Post AcyX64AlQL0m2GTcu0 by IceCubeSoup@noagendasocial.com
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(DIR) Post #AcxCa5w190T5zc63uK by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-12-19T02:51:33.537Z
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I'm curious what the fedi thinks of this take
(DIR) Post #AcxCrhuLDNyUgdi8u0 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
2023-12-19T02:54:43.635534Z
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@gabriel He is 100% correctI’m not going to spoil #MrRobot for you but suffice it to say that in that show some characters learned this lesson the hard way
(DIR) Post #AcxOQMjh1PlgefSXeS by dsfgs@mastodon.sdf.org
2023-12-19T04:59:00Z
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@gabriel Sounds about right, but we have two important letters that we would like to share with him.The first letter is 'C' and the second letter is 'f'.They don't need an #EMP if they control 90% of the internet alongside fellow #fascist plutocrats.#neoFeudalism #digitalEnslavement #cloudGlare
(DIR) Post #AcxOznro8qg6w39Xou by BronzeAgeHogCranker@geofront.rocks
2023-12-19T05:07:34.171998Z
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>critical infrastructure has been designed to deal with these threats since the cold warhas it though? define "deal with," who deems what "critical"
(DIR) Post #AcxRFoC8tERqUhQLbM by hazlin@shortstacksran.ch
2023-12-19T05:35:57.864396Z
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@gabriel I don't think anyone is worried about all information being destroyed. But, people can imagine a future where they can't access it.You know, like when they shut down xlib. You get to keep what ever you already have, but you shouldn't think about data hosted by other people, as being dependably available forever. Though I suspect the internet will continue to be largely available as it exists now, until the end.
(DIR) Post #AcxRNnIe6Mlq2DH1xg by hazlin@shortstacksran.ch
2023-12-19T05:37:24.767878Z
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@gabriel My best eschatology says, it will be taken down during the alien abductions near the beginning of the trib. But, will exist in a similar form for the first 3 years.
(DIR) Post #AcxRo0TTjzyyQNq7xA by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-12-19T05:42:09.424486Z
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@dsfgs @gabriel >fascist plutocrats
(DIR) Post #AcxTmNMjrPeakY2NHs by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-12-19T06:04:06.708584Z
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@gabriel couldn't be more wrongthe current trend is aggressive centralization into just a few providers99% of organizations cybersecurity plans are bureaucratic box-checking capable of stopping nothing but a random kid across the street stealing wifithe hardware is all fundamentally the same and the software is the same shit replicated and repackaged countless times across countless final products. remember log4j being in literally everything?there are MILLIONS of midwits with MBAs who show up to work every day, on a mission to gut your so called resilient cold war infrastructure in the name of maximizing this quarter's profit. NOTHING matters more to every business on the planet than the number going up this quarter, next quarter, and the quarter after that.it didn't take total compromise of all systems to shut down that gasoline pipeline, just the billing system
(DIR) Post #AcxUCSfQlwOmimDdQ0 by DemonSixOne@poa.st
2023-12-19T06:08:59.259061Z
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@skylar @gabriel Hell even the US fedgov is almost all AWS now. This is what short sighted execs combined with stackoverflow tier h1b curryniggers gets you: a giant single failure point.
(DIR) Post #AcxVMhmNXaIeRMuvaa by like50bears@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T06:22:02.306007Z
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@gabriel This is a retard that takes for granted other people are as competent as him. *His* infra is well managed, so he assumes the software he uses was well engineered, and assumes the servers distributing that software are well managed, ect. You want to bring down 90% of the internet? Become an employee at Hashicorp, and take over Terraform public provider registry, point it to your own server that takes the public package, inserts some malware, and delivers it. You'll infect most of the worldwide corporate structure within the day, most of the world within the month.
(DIR) Post #AcxlcApzNqbqAo0Ikq by sapphire@shortstacksran.ch
2023-12-19T09:24:05.694607Z
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@BowsacNoodle @dsfgs @gabriel why do all the fascist plutocrats have big noses and funny last names
(DIR) Post #Acy2fTrIon6bFvmTL6 by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
2023-12-19T12:35:12.076134Z
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@sapphire @dsfgs @gabriel Pure coincidence.
