Post AceK4ZiuqiPFFrtWlc by coolboymew@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AceCak5x1ZKd3TUr3o by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-09T22:52:04.258059Z
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does anyone have any cases of shitposting instances existing throughout gnu social preferably from before 2016. i am doing a write up rn and i need some of these instances to disprove a point
(DIR) Post #AceD9UwDMz0UBKW0Zc by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T22:58:21.402114Z
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@kirby shitposter.club and it's sister sites like the sealion one started in at least 2016, which is before Mastodon. Indieweb mentions this as well:https://indieweb.org/GNU_social#ExamplesThis was set up a few months before the infamous 2016 Leslie Jones Twitter Meltdown, which made the frontpage of Time Magazine, led to Milo being banned, and would be described as Jim later as the "shitposter holocaust" as that's when the infamous shadowbans/throttles began to be rolled out en masse.https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Fembusters/Leslie_Jones%27_Twitter_MeltdownYou can ask @Moon about the early history of GS.
(DIR) Post #AceDXN4uFBLikrxqb2 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:02:43.448787Z
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@PurpCat @kirby SPC started Feb 7 2016. sealion.club and freezepeach.xyz existed for months before us, not sure how long.I did not come from Twitter but I set up my server roughly coinciding with being annoyed that some places like Twitter were banning people. Not because of any specific reason but just that, I wanted a "social media" I could enjoy and not be subject to someone else's whims on what I could post. I believe that sealion.club and freezepeach.xyz were set up specifically in response to Twitter bannings but I was not involved with that.
(DIR) Post #AceDcl58QTzOeIdkK8 by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:03:44.381Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @kirby@lab.nyanide.com @Moon@shitposter.club we need a fediverse historian kinda like internet historian but not from new zeland
(DIR) Post #AceDtQW88cNDnADOJk by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:06:37.608226Z
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@jeff @Moon @kirby I think the problem is that like history of something like SomethingAwful or imageboards, due to a lack of or broken archives, people changing over time and/or leaving the fedi, and instances going down for some reason or another, it's a very much oral history.There's also the fact that the fediverse is split into several groups, so someone who will know about the legend of Bot and 🔧, NAFO, Wyatt's hellthread, or all the lore of graf won't know about something like snouts.online folding (and scaring furries away from Mastodon for a while), or all the sex pests in the Mastodon side, etc.
(DIR) Post #AceDvkMtIsXrwD02uO by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:07:09.186Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @Moon@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com that's why we NEED one D:
(DIR) Post #AceE3Phu0MaaAvU26a by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:08:33.209675Z
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Taking a moment to fully take credit for convincing @coolboymew to join Gnu Social in the old days
(DIR) Post #AceE4lL73sGrYZT1FI by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:08:45.299999Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby I was on Freezepeach for a while, but I wasn't there at the beginning. I don't know why they were made. I remember moving to one myself when Twitter (and other sites) started putting off-site activity thing in their ToS. Sealion was made to be specifically a Gamergate related instancePretty sure the "troll instance" thing is bullshit. Gnu Social being Gnu Social, most people probably didn't last long there and I was quickly one of like 3-4 remaining active users on freezepeach
(DIR) Post #AceE7JNNU9xnhLk3iC by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:09:15.469865Z
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well speak of the devil hahaha
(DIR) Post #AceEAWcUhZIVdrLROy by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:09:50.510Z
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@coolboymew@shitposter.club @Moon@shitposter.club @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @kirby@lab.nyanide.com SLC was buggy af
(DIR) Post #AceECuyb7EuvlGpBOy by Rocc@misskey.bubbletea.dev
2023-12-09T23:09:54.179Z
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@Moon@shitposter.club @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @kirby@lab.nyanide.com gnu axis
(DIR) Post #AceED6qsxjsWapJC2y by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:10:18.283593Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon There is a recorded history of 4chan from spring 2012 to winter 2015. The only problem is that the death sea scroll length of it makes reading through it a little difficult. It also reveals to you that Internet history is big source of bullshit. Mostly about itself.
