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 (DIR) Post #Ad3Apqbpog4DlALKDo by parismarx@mastodon.online
       2023-12-21T23:50:03Z
       
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       Substack’s response to the open letter isn’t a surprise, but it does confirm they absolutely will not abandon the right-wing framing of free speech they’ve adopted which not only accepts hate speech, but actively defends racism, transphobia, and other forms of bigotry.I’ve already been looking into moving to a new platform, and will put more emphasis on that after the holidays.https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/21/24011232/substack-nazi-moderation-demonetization-hamish-mckenzie
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3AprQskstsJUE5my by aardvark@ioc.exchange
       2023-12-21T23:51:12Z
       
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       @parismarx a house with no rules isn't a healthy place to be, so good on ya', and good luck with the move.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3ApsRczb5hS5aCae by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T00:00:14Z
       
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       @aardvark @parismarx They do have rules. They abide by the first amendment of the US constitution and legal precedents of protected free speech. It is simple. Speech is allowed unless it is criminal such as calling for imminent violence against someone. If you want freedom from Substack, https://ghost.org/ works similarly. You host it yourself. You define your own rules.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3B2GuZqoa0oH2AL2 by paninid@mastodon.world
       2023-12-22T00:02:28Z
       
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       @Bernard @aardvark @parismarx Does Ghost integrate RSS-to-podcasting platforms?
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3BDPz4SZkq8JS0mG by aardvark@ioc.exchange
       2023-12-22T00:04:26Z
       
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       @Bernard @parismarx hello Substack-apologist. The first amendment restricts the activity of the federal government. Substack is not the federal government. I hope that helps.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3BgBKK2BBH4Y6ewa by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T00:09:43Z
       
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       @paninid It supports RSS and email newsletters. I have not seen anybody use it for audio, but it might work. Castopod could be a better choice if you intend to mainly distribute podcasts.@aardvark @parismarx
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad3seHE1QfdqodUv1U by ianbetteridge@writing.exchange
       2023-12-22T08:11:08Z
       
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       @Bernard @aardvark @parismarx Porn is protected free speech under the US constitution. It is banned on Substack. It’s a bogus argument to say they are just following the USC - they are making their own choices, based on their own values.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4ZMtJu92VH7yZDcG by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T16:09:50Z
       
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       @ianbetteridge @aardvark @parismarx Thank you for correcting my statement. Porn is a rather easily identifiable classification of content that requires a special set of processes and tools to manage. Look at Pornhub's recent $1.8M fine. I can understand why Substack and most platforms choose to avoid that business.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4ZVXXwT4DKCjFzua by aardvark@ioc.exchange
       2023-12-22T16:11:25Z
       
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       @Bernard so you're saying that because there are fines, the easily understandable explanation is that it's not profitable? If that were the case, wouldn't Pornhub just be out of business (I don't think it's suffering financially; am I wrong?)
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4aON7avfMJnb4xsm by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T16:21:19Z
       
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       @aardvark I am not saying that. Running a porn business requires a very different set of processes, staffing, and tools to avoid illegal content and problems such as child porn, snuff films, and so forth. It opens attack surface. That is not the kind of business anybody can or would want to do just because they have a platform. Pornhub and others already do that, and there would probably be no upside for Substack to go there.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4adtLLPZxe4ouWsC by aardvark@ioc.exchange
       2023-12-22T16:24:07Z
       
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       @Bernard "Porn is a rather easily identifiable classification of content" and "a porn business requires a very different set of processes, staffing, and tools to avoid illegal content" don't fit together. Further, any content-hosting business has the same challenge of keeping illegal content off of the service. No content-hosting service gets to wave their hands and say "we don't need to moderate", even nazi-content-hosting sites, because there is plenty of illegal content they must avoid serving.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4cAz715FnfTlYL6u by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T16:41:19Z
       
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       @aardvark Yes some moderation is always needed to stay legal. Laws differ by jurisdictions. I am only guessing that Substack wants to reduce the amount of costly and difficult moderation they would need to do if they hosted porn. Businesses need to retain focus on core competencies and differentiators to stay in business.  Their rules are more straightforward than many platforms which is a differentiator that attracts people. If they started censoring speech, their business might collapse.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4lKXlQWADb8x5TPs by aardvark@ioc.exchange
       2023-12-22T18:23:53Z
       
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       @Bernard it’s already heading that direction for failure to moderate.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad4lrlzUdxUCp7VnLE by Bernard@friends.ravergram.club
       2023-12-22T18:29:54Z
       
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       @aardvark Maybe, but I don't see that. Most of the writers I follow there don't like Nazism but defend the right of people to talk about Nazism. Once that is no longer allowed, they will jump to somewhere else, because they know that whatever views they express could be next on the list of crime think.