(DIR) Post #AcyAUeTdnYmYdV3pFQ by meowski@fluf.club
2023-12-19T14:02:47.773097Z
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@gabriel saying "it can't happen" is a stretch. it would take a very powerful solar flare or series of nuclear EMPs to wipe out most data but i think everything not protected in a radiation hardened, network-disconnected enclosure is at least somewhat vulnerable
(DIR) Post #AcyRY8DzLvF8zBz6Po by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-19T17:13:58.828864Z
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What compliance could who frighten devs and sysadmins into that way?
(DIR) Post #AcyRkcQUtB9887n1N2 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:16:13.061923Z
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@gabriel It depends, it's true that cloudflare and Amazon AWS server, for example, has too much market share of the whole Internet. If these services have a massive disaster happening to then, a lot of the net could be down... for days probably. Dude is right in that Amazon has multiple datacenter scattered around, and there's probably plans in case a major disaster happens, so stuff wouldn't be down for so longThe other issue is the few major Internet routing backbones located at public places, I wonder what would happen if these goes down. Probably still would be just days of downtime at worst
(DIR) Post #AcyRu7FBgB4aJc1o12 by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-12-19T17:17:56.700Z
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@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net He's not talking to devs/sysadmins, he's telling non-technical people not to panic about (fearmongering of?) cyber attacks. In this case, "do not comply" is shorthand telling people to refuse further impositions that give governments more control over their lives, even in the name of preventing cyberattacks (or other concerns).(Ignoring the irony of using that particular rallying cry on X)
(DIR) Post #AcyS7taJGFOu0QTjVI by DocScranton@roysbeer.place
2023-12-19T17:20:27.305398Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel we will dismantle the internet ourselves and sink back into the dark ages ourselves in order to feel Safe from each other
(DIR) Post #AcySJOn3a0FVyQvTrU by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:22:30.421083Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel Every time that US-EAST-1 has gone down, Almost all of the other AWS regions had disruptions because so much stuff even internally relies on US-EAST-1. Supposedly they have addressed this since last time but we won't know until it happens again.I can't remember what it was but there was a thing a few years ago that knocked out some big DNS servers and nearly everything stopped working. even if you didn't need DNS to get to your service, that service relied on DNS somehow and went down.I'm told you could make most of the Internet unusable by knocking out one or two backbones because it's not super decentralized anymore but I don't know the details, just that most of the traffic goes through the USA.
(DIR) Post #AcySZXOBNS83H9zFZ2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:25:25.520480Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel btw if you are willing to spend the money and you design your stuff right, you can automatically replicate everything in your AWS project into another region and just switch it over in a couple minutes if your primary region goes down.
(DIR) Post #AcySbstkNUXAZ2s0OW by m0n5t3r@ps.m0n5t3r.info
2023-12-19T17:25:51.102154Z
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@Moon @gabriel @coolboymew godaddy went down at some point and I didn't get an alert because either pagerduty or twilio had their nameservers on godaddy 😀
(DIR) Post #AcySgEvARI6E1dbx5s by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:26:36.792986Z
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@m0n5t3r @gabriel @coolboymew AWS availability dashboard was hosted on AWS and that failed catastrophically in the last outage so they now have moved their dashboard off AWS.
(DIR) Post #AcySlBfrwDHBP5oZN2 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:27:30.895115Z
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@Moon @gabriel I'm assuming like, let's say, an amazon datacenter gets nuked. It's goneThere would probably be a lot of websites disappearing without backups, but probably not all of themBut Amazon relying on a single datacenter is pretty badI do wonder that would be the recovery time if those backbones gets totally destroyed. It's actually really bad if we don't have more backup than that. You'd assume there's probably secret ones around?
(DIR) Post #AcySlw3tTDpHGvPPCi by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-19T17:27:41.676077Z
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What are those impositions that give governments more control with the excuse of preventing cyberattacks?
(DIR) Post #AcySp2BJArq97WM2Pw by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:28:14.073714Z
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@Moon @gabriel yeah, that's what I've been thinking. If not just doing backups in another region/serviceBut I do wonder, how many doesn't? Probably more than you'd think
(DIR) Post #AcySrIb17FaebnSXvU by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:28:38.340112Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel if a backbone goes down traffic can still be routed but all the preferred peering would be gone so it might make tons of stuff unacceptably slow/unreliable.
