Post Acn8Sd7SQPSLi3iVKS by Gargron@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #AcmzopXO2HSF0WM8eW by Gargron@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T04:14:11Z
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#Threads is testing federation for a few selected profiles. I'm now following @mosseri! It's one-way for now, but it's exciting. It's a step towards the interoperable social web that we've been advocating for 🙂
(DIR) Post #AcmzrFaQ9p0cNMvgCu by mike@flipboard.social
2023-12-14T04:29:41Z
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@Gargron @mosseri Welcome Adam! Great to have you here!
(DIR) Post #AcmzrGT0sqg56gTHIe by wjmaggos@liberal.city
2023-12-14T04:41:50Z
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@mike @Gargron @mosseri I heard they can't see us yet.
(DIR) Post #Acn0hUMaSjV5GQMrpY by ionisland@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T04:32:01Z
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@Gargron we can have an interoperable social web without the likes of zuckerberg and his ethically questionable and privacy invasive platforms. He does not deserve the benefit of the doubt because he's already proved that he doesn't deserve it time and time again
(DIR) Post #Acn2FGboCvvqPB9rxQ by mike@flipboard.social
2023-12-14T05:08:28Z
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@wjmaggos @Gargron @mosseri Are these threads voices in the room with us now? :-)
(DIR) Post #Acn4L5jZkhigK7hE2q by Gargron@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T05:19:12Z
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If you’ve got questions about what interoperability with #Threads means, we wrote this up back in July, and you can still refer to it:https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/07/what-to-know-about-threads/
(DIR) Post #Acn7oSPOpMhQuLx9xQ by jeremiah@noagendasocial.com
2023-12-14T06:11:00Z
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@alex @Gargron @mosseri about five minutes after it becomes two way, it will return to being one way. Guaranteed.
(DIR) Post #Acn7tWqXkszA7T4GrQ by rdr@5dollah.click
2023-12-14T06:11:55.662335Z
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@Gargron your gay
(DIR) Post #Acn8Sd7SQPSLi3iVKS by Gargron@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T06:00:57Z
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Make no mistake, this is huge for Mastodon. Currently people have to choose between X, Mastodon, and Threads, and network effects play a dominant role in that choice. If we can say, you can access all the folks that went to Threads from a Mastodon account, that makes it a far more attractive option given all of its other perks 😉
(DIR) Post #AcnFtOOBzxr1WUFk0W by MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-14T07:41:25.220507Z
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@Gargron you're so fucking gay Gargron, why don't you go to California to keep sucking off of Zuck's cock?
(DIR) Post #AcnGRYKXXnPYCUpjMm by andreagrandi@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T07:08:11Z
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@Gargron this is a valid reason not to have a Threads account and just keep using Mastodon 🙂
(DIR) Post #AcnMPyDsu85BeQLhTM by DesRoin@geekdom.social
2023-12-14T08:54:32Z
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@wjmaggos @mike @Gargron @mosseri Except for a few select accounts we can't see them either just yet. This is literally on their platform now though so... soon?
(DIR) Post #AcndSZNrPVMchfqAS0 by VE2UWY@mastodon.radio
2023-12-14T04:18:23Z
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@Gargron Embrace, extend, extinguish. Let's hope that flows in the correct direction.#TrustNoBillionaire
(DIR) Post #AcndSaDGKOTrH5tDZQ by not2b@sfba.social
2023-12-14T04:22:56Z
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@VE2UWY @Gargron I think the movement might well go in the other direction. Threads/Instagram users might realize that they can escape the ads and the algorithm without giving up connections to their friends. If threads.net becomes yet another fediverse server why not choose a better one?
(DIR) Post #AcndSb7cwpZE5uGEQS by tyx@lor.sh
2023-12-14T12:05:35Z
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@not2b @VE2UWY @Gargron Because they will make it as painful as possible. Why should commercial social network facilitate losing it's herd?
(DIR) Post #Acng9jgfB8Vn1ELWds by lancehomer@mastodon.online
2023-12-14T04:33:08Z
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@Gargron @mosseri What do you know about plans to make it bidirectional?
(DIR) Post #Acng9kb1nZb9q2iXUu by oliver@die-partei.social
2023-12-14T05:58:38Z
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@lancehomer #Threadshttps://www.threads.net/@mosseri/post/C0zjrJMvUXp
(DIR) Post #Acng9lc80y4YzkEvqq by tyx@lor.sh
2023-12-14T12:35:47Z
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@oliver @lancehomer Maybe, some day, be sure. LOL.
(DIR) Post #AcnpVfS0VdDLq21Wk4 by Arataka@esper.lol
2023-12-14T06:05:22Z
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@Gargron except for the trigger happy admins already blocking threads for whatever reason lol
(DIR) Post #AcnpVg6m43p9sT65Hk by akaasjager@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T08:46:51Z
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@Arataka @Gargron there are many who suspect Meta from doing to Mastodon what eg Google did to XMPP and will do what they can to prevent it: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
(DIR) Post #AcnrwdMeZeTp5vVPtI by juuhaa@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T12:45:24Z
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@Gargron @mosseri Is it enough to block #Threads from your account to do this:1. Open that profile.2. Block domain.
(DIR) Post #AcnrweQEdowINKBn72 by realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com
2023-12-14T14:09:21Z
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@juuhaa @Gargron @mosseri Yes.
(DIR) Post #AcnuiPL8DhJ3PGha6q by oliver@die-partei.social
2023-12-14T15:18:56Z
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@tyx @lancehomer Maybe?
