Post AcyBbjGcUIFZTOuP56 by cnx@larkspur.one
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 (DIR) Post #AcwAKPtelSdGChQehM by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-18T14:51:32Z
       
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       I sent an announcement of the #WOWS2024 three (3!) times to @SIGIRlist, but it does not appear... What am I doing wrong?
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy8Vx8hhL5WthlBzs by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T13:40:38Z
       
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       I now know what went wrong!  Our mail server adds a horrible "safelinks.protection.outlook.com" part to the URL, and so the @SIGIRlist moderators rejected the mail. And rightly so! Our server adds this because.... I don't know whyyyyyyyyy 😭  (they're afraid WE are sending phishing emails?)
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy92Vhui8JTNHko2y by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T13:46:32Z
       
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       I think I am going to start a group: "Radboud against Outlook365". Who wants to join?
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy9R3KTMBuMbKUZoe by proycon@social.anaproy.nl
       2023-12-19T13:50:55Z
       
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       @djoerd I'll gladly join! I already wrote about all this mess a while back: https://proycon.anaproy.nl/posts/rant-against-centralising-e-mail/ .. I simply stopped using the official mail and had to set an autoreply for people to mail at my own mailserver.
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy9c87Rt8h4dsgNOa by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T13:52:58Z
       
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       @proycon Great, thanks. Maybe we really should start such a group!  (I posted this for some part out of anger).
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy9nLZ8EcnJWzynXE by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T13:54:59Z
       
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       My #WOWS2024 workshop announcement arrived at thousands of people with the following link:https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopensearchfoundation.org%2Fwows2024%2F&data=05%7C02%7Chiemstra%40CS.RU.NL%7C58a3b99765114294c91208dc00071b08%7C084578d9400d4a5aa7c7e76ca47af400%7C1%7C0%7C638385277715219728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IR6HVMn3nhbVw4WDXnoe4AKGYXF6e%2FR%2F7B%2F%2FaBVkSao%3D&reserved=0Don't click this, please.
       
 (DIR) Post #Acy9qgA874n6HOsFns by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T13:55:36Z
       
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       My #WOWS2024 workshop announcement arrived at thousands of people with the following link:https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fopensearchfoundation.org%2Fwows2024%2F&data=05%7C02%7Chiemstra%40CS.RU.NL%7C58a3b99765114294c91208dc00071b08%7C084578d9400d4a5aa7c7e76ca47af400%7C1%7C0%7C638385277715219728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IR6HVMn3nhbVw4WDXnoe4AKGYXF6e%2FR%2F7B%2F%2FaBVkSao%3D&reserved=0Don't click this, please.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyAHt32JSVE3vWuSe by rysiek@mstdn.social
       2023-12-19T14:00:27Z
       
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       @djoerd reminds me of this time when I spent two days trying to figure out why some of people using a service I was responsible were getting the password reset links I was sending them, but they were all expired.All of these people were using Outlook. MS decided that clicking these links to "check for phishing" is the right thing to do, and since they were one-time links...Ffs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyATn6mDq097ExJke by proycon@social.anaproy.nl
       2023-12-19T14:02:38Z
       
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       @djoerd Maybe some kind of open letter to those in power? That would at least send a signal that there are people who have serious concerns with this shift to outsource vital infrastructure to big-tech parties and undermine the pillars of a decentralised internet doing so..
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyAY4b58ohWVyAlHM by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T14:03:27Z
       
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       @rysiek Ouch! I only found out by directly contacting the moderators of the email list asking them to please accept my post...
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyAeStBjkTrangoTo by pbloem@sigmoid.social
       2023-12-19T14:04:35Z
       
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       @djoerd I think you could easily make this a national movement. We have exactly the same nonsense at the VU.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyAhqGpGKZYydM8q8 by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T14:05:12Z
       
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       @proycon Sounds like a plan!
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyAokV96sKz6zLca8 by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T14:06:26Z
       
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       @pbloem Yes! Weird, isn't it,  how all Dutch universities follow each other in things like IT infrastructure?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyB2dpSiLBCTKTVHk by proycon@social.anaproy.nl
       2023-12-19T14:08:57Z
       
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       @djoerd We have the same problem at the KNAW, I wouldn't be surprised if more universities and research institutes fell prey to Microsoft. It might perhaps make a stronger case to address it jointly over multiple institutes?
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyBD4lFR7FEtcTm2i by djoerd@idf.social
       2023-12-19T14:10:51Z
       
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       @proycon Same at the VU apparently (@pbloem), and Twente also had switched to Outlook already in 2019 when I left...
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyBbjGcUIFZTOuP56 by cnx@larkspur.one
       2023-12-19T14:15:21.424269Z
       
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       @proycon and @djoerd, my institute is halfway across the globe, but count me in for an open letter or joint request of an kind.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyC8O0gXdiv6O1lsu by pbloem@sigmoid.social
       2023-12-19T14:21:12Z
       
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       @djoerd It's a total monoculture. With all the issues that implies.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcyCO4NJJPMoq25Z68 by proycon@social.anaproy.nl
       2023-12-19T14:20:14Z
       
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       @cnx @djoerd Thanks, but a global scale might be overstretching things I fear, we'd need enormous international momentum to make a dent I suppose (would be great but maybe not so feasible). I'd already be happy if we manage to influence some decision makers in academia here in the Netherlands.