(DIR) Post #AcySt4JnAhAiuEFLLk by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:28:57.849516Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel most do not because it doubles your costs.
(DIR) Post #AcySwNgZcWCbqFTvou by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:29:35.080309Z
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Zeronet would be a great backup plan. Fully p2p like bittorrent https://github.com/zeronet-conservancy/zeronet-conservancy
(DIR) Post #AcySyw7IZrSdCtCVPc by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:29:56.240647Z
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@Moon @gabriel I couldn't imagine how big a facebook backup would be
(DIR) Post #AcyTHrCr3fshTnp0QS by BigSkyRider@noagendasocial.com
2023-12-19T17:33:27Z
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@gabriel too many trusted third parties, like Solarwinds for the last excellent example, but they're hardly a unique vendor. The Security tools that security teams run, wind up with unrestricted access, and total trust, worst than the monitoring tools such as Solarwinds. The security blanket provided by security teams and their out-sourced tooling will be the downfall.
(DIR) Post #AcyTI0gboQ1ssgoOYK by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:33:27.858730Z
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@coolboymew @gabriel to specifically address this guy's point, that I think he's making, is yeah there is not one single thing you could whack that would take down everything.> since the cold war we've been planning for thisthe original internet was supposed to be a brand new decentralized digital-switched network but Bell realized they wouldn't be able to charge the government if the government built a new, better network so somehow they lobbied and the arpanet was built using leased dedicated analog phone lines. no citation, read it somewhere.
(DIR) Post #AcyTNBqdjxmmwkyRFo by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-12-19T17:34:25.217Z
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@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net I'm 90% sure he's talking about some imposition of a government-mandated digital ID to access sites / internet access. Which is fairly ironic considering his verified badge on X. I do think there are things to be concerned about though.In my opinion, this issue includes reach-arounds like so-called age verification to access particular sites. It could also include measures to consolidate technological infrastructure, such as the recent FCC issue.In this particular case, I think he's more just trying to prepare people to resist any new sudden demands in the face of some potential future crisis.
(DIR) Post #AcyTPA9f0TUUH4oLq4 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:34:45.555202Z
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@Moon @gabriel I hate Bell so much
(DIR) Post #AcyTXsi3ElrIm73RPk by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-12-19T17:36:21.124Z
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@olmitch@shitposter.club 🤡 It has to be rewritten in rust to be taken seriously though.
(DIR) Post #AcyTitfrzSwMx8HqL2 by Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-19T17:38:20.794927Z
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And that would prevent cyberattacks because criminals would be easily identified?What if a vulnerability was found in the verification system?
(DIR) Post #AcyTkZMeTPMYXe5xp2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T17:38:37.192126Z
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@skylar @gabriel I was doing a cybersecurity plan a few years ago and everything is COMPLETELY hostile to actual security and oriented around, exactly as you said, checking boxes. If you do something novel or better, you can't check the specific box; automated vulnerability detection tools get confused and penalize you; auditors argue with you. It was really demoralizing.
(DIR) Post #AcyUS4HbOWpkszTVtA by gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks
2023-12-19T17:46:30.748Z
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@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net And that would prevent cyberattacks because criminals would be easily identified?Of course not, but just because a policy has a pretext it doesn't mean that it's actually aimed at resolving the problem. What if a vulnerability was found in the verification system?Oddly enough, this was already beta tested when vaccine passports were rolled out. I don't know if any exploits were found, but the concept seems relatively straight-forward: a permissioned cryptographic identity that is "attested" by an approved issuer required to access basic services.
