Post Ad2TODGrfeqPuH6vvk by EvilSandmich@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #Ad2S69Ifb0laQNmHZI by paw@mstdn.io
       2023-12-21T08:11:56Z
       
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       Finally got around to watching #Oppenheimer. Mixed feelings about it. On one level, it's an interesting biopic about American society, its attitudes, conscience and justifications at the time. It looks at Oppenheimer's life and achievements with nuance. On another level, it's a conceited, arrogant film that puts one man under a microscope without even a passing thought for the utter devastation and genocide America unleashed on a civilian population.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2S6BSJa7fb6sJ0sa by amerika@noagendasocial.com
       2023-12-21T15:38:58Z
       
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       @paw 1. "Genocide" is not used correctly here2. Democracy was tired of the war and supported a quick end3. Lives were possibly saved over those dying in firebombing raids4. Loss of life would have certainly been higher with an invasion5. Do not get your history from Hollywood, for fuck's sake...but I share the sentiment: nothing will make me like the nuking of Hiroshima, the World Wars, or the Civil War.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2S6Qb1I2Xu4DUg1w by paw@mstdn.io
       2023-12-21T08:13:45Z
       
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       The film gives a free pass for the only country in history to deploy a nuclear weapon on another country and fails to examine the true moral failings of the nation that allowed it to happen.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2T6G64QRsvSUV65A by not_br549@jollyville.net
       2023-12-21T15:50:12.733943Z
       
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       Horrific as it was, it wasn't genocide.  There was no attempt to exterminate the entirety of Japan's people.  It was genocide when Attaturk attempted to exterminate all of the Armenians, for example.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2TODGrfeqPuH6vvk by EvilSandmich@poa.st
       2023-12-21T15:53:27.789465Z
       
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       @paw I'm pretty torn on this as the Japanese military were *not* nice people and were some of history's worst monsters.  Still, even by the time the nukes fell Japan had been reduced to a nation of tree-bark eating orphans (at least the part of Japan not still rampaging through Manchuria).
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2UiFXN3S3mgHwvlw by brimshae@poa.st
       2023-12-21T16:08:17.275502Z
       
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       @EvilSandmich @paw The nuking was also an attempt to prevent a genocide. Japan's culture at the time would have seen them fighting to the last man, woman, and child.By showing them with no uncertainty that they *would* be obliterated their leadership was able to come to their senses with regards to fighting a losing battle.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad2VWbgB0O8ppg52wK by EvilSandmich@poa.st
       2023-12-21T16:17:23.058104Z
       
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       @brimshae @paw Yes, thank you, that needs to be noted too as the U.S. actually made an effort to preserve *something*, which was a far better deal than they were ever going to get from the Chinese or the Russians (or even their own people).  For instance one of their unfounded fears was that the American Empire was going to frog-march-humiliate the Emperor but that was clearly a case of projection.
       
 (DIR) Post #Ad322t3Z860jWjSNUm by paw@mstdn.io
       2023-12-21T22:21:22Z
       
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       @amerika 1. Fair. Perhaps "democide" might be a better phrase.5. Trust me, I do not. I'm more interested to see what Hollywood does with the truth in the spirit of "artistic licence".