(DIR) Post #AceEFWQUqftgUQ7Ejw by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:10:36.407723Z
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@jeff @Moon @kirby The problem is, with fedi history the boomer theory of "two people in the same theater watching different movies" applies.The Mastodon Network (tm) side will say defederating gets the bad people offline and cite Gab. Ask someone on this side of the fedi who was there and they'll just post the YOUR WHOLE FUCKING MENTALITY HAS EXPIRED video or the screencap of Gab users crying about anime spam. There's also the baggage that the Mastodon Network branding carries, but that's another story.
(DIR) Post #AceEG3bzSxhPPckNjk by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:10:50.457Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @Moon@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com i remember RDN
(DIR) Post #AceEGdlT3CfdXRSSVU by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:10:56.664327Z
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yeah I think back then when I first told you about it I was on quitter.se or some such Twitter clone. The importance of federation was obvious to me from day one. It's like email, I tell people, but Google kind of owns email now so *sigh*
(DIR) Post #AceEHYlR7zVwJqsjs8 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:11:03.616953Z
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@jeff @Moon @PurpCat @kirby all GS instances were. As the fedi grew and better software came, GS instances all started to implode
(DIR) Post #AceEHoQkseTguLKRrE by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:11:09.516Z
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@Rocc@misskey.bubbletea.dev @Moon@shitposter.club @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @kirby@lab.nyanide.com GNU is stored in the balls
(DIR) Post #AceEJQ10cvIllS3Ibw by ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:11:26.747516Z
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@coolboymew @Moon @PurpCat @kirby SPC was my first and only instance and it was a great choice
(DIR) Post #AceEMRquFkvWKYlsxs by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:11:59.764Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @Moon@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com just gotta not have an expired mentality
(DIR) Post #AceEOCA7YkT6FQakuO by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:12:18.403325Z
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@coolboymew @jeff @Moon @PurpCat @kirby GS slowly killed itself with all the ebin videos and images people posted. The Database simply couldn't load all that shit in time.
(DIR) Post #AceER6oPuJecWWpThw by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:12:48.631888Z
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@PurpCat @kirby those two servers definitely courted people banned from Twitter. I attempted to try pump.io (the thing Evan P one of the authors of ActivityPub made that almost killed the network) before my GNU Social server. I was and am very interested in freedom and decentralization which was my primary motivation. SPC started as a strong free speech instance that basically banned violent threats, doxing and loli, sealion didn't. SPC has since created more rules on perceived and real harassment. we absorbed a lot of users early on from another shitposting server named gnutan.xyz that went defunct after a database crash. I'll try to add more facts as I remember them.
(DIR) Post #AceETKdtSREXzqy1Sq by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:13:07.097720Z
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@coolboymew @kirby @jeff @Moon I tried to host a GS instance with the SPARC a while back on OpenBSD and I saw just how fragile the code was firsthand.Also; it is still very much broken and won't work on PHP 8 because some shit it relied on broke, hasn't been rewritten yet, the only guy who still cares is some guy in Japan obsessed with it, and that's on top of lagging behind what the last few years of Pleroma/Mastodon/Misskey have introduced.
(DIR) Post #AceEUaTI5j6BNYbelc by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:13:27.746152Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby Hello, I used to moderate for sealion club and freezepeach. Now I moderate for SPC, although I would still moderate for all of them if I could. If you have any questions about that then I will try to answer from what I remember.I have a vague recollection that SLC was something else, and then it became a GNU Social instance. I wish that I remembered the timelines now. Did @rw keep anything on this? There was a good article about the early days and research went into that.
(DIR) Post #AceEWAPRxaFx81YyO0 by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:13:45.075244Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby I quit Facebook in January 2015, and I don't remember the exact timing but I was either already on SLC at that time or joined shortly thereafter, either way around the time it was set up.
(DIR) Post #AceEZhKk0PcE6q2nx2 by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:14:21.708211Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon wasn't it pretty much a completely abandoned project that didn't have enough comments so it would have been an ordeal to actually fix it?
(DIR) Post #AceEbjy7BBygrRR1oe by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:14:43.486092Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @jeff @coolboymew we got off it after I spent over a year re-inventing all the scaling enhancements that had been lost to bit-rot and it just could not keep up with the load from both my browing user base and the massively growing network because of Mastodon flooding my work queues.