(DIR) Post #AcyUycVtf5KQJhgQL2 by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2023-12-19T17:52:24.084953Z
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@coolboymewI prefer poblano @gabriel @Moon
(DIR) Post #AcyV8VySpTPgvolOTI by leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club
2023-12-19T17:54:11.437208Z
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@Moon I have yet to see the inside of any company willing to put in that work@gabriel @coolboymew
(DIR) Post #AcyVY7CVYicBcwXWC0 by skylar@wolfgirl.bar
2023-12-19T17:58:44.928840Z
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@Moon @gabriel >this port is open so it's insecureyeah that's the ACME interface so it can auto renew its certificate>but it's open so it's insecure, you have failed your security audit
(DIR) Post #AcyWASzcz5HIDcnoGW by nobullyplz@poa.st
2023-12-19T18:05:44.881810Z
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@skylar @gabriel @Moon "infosec" checkbox tickers to be thrown to charybdis 🌀
(DIR) Post #AcyX64AlQL0m2GTcu0 by IceCubeSoup@noagendasocial.com
2023-12-19T18:16:09Z
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@gabriel > I'm a Data Protection, cybersecurity specialist. I've been helping organizations protect data for decades.> helping ... protect data for decades.> decadesWell, let us know when you finally get it figured out, and all the data has been protected.Then maybe we'll be interested in your opinions.
(DIR) Post #AcyXb7Dq8SH0TFilSC by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T18:21:46.037479Z
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@Moon @coolboymew @gabriel Pretty sure the source was wrong. The ARPANET ... none of this is digital switched as telcos use that phrase, but packet switched at each node ... was developed to share scarce, very expensive computer resources ARPA and company were often funding the purchase of, and definitely research on. See also the Datacomputer, an early version of something like AWS S3.We're talking about the days when plenty of the computers were old enough they used individual transistors rather than first generation LSI chips, which took a while to mature and be available in large quantities. Magnetic core memory as well.As for the links, they were bidirectional 56kb/s, which I don't think is something you can squeeze out of analog phone lines (see below). See the second link below for a credible claim of what AT&T etc. was offering as the most basic digital line, by the 1960s that was in demand for a variety of computer related uses, and perhaps other stuff.See for example the SAGE air defense system, which caught computer technology at just the right/wrong time to still use vacuum tubes for its logic, and came out of the Whirlwind R&D done in part by the MIT grad student Ken Olsen for core memory.By the time consumers had modems that could do that much and only down stream it was because the circuit switched system they were running on top of was already digital and the ISP point of presence you dialed into used analog to digital and digital to analog converters, and it's really easy to make the latter precise.That is, the ISP dumped the traffic going to you into a digital sub-circuit provided by the originating telco (think like a T-1 link but likely much much bigger). It was digital all the way until it hit the ISP PoP where the digital to analog converter did a sufficiently faithful job your receiving modem with a higher quality analog to digital converter could get up to 56kb/s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datacomputerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_kbit/s_linehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Automatic_Ground_Environment
(DIR) Post #AcyY3EmVckfK1WLYyu by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T18:26:45.167415Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @coolboymew @gabriel there is heavy dispute about the original goals/design of arpanet but I am certain I read that they leased dedicated analog lines for point to point connections. the first installation was not 56kbps.
(DIR) Post #AcyY7fKgqgoTWsRjIe by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T18:27:38.813920Z
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@Moon @coolboymew @gabriel "Every time that US-EAST-1 has gone down, Almost all of the other AWS regions had disruptions because so much stuff even internally relies on US-EAST-1."I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as us-east-1, is in fact, us-east-chaos-monkey, or as I've recently taken to calling it, chaos plus AWS....Seriously, I've heard the same thing. There's a lot of stuff, including what's I assume control plane in other regions, that depends on centralized resources at us-east-chaos-monkey. Which is also chaotic because it was AWS's first installation.
(DIR) Post #AcyZh6dhPoTWJCni88 by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T18:45:11.848947Z
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@Moon @coolboymew @gabriel Well, yes, they would no doubt have used leased analog lines and whatever was the affordable synchronous modem technology when they started up, because they had to prove they could make packet switching work. Including over imperfect connections (errors requiring retransmission).Once it was proven and production quality, by the time I started using it it was the 56kbs digital lines I mentioned. Was also with a group of friends on the flag day when NCP was no longer supported and everyone switched to TCP/IP, we were seeing who we could still connect to. Got as far as Norway to the east.I'd really like to see some citations on what are non-Official explanations for the ARPANET's origin. This is living memory stuff, as in I should have made a point to see J. C. R. Licklider in the flesh, he only went emeritus in 1985, but, eh. Most of the action was at BBN etc. though.What he proposed and what followed by other major names is well documented, and it's exactly what they built and that I used. Now, once it was proven, MILNET for example was built out as a parallel system, with the DoD making damned sure "independent" links were in fact physically independent, which costs a lot of money.There's a story about one time when New England perhaps got cut off from the ARPANET because what were thought to be four independent links were in fact run over the same AT&T circuit, which likely had a close encounter with the networker's prime enemy, the backhoe.That definitely happened one time when the MIT-AI Lab and Lab for Computer Science (LCS, then both at Tech Square, and now both combined into CSAIL in a new horrific building) got their LAN link to the rest of the campus cut where it ran under a very important railroad track.
