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(DIR) Post #AdBStFCeyofIguNUbA by kaia@brotka.st
2023-12-26T00:00:13.130900Z
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How it started in 2019: Elon Musk: Any other car than a Tesla in 3 years will be like ‘owning a horse’How it's going end of 2023:Elon Musk's Tesla recalls two million cars in US over Autopilot defect
(DIR) Post #AdBSz81ca3iCAN1KZE by allison@hidamari.apartments
2023-12-26T00:01:16.327347Z
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@kaia and I've still never seen a cybertruck in my life
(DIR) Post #AdBTEJpoxFzb8YkCxM by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-26T00:02:44.653841Z
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@kaia Me: A well trained horse is close enough to an autopilot car.
(DIR) Post #AdBTWyaEBvzMjFLame by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-26T00:06:57.128547Z
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@allison @kaia I've seen few Teslas but those are really rare, like more rare than 70~80's cars.Cybertruck? I'd wonder if they're even legal in France.
(DIR) Post #AdBTXtI7LwN2baJQy8 by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:06:58.493680Z
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@kaia have you checked what the defect is?
(DIR) Post #AdBTYNjo9YLV29UyIK by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-26T00:07:29.367517Z
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@kaia He wasn't wrong -- the Tesla recalls are futuristic because you don't do anything but install an update. No more scheduling appointments with the dealer months in advance!
(DIR) Post #AdBTcAsRuVtIJ0LgtE by allison@hidamari.apartments
2023-12-26T00:08:19.902651Z
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@lanodan @kaia I see a lot of Teslas where I am due to squarely being in automobile alley among rich virtue signallers but still not a single cybertruck
(DIR) Post #AdBTvVShbKijeMWYim by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-26T00:11:22.898032Z
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@allison @kaia Rich virtue signalers I don't think so but I do live right next to a bunch of auto sellers (like at least 5 shops within walking distance) and none of those seem to sell Teslas.
(DIR) Post #AdBTy9YNVqhsZSRPKy by allison@hidamari.apartments
2023-12-26T00:12:15.906502Z
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@lanodan @kaia You're in France, it's different. They're everywhere in burgerstan.
(DIR) Post #AdBU1QzL99tPVrcJ2u by allison@hidamari.apartments
2023-12-26T00:12:53.026206Z
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@lanodan @kaia (also Tesla deliberately eschews dealers in favor of direct orders from the company)
(DIR) Post #AdBU1kcKARMkOH0Cwq by sll@pouet.chapril.org
2023-12-26T00:10:36Z
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@lanodan not as reliable tho @kaia
(DIR) Post #AdBU1lR17xuovUigxk by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-26T00:12:24.998323Z
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@sll @kaia Depends, like a horse doesn't drives into obstacles like walls.
(DIR) Post #AdBU3gMWxQ2Bm2XHzU by fzer0@nerdculture.de
2023-12-26T00:12:26Z
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@kaia The Tesla horse
(DIR) Post #AdBUBQjqvjthdN8gz2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2023-12-26T00:14:12.189625Z
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@allison @kaia Ah… so I guess they're lost into the horribly messy industrial areas of my city, meaning you'd need a car to go there or enjoy really slow and infrequent buses, lol.
(DIR) Post #AdBUIuOH5EKzcoc0lk by kaia@brotka.st
2023-12-26T00:16:03.677966Z
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@lain > NHTSA reported that it has found 16 crashes into emergency vehicles and trucks with warning signs, causing 15 injuries and one death. https://apnews.com/article/technology-health-business-8fc617fc492847d15bf253558ed1f925https://apnews.com/article/tesla-autopilot-recall-driver-monitoring-system-8060508627a34e6af889feca46eb3002
(DIR) Post #AdBUXnDY2DBhipgyh6 by sll@pouet.chapril.org
2023-12-26T00:18:06Z
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@lanodan indeed! I phrased it poorly... wouldn't exchange my old mare for any brand new Tesla @kaia
(DIR) Post #AdBVBEcE6ShjzP2i6y by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:25:20.864894Z
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@kaia gracias, and I shouldn't be obtuse. The "recall" is a software update OTA. The "problem" is people using devices explicitly meant to circumvent Tesla safety mechanisms while using autonomous driving (fake hands that grab the steering wheel). Relative safety numbers between human driving and automatic driving are pretty much never talked about, even though that would be the statistic to know.