(DIR) Post #AcpfJynNGPREch2hEG by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-12-15T11:34:46.923503Z
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@chjara this is the worst timeline
(DIR) Post #Acpft1JjsXtKa2tDE0 by Arataka@esper.lol
2023-12-14T06:13:20Z
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@emma I’m federating with threads, yes. If you don’t like him then block him but don’t try to force others to comply on and open protocol and if you don’t like this opinion then block me!
(DIR) Post #Acpft2D2Yw7xLYlNQG by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-12-14T13:43:29Z
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@Arataka @emma Nobody is forcing you, you're just being called out for your actions. If there's a known burglar in town and you're inviting them to stay at your house don't expect others not to laugh once your house is empty.In this case it's Meta, a platform known to be untrustworthy in literally everything they do. So yeah, people who now protect themselves and other users against them will call you out, and they might smirk or even laugh once shit inevitably hits the fan.
(DIR) Post #Acpft38T7Q44DfdEw4 by raccoon@den.raccoon.quest
2023-12-15T11:42:11.592Z
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@Natanox@chaos.social @Arataka@esper.lol @emma@orbital.horse we blocked their ass preemptively before months ago, it stuns me that people wanna federate with it
(DIR) Post #AcpfzRsa2EFIhMFemu by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-12-15T11:42:46.708446Z
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if we were all well-informed, altruistic, autistic bottoms, Threads would probably not even exist because its potential userbase would be 0I mean, do we really have to argue about the ethics and risks of signing up to a server led by the folks unambiguously accused by UN officials of genocide???????????but……… clearly people are still going to join in…
(DIR) Post #AcpgC1w5nqWA07tTYO by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-12-15T11:45:33.781667Z
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If I recall correctly they’re not even going to bother to federate with most instances, so that MIGHT end up leading to a situation where the collaborating community instances are the best ones for finding and reaching accounts.The math also really REALLY depends on which scale Threads reaches, and how resistant to change its users are. That is, whenever they can lock back that network effect.
(DIR) Post #AcphER8ZB04Ah7RJrc by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-12-15T11:57:15.129251Z
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I can see Meta™®© trying to bring in economic incentives (aka money) and pressuring the big fedi instances into accepting favorable rules and terms. But again, their effectiveness depends on the context of the kind of userbases around fedi, as well as how well can admins understand what’s going on and coordinate.
(DIR) Post #AcphXT6E6ZKWHZQ72e by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2023-12-15T12:00:39.525492Z
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I wonder if that could end up in the same network splitting cleanly between the kinds of social network people want. Say, one full of masses seeking cheap entertainment, another smaller one centered around deeper socialization. That could be a more genuine representation of society, even.I definitely think one could never fully eat up the other. It might even be the best approach for the interests of users. But I wonder where would that leave society at.
(DIR) Post #AcpjMwIXPAFfYyHmQy by Natanox@chaos.social
2023-12-15T12:19:08Z
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@raccoon @Arataka @emma Mostly a lack of knowledge I assume. :/Although there are quite some people who know Meta is literally acting like a psychopath and still work with them, like Eugen and Daniel… hard to wrap one's head around that.
(DIR) Post #AcpyUPEzh25QfQe9uC by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-12-14T22:53:54Z
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@Gargron This is really disappointing, Eugen.Meta's track record on human rights is so terrible, Amnesty International issued a report about their involvement in genocide:https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/ASA16/5933/2022/en/This is the kind of company you're excited about working with?There is zero chance Meta is genuinely interested in interoperability, they just want to take over control of whatever community the Fediverse has built up. As Meta's CEO said, people who trust him are "stupid f**ks".
(DIR) Post #Acq04WOCgyrjDWjuIC by Ulrich_the_Elder@mastodon.social
2023-12-14T22:30:34Z
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@Gargron I know who owns threads and this is all I need to know. I do not want to engage with them in any fashion. If I cannot block their interaction with mastodon I guess I will be leaving mastodon as well. If I wanted to interact with threads, facebook, meta, truth social, or any other fascist social media site I would join those sites. I am here because I do not want to be there.
(DIR) Post #Acq04Xvux7Qa0NWLTs by untsuki@udongein.xyz
2023-12-15T15:27:58.365537Z
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@Ulrich_the_Elder I should remind you that you are not forced to leave mastodon because of decisions made by @Gargron , because you can leave mastodon.social by migrating to another instance that blocks interaction with Meta.It would be very inconvenient since migration progress makes you lose posts and possibly some of followers from old account, but it's an option that would make it possible to still be able to interact with fediverse (mastodon) users.
(DIR) Post #Acq06s8IoytfEUQGmG by mjf_pro@hachyderm.io
2023-12-14T23:31:20Z
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@feditips @Gargron Threads is going to lay in ActivityPub support whether we like it or not, because the EU won’t let them stay in business there if they don’t. That ship has sailed; nothing we do here can change that. What instance admins *can* do here is block Threads. If they do, they’d also block Threads users from…easily moving to their friendly neighborhood Mastodon host. Who would that help, and more importantly, who would that hurt?
(DIR) Post #Acq06sylfurdrCyAYS by feditips@mstdn.social
2023-12-15T00:41:03Z
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@mjf_pro @Gargron "they’d also block Threads users from…easily moving to their friendly neighborhood Mastodon host. "No.There is no account migration system on Threads.You cannot move your account from Threads to Mastodon.
(DIR) Post #AcuRYvDUQNeQIdHw3s by daniel_cl@seda.social
2023-12-15T16:08:09Z
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@Gargron Remember what happened between google and XMPP https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
(DIR) Post #AcuRhqDyM3cVQGld5c by aemstuz@pol.social
2023-12-17T18:56:52Z
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@daniel_cl @Gargron Thanks. Until now, I had no strong opinion about Meta entering the Fediverse. But after reading the XMPP story, I think Meta can't be trusted.