(DIR) Post #AceEeTVGqxusfDFOSW by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:15:08.668658Z
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@coolboymew @kirby @jeff @Moon Also it's low quality PHP code, which is a shame because if you're stuck with a cpanel shithost in a world where only php exists you don't have a lot of options in that regard.
(DIR) Post #AceEfgZnjX6VUywZQu by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:15:28.305Z
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @coolboymew@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com @Moon@shitposter.club php is stored in the balls tho
(DIR) Post #AceEnyDa1gjsWuV59s by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:16:58.029456Z
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@sim @Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw I only remember SLC ever being GNU Social
(DIR) Post #AceEqQqqXUSpui2aSu by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:17:23.215596Z
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@sim @PurpCat @kirby @rw rw did a bunch of research for an article that fell through for some reason.as mentioned the network before us was FOSS people and university communists and Spanish anarchists, all actually pretty chill people compared to the wave of insufferable assholes that came because of mastodon. some people like the guy who made the gnu social Qvitter plugin, DID NOT like us at all, but they weren't dicks about it.
(DIR) Post #AceEsAon7YzYlbuTFw by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:17:37.463794Z
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@jeff @Moon @coolboymew @kirby A lot of fedi instance software stacks require running them as root, and a lot of shitty/cheap cpanel hosts out there do not let you do this.Which isn't a problem for wordpress or drupal or phpbb or xenforo or nextcloud but is for hosting Pleroma.
(DIR) Post #AceEwC8a9rm4165IAq by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:18:26.079597Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @jeff @coolboymew a lot of it was PHP3 and 4 code and it ran like shit, I had constant mysterious intermittent performance problems I could never solve despite making it massively faster.
(DIR) Post #AceEwh576oQ3zJhSZU by why@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:18:32.219554Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @Moon whatever literallywho eceleb drama you just brought up was NOT what brought the initial wave of shitposters to the fediverse. It started on February 5th of 2016 when Twitter rolled out the nonlinear feed, which STILL makes the site unusable yet nobody complains about anymore. Additionally, a lot of us went to previously set up instances like quitter .se and not directly to "shitposting instances".
(DIR) Post #AceEx9YVF8Z6IZfKGe by augustus@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:18:37.265905Z
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@Moon @sim @PurpCat @kirby @rw based Bob Mottram
(DIR) Post #AceF0CMJHE71rUPl0C by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:19:09.035358Z
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@sim @Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw The blog is still around. Here's the section of interest.https://robekworld.com/tagged/internetHere are the specific articles.https://robekworld.com/an-admin-what-if-there-was-twitter-without-nazis-ec3cc8cc7aa6?source=---------5-----------------------https://robekworld.com/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone-1b12a98c37ec?source=---------4-----------------------
(DIR) Post #AceF9GgcYYI1tEEuga by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2023-12-09T23:20:44.824413Z
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I miss Sealion.club. I don't even remember what my name was on there, but I could still login to it via my open ID provider back in 2018:https://battlepenguin.com/tech/the-decline-of-openid/I don't even remember anything from it or what we posted about, I just liked the name. I think my avatar was a white baby seal.
(DIR) Post #AceFAftkIzTyN837iq by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:20:54.939117Z
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@why @kirby @Moon I mentioned this, it was a few months before it.This event was what caused a lot of Twitter drama in the aftermath because that's when the infamous Shadowbans rolled out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU6VS1lDx0E
(DIR) Post #AceFKPI2uODDl73Xoe by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:22:49.390124Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby I can confirm that with both SLC and Freezepeach that the only things that I looked out for were things that would cause the server trouble, anything illegal in the US and child porn. We trusted that people were capable of blocking/muting and sorting arguments out themselves. I think this usually courted people that were. We did attract a lot of people from twitter during the exodus too and it was advertised on twitter. I think a few people couldn't believe that they were really able to have free speech there so they would be more edgy than they needed to be and I just left them to it.