(DIR) Post #AdBVPRIrj9gzOTlBkO by twinspin6@outerheaven.club
2023-12-26T00:28:28.885870Z
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@lain @kaia >fake hands that grab the steering wheelwell this was to be expected tbhppl really like to circumvent safety mechanisms
(DIR) Post #AdBVXyZptsacuIli8u by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:29:41.977044Z
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@twinspin6 @kaia yeah, and then they get decapitated and the news say "another dead while using autonomous driving"
(DIR) Post #AdBVdx6aHkdI50w5YW by twinspin6@outerheaven.club
2023-12-26T00:31:05.820396Z
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@lain @kaia ah yes, quality journalism (sensationalism)
(DIR) Post #AdBVlu5ZNrkl2dFjv6 by kaia@brotka.st
2023-12-26T00:32:28.946726Z
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@lain that makes sense. interesting arguments on how safe it must be to beat a human, seeing Tesla already claims it's safer than humans.I'm not competent to speak on it. my only Tesla news are from Thunderf00t with a strong anti-Tesla-bias, and from Dr. KnowItAll who is an amusing Tesla-stan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFxTTC-tm0
(DIR) Post #AdBVu3QcXlecK9zBLM by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:33:13.516532Z
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@kaia safety concerns BUSTED
(DIR) Post #AdBW0XhsskKBy79e40 by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:34:08.404193Z
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@ageha @kaia that might be the case, although the high profile robo-driving issues happened when the hugh-man wasn't paying attention at all.
(DIR) Post #AdBWZFVuW1QZgA6TAm by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:40:52.792064Z
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@ageha @kaia no, hundreds of thousands of people use the self-driving features of cars every day without catastrophic failures.
(DIR) Post #AdBWaIcuQYeDcgsTbc by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-26T00:41:16.982372Z
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@lain @kaia @twinspin6 there may be some meat to the claims of Tesla Autopilot shutting off moments before an impending crash so it appears "off" at time of crash to the regulators but I believe so far there's insufficient proof
(DIR) Post #AdBWmSzfhyrxFdKIlc by lain@lain.com
2023-12-26T00:43:32.710123Z
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@feld @kaia @twinspin6 I have no special love for Tesla, and they haven't delivered on full self driving after promising it for years, but the nonsense that regulators want leads to stupid headlines that make the situation seem very different than it actually is.
(DIR) Post #AdBWt2z4oGosbwBaU4 by scathach@stereophonic.space
2023-12-26T00:44:59.825841Z
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@kaia >owning a c*r>not riding a horsengmi
(DIR) Post #AdBXRNgEMvl8e0k6Bk by feld@bikeshed.party
2023-12-26T00:50:02.079445Z
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@lain @kaia @twinspin6 I've probably put 20,000 miles on FSD and I can tell you for highway driving it's so cautious it's annoying and can make you miss exits because of traffic. It is not aggressive. It does not accelerate fast either which is annoying as hell too.For street driving it just doesn't understand some intersections well so I rarely use it but I'd never let it make a turn for me, only keep going straight until I need to turn.I see a lot of claims by people of autopilot doing crazy things like driving erratically through intersections and that's bullshit -- e.g., if it doesn't see signs/lights it would coast through like any other idiot who never stopped, not be erratic.The bad BMW drivers sold their M3s and got their Teslas, that's all we're seeing lol
(DIR) Post #AdBXciemibJSt6TN2G by Christmas_Man@thebag.social
2023-12-26T00:53:13.283389Z
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I never use autopilot, only the speed sensitive cruise control, but there are warnings and alerts at every step of the way to enable it and use it. If the steering wheel input conflicts too much with what the cameras/sensors are telling the autopilot, then an alert sounds and the dash flashes a warning that autopilot/cruise control is disabled until you stop the vehicle and park. When I bought some new fitted floor mats for mine, I saw the little steering wheel weights that are supposed to simulate a hand resting on the wheel in the "people also bought" section of Amazon.
(DIR) Post #AdBZO3YourVNHgopOq by meowski@fluf.club
2023-12-26T01:13:02.438400Z
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@ageha @kaia @lain no man you gota pay attention if you want to drive. you do not zone out and black out and then just appear at home
(DIR) Post #AdI8OceJ7WxzSB9NSq by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-12-27T21:15:21Z
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@kaia @lain Wow, such scary figures