSHED<<, the system verifies that it received the update correctly, checks signatures, then runs the software.If there is an error, it reverts to previous state >>WITHOUT USER INTERVENTION<<A vehicle which fails to move because the Mfg pushed software is unsafe, not unreliable.
(DIR) Post #AdChahwPbMqImxMCga by nuthatch@infosec.exchange
2023-12-25T21:01:39Z
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@danluu are hardware makers also terrible at hardware but it’s just harder for the average person to tell 🤔
(DIR) Post #AdChamX4X0Xn1oXXNo by nuthatch@infosec.exchange
2023-12-26T03:59:04Z
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@danluu the dealer offered this guy a $30 Lyft card good job everyonehttps://www.reddit.com/r/MachE/comments/18m3ne2/comment/ke2pml3/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
(DIR) Post #AdCmCD2TLMJZlfKU9A by iamwaseem@mas.to
2023-12-26T06:25:54Z
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@danluu imagine having to go somewhere urgently and you are in this situation.You've paid so much for the vehicle but you can't trust it because of this.
(DIR) Post #AdCmCE63PWm3340rMu by tyx@lor.sh
2023-12-26T15:11:15Z
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@iamwaseem @danluu Windows update are exactly like this. I had to wait more than once till presenter's PC finishes updates on conferences/seminars.
(DIR) Post #AdCmsPHqCEzPusdhIG by megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social
2023-12-26T01:36:51Z
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@danluu Rise of the Machines would last less than a second before it choked on a fatal error.
(DIR) Post #AdCmsPu7ttc9pcYGy8 by tyx@lor.sh
2023-12-26T15:18:52Z
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@megatronicthronbanks @danluu It won't the code at that point will be written by AI, not Ford engineers.
(DIR) Post #AdCy16mJTl2ecDFCc4 by iamwaseem@mas.to
2023-12-26T17:23:43Z
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@tyx @danluu this is why production PCs should never have Windows.
(DIR) Post #AdCz6sBOl0Gh2YI3SS by thatbrickster@shitposter.club
2023-12-26T17:35:59.757980Z
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@danluu Ford never ceases to disappoint me.
(DIR) Post #AdD32vmnollOsFA4y8 by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-26T18:20:05.467Z
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@danluu@mastodon.social have you tried turning it off then on again?