(DIR) Post #AceFNMWvctqu4GQVv6 by maxmustermann@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:23:21.286142Z
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@sim @PurpCat @kirby @rw Another piece of trivia many people don't like: Many early instances huddled around Sealion (i.e. nowadays us) came from 8chan. This is where I have learned about GNU social which led me straight to here. I am mostly hanging out here, because @Moon doesn't do run this place like a dysfunctional ape man. This is something most Image Board adminstrators do.
(DIR) Post #AceFRYKrfygpq8mYDI by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:24:02.685269Z
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@PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby and just to be real real clear, the flagship instance had thousands of users so it could be scaled with difficulty. a lot of the scaling stuff was unused in the codebase until it didn't work anymore or the knowledge was lost over time, so the work I did to make gnu social run better was mostly fixing existing code to work again and re-discovering how to scale it without any help from people who had done it before.another fun fact is that I made a plugin for gnu social for sensitive content images because I guess up to that point nobody posted much porn on the network before sealion.club, when mastodon showed up they deliberately implemented it in a incomatible way which along with a few other programming situations cemented what it was like interacting with that developer.
(DIR) Post #AceFTTbIFfXTjYNqqG by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:24:27.985085Z
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@coldacid @Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw Yeah, it was going to become pleroma eventually to make it easier for moon but then it had datacentre problems and there wasn't a backup. We're fortunate that moon kept a backup of SPC and only missed a few months of data from that.
(DIR) Post #AceFTxayjP72lGT1W4 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:24:32.099074Z
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@maxmustermann @PurpCat @kirby @rw @sim early on other people (not me) were advertising SPC on 8chan and 4chan as a matter of fact.
(DIR) Post #AceFaSzMvN4trbygz2 by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:25:38.317651Z
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@Moon @kirby @rw @sim So here's where the Spanish anarchist thing came from, as spoken by the FSF:https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/thousands-of-spaniards-leave-twitter-for-gnu-socialA Spanish anti-government activist was banned from Twitter and ended up moving to Quitter for a while.While trying to search for this article, I found a research paper/essay mentioning GS and Quitter, comparing it with something I've never heard of and Twister, which also tried to be like nostr was (decentralized completely with a blockchain):https://twentysix.fibreculturejournal.org/fcj-190-building-a-better-twitter-a-study-of-the-twitter-alternatives-gnu-social-quitter-rstat-us-and-twister/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291186801_FCJ-190_Building_a_Better_Twitter_A_Study_of_the_Twitter_Alternatives_GNU_social_Quitter_rstatus_and_Twister
(DIR) Post #AceFae8dTG1iRXOkSG by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:25:45.938331Z
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@sim @Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw but I mean, it was new when I joined, and it was GS at the time. I don't think it was ever anything before that
(DIR) Post #AceFenH1RqRLvyIZhw by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:26:28.279010Z
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@sim @coldacid @PurpCat @kirby @rw SPC was on completely different server or it would have been lost too. Yes, I am responsible for the ultimate demise of sealion.club and freezepeach.xyz from not having OFF SITE backups, a fact that I still deeply regret.After Hope was doxed, they left the community and robek and I negotiated to acquire the two sites. There are serious differences in moderation style between us and I was not totally comfortable taking that on but we absolutely did not want a huge chunk of the Fediverse to go offline.
(DIR) Post #AceFjBGOCFYFUm5uU4 by Ace6V8h03hxzselrPM.jeff@mk.magicka.org
2023-12-09T23:27:18.552Z
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@Moon@shitposter.club @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @coolboymew@shitposter.club @kirby@lab.nyanide.com sound horrible
(DIR) Post #AceFmYOmdVRy7Kd45I by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:27:54.565721Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw Yeah, that was the impression that I had about it. They just suggested to make another instance if I recall. I don't remember much instance blocking drama... and what was there was basically because we had imperfect tools and related to loli and the law when the instance was based in a different country to the US.
(DIR) Post #AceFndBeJrkpG001Pk by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:28:04.991629Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @rw @sim there were in fact at least three influxes into the Fediverse from Spain, but basically almost none of the people that came over "stuck around". The primary reason is that (our beloved) gnu social really sucked. which is why mastodon took off, it didn't look or run like shit.