(DIR) Post #AcyZtsyfWLqDhahdlw by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T18:47:30.062007Z
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@ThatWouldBeTelling @coolboymew @gabriel one of the things I read was that people have cited a university thesis by some guy as the origin of the design but if you actually look at the first version it doesn't look anything like that guy's design. sorry this is so vague, I was reading a bunch about this about six months ago to prove someone wrong. also responsibility for building it changed hands a couple times and people had different motivations.
(DIR) Post #AcydTRw9pl7M7oB6X2 by ThatWouldBeTelling@shitposter.club
2023-12-19T19:27:36.740132Z
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@Moon @coolboymew @gabriel You'll need to be more specific.Except I may have found what you're referring to, where to place the work of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Kleinrock along with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Baran at RAND who in 1959 was the first to come up with the idea of packet switching as far as we know, and independently in the U.K. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davies in 1965, both of those guys reducing it to practice in simulation.The first guy did MATH!!! starting around 1961 (MIT thesis proposal) which was of course extremely important and per Wikipedia he credibly got roped into the ARPANET project starting in 1967. As I read/skim the Wikipedia histories and also match them against what I learned in the 1980s, which didn't include this guy, it would seem (((Kleinrock))) tried to out-Jew (((Baran,))) whereas the latter was happy to share credit with Davies.The latter's work was extremely influential per Wikipedia including in naming "packet" and "interface computer," see the ARPANET Interface Message Processor or IMP, and per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Message_Processor he also came up with the idea of this separate computer from the hosts we now call a router. He and his team were also early in using "protocol" in this context.But note these guys were doing the lowest level stuff; I wouldn't say they were fathers of the ARPANET or Internet, those were developed by applying their work to specific real world problems, with the concepts starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._C._R._Licklider while he was at ARPA which would also have given him the contacts to get the ARPANET funded.For the Internet, the new problem was the development of LANs and the need to transparently route packets to computers just on them.Connecting both, the size of the rather modest Honeywell IMPs (and Terminal Interface Processors, TIPs which you could dial into with a modem), was a large part of why IPv4 only has 32 bits worth of addressable hosts. (((Vint Cerf))) and company knew at the time it was going to be too small, but....
(DIR) Post #AcykYRnOUCZCoVPQg4 by threalist@social.fbxl.net
2023-12-19T20:46:56.213174Z
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Look bud, they've dealt with it, ok? Trust the experts.."Report: U.S. Nuclear System Relies On Outdated Technology Such As Floppy Disks" - NPR MAY 26, 2016> still runs on a 1970s-era computing system that uses 8-inch floppy disks, according to a newly released report from the Government Accountability Office. That's right. It relies on memory storage that hasn't been commonly used since the 1980s
(DIR) Post #AcymSo5WtFBW7iKWiO by Grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com
2023-12-19T21:08:20.824813Z
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@threalist @BronzeAgeHogCranker @gabriel dude, they still have punch cards, and I know this because one of my first jobs was working in a microfilm factory, and we had a duplication machine for the punch cards. Once they started showing a bit of wear, they'd send the master box of punch cards over to us, to make another copy. When everybody else was using flash drives, they were finally using microfilm and floppy disks.Our only real clients outside of the government were sending us old microfilm to be printed out on paper so they could scan it into the computer before the microfilm rotted away. Some interesting stuff on those microfilms for sure, but the only ones ordering new microfilm was various government agencies.The microfilm factory is still around, much smaller now, but they still have business :/
(DIR) Post #AcywT3PguVbHCAW7X6 by dew_the_dew@nicecrew.digital
2023-12-19T23:00:25.946505Z
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i mean how much of this network capacity is used up by streaming video crap?