(DIR) Post #AceFuKoJ2cGII4HFmi by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:29:19.073442Z
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@maxmustermann @Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw Thanks for sharing them! Best I've found on those earlyish days.
(DIR) Post #AceFzgWNkRC14cRcwK by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:30:17.445644Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby yeah and I bet it hasn't gotten any better with Gargleballs since
(DIR) Post #AceG7TLmbKhkXcCTya by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:31:39.485211Z
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@coldacid @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby In the grand scheme of things I am pretty irrelevant and he is consequential so he has forgotten about me. a couple years ago a mutual acquaintance mentioned us to him and he pretended he didn't know who we were despite us being in close contact for quite a while and interacting on technical issues.
(DIR) Post #AceG9wo63LGMTjckqm by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:32:00.145279Z
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@Moon @kirby @rw @sim Oh yeah, GNU Social is literally the epitome of what people criticized with FOSS software (even to this day with certain projects coming to mind): it's almost hostile towards the user, being designed purely around an idea of function as opposed to "would you want your mom to use this?" That's not getting into the performance issues which have killed many alt sites (see: Zippcast). This is opposed to Apple and the golden days of big tech companies which were focused on user experience to get people hooked.
(DIR) Post #AceGESh1RZyWWsT3hI by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:32:54.039869Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby you're relevant and consequential to us, Moon, and that's all that matters
(DIR) Post #AceGFz6oPKSRM5Fywi by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:33:12.604603Z
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@Moon @coldacid @PurpCat @jeff @kirby lmao, what a little bitch
(DIR) Post #AceGKaXbB6E6bgytlY by arcanicanis@were.social
2023-12-09T23:34:02.489311Z
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I’d point more to it relying on MDB2 for all the database interactions, whereas MDB2 doesn’t work in recent versions of PHP which broke some things of reverse-compatibility (supposedly in the sake of better performance?), and that library hasn’t been updated for beyond a decade: https://pear.php.net/package/MDB2It’s that it may entail reworking anything DB-related to move off of MDB2, which could be the whole project, or else fixing MDB2 to run in ‘modern’ PHP. I assume everyone would rather just write something entirely new, but pretty much any of the efforts miss the point, such as not doing: easy moddability via plugins, being able to run on constrained hosting environments, being able to just extract an archive and use a web installer versus expecting everyone to be a Linux neckbeard to use build tools, etc.
(DIR) Post #AceGONY5QNFXTG16eW by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2023-12-09T23:34:38.357835Z
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Mastodon entirely removed OStatus support (and Pleroma did too, maybe a year later?). There were some forks of GNU Social that supported Activity Pub ... I think some are still online, but I don't think any are very big.
(DIR) Post #AceGPXEOuWHfn3MOxs by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:34:55.898496Z
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@arcanicanis @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @coolboymew At least twice attemptes were made to conver the database to postgresql too but were abandoned because of the age of that middleware
(DIR) Post #AceGPfFP6fq8eTtJdg by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:34:58.045577Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @Moon @rw @sim huh? Wtf is the difference between gnu social and the default Pleroma ui? Looks fine to me. And I would be horrified if my Mom was on the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #AceGRp0plto1W66ZX6 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:35:21.167797Z
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@djsumdog @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @coldacid @coolboymew gnu social only added AP support relatively recently.
(DIR) Post #AceGTpIrf3uIzvUiqu by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:35:40.583694Z
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@arcanicanis @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew Also; waiting for it to recompile when you edit a config file (looking at you Pleroma)
(DIR) Post #AceGV2BhF7jlFPiYam by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-09T23:35:54.400168Z
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@olmitch @PurpCat @Moon @rw @sim gnu social on the backend was apparently very buggy and had like 7 million different issues with just a couple thousand users
(DIR) Post #AceGWx2bLiAZrfNTRA by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:36:18.169233Z
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@djsumdog @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew yeah but I wouldn't put that on Gargron's attitude (much). Out of the two protocols, OStatus and ActivityPub, the latter does seem to be easier to work with
(DIR) Post #AceGXZmJKDJO0R3VxY by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:36:19.985129Z
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@olmitch @kirby @Moon @rw @sim It has to load a whole different webpage for everything you do due to how it works, and there's a lot of mouse clicks to get to anything.
(DIR) Post #AceGYUolFm8kuXdmC0 by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:36:34.903133Z
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@Moon @djsumdog @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby hopefully this means groups soon
(DIR) Post #AceGbpvfDbepFtSiBs by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-09T23:37:06.977075Z
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@olmitch @Moon @PurpCat @rw @sim also are you thinking of qvitter when you're talking about default pleroma ui and gnu social ui? they looked very similar when pleroma fe came out
(DIR) Post #AceGj89RrnFpnXO6Qi by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:38:24.385032Z
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@kirby @Moon @olmitch @rw @sim Qvitter is what literally every GS instance that had users ran because it was like Soapbox: a completely different frontend that was designed for usability. I'm referring to the stock GS frontend that still comes with it if you download it from wherever it's hosted and get it running.
(DIR) Post #AceGmI0LgmR3E4dbSS by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:38:59.885530Z
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@coldacid @djsumdog @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby if you want to talk about that my opinion is that ostatus is far more weird and complicated and attempted to do a lot more than activitypub (directly interact with the world wide web via RSS/websub/webmention) BUT, the complaints that ostatus was problem-prone because it was the conglomeration of a half dozen web technologies that weren't ever meant to work together seamlessly still manifests in activitypub to a lesser degree.
(DIR) Post #AceGqiCYER0BdGSDWC by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-09T23:39:47.297721Z
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@PurpCat @Moon @olmitch @rw @sim oh snap i just saw the post olmitch replied to my bad
(DIR) Post #AceGs6KfzybKlMuv7g by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:40:07.161787Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coolboymew @djsumdog @jeff @kirby yeah I'm not saying that one is shit and the other is great. I know it's rather a matter of degrees instead.
(DIR) Post #AceGti49BynW53x8F6 by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:40:20.873617Z
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@kirby @PurpCat @olmitch @rw @sim qvitter was almost a direct copy of an old revision of the Twitter UI by an automated space luxury communist named Hannes. Pleroma was very similar to Qvitter and also started its life as a GNU Social frontend exclusively.
(DIR) Post #AceGxIbTnpMwGjFt1E by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:40:54.675920Z
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@coldacid @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew I'll give Eugen credit, given the audience he has curated for his project it could be vastly worse IMO; and if you have to deal with people like he does asking for privacy features that don't work you too would also end up not listening to anyone.As an example Bluesky just now has had to delay a plan to make the website public for people without logging in because a lot of people there were assuming it would be loginwalled forever and posting a lot of TMI posts from nudes to hornyposting without asking themselves what would happen a year from now.https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/06/bluesky-says-it-will-allow-users-to-opt-out-of-the-public-web-interface-after-backlash/
(DIR) Post #AceGy7u14fV3MzJuUa by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:41:11.934045Z
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@djsumdog @PurpCat @kirby @Moon @coolboymew @olmitch It's nice to see other people that miss SLC. I feel like a lot of people ended up leaving it as it was very slow and then we got scattered when it went down for good.
(DIR) Post #AceH2qqxtG9dwN96um by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-09T23:41:59.736597Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @olmitch @rw @sim yes i realized old pleroma fe was awfully similar to qvitter which is why i got confused and thought olmitch was talking about qvitter when he compared that and pl fe
(DIR) Post #AceH3jD9mxzYWpwb0C by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:42:13.580677Z
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@PurpCat @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew those cowards. I hornypost all the time out in the open and never afraid of anything
(DIR) Post #AceH7FD1HJPidXYZ3Q by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:42:49.963641Z
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@PurpCat @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @coldacid @coolboymew One of my last interactions with him before we were silenced on mastodon.social was him getting assreamed by unreasonable idiots asking for impossible things, and me trying to encourage him to not think too much about the pretty visious attacks against him by people that absolutely cannot be pleased.
(DIR) Post #AceHCXiZtDY7UOqOmW by Moon@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:43:47.247790Z
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@PurpCat @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @coldacid @coolboymew he _started_ never listening to anyone and has never changed, I have direct experience with this from trying to help him a few times very early on
(DIR) Post #AceHDKmVTOo5em3jCy by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:43:54.385358Z
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@Moon @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @coldacid @coolboymew Oh, that crowd ended up writing a hit piece on him (it wasn't very effective). I like to cite this because it's a window into the mind of a Mastodon user and a good chunk of the people on Bluesky and similar. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/mastodon-fediverse-eugen-rochko/https://archive.fo/k26Ij
(DIR) Post #AceHGgjsIAI8cqQYz2 by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:44:34.112205Z
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@PurpCat @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew yeah I remember this
(DIR) Post #AceHO6lttxEhOKug0O by PurpCat@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-09T23:45:47.791127Z
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@coldacid @djsumdog @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew So do you know about the whole fallacy with AWD cars and how it lulls people into car crashes because they think "oh it's AWD I can drive through anything" and end up driving risky and crashing?It's the same mindset with people on Bluesky right now, and just a few weeks ago I saw some SUV with "4x4" written on some decal on it crashed in a rain storm (I think it was one of the Chevy Blazer/TrailBlazer reskins, or similar truck platform SUVs so it was RWD at that moment).
(DIR) Post #AceHnH6kbmq4gkfM5Q by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:50:27.134073Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coldacid @kirby @rw I'm glad that you didn't want us to go offline so that we had a bit more time. Fortunately, you were able to leave us to do our thing when it comes to moderation. That is something that I appreciated. It could have been a lot worse. I don't think I knew much about what was happening while it was acquired.
(DIR) Post #AceHuL1aRcxarZcPqa by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:51:43.867518Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby @rw It looked shit to me which is why I don't use it. But I guess a lot of people preferred that style.
(DIR) Post #AceI5RdIDRv2XkYF8a by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-09T23:53:44.298880Z
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@coldacid @Moon @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby I second this. We remember you.
(DIR) Post #AceIfavB9umzmB9fe4 by djsumdog@djsumdog.com
2023-12-10T00:00:11.402986Z
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AWD cars can drive through anything! I can't tell you how many times I was glad to have my WRX in snow and ice storms as people all around me were stuck spinning in snow. (and 4x4 vs AWD are different .. I do own one of each 😅) ... but I get what you're saying.I think a better analogy are all the modern safety features: blind spot alerts, lane departure beeps, emergency auto-breaks, adaptive cruise control ... too many people browse their phones while driving and depend on all that crap .. which makes me think we'll see way more wrecks in 10 years when all the sensors start failing.People should just assume everything the post is public .. but I also don't think a lot of people are ready for distributed social networks. Most people have no fucking clue how e-mail or websites work.
(DIR) Post #AceIm8wdZbC52GxZHk by olmitch@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:01:27.433094Z
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(DIR) Post #AceJ3fLgLiVeSR1u64 by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:04:37.249363Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coldacid @coolboymew @djsumdog @jeff @kirby Yeah, he didn't seem to appreciate me responding to a post of his where I think he wanted feedback from people that used mastodon but I wasn't aware of it. He later didn't respond well when I pointed out that mastodon users were being hostile to me and basically wanted me gone or dead without saying that. Other people had to fix his mistakes when it broke GS instances.
(DIR) Post #AceJjM8y8xIn3ZxkfY by coldacid@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:12:09.551265Z
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@djsumdog @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon @coolboymew forget "distributed", most people still aren't mentally or emotionally ready for social networks in general
(DIR) Post #AceK4ZiuqiPFFrtWlc by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:15:57.548995Z
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@djsumdog @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon @coldacid >Most people have no fucking clue how e-mail or websites work.It's a bit of an issue. Back then people actually used to have to configure their email app correctly one way or another, now they just use the provider's appBack then, shitload of personal websites, and even with a simplified panel, it still taught you how shit works, at least, on a basic level. Now nobody does that
(DIR) Post #AceKeBIh89O1vwblRY by coolboymew@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:22:22.919651Z
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@djsumdog @Moon @PurpCat @coldacid @jeff @kirby As a kid, I was like 10-12 years old, there was this old ecard website called Dromadaire.com (it still exists. It means Camel), and they offered free hosting with a free 10mb or somethingTheir panel was so ungodly simply that I basically learned on the fly, I'm sure I didn't even read help pages. That I had to have a basic editor (they were dime a dozen back then), call my main page index.html and etc
(DIR) Post #AceL10Phm2lKpRlqK0 by zaitcev@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:26:33.312863Z
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@Moon @coldacid @PurpCat @coolboymew @jeff @kirby It reminds me how I visited Linus in Helsinki in 1995, and he told me in confidence that he's been looking at emigrating to U.S. We also chatted with DaveM in NJ over talk(1). It was a fun visit, but it also cemented my resolve to look for an H-1B job. But in 1999 I was visiting Transmeta on invitation by HPA, and bumped into Linus. He didn't remember who I was. Such is the nature of these things.
(DIR) Post #AceNAKk3lMYaOGroem by zaitcev@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T00:50:39.148864Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @coldacid @coolboymew @jeff @kirby Apropos Gargon, I missed my chance with mastodon.social, but I made an account at mastodon.online. Gargon at the time apparently kept tabs on new accounts and he messaged me, asking if I ran an anime blog. I replied that I did. He replied that now he knew why I seemed familiar. So, of all things I did in my life, Eugen knew that I ran an anime blog.
(DIR) Post #AceNHxdhXdWF3WWuum by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-10T00:51:58.293095Z
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@zaitcev @PurpCat @jeff @Moon @coldacid @coolboymew why the hell is everything coming together like this i just looked at an archive of his old twitter page
(DIR) Post #AceTdnYKK7y5rtoPbc by fantasia@clubcyberia.co
2023-12-10T01:58:24.017144Z
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@kirby If the write up is going to be public, please do post the link
(DIR) Post #AceTezKk0Z4QhC1bhg by kirby@lab.nyanide.com
2023-12-10T02:03:10.284741Z
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@fantasia i cc'd u
(DIR) Post #AceZTRpGqcHXJUBXyC by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2023-12-10T03:08:33.456761Z
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@why @PurpCat @Moon @kirby well when the algorithmic timeline pushed me to start shopping for instances freezepeach was already up so
(DIR) Post #AceZtGEQZr64sqGEJk by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2023-12-10T03:13:10.233854Z
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@zaitcev @Moon @PurpCat @coldacid @coolboymew @jeff @kirby dunbar's number is consistent across everyone so unless they're an atypical savant most high profile people will be meeting so many people they'll forget those that they met once or twice
(DIR) Post #AcefNXFcMeW87s4Zfc by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T04:14:42.919583Z
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@Moon @PurpCat @kirby seallion was a gamer gate instance but I can't remember start date but you can gonto archive org probably
(DIR) Post #AcefTQnxFBrNs3weMi by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T04:15:47.259597Z
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@PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon I'm the one with a meme vault so that's history but I don't have all of it
(DIR) Post #AceflpYpwKjHraeBiC by 1iceloops123@shitposter.club
2023-12-10T04:19:05.239739Z
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@ElDeadKennedy @coolboymew @Moon @PurpCat @kirby spc is my second I was slc but spc is consider my home. But I been here since spc was made
(DIR) Post #AcitbNhWqKUAYJSphw by rw@shitposter.club
2023-12-12T05:12:56.414712Z
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@Moon @sim @PurpCat @kirby I interviewed everyone involved with GS and if I can find them I may do something with them. But a lot of the people I interviewed got weird later on about it.I still have my original articles. That was also through research.
(DIR) Post #AcjPFKnQ9z9VhmkdOa by sim@shitposter.club
2023-12-12T11:07:30.167023Z
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@hakui @PurpCat @kirby @jeff @Moon @coldacid @coolboymew @zaitcev I'm not a high profile person and I still forget people that I have met once or twice. Sometimes it is an effort to remember people that I'm no longer interacting with. There are too many people in this world to remember and too many things for my brain to remember to do. High profile people